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[cheewgumm]

What is irrelevant to last year is Fitzs ability to throw.

This is such a made up and ridiculous narrative that 007 uses to excuse JoMo and blame our players. By the way, way to throw our players completely under the bus to cover for JoMos ineptness last year.

Regardless, we could have literally run every play and beat Florida and Kentucky easily. 10 wins was the minimum last year with all that talent.

Total failure.

[dantheman4248]

If you can’t throw and the WRs “suck” then why the hell would you run 3 WRs on the field all game?

It’s a pretty simple concept. Adapt to the personnel.

The OL sucks at the “are we pass blocking or run blocking” so instead why not call plays and not audible because of a look. As film has gotten out we can’t run at all because our line is not able to just go down hill on run plays.

Defenses come out in a look and then audible immediately when we audible because they know what we are changing to. Why not cut out the audibling?

These are the main issues with the team that even with all 5*s we would have struggles with. These are all coaching deficiencies.

Seriously ask. If the WRs suck and the QB can’t throw and the OL is not good at pass pro... why would you run 3 wide and attempt to pass most of the game? Why not go 2, 1, or 0 WR and run North-South?

[Coach007]

What is irrelevant to last year is Fitzs ability to throw.

This is such a made up and ridiculous narrative that 007 uses to excuse JoMo and blame our players. By the way, way to throw our players completely under the bus to cover for JoMos ineptness last year.

Regardless, we could have literally run every play and beat Florida and Kentucky easily. 10 wins was the minimum last year with all that talent.

Total failure.

Oh no.. I'm not throwing them under the bus. YOU did. I'm pointing out what you and the others stated. What's wrong? Not helping your cause?

Again.. the facts:

- Mullen left gaps. Period.
- Mullen did not develo nor recruit WRs well. As everyone agreed.
- As everyone stated, Fitz was not a passer. That's under both Mullen and Moorhead.

- Moorhead recruited to correct those issues. 2 Qbs in
- Moorhead can't help the injury to a QB completing 72% of his passes and throw a great deep ball. NFL scouts even talked about it.
- Moorhead is recruiting more WRs and higher rated than Mullen while coaching up the Wrs on the roster. Case in Point, Mitchell. Even Guidry's blocking and catching is better. But again, nobody could predict an injury.

Sorry you don't like it, but we are all going to go through it just like the roller coaster years of Mullen. Maybe Moorhead can get that stopped too. Wouldn't it be great to be a consistent 9-4ish team.

[dantheman4248]

Here’s a math lesson for you

85 scholarships. 1 Kicker. 1 Punter. 83.

QB- to have one at every class. 79
HB- need at least 5 here. 74
TE- 2 could see the field so probably need 6 here. 68
OL- just having 5 for each class. 48
WR- 3 starters so let’s go with 12. 36
DL- 4 spots so 16. 20
3 LB- 12 here. 8
2 CB- 8 more. 0
2 S- 8 more. -8
STAR- 4 more. -12

Waste a spot on an inelligible punter and a transfer tackle that won’t see the field. -14

You have 14 gaps by your measure (basically complaining there isn’t a junior backup but rather sophomore backup at certain positions.) How do you spread them out? Oh and we have 2 punters and 2 kickers btw. So make that -16.

[Coach007]

If you can’t throw and the WRs “suck” then why the hell would you run 3 WRs on the field all game?

It’s a pretty simple concept. Adapt to the personnel.

It is his job to do what he was hired to do. Period. His offense. And he went out and got a QB that could run it. And before injury, he ran it well.

The OL sucks at the “are we pass blocking or run blocking” so instead why not call plays and not audible because of a look. As film has gotten out we can’t run at all because our line is not able to just go down hill on run plays.

Do I now need to quote the same group that stated the OL sucked in 2017 and recruiting of it sucked? 2 things are for certain. Moorhead got Johnson and he got Cross. Cross would NOT be here if Mullen had stayed. That's a fact. A kid from WP isn't here because of the Mullen crew.

Interesting that every position you have complained about, Moorhead seems to be addressing.

Defenses come out in a look and then audible immediately when we audible because they know what we are changing to. Why not cut out the audibling?

Every friggin team adjusts to audibles sir. EVERYBODY including Ms St.

Seriously ask. If the WRs suck and the QB can’t throw and the OL is not good at pass pro... why would you run 3 wide and attempt to pass most of the game? Why not go 2, 1, or 0 WR and run North-South?

Serious Answer. We are not talking about the same years. You are talking about 2018. You put you offense in and recruit for it. Mullen did it. Moorhead is doing it. And because we put the system in, the WRs were able to produce before Stevens was injured. Now a true freshman is starting and he is not as experienced as Stevens. He's not seeing everything yet... but he will.

Had he not put in his offense, then the WRs would not have had the improvement that they have had. So if not then? WHEN. He was hired for his offense.

- Fitz had 1767 yards in 2018 through 13 games. He had almost the EXACT same in 2017 under Mullen 1782

VS


- Moorhead's QBs already have 1,343 yards and we have 6 games left.

So yes, the passing game is better and it will continue to come together.


In Mullen's last season.... we had not one single WR with 30 catches. With 6 games left, we have one that is 6 catches from that.


That's called improvement by a coaching staff.


Lastly, if we don't throw...... we are not running.

[Coach007]

Here’s a math lesson for you

85 scholarships. 1 Kicker. 1 Punter. 83.

QB- to have one at every class. 79
HB- need at least 5 here. 74
TE- 2 could see the field so probably need 6 here. 68
OL- just having 5 for each class. 48
WR- 3 starters so let’s go with 12. 36
DL- 4 spots so 16. 20
3 LB- 12 here. 8
2 CB- 8 more. 0
2 S- 8 more. -8
STAR- 4 more. -12

Waste a spot on an inelligible punter and a transfer tackle that won’t see the field. -14

You have 14 gaps by your measure (basically complaining there isn’t a junior backup but rather sophomore backup at certain positions.) How do you spread them out? Oh and we have 2 punters and 2 kickers btw. So make that -16.

LMAO!!!! Holy cow. Not even going there... sweet jesus

[Really Clark?]

LOL... Per them 7 hours ago:



Literally 7 hours ago........

To add more: And this is golden because the writer is saying something Fleck NEVER stated:


The Schiano interest is there




What was that plea that Fleck made towards Schiano???



LMAO!!!!!!!!! You keep believing man. Fleck's testimony PRAISE JESUS is a strong INDICATOR of Schiano's intentions!

Blah blah...you still haven?t posted where anyone but Rosie denied the Rutgers rumors

[timotheus]

I'm with you 007. Joe should have a winning record in 2026

[Bubb Rubb]

It was a straight forward question. I will ask again.

Is it Moorhead's fault that the WR situation was shit when he got here? Is that party line or Truth?

This is bullshit. Moorhead is an offensive guru (allegedly). He could have used his running game much more effectively than he did. He could have been much more creative. All he had to do was be mediocre on offense last year and we would?ve won 11 games, but the guru couldn?t even manage that.

They say the good coaches can take his guys and beat yours, and he take take your guys and beat his. That?s not Joe Moorhead. The more you defend him, the dumber you look.

[gravedigger]

If we go 6-6 it?s because Shrader got us there.

Thing is I think it?s moot because Joe probably doesn?t want to be here either. I think he leaves on his own honestly.

How did Shrader get here?

[Homedawg]

Like I said. You can continue to post me pulling for my team. I have always stated.. I will always pull for my team.

Now own your own words. You and the same people have stated the same things over and over and expect it to be fixed in 1 year. It's BS.

"Fitz can't throw" Your words.. then all of the sudden... It's Moorhead's fault he can't throw. And had he benched him, you would have thrown a fit about that too.

Moorhead isn't going anywhere. Deal with it

In other words, I have no rebuttal. And I never said moorhead would be gone before next year. What I did say, to say there is zero chance he gets fired this year is just dead wrong. 4-8 and he's gone.

[Duckdog]

007 you are so full of crap!!!!!!

[Coursesuper]

007 you are so full of crap!!!!!!

Double Naught is a troll.

[biggun]

If you can’t throw and the WRs “suck” then why the hell would you run 3 WRs on the field all game?

It’s a pretty simple concept. Adapt to the personnel.

The OL sucks at the “are we pass blocking or run blocking” so instead why not call plays and not audible because of a look. As film has gotten out we can’t run at all because our line is not able to just go down hill on run plays.

Defenses come out in a look and then audible immediately when we audible because they know what we are changing to. Why not cut out the audibling?

These are the main issues with the team that even with all 5*s we would have struggles with. These are all coaching deficiencies.

Seriously ask. If the WRs suck and the QB can’t throw and the OL is not good at pass pro... why would you run 3 wide and attempt to pass most of the game? Why not go 2, 1, or 0 WR and run North-South?

Excellent post, I must admit. Agree 100%

[TrapGame]

If you can’t throw and the WRs “suck” then why the hell would you run 3 WRs on the field all game?

It’s a pretty simple concept. Adapt to the personnel.

The OL sucks at the “are we pass blocking or run blocking” so instead why not call plays and not audible because of a look. As film has gotten out we can’t run at all because our line is not able to just go down hill on run plays.

Defenses come out in a look and then audible immediately when we audible because they know what we are changing to. Why not cut out the audibling?

These are the main issues with the team that even with all 5*s we would have struggles with. These are all coaching deficiencies.

Seriously ask. If the WRs suck and the QB can’t throw and the OL is not good at pass pro... why would you run 3 wide and attempt to pass most of the game? Why not go 2, 1, or 0 WR and run North-South?

Bo Bounds and Chuck Mullins were talking about this on OOB. The NFL teams down starting QBs ARE NOT trying to turn backup QBs into the starters they replaced. The head coach is looking for what the backup brings to the table, what are his strengths and gearing the offense around that. Sean Payton is not calling plays like Teddy is Drew. The Steelers have completely revamped their offense to fit the backup b/c he's not Big Ben, not close.

Yet Joe the Offensive Guru can't see what each player has on offense: what is their strength, what they do well, Am I asking them to do too much?. It's his overly complicated offense or nothing. Sometimes it's best to just line up and run the ball like a bunch of pissed off m'fers.

[msstate7]

How did Shrader get here?

If the choice is both of them or neither of them, sign me up for neither

[gtowndawg]

Double Naught is a troll.

Has to be, there's no other explanation. He's dragging the board down with him...not very fun to read anymore.

[TrapGame]

If the choice is both of them or neither of them, sign me up for neither

Yep. Shrader's a good dude, talented AF. But if it means we keep Joe to have him then I think Shrader would kill it at Rutgers. The next coach needs to play to the strengths of the QBs we have left. They're not shitty QBs. They're the victims of Moorhead's calculus equation he calls an offense.

[Todd4State]

If the choice is both of them or neither of them, sign me up for neither

This is correct. We can’t mortgage our football team for one player. That is incredibly short sighted to do so. The other thing is it’s probably moot because odds are high that he would stay with a new head coach anyway.

[Tbonewannabe]

This is correct. We can’t mortgage our football team for one player. That is incredibly short sighted to do so. The other thing is it’s probably moot because odds are high that he would stay with a new head coach anyway.

Shrader is also from North Carolina who likes to hunt and fish. You would have to wonder if he would follow Moorhead to New Jersey. It would depend on if a new coach could sell him on the offense. He would also have to sit for a year at Rutgers.