Fine, he's most likely suspended for the year and we gonna win like 10 games .Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
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Fine, he's most likely suspended for the year and we gonna win like 10 games .Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
We were due for a down year, it looks like we are about to have it. Just bc it?s year 4 doesn?t mean we are supposed to be better than year 3. The graph doesn?t always go up.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford
What concerns me is our portal evaluations. Jans made a concerted effort to sacrifice offense for defense. That is not the way.
Stop trying to find 10-11 good players and instead go get 6 really good to great players.
Investment is one criterion. Having a top coach is another. Jans is #8 in the SEC in terms of salary at $4.2 million and 18th in the country. That's a top 5 seed.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
What's the number we have? Florida, aTm, Texas, bama, auburn, Kentucky, ark are 8. You telling me we are top half? Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by msugolf
He was told whatever he needs he has it available if needed. His problem is getting guys interested in playing in his systemQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I find it hard to believe in this environment that he can't get good guys with unlimited funds.Quote:
Originally Posted by msugolf
Tonight was totally unacceptable though, and Jans needs to fix it before Kansas st
Jans should have to answer for Ballard getting less mins than macura, Davis-Fleming, and grace. Ballard only had 1 foul
Well maybe that?s youre problem then. You create your own truth even when someone else tells you otherwiseQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Murphy didnt want to play for him anymore despite how much we offered. He told Kugel to look elsewhere but he was tired of getting railed on as well. Players today want to play in offensive system and score. And they want a system that can develop and showcase their ability scoring. They dont want to spend 70 percent of their practices working on defense
Btw kugel has scored 25 and 19 his first 2 games
That alone doesn't change the outcome but certainly is hard to understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
You aren't saying anything though. I asked you a number, and you can't give it. You say we're top half, but you don't know our number, so how can you know that?Quote:
Originally Posted by msugolf
I dont have to tell you a number. I?m involved with the program. Don?t care about your affirmationQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
To be top half, we'd have to at least be at 8 million. Ark, Tenn, Texas, Florida, auburn, Kentucky, and bama are all reported at that number with ark and UK at 10.
We certainly have the money to put together a competitive roster.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Btw, state was 6th in the sec in scoring last season at 79.5 PPG.Quote:
Originally Posted by msugolf
I agree with that. I'm not saying we don't have enough to compete. I'm saying we aren't top half of the sec in spendingQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Hubbard, Murphy and Kugel would have been a fun team to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by msugolf
And Jans hated it. He lamented that style of play which was and is very disheartening.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Sucks bc it's more fun. I don't think guys are turning down more money here bc of it though. Tenn doesn't score at all and they load up every season.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I like Jan?s a lot but his way of thinking is off.
The strategy LAST year was the right strategy - get guys who can score
And make them play D.
At the end of the day you need to be able to score about 80 and we may not be capable.
I would play
Warren
Hubbard
McGhee
Walker
The bug guy
I didn't watch the game but if you look at the % stats you would've thought we won. Then when you see they shot 70 FG and we shot 58 and 25-14 FTs well that about explains it there as well as 26 TOs. Then Hub only shooting 5 FTs is a problem also. He needs to shoot at least 10 in a game.
Didn't watch much of the game after I saw that Epps didn't travel with the team, that's concerning moving forward to say the least. Early in the game I looked at the box score and we had, I think 10-11 TOs and it was still the 1st half. I knew then we probably weren't winning. From the play by play it looks like they hit us with multiple 7-0 runs in the last 6 minutes and we were never able to dig out of that hole. Just looking at the box score:
Hubbard was his usual self. I imagine the 7 TOs is partially due to no one else really stepping up and him having to do too much.
We need to get Ballard going. He wasn't good last night.
Delquan Warren probably needs to move down the depth chart. 4 TOs in 16 minutes while only taking 1 shot and having no assists is not what we need out of a backup PG.
SJJ needs to figure it out too. 5 TOs from your senior is not something that needs to be happening.
The problem is and will remain we need another good shooting guard and until that happens the results will be the same!
Where is Epps?
You're unfortunately correct. We need Epps to get healthy or get over whatever is going on with him. We also need McGhee to show up and really need another player to show up as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by 99jc
If SJJ is among the best we have to start, this team is in real trouble. He is an energy, glue type guy to come off the bench and give the starting five a shot in the arm.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
But who do you put in that spot?Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
It's obvious that Jans wants it to be macura. Maybe king grace can be a player this season; he's got some early mins.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Yeah, good point? We only had Hubbard, SJJ and Warren return. It's hoping the Portal evaluations were correct and Jans can indeed mold a team from this group that can win. I took this total rebuild for granted. It's early but, last night and little "D" with 26 TO's is very concerning. You got anything on Epps not making the trip? Perhaps he is still recovering from the concussion at Houston. I was at the UNA game and he didn't look right as he seemed to be getting his jump shot off slowly and got about four blocked. Hope we don't have Clary 2.0 already. 26 TO's is almost unbelievable. It's early of course, but in this portal world, Jans may have his biggest job in front of him with this roster. Hail State!Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
No disrespect to Shawn Jones because he really does play hard and also does alot of little things that dont show up on the stat sheet, but Ive been saying for years he's not a guy that needs to play a ton of minutes because he just isnt good enough on offense, I even said it this year and got push back.. if our 2nd best player is Shawn Jones its going to be a very long year... he is a good player but definitely not a 2nd option guy.
I also don't have a good feeling about Epps not being available that was very odd and Jans hadnt addressed it yet....Epps just didnt seem real comfortable out there... I hope Im wrong but when Jans was giving him an earful on t.v. the other night I had a bad feeling. I could be completely wrong and hope I am because we need another scoring gaurd. There is no way Hubbard can drag us through the season alone, as we all know you win with gaurd play and from what Ive seen early Hubbard is pretty much a one man show.
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It's way too early to put much stock in this, but McGhee has a very impressive +- so far. Jones is a positive also
I agree, its way too early to put stock into anything.. but we can only go off what we've seen, despite what analytics say... and right now from what Ive seen, Im concerned about some things.. but again its very early and we may gel as the season goes onQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Epps is most likely done. And it?s not a health issueQuote:
Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN
He and Jans got into it bad from what I was told.
We beat #21 U. of Memphis by 13 at Memphis last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Tell you didn't watch the game without telling me you didn't watch the game. We absolutely dominated that game... they finished on an 11-0 run in the last 2 mins to make it respectableQuote:
Originally Posted by SpaceBully
Yes- this isnt football. Our bball guys have us in the range of competing year after year. I hear Jan gets 10MM and from there we can add a little if it means getting the right pieceQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
The problem is Kentucky and some others start at 20MM
If true, I saw it coming... when Jans chewed him out on t.v. against North Alabama you could see him shut down... I had a feeling right then and there something was going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rawdawg
Jans is very intense and will get in your face...that can rub guys wrong... he's lost players early in the season every year he's been with us.. Even though Epps didnt have a great game he was supposed to be our #2 perimeter guy, just a couple years ago at Georgetown he averaged 18 ppg and 5 apg. That will be a big loss if true.
Jans definitely isn't for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN
But that again falls on Jans and Co. to recruit better out of the portal. We've now had, presumably if this is true, 4 straight years of finding a guy in the portal who's supposed to be a primary scoring option for us and doesn't even make it to conference play.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg