2025 Transfer Portal Thread

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

How many would Shapen have won?

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Shapen didn?t have the run game going that was there with MVB. However I think Shapen hits some of the throws and we beat both Mizzou and OM. But again, you never know. You can?t sit there on the other side and say he could or couldn?t win whatever games. I just know Shapen didn?t have the run game going at the time of his injury that MVB did. Booth really turned it on late in the year.

Look- at end of day, MVB was only here because of Lebby. Lebby made an executive decision and whether or not you like it or not-he knows his room. It could cost him his job or he will look like a genius. But I know in business, you make an executive decision and you don?t look back. He made a decision not to cave to a $1.5MM asking price to a 20 year old freshman. There are several here who want to take ?moneyball? approach and giving that much money to MVB was not ?moneyball ?. He could turn out to be Sawyer or he could turn out to be like Locke. You never know. People didn?t think we could replace Zavion either.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I thought this weekend was supposed to mirror OM's crazy one back in 2014 (?)

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No one has said that.

I just hoped that holes would be filled and that we would get Arnold because that would have been a huge perception win for MSU.

We are at least filling holes it seems like but there is a ways to go as well.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

How many would Shapen have won?

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More than MVB. Shapen's issue isn't talent. It's durability.

I could easily see him beating Mizzou and Ole Miss last year.

Among players with at least 10 pass attempts of 20+ yards, Blake Shapen was 2nd in completion percentage on those throws at 58.8%. He had the 4th highest completion percentage on intermediate passes at 72.2%.

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Originally Posted by KB21

This is why Jeff Lebby set out to upgrade over him this offseason. Unlike some of the previous coaches at Mississippi State, Jeff Lebby knows the goal of offense is to score points. He knows that points come through the passing game. He knows that a lot of points were left on the field by MVB last year. Jeff Lebby isn't a coach who is just going to try and get by at the QB position.

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Why do you talk to the rest of the board like they have never seen a game of football

Shapen is a player. If he can get healthy and stay healthy that is a very good thing. If we have him at the same time that the run game finally got going there is a very good chance that we look at this season in a much brighter light. The guy can play

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

More than MVB. Shapen's issue isn't talent. It's durability.

I could easily see him beating Mizzou and Ole Miss last year.

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Based on what?

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Originally Posted by KB21

This is why Jeff Lebby set out to upgrade over him this offseason. Unlike some of the previous coaches at Mississippi State, Jeff Lebby knows the goal of offense is to score points. He knows that points come through the passing game. He knows that a lot of points were left on the field by MVB last year. Jeff Lebby isn't a coach who is just going to try and get by at the QB position.

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Yep. I know exactly who in here would be having a melt down next year when MVB dirt balls a slant on 4th and 3 to end a game lol

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Originally Posted by KB21

Among players with at least 10 pass attempts of 20+ yards, Blake Shapen was 2nd in completion percentage on those throws at 58.8%. He had the 4th highest completion percentage on intermediate passes at 72.2%.

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Against who

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

No one has said that.

I just hoped that holes would be filled and that we would get Arnold because that would have been a huge perception win for MSU.

We are at least filling holes it seems like but there is a ways to go as well.

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Actually SVS said that two days ago

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Originally Posted by KB21

Among players with at least 10 pass attempts of 20+ yards, Blake Shapen was 2nd in completion percentage on those throws at 58.8%. He had the 4th highest completion percentage on intermediate passes at 72.2%.

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Ugh and that is with Traore dropping that dime for a 60 yard walk in TD at ASU. Which we lost by one score

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

I saw him hop a 5 yard slant on 4 and 3 at the shoe laces of Jordan Mosley that cost us a game. I also saw him under throw a RB Wheel route in triple coverage against OM and a few drives later threw to sidelines instead of hashes leading Coleman that would?ve been a walk in TD.

If he was such a baller..don?t you think he wins more than one game as a starter? I?ll sit and wait.

Also-what if I told you the only reason they took MVB was to also try and get Craver? Kinda the reason JoeMo offered Will to get Mingo?

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Do you think LSU had to offer another player from us to convince craver to come there? A player worth more than craver? You can't be serious.

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Why do you talk to the rest of the board like they have never seen a game of football

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Because a few of you are about 25 years behind the rest of the world when it comes to football.

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Originally Posted by KB21

Because a few of you are about 25 years behind the rest of the world when it comes to football.

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If you only knew....lol

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

If you only knew....lol

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Let him know, ha

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Do you think LSU had to offer another player from us to convince craver to come there? A player worth more than craver? You can't be serious.

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No bud, I am. Those two want to play together. Reason Craver left was because we wanted also guarantee MVB was the starter. Ask your SEC family members how recruiting works. Since you?re mouthing off so much about how things work.

Guess none of those 2-3 other SEC school Creed would start at wanted him. Funny

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Maybe so, but that draft in April will let you know which one is better

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It will NOT let us know which was the better College QB. Dart was better as a College QB. He may not translate to the NFL. There is no doubt Dak was the best QB in our history, and he has done very well for a 5th round draft pick. Because Eli won a couple of bowl games called SUPER in the NFL, That doesn't mean he was more rounded QB in college.

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

It will NOT let us know which was the better College QB. Dart was better as a College QB. He may not translate to the NFL. There is no doubt Dak was the best QB in our history, and he has done very well for a 5th round draft pick. Because Eli won a couple of bowl games called SUPER in the NFL, That doesn't mean he was more rounded QB in college.

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Eli was 10 times the Qb Dart was at Ole Miss. Eli literally called plays, adjustments, pointed out the defense, went through progressions all on each play. Dart gets his plays and audibles from a microphone in his helmet. He's spoon fed every situation. He makes no adjustments and can't read a defense. We literally only took away his deep threat and he almost lost the game. Dart is a gimmick Qb

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

No bud, I am. Those two want to play together. Reason Craver left was because we wanted also guarantee MVB was the starter. Ask your SEC family members how recruiting works. Since you?re mouthing off so much about how things work.

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You realize that you are saying LSU is giving a "worthless" QB between 500-900k just to get Craver?

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

You realize that you are saying LSU is giving a "worthless" QB between 500-900k just to get Craver?

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Well now. You finally get it.😂😂😂

If they want craver, why not just give him the money they gave MVB?

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Originally Posted by KB21

This is why Jeff Lebby set out to upgrade over him this offseason. Unlike some of the previous coaches at Mississippi State, Jeff Lebby knows the goal of offense is to score points. He knows that points come through the passing game. He knows that a lot of points were left on the field by MVB last year. Jeff Lebby isn't a coach who is just going to try and get by at the QB position.

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But apparently is fine to try and get by with subpar defensive coaches.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If they want craver, why not just give him the money they gave MVB?

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Because Craver and Van Buren want to play together. And if you are LSU why not give Van Buren 350K-500K if you think it gives you Craver. I mean hell, OM gave little Nkemdiche 150K so they could get in the game with Robert all those years ago.

When are the commits gonna start rolling in SVS?

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I thought this weekend was supposed to mirror OM's crazy one back in 2014 (?)

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Nothing about our program mirrors OM rn.

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Originally Posted by Tough Dawg

When are the commits gonna start rolling in SVS?

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Should have started hearing about them by now. There is also a chance we told Sategna to hold off to see if someone better comes aboard. He is the one I know wanted to commit.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Should have started hearing about them by now. There is also a chance we told Sategna to hold off to see if someone better comes aboard. He is the one I know wanted to commit.

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Is Sheffield still in play?

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Should have started hearing about them by now. There is also a chance we told Sategna to hold off to see if someone better comes aboard. He is the one I know wanted to commit.

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Wow. So sounds like no way to spin it anymore this weekend was a dud?

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Based on what?

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Based on the broken collarbone against Florida.

Heck in four games he almost had as many TD passes as MVB did and his completion percentage was over 10 points higher alone.

Just watching the two in person it's obvious that Shapen is better right now. Shapen's passes look like a NFL QB's passes.

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

You realize that you are saying LSU is giving a "worthless" QB between 500-900k just to get Craver?

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It's LSU. Money is no object with them. And losing their QB recruit to Michigan really stung them hard.

So then going over the top isn't hard to believe because Craver will have multiple suitors.

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Originally Posted by BigDawg81

Is Sheffield still in play?

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He is behind a few guys at the moment, and may be behind Sategna. I would take him IMO, but I am not making the decisions

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Wow. So sounds like no way to spin it anymore this weekend was a dud?

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Would not go there yet. I think it may just take longer to see the results. Arnold being here would have given more juice to the weekend and people might have gotten caught up and committed.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Because Craver and Van Buren want to play together. And if you are LSU why not give Van Buren 350K-500K if you think it gives you Craver. I mean hell, OM gave little Nkemdiche 150K so they could get in the game with Robert all those years ago.

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I think you two have let your MVB hate twist your minds. LSU wanted MVB as a capable backup in case nuss gets hurt - that's it.... end of story

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

It's LSU. Money is no object with them. And losing their QB recruit to Michigan really stung them hard.

So then going over the top isn't hard to believe because Craver will have multiple suitors.

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Todd - no offense brother but you haven't been paying attention. Kelly has actually been slow to adapt to NIL and they don't actually have unlimited funds like you seem to believe. They don't need to take MVB to get craver if they really want him. They woulda just cut the much smaller check to craver and save money to use elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

Well now. You finally get it.😂😂😂

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I get it now. You guys are just pulling my leg and don't really believe this nonsense. Y'all are too funny man. The last few days have been some of the funniest takes I've ever heard. Well done!

Ty Cooper to Tulane

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Would not go there yet. I think it may just take longer to see the results. Arnold being here would have given more juice to the weekend and people might have gotten caught up and committed.

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Kromenhoek is also on a two day visit.

Is it our speculation that KT will be the starter for 2026 or is Lebby just as high on him?

Jalonnie Williams, Northern Illinois DL, visiting on Thursday.