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08-16-2016, 10:11 AM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

You guys need to realize that we have 6 RB's on scholarship and none are the total package. None. The best looking RB in practice last year was Shumpert. I'm sorry, he just was.

Then there should be a coach on the hotseat. They should know how to recognize SEC talent and if Shumpert looked like our best option, we should have been hitting JUCO hard looking for an option at RB. If we, for the second year in a row, don't have a decent option for an everydown back, a head needs to roll or there needs to be a good explanation why we can't get a decent option at what traditionally has been by far the easiest position for us to recruit.
08-16-2016, 11:09 AM
blacklistedbully

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I am trying to work on my negativity.....

...But I'm not there yet.

I am so sick of seeing better RB's wasting away on our bench until their Junior year (or until they leave) while we keep playing the "veteran that knows how to pass block" card with Holloway & Shumpert. Shumpert & Holloway are 100% NOT the answer at RB...so why are we wasting needed reps for guys that CAN be the answer? Holloway will do his usual good performances against South Alabama & other schools that he should be playing for, and Shumpert will continue to play great on Special Teams but like he's blindfolded & in quick sand at RB. It's time to freaking cut bait and let Aeris, Lee, Gibson, and Murphy have a shot at being the guys we recruited them to be. These guys badly need to be each given a quarter in those first games so they will be ready for big games. Please let's quit banging our heads into the wall with Shumpert & Holloway.

Oh, & whoever compared Holloway to some of the recent upper echelon Oregon RB's should receive a 1 week ban for insulting those Oregon RB's.

Of course Mullen is going to be the one to make me have to refocus on my attempts to become more positive. He's the dumbest smart guy I've ever seen.

This is exactly the part of Mullen that is so frustrating...and leads some to want him gone at times.

He is fantastic in many areas which has brought our program to new highs, and a consistency we haven't seen since Allyn McKeen. But his stubborness in this area, along with questionable game management appears to be the thing that has prevented us from taking the next step.

I still get pissed when I recall TR with LaDarius Perkins, and Dan running LP up the gut for no gain play-after-play-after-play. I still get mad when I remember how he kept trotting Devon Bell out there for missed field goal-after-missed field goal, etc,....long after everybody knew Bell was a head-case and shell-shocked. Personnel decisions have often been brutal.

I keep hoping it's just part of the learning curve for a guy getting his first shot at HC, and that he will continue to improve. If he does...he could become an elite HC, IMO.
08-16-2016, 11:54 AM
tcdog70

2015 Team StatisticsTotal
Total Statistics
NAME TYDS YDS/G PASS PYDS/G RUSH YDS/G TP TP/G
1. Ole Miss 6731 517.77 4351 334.69 2380 183.08 531 40.85
2. Alabama 6406 427.07 3407 227.13 2999 199.93 526 35.07
3. Arkansas 6051 465.46 3486 268.15 2565 197.31 467 35.92
4. Miss St 5986 460.46 4113 316.38 1873 144.08 447 34.38
5. Texas A&M 5521 424.69 3323 255.62 2198 169.08 361 27.77
6. Tennessee 5490 422.31 2582 198.62 2908 223.69 457 35.15
7. LSU 5247 437.25 2165 180.42 3082 256.83 394 32.83
8. Georgia 4904 377.23 2406 185.08 2498 192.15 342 26.31
9. Auburn 4810 370.00 2257 173.62 2553 196.38 357 27.46
10. Florida 4676 334.00 2899 207.07 1777 126.93 325 23.21
11. Kentucky 4464 372.00 2512 209.33 1952 162.67 296 24.67
12. South Carolina 4346 362.17 2490 207.50 1856 154.67 263 21.92
13. Vanderbilt 3918 326.50 2062 171.83 1856 154.67 182 15.17
14. Missouri 3361 280.08

we were the 4th best offensive team in the SEC last year. We did this with an average at best OL. In 2014 were were the #1 best offense in the SEC with About 514 yards a game. So , I will sit back and watch Dan put an Offense on the field that will be good. I will trust Him to play the right QB and RB. Some just want to bash Mullen. Damn he has shown us He can Coach Offense. let's see what we look like the first 2 weeks and then Start all this bullshit mully grubbing.
08-16-2016, 12:36 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

You guys need to realize that we have 6 RB's on scholarship and none are the total package. None. The best looking RB in practice last year was Shumpert. I'm sorry, he just was.

Holloway made a lot of plays for us last year. He needs his 8 touches per game. The next most talented RB is either Aeris or Gibson. Those guys should be the 2 ball carriers.

The best all around QB is Tiano, but Mullen probably won't start the Freshman. Damien is the best passer. Nick is the best runner.

Which is why we should have a two back system with Aeris and Lee and use Holloway situationally. Which would work and be the most effective.
08-16-2016, 12:38 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

2015 Team StatisticsTotal
Total Statistics
NAME TYDS YDS/G PASS PYDS/G RUSH YDS/G TP TP/G
1. Ole Miss 6731 517.77 4351 334.69 2380 183.08 531 40.85
2. Alabama 6406 427.07 3407 227.13 2999 199.93 526 35.07
3. Arkansas 6051 465.46 3486 268.15 2565 197.31 467 35.92
4. Miss St 5986 460.46 4113 316.38 1873 144.08 447 34.38
5. Texas A&M 5521 424.69 3323 255.62 2198 169.08 361 27.77
6. Tennessee 5490 422.31 2582 198.62 2908 223.69 457 35.15
7. LSU 5247 437.25 2165 180.42 3082 256.83 394 32.83
8. Georgia 4904 377.23 2406 185.08 2498 192.15 342 26.31
9. Auburn 4810 370.00 2257 173.62 2553 196.38 357 27.46
10. Florida 4676 334.00 2899 207.07 1777 126.93 325 23.21
11. Kentucky 4464 372.00 2512 209.33 1952 162.67 296 24.67
12. South Carolina 4346 362.17 2490 207.50 1856 154.67 263 21.92
13. Vanderbilt 3918 326.50 2062 171.83 1856 154.67 182 15.17
14. Missouri 3361 280.08

we were the 4th best offensive team in the SEC last year. We did this with an average at best OL. In 2014 were were the #1 best offense in the SEC with About 514 yards a game. So , I will sit back and watch Dan put an Offense on the field that will be good. I will trust Him to play the right QB and RB. Some just want to bash Mullen. Damn he has shown us He can Coach Offense. let's see what we look like the first 2 weeks and then Start all this bullshit mully grubbing.

We also had Chris Brown of Smartfootball.com tweeting about how he thought MSU underutilized Dak.

Just because our stats were "good" doesn't mean that they're optomized.
08-16-2016, 12:49 PM
Joe Schmedlap

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Absolutely correct, never seen a back reach this level with so poor fundamentals running the football. Now I do give shump props for his effort and playing hard and the dude is a good blocker. He just ain't a feature back. And the tire drill stuff is hilarious!

He's an awful tailback and mediocre pass blocker.
08-16-2016, 12:53 PM
Joe Schmedlap

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Maybe so, but we were a bad 2-pt conversion pass to shump away from beating lsu last year. We had the right guy (shump) on the right play, but again, a bad pass...

It was a bad pass, yet I bet it would have been caught by a different back.
08-16-2016, 01:08 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Which is why we should have a two back system with Aeris and Lee and use Holloway situationally. Which would work and be the most effective.

Substitute Lee with Gibson and I agree with you.
08-16-2016, 01:21 PM
basedog

It's practice, not even a game and yet, why the moaning and bitching so early? Dang.

Players can improve from last year so let's wait and see, I bet we see some improvements from some of the players that are being criticized.
08-16-2016, 01:21 PM
YazooDawg23

Over/Under on how many back-breaking plays Shump has to demoralize our team this year? He just loses. Not his fault Mullen keeps trotting him out there.
08-16-2016, 01:26 PM
thf24

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Substitute Lee with Gibson and I agree with you.

That's what I'd like to see. Is Lee even still on the team? I don't recall hearing a thing about him all offseason, which, considering all the talk about off-the-field issues last year, suggests his ship may have sailed.
08-16-2016, 01:31 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

2015 Team StatisticsTotal
Total Statistics
NAME TYDS YDS/G PASS PYDS/G RUSH YDS/G TP TP/G
1. Ole Miss 6731 517.77 4351 334.69 2380 183.08 531 40.85
2. Alabama 6406 427.07 3407 227.13 2999 199.93 526 35.07
3. Arkansas 6051 465.46 3486 268.15 2565 197.31 467 35.92
4. Miss St 5986 460.46 4113 316.38 1873 144.08 447 34.38
5. Texas A&M 5521 424.69 3323 255.62 2198 169.08 361 27.77
6. Tennessee 5490 422.31 2582 198.62 2908 223.69 457 35.15
7. LSU 5247 437.25 2165 180.42 3082 256.83 394 32.83
8. Georgia 4904 377.23 2406 185.08 2498 192.15 342 26.31
9. Auburn 4810 370.00 2257 173.62 2553 196.38 357 27.46
10. Florida 4676 334.00 2899 207.07 1777 126.93 325 23.21
11. Kentucky 4464 372.00 2512 209.33 1952 162.67 296 24.67
12. South Carolina 4346 362.17 2490 207.50 1856 154.67 263 21.92
13. Vanderbilt 3918 326.50 2062 171.83 1856 154.67 182 15.17
14. Missouri 3361 280.08

we were the 4th best offensive team in the SEC last year. We did this with an average at best OL. In 2014 were were the #1 best offense in the SEC with About 514 yards a game. So , I will sit back and watch Dan put an Offense on the field that will be good. I will trust Him to play the right QB and RB. Some just want to bash Mullen. Damn he has shown us He can Coach Offense. let's see what we look like the first 2 weeks and then Start all this bullshit mully grubbing.

THIS! Don't try to confuse them with facts. The last two years our problem has been on the defensive side of the ball. Moves were made to try and fix that. One of the very few gripes I have ever had with Mullen was rehiring Diaz.
08-16-2016, 01:31 PM
Big4Dawg

For those of you expecting anyone other than Holloway to lead the team in carries, you are going to be disappointed. Remember Perkins?
08-16-2016, 01:46 PM
Pollodawg

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

If QB's were just average I don't think a 6'5" 240 pound QB who runs like a deer would leave. I think it's a sign that he was being left behind and Tiano is pushing everyone for the starting spot.

Actually the problem with Staley was that he doesn't run like a deer. He's way, way closer to Tyler Russell than he is Cam Newton. He's more athletic than TR, but not much. Staley is a drop back passer all day long.
08-16-2016, 02:07 PM
tcdog70

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

We also had Chris Brown of Smartfootball.com tweeting about how he thought MSU underutilized Dak.

Just because our stats were "good" doesn't mean that they're optomized.

so what you are saying that being #1 in the SEC is "GOOD"-no shit Sherlock. Any time MSU can be in the top five in the SEC is AWESOME. Optimized there is a word you looked up in your Funk and Wagnalls. Besides that Dak was second in total offense last year behind an OL that is much maligned by you mullygrubbers. Quit with the bitching until you have something to bitch about. Do you just lie around dreaming up shit? **** Chris Brown and the horse he rode in on.
08-16-2016, 02:09 PM
tcdog70

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Originally Posted by YazooDawg23

Over/Under on how many back-breaking plays Shump has to demoralize our team this year? He just loses. Not his fault Mullen keeps trotting him out there.

are you even a MSU fan? Shump just might fool you, the Coaching staff must see something he is doing right.
08-16-2016, 02:16 PM
starkvegasdawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Which is why we should have a two back system with Aeris and Lee and use Holloway situationally. Which would work and be the most effective.

Think about a diamond formation with those three in the backfield at the same time.
08-16-2016, 02:29 PM
PMDawg

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Originally Posted by blacklistedbully

This is exactly the part of Mullen that is so frustrating...and leads some to want him gone at times.

He is fantastic in many areas which has brought our program to new highs, and a consistency we haven't seen since Allyn McKeen. But his stubborness in this area, along with questionable game management appears to be the thing that has prevented us from taking the next step.

I still get pissed when I recall TR with LaDarius Perkins, and Dan running LP up the gut for no gain play-after-play-after-play. I still get mad when I remember how he kept trotting Devon Bell out there for missed field goal-after-missed field goal, etc,....long after everybody knew Bell was a head-case and shell-shocked. Personnel decisions have often been brutal.

I keep hoping it's just part of the learning curve for a guy getting his first shot at HC, and that he will continue to improve. If he does...he could become an elite HC, IMO.

8th year. EIGHTH. He is who he is at this point. I'm not really saying this to you, don't take it that way. Just kind of putting it out there, because I'm with you.
08-16-2016, 03:25 PM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by blacklistedbully

I still get pissed when I recall TR with LaDarius Perkins, and Dan running LP up the gut for no gain play-after-play-after-play.

This seems much more explicable after seeing Josh Robinson a little more.

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Originally Posted by blacklistedbully

I keep hoping it's just part of the learning curve for a guy getting his first shot at HC, and that he will continue to improve. If he does...he could become an elite HC, IMO.

He is still improving. The shake-up on the defensive staff shows that. For a lot of his "flaws", fixing them would require trade-offs that may or may not pay off. He could definitely make talent a bigger factor in PT decisions, but that would likely have a negative impact on discipline. The one criticism that I think is completely valid is that OL recruiting has put a low ceiling on many of his teams at MSU and he hasn't seemed to be willing to do anything about that.

Also, I guess it depends on your definition, but Mullen is pretty much an elite head coach. How many coaches would you trade him for and be confident we'd do better? Saban is one. After that...Jim harbough? Chip Kelly (although sanctions and did Oregon have that much more success?) Pete Carroll (although sanctions) Stoops? Maybe he's not elite depending on your definition, but certainly seems like he's at the tier immediately below elite.
08-16-2016, 03:27 PM
Reason2succeed

Hater gone hate! Man, I can't wait for football to start so that we will actually have something to talk about.

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