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    Random Poster's rumors from Fall camp

    A) We are better coached on D than we have been in awhile. Sirmon impresses- as does the rest of the defensive staff. A couple people inside the building call this the best staff on D we have had under Mullen.

    B) T-Buck promises he will find some better OL talent to recruit

    C) Feeling is we will be improved on D

    D) Our QB's look average at best.

    E) The D is pounding the O's ass. The DL is wrecking shit

    F) Gray is stepping up and gives us another weapon

    G) Our OL should be at least slightly better

    H) Green is a monster

    I) Mullen wont risk an early season loss by starting Tiano to get his lumps. Feels Fitz and Williams can do enough to get by early on as they too get more experience. Got to go with experience- and they all need it.

    J) Expect Holloway and Shump until the younger guys learn how to pass block.

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    I have a feeling that our running backs will suddenly learn how to pass block better when Shumpert and Holloway graduate.

    And you think about it- both of our high school o-line commits are from Buckley's recruiting area. It's sad that he has to do Hevesey's job too.

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    How in the **** can Holloway pass block anybody but Aeris and D Lee cannot in Year 3?
    Anybody remember the picture of Holloway trying to block Myles Garrett?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas_Dawg View Post
    How in the **** can Holloway pass block anybody but Aeris and D Lee cannot in Year 3?
    Anybody remember the picture of Holloway trying to block Myles Garrett?
    pass blocking is our excuse every year for why the younger RB's dont get time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Poster View Post
    pass blocking is our excuse every year for why the younger RB's dont get time
    Yeah, it's getting old. Our coaches error on the side of playing not to lose, rather than playing to win. It's why we beat who we should & lose games where are an underdog.

    I just listened to Sallach's post-practice interview today & he went on & on about consistency, being reliable, & bring it every day. While in theory I agree with him, in practice it stops making sense when you don't have your most talented players on the field in favor of guys that just won't screw up.

    There has to be a balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Poster View Post
    A) We are better coached on D than we have been in awhile. Sirmon impresses- as does the rest of the defensive staff. A couple people inside the building call this the best staff on D we have had under Mullen.

    B) T-Buck promises he will find some better OL talent to recruit

    C) Feeling is we will be improved on D

    D) Our QB's look average at best.

    E) The D is pounding the O's ass. The DL is wrecking shit

    F) Gray is stepping up and gives us another weapon

    G) Our OL should be at least slightly better

    H) Green is a monster

    I) Mullen wont risk an early season loss by starting Tiano to get his lumps. Feels Fitz and Williams can do enough to get by early on as they too get more experience. Got to go with experience- and they all need it.

    J) Expect Holloway and Shump until the younger guys learn how to pass block.
    You forgot....


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    As for the QBs being average, my hope is that someone will win the team over once real games start

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    I heard AK Kelly should have been from California....California. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

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    zero reason for what you wrote in the post I edited.
    Last edited by I seen it dawg; 08-15-2016 at 08:45 PM.

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    You can't tell me a 150lb Holloway can pass block better the rest of them. Same bullshit excuse every year

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    I can understand shump being a good blocker. And this is no offense to Holloway. But Williams and Lee would at least alter the path of Gerri Green on a blitz. Holloway is nothing more then a speed bump back there.

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    I re watch all the games last season and Holloway got better each game. I expect big things out of him this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    I re watch all the games last season and Holloway got better each game. I expect big things out of him this season.

    Really. Gimme Holloway over Shump any day.

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    I think I tried to defend Shump at the beginning of last year. I won't do it again... Unless he's turned into Derrick Henry I really don't want to see him as an Rb.

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    As far as running back goes. I have no idea why Shump thinks he can cut and spin like that in the backfield. You can't, dude. We all love you, but please just suck it up and be the fullback you were always meant to be. His lateral movements are soooo slooooooowwwwww. He looks like he's running in concrete when he tries to juke and cut. And for some reason, he cannot find the open field. That was something JRob, pain the rear end he's been lately, could absolutely do. It was something Ballard could do and Myles and Holloway can do it some. Ballard and Robinson just had noses for running to space. Once they broke the line, they ran were the defense wasn't.

    Go back and watch Auburn, LSU, and ATM circa 2014. I have never seen a finer performance by a tailback in MSU history, and that included AD in his prime. JRob just knew instinctively where to go. We don't have that now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    I re watch all the games last season and Holloway got better each game. I expect big things out of him this season.
    Yeah, Holloway doesn't bother me. He's not terribly different than some of the Oregon running backs like D'Anthony Thomas or Kenjon Barner. I think Holloway is fine between the 20s, but we've got to add a truck horse that can convert 3rd & 3.

    Unless Shump has increased a grade in athleticism, speed, & lightness on his feet, I have no interest

    The problem with Shump is that this isn't a situation where he has to "learn", stop fumbling, etc.... these aren't correctable problems. He has physical limitations

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    Gee Random, you sure know a lot for a Taco Bell manager.

    But, I agree with Beaver, if Shump gets tackled by a hash mark every other down this season I'm gonna scream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Gee Random, you sure know a lot for a Taco Bell manager.

    But, I agree with Beaver, if Shump gets tackled by a hash mark every other down this season I'm gonna scream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Yeah, Holloway doesn't bother me. He's not terribly different than some of the Oregon running backs like D'Anthony Thomas or Kenjon Barner. I think Holloway is fine between the 20s, but we've got to add a truck horse that can convert 3rd & 3.

    Unless Shump has increased a grade in athleticism, speed, & lightness on his feet, I have no interest

    The problem with Shump is that this isn't a situation where he has to "learn", stop fumbling, etc.... these aren't correctable problems. He has physical limitations
    Shumpert has no vision at all. I re watched all of our games and time and time again shumpert missed the hole. One play against auburn really stands out. The right side of our ol collapsed the auburn DL, bear had the corner sealed and shump had 15 yards before he would've been touched. Instead he cuts back left runs into dak and gets tackled for an 8 yard loss. Our ol weren't world beaters but shump made them look much worse when he ran the ball. He missed the hole 80% of the time.

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    If QB's were just average I don't think a 6'5" 240 pound QB who runs like a deer would leave. I think it's a sign that he was being left behind and Tiano is pushing everyone for the starting spot.

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