Rosebowl got cornered on Facebook

[Coach007]

it's hard to listen to Rosie these days. too much party line and not enough of the truth.

You mean like It's Moorhead's fault that the WR situation was shit when he got here? Is that party line or Truth?

[TrapGame]

And most of that promoted here. Some wrong. Like Mullen to FL is NOT true.

promoted? I think you meant exposed.

[Dawg2003]

it's hard to listen to Rosie these days. too much party line and not enough of the truth.

The Boneyard has become really bad. I tried to listen to him yesterday, but it was just him ranting about the SEC officials Twitter account for half the show.

[Coach007]

promoted? I think you meant exposed.

No. I don't. I mean promoted. If you say it long enough, in coaching, eventually it will be true. Like I said. "Mullen is not going to UF...fact"...oops

[trojandawg]

You mean like It's Moorhead's fault that the WR situation was shit when he got here? Is that party line or Truth?

or like he said in camp this offensive line was one the best we would have and tommy would turn this offense around. Now, it's Moorhead is fine and isn't interested in Rutgers. Moorhead's offense is improving. The QB situtation was one the best it's been, but that's about to go to shit. The defense was the best it's ever been last year which he wasted. the running back room was pretty full and very talented which has seemed to waste between last year and this year combined. but yeah let's continue to blame Mullen for what Mullen left.

[Coach007]

or like he said in camp this offensive line was one the best we would have and tommy would turn this offense around. Now, it's Moorhead is fine and isn't interested in Rutgers. Moorhead's offense is improving. The QB situtation was one the best it's been, but that's about to go to shit. The defense was the best it's ever been last year which he wasted. the running back room was pretty full and very talented which has seemed to waste between last year and this year combined. but yeah let's continue to blame Mullen for what Mullen left.

It was a straight forward question. I will ask again.

Is it Moorhead's fault that the WR situation was shit when he got here? Is that party line or Truth?

[trojandawg]

that is relative and really up to each person's own opinion. it really depends on how the receivers are used. It's not straight forward like you think. Used in a Dan Mullen style of offense they were perfect for that. Used in a Moorhead i want to chunk it for 50/50 balls they aren't the best in down field catches. When used in the run game and in the short to intermediate passing game they can be pretty effective.

Rosebowl you were the one saying we were going to see a major jump in the receivers this year with the addition of Zuber and Payton and Stevens throwing the ball. The Moorhead faithful blamed Fitz for the passing game last year. now it's blame the receivers. you that still worship Moorhead always find something to blame rather than him.

[Really Clark?]

He isn't

?Scarlet Nation has learned that there is mutual interest between Rutgers and MSU Head Coach Joe Moorehead.? He went on to say that this is something that has been brewing for several weeks. Also said that his source told him that several current coaches on MSU?s staff are already looking for a landing spot for next season.

[BeardoMSU]

Did the Facebook bullies hold him down and cut those locks off his head, Samson style?***

[timotheus]

I think Joe believes that if he keeps telling himself that his O will work against an SEC defense that it'll eventually be true.

[Spiderman]

So I'm going through my feed last night before bed and a recommendation pops up for the page Maroon Madness (I think that's it.) And there is an article about coaches to possibly replace Moorhead at State. Rosebowl chimes in with the company line: Joe Moorhead will be our coach next season and this isn't helping the situation etc,. Well, in the ensuing follow up posts someone posts the obvious: Steve, are we seriously gonna keep a coach that finishes 4-8? Steve's reply was an adamant: We aren't finishing 4-8. This lead to several people expressing their belief that we would finish 4-8 based on what they have seen this year. Then golden post from Rosebowl comes: Look if we were to somehow finish 4-8 then yes all bets are off about Joe being here next season. But I don't think we'll finish 4-8.

So, Rosebowl will tweet out assurances that Joe will be the coach next year but when he is cornered about the actually win/lose scenario to trigger a change he's not so adamant.

Rosebowl has good info on certain recruits. Outside that he knows no more than the rest of us. When questioned on the suspensions back in July he claimed BS. A few of us said it was coming. He says BS. then a couple of days before he acts like he knew it all along.

And when it comes to recognizing what he sees on the field or court, he has the knowledge of the average fan.

I said K. state would be a tough game, that Auburn would blow us out, and Tennessee would beat us. He disagreed and was wrong each time.

[Homedawg]

Rosebowl has good info on certain recruits. Outside that he knows less than some of us. When questioned on the suspensions back in July he claimed BS. A few of us said it was coming. He says BS. then a couple of days before he acts like he knew it all along.

And when it comes to recognizing what he sees on the field or court, he has the knowledge of the average fan.

I said K. state would be a tough game, that Auburn would blow us out, and Tennessee would beat us. He disagreed and was wrong each time.

FIFY

[Coach34]

Is it Moorhead's fault that the WR situation was shit when he got here? Is that party line or Truth?

Whoaaaaaa- I thought Fitz couldnt pass? When are you guys going to get on the same page?

[trojandawg]

Whoaaaaaa- I thought Fitz couldnt pass? When are you guys going to get on the same page?

Bingo. They swap their excuses and keep changing their narrative rather than admit what the problem is. Jo. Mainly 007.

[Coach007]

that is relative and really up to each person's own opinion. it really depends on how the receivers are used. It's not straight forward like you think. Used in a Dan Mullen style of offense they were perfect for that.

Really?? Because I saw the constant bitching for 3 years that they could not get separation, run routes, nor catch. ALL under the Mullen years. Please don't Make me bump the threads. I will link this one. https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...=can%27t+catch As you can see. The same names doing the same thing.

- Homedawg. "Fitz can't throw"... Now Fitz was GOD LIKE
- MSStae7. "In his defense, Ross couldn't hold on to a td. "
- Bothrops.. "Our receivers wore piss yellow jerseys all night."

In that thread... These same people got a rumor started about Fitz and watch the comment:

- Can we please stop posting the rumor about Fitz. OM fans are repeating it now.

In 2015.... One Popular poster here posted "I'm Done with Dan Mullen" called his play calling crap...etc etc.

Rosebowl you were the one saying we were going to see a major jump in the receivers this year with the addition of Zuber and Payton and Stevens throwing the ball.

You can stop with the childish shit. You should know by now it doesn't work with me. We did see a major BUMP. We went froma QB who was 52%, 54%, 51% to a QB who was throwing for 72% before he got injured. Injuries happen and nobody can blame that on Moorhead. Only a person who is looking for issues can dishonestly find an issue with 72% and turn it around on a coach for an injury he nor the QB could control.

The Moorhead faithful blamed Fitz for the passing game last year.

And the ED FAITHFUL blamed him in the Mullen years. I just showed you that in one thread. Like I stated.. PLEASE DON'T make me bump all of the threads to prove it. Just be honest. We had a poor passing game with subpar WRS. It's WHY Mullen could not recruit them. Again.. More than willing to bump the threads.

you that still worship Moorhead always find something to blame rather than him.

No.. I blame him for what he is to be blamed for. Not everything because I am pitching a temper tantrum.

[Coach007]

?Scarlet Nation has learned that there is mutual interest between Rutgers and MSU Head Coach Joe Moorehead.? He went on to say that this is something that has been brewing for several weeks. Also said that his source told him that several current coaches on MSU?s staff are already looking for a landing spot for next season.

LOL... Per them 7 hours ago:

At this point, Moorhead is not on the hot seat

Literally 7 hours ago........

To add more: And this is golden because the writer is saying something Fleck NEVER stated:


The Schiano interest is there

While Schiano has not come out and publicly made any case for or against the Rutgers job, there was a compelling plea made by his former pupil P.J. Fleck this past weekend in Piscataway.

What was that plea that Fleck made towards Schiano???

“I will say is he's one of the best coaches I've ever seen,” Fleck said after beating up on Rutgers’ 42-7. “He's the greatest coaching influence of my life. I came to him a boy and left as a man. I learned more college football, I learned more business, I learned more how to treat people, I learned more X's and O's, I learned more discipline I learned more work ethic from that man than I ever had learned from anybody in my entire life. And I owe my entire coaching career to him.”

Fleck’s testimony is a strong indicator of Schiano’s intentions in regard to a possible return to Rutgers. It seemed as though Fleck made it a point to make his case for Schiano as that prior statement was just part of his praise for Schiano.

LMAO!!!!!!!!! You keep believing man. Fleck's testimony PRAISE JESUS is a strong INDICATOR of Schiano's intentions!

[Coach007]

Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
Whoaaaaaa- I thought Fitz couldnt pass? When are you guys going to get on the same page?
Bingo. They swap their excuses and keep changing their narrative rather than admit what the problem is. Jo. Mainly 007.

Link to His words:

First... on attendance in 2017:

1. Complain about the attendance all you want. Our school is located in a small populated corner of the state and people have to drive 2, 3, and 4 hours to get to games.

Second on our WRs from 2017:

[5. You absolutely see our lack of WR play without Mixon, Myles, and Gray on the field. A below average group becomes just bad. It's amazing to me that we can play a UMass and they have a WR better than anybody we got. Our WR recruiting is simply atrocious.

Now to Fitz:

Nick was Nick in the passing game as usual- 12/23- 150 yards.

Fitz is completing 53% of his passes and throwing for 156/game so far this season. 8 TD's and 5 picks. Some people suggested he could be a little better this year but his stats take a step back due to new guys on the OL and our decline at WR. This is certainly the case so far.


DO I need to continue?

SO nobody is swapping anything. What is happening is the same people do the same thing EACH and EVERY year no matter who is here coaching or playing. However, you can't have it both ways...

- Either Fitz could not throw it, or he could. His career under 2 coaches says no. He was not a good passer. But because the same circle needs to blame somebody for something... They change their narrative and ignore their own past to have a purpose.

- Either Mullen's recruiting of WRs sucked as C34 stated and many agreed, or it didn't. It can't be both.

- Either we got the results we needed from the WRS or we didn't. Which is? According to the same people, we did not.

- Either Moorhead is still using Mullen's WRs or he is NOT. It's still the rotation. However, we have seen improvement from them. Again.. Injuries happen and nobody.... ESPECIALLY this group of people have a leg to stand on with that nor the current Roster.

[Homedawg]

Look dude, stop changing th e narrative cause your guy sucks. 11-1. You said we had plenty of talent. Then it was we are stupid if we don't play the suspended against aub and LSU, they are winnable. Yeah so winnable we could have had the 85 bears defense and lost. (Oh we had that last year,forgot) Then we do the right thing and play them against UT, which we should and jomo shit the bed and we lost. Just give up. You more stupid w each post. And that's tough.

[timotheus]

Ok Steve.

[Coach007]

Look dude, stop changing th e narrative cause your guy sucks. 11-1. You said we had plenty of talent. Then it was we are stupid if we don't play the suspended against aub and LSU, they are winnable. Yeah so winnable we could have had the 85 bears defense and lost. (Oh we had that last year,forgot) Then we do the right thing and play them against UT, which we should and jomo shit the bed and we lost. Just give up. You more stupid w each post. And that's tough.

Like I said. You can continue to post me pulling for my team. I have always stated.. I will always pull for my team.

Now own your own words. You and the same people have stated the same things over and over and expect it to be fixed in 1 year. It's BS.

"Fitz can't throw" Your words.. then all of the sudden... It's Moorhead's fault he can't throw. And had he benched him, you would have thrown a fit about that too.

Moorhead isn't going anywhere. Deal with it