Random Poster's rumors from Fall camp

[Mjoelner34]

He missed the hole 80% of the time.

A lot of that was due to running with his head down. I swear he's looking at his feet before he reaches the line of scrimmage. I bet he's hell in the tire drills.

[Tripp McNeely]

If QB's were just average I don't think a 6'5" 240 pound QB who runs like a deer would leave. I think it's a sign that he was being left behind and Tiano is pushing everyone for the starting spot.

^^^this!! That's the only thing I disagree with in the original post. Mullen hasn't had QB "clay" like this since Alex Smith. He's going to mold Fitz AND Tiano into NFL QBs.

[Commercecomet24]

A lot of that was due to running with his head down. I swear he's looking at his feet before he reaches the line of scrimmage. I bet he's hell in the tire drills.

Absolutely correct, never seen a back reach this level with so poor fundamentals running the football. Now I do give shump props for his effort and playing hard and the dude is a good blocker. He just ain't a feature back. And the tire drill stuff is hilarious!

[preachermatt83]

One thing I will say about Shump.. In the bowl game He ran like we all thought he could coming in. Like a Mack truck.

[lamont]

If QB's were just average I don't think a 6'5" 240 pound QB who runs like a deer would leave.

I'm confused? Staley was not a good runner at all and has knee problems. He ran more like Tyler Russell than a deer.

I'm just relaying what someone said from practice

[Harrydawg]

Correct, Staley could not run.....he was the slowest runner of the group with a huge arm. And loooooooong wind up

[mic]

This team is and is going to be much more talented than most think...

[TaleofTwoDogs]

This team is and is going to be much more talented than most think...

Let's hope that the players have that same confidence

[CadaverDawg]

I am trying to work on my negativity.....


...But I'm not there yet.

I am so sick of seeing better RB's wasting away on our bench until their Junior year (or until they leave) while we keep playing the "veteran that knows how to pass block" card with Holloway & Shumpert. Shumpert & Holloway are 100% NOT the answer at RB...so why are we wasting needed reps for guys that CAN be the answer? Holloway will do his usual good performances against South Alabama & other schools that he should be playing for, and Shumpert will continue to play great on Special Teams but like he's blindfolded & in quick sand at RB. It's time to freaking cut bait and let Aeris, Lee, Gibson, and Murphy have a shot at being the guys we recruited them to be. These guys badly need to be each given a quarter in those first games so they will be ready for big games. Please let's quit banging our heads into the wall with Shumpert & Holloway.

Oh, & whoever compared Holloway to some of the recent upper echelon Oregon RB's should receive a 1 week ban for insulting those Oregon RB's.

Of course Mullen is going to be the one to make me have to refocus on my attempts to become more positive. He's the dumbest smart guy I've ever seen.

[Bothrops]

I am trying to work on my negativity.....


...But I'm not there yet.

I am so sick of seeing better RB's wasting away on our bench until their Junior year (or until they leave) while we keep playing the "veteran that knows how to pass block" card with Holloway & Shumpert. Shumpert & Holloway are 100% NOT the answer at RB...so why are we wasting needed reps for guys that CAN be the answer? Holloway will do his usual good performances against South Alabama & other schools that he should be playing for, and Shumpert will continue to play great on Special Teams but like he's blindfolded & in quick sand at RB. It's time to freaking cut bait and let Aeris, Lee, Gibson, and Murphy have a shot at being the guys we recruited them to be. These guys badly need to be each given a quarter in those first games so they will be ready for big games. Please let's quit banging our heads into the wall with Shumpert & Holloway.

Oh, & whoever compared Holloway to some of the recent upper echelon Oregon RB's should receive a 1 week ban for insulting those Oregon RB's.

Of course Mullen is going to be the one to make me have to refocus on my attempts to become more positive. He's the dumbest smart guy I've ever seen.

So are you saying we should have a running game?

[AROB44]

And the agenda begins again.......

[starkvegasdawg]

So are you saying we should have a running game?

I think he's saying we should see if we can have a running game by sorting out backs by talent and potential rather than by if they need a fake ID to buy a cold one.

[dawgday166]

I am trying to work on my negativity.....


...But I'm not there yet.

I am so sick of seeing better RB's wasting away on our bench until their Junior year (or until they leave) while we keep playing the "veteran that knows how to pass block" card with Holloway & Shumpert. Shumpert & Holloway are 100% NOT the answer at RB...so why are we wasting needed reps for guys that CAN be the answer? Holloway will do his usual good performances against South Alabama & other schools that he should be playing for, and Shumpert will continue to play great on Special Teams but like he's blindfolded & in quick sand at RB. It's time to freaking cut bait and let Aeris, Lee, Gibson, and Murphy have a shot at being the guys we recruited them to be. These guys badly need to be each given a quarter in those first games so they will be ready for big games. Please let's quit banging our heads into the wall with Shumpert & Holloway.

Oh, & whoever compared Holloway to some of the recent upper echelon Oregon RB's should receive a 1 week ban for insulting those Oregon RB's.

Of course Mullen is going to be the one to make me have to refocus on my attempts to become more positive. He's the dumbest smart guy I've ever seen.

Me too! Sick and tired of a continual repeat of this scenario that is.

[msstate7]

2015 Rb stats

Aeris...
40 rushes 206 yds
6 rec 18 yds
46 touches 224 yds 4.87 yds/touch

Holloway...
92 rushes 413 yds
33 rec 396 yds
125 touches 809 yds 6.47 yds/touch

Shump...
59 rushes 228 yds
13 rec 101 yds
72 touches 337 yds 4.68 yds/touch

Lee...
22 rushes 137 yds
2 rec 15 yds
24 touches 152 yds 6.33 yds/touch

I guess you could say Lee needed for touches to see if he could maintain that avg/touch. Overall though, I think the most productive player (Holloway) got the most touches and his production says he deserved them

[CadaverDawg]

2015 Rb stats

Aeris...
40 rushes 206 yds
6 rec 18 yds
46 touches 224 yds 4.87 yds/touch

Holloway...
92 rushes 413 yds
33 rec 396 yds
125 touches 809 yds 6.47 yds/touch

Shump...
59 rushes 228 yds
13 rec 101 yds
72 touches 337 yds 4.68 yds/touch

Lee...
22 rushes 137 yds
2 rec 15 yds
24 touches 152 yds 6.33 yds/touch

I guess you could say Lee needed for touches to see if he could maintain that avg/touch. Overall though, I think the most productive player (Holloway) got the most touches and his production says he deserved them

Stats are deceiving. We need a RB that can play RB. Holloway is a decent pass catcher out of the backfield, and can break a decent run here and there....but lining up against Bama, LSU, and even Ole Miss and teams like that in this league with Holloway & Shumpert, will Not get it done. Period.

Everybody knows it. They both work hard and I like them...they just aren't SEC running backs. There is really no debating it. Holloway can play 3rd down back, but it's still not ideal in SEC West games bc he is too small & is a liability with the ball in his hands for that reason alone....and Shumpert is a fullback.

[thf24]

Thing about Shump is he's not even that great of a blocker either. Yeah he's strong and aggressive, but he gets absolutely embarrassed at times despite that.

[starkvegasdawg]

2015 Rb stats

Aeris...
40 rushes 206 yds
6 rec 18 yds
46 touches 224 yds 4.87 yds/touch

Holloway...
92 rushes 413 yds
33 rec 396 yds
125 touches 809 yds 6.47 yds/touch

Shump...
59 rushes 228 yds
13 rec 101 yds
72 touches 337 yds 4.68 yds/touch

Lee...
22 rushes 137 yds
2 rec 15 yds
24 touches 152 yds 6.33 yds/touch

I guess you could say Lee needed for touches to see if he could maintain that avg/touch. Overall though, I think the most productive player (Holloway) got the most touches and his production says he deserved them

But when you look at their main job, running, Holloway is no longer on top.

Aeris - 5.15ypc
Holloway - 4.47ypc
Shump - 3.86ypc
Lee - 6.22ypc

I'm not saying there isn't a role for Holloway in the offense, but as your stats show, they are more as a receiver than a RB. He is not an SEC RB. With his size and speed he needs to be mainly running the jet sweeps and catching the ball on screens. Aeris and Lee are our RB's from last year. They are the ones you give it to on 4 and 2 with the game on the line because they can move the pile to get that crucial first down. I know Lee was rumored to be in Dan's dog house most of last year and that may have kept him off the field more than what was planned, but out of the guys on this list, he has shown the most potential. Games in the SEC are not routinely won with a RB that barely outweighs a cheerleader. They are won with a guy that can lower his shoulder and put a LB on his ass.

[msstate7]

Stats are deceiving. We need a RB that can play RB. Holloway is a decent pass catcher out of the backfield, and can break a decent run here and there....but lining up against Bama, LSU, and even Ole Miss and teams like that in this league with Holloway & Shumpert, will Not get it done. Period.

Everybody knows it. They both work hard and I like them...they just aren't SEC running backs. There is really no debating it. Holloway can play 3rd down back, but it's still not ideal in SEC West games bc he is too small & is a liability with the ball in his hands for that reason alone....and Shumpert is a fullback.

Maybe so, but we were a bad 2-pt conversion pass to shump away from beating lsu last year. We had the right guy (shump) on the right play, but again, a bad pass...

[msstate7]

But when you look at their main job, running, Holloway is no longer on top.

Aeris - 5.15ypc
Holloway - 4.47ypc
Shump - 3.86ypc
Lee - 6.22ypc

I'm not saying there isn't a role for Holloway in the offense, but as your stats show, they are more as a receiver than a RB. He is not an SEC RB. With his size and speed he needs to be mainly running the jet sweeps and catching the ball on screens. Aeris and Lee are our RB's from last year. They are the ones you give it to on 4 and 2 with the game on the line because they can move the pile to get that crucial first down. I know Lee was rumored to be in Dan's dog house most of last year and that may have kept him off the field more than what was planned, but out of the guys on this list, he has shown the most potential. Games in the SEC are not routinely won with a RB that barely outweighs a cheerleader. They are won with a guy that can lower his shoulder and put a LB on his ass.

We were a passing team though last year. If we were better at run blocking last year, I think aeris' rushing totals would've went up.

[Bama_Dawg]

But when you look at their main job, running, Holloway is no longer on top.

Aeris - 5.15ypc
Holloway - 4.47ypc
Shump - 3.86ypc
Lee - 6.22ypc

I'm not saying there isn't a role for Holloway in the offense, but as your stats show, they are more as a receiver than a RB. He is not an SEC RB. With his size and speed he needs to be mainly running the jet sweeps and catching the ball on screens. Aeris and Lee are our RB's from last year. They are the ones you give it to on 4 and 2 with the game on the line because they can move the pile to get that crucial first down. I know Lee was rumored to be in Dan's dog house most of last year and that may have kept him off the field more than what was planned, but out of the guys on this list, he has shown the most potential. Games in the SEC are not routinely won with a RB that barely outweighs a cheerleader. They are won with a guy that can lower his shoulder and put a LB on his ass.

This is nice, but also lets look at the fumbles per touch ratio as well. Its the whole risk/reward thing.

Love talking stats. As I've always been told there's liars, damn liars, and statistics.