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10-26-2025, 07:03 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

It?s really not. Like someone else said, you are being way too dramatic. The guy?s been here less than two years and if you can?t see massive improvement, you?re blind.

We are not "massively improved" from 2023, which is the measuring stick. Lebby will never get credit for improving on his own bad year.
10-26-2025, 07:42 PM
SPMT

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

It's bad to change coaches every 2 years, but even worse to not change coaches when we all kinda know that we need to. Why give Lebby another year to miss a bowl again when we have proven that we can put together NIL packages to have a team that can make one?

I wouldn?t worry about him getting canned after this year. If we, did in fact, allocate the resources, like we keep hearing then a coach will come here.

The optics are nonsense largely, considering three P5 coaches have been fired mid season, that?s actually ridiculous.
10-26-2025, 07:50 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by SPMT

I wouldn?t worry about him getting canned after this year. If we, did in fact, allocate the resources, like we keep hearing then a coach will come here.

The optics are nonsense largely, considering three P5 coaches have been fired mid season, that?s actually ridiculous.

Could not be a worse time to hire a coach. UF, LSU, Penn State and others along with all the dominos that will follow.
10-26-2025, 07:58 PM
Thick

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

I think some people, myself included, see such a huge improvement on the field that we're being reasonable about giving it more time to see if the improvement continues. I don't think he's capped what he can accomplish here. In fact, I'd say he's just getting started. This knee jerk "fire the coach" and "bench the QB" fanaticism is expected for sure, but our AD and President can't act like that or we'll never get anywhere.

A&M thumped us. Outside of that, we've matched up and challenged every team we've played. A massive improvement on any season since Leach passed awat.

Thanks Hack, finally someone that recognizes the improvement. Yes game management and situational play calling has hurt us, but that?s a quick fix.
10-26-2025, 07:59 PM
Thick

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Man, I wish you would stop posting. Or take a little break. You have dumbed down this board to unreadable proportions.

My man!
10-26-2025, 08:01 PM
Bdawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

The pro-Lebby crowd will tell you that we're just "poor ol' Mississippi State" and we are never going to be able to compete with the big boys. That we should be happy just to keep it close with Florida and Texas because we are capable or deserving of beating them.

In the real world, we had the roster and the talent to beat both of them, and it was Lebby who stopped it. A "replacement level" coach wins both of those games. I've already identified 16 successful head coaches who would probably take our job, so the "poor ol' Mississippi State can never expect to hire a better coach than Lebby" argument is out the window.

With a competent "replacement level" coach we are 6-2 and looking at a ranked finish. With a good coach (like one that we'll be able to hire in a few weeks) we could be 7-1, and we'd right there with our former peers Ole Miss and Vanderbilt and talking about the playoffs.

Don't let the #NoWeCan't Lebby fanboys gaslight you into thinking we can't do better than a coach who is 2 wins below the level of our talent.

You are also saying that said coach of your choosing would be playing with the team that Lebby put together and calling the same game that Lebby called except they would make a few decisions differently that would win us the game. I?m not giving Lebby a pass, but I?m also not saying any coach you have listed puts this same team together and puts us in position to win all these games. Too many variables going back to when this years team was put together to say said coach would have us 7-1 or 6-2 right now. No one knows how good any of those coaches would be until they get here and try it themselves with one the weakest NILs in the conference. What you are basically saying is let Lebby be the OC and recruiting coordinator and hire another head coach to be CEO.
10-26-2025, 08:02 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Could not be a worse time to hire a coach. UF, LSU, Penn State and others along with all the dominos that will follow.

I just don't think we're competing for the same coaches that those 3 are.
10-26-2025, 08:05 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I just don't think we're competing for the same coaches that those 3 are.

Yeah, talk about inflated ego lol
10-26-2025, 08:13 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Yeah, talk about inflated ego lol

Does everything have to be spelled out for you two lovers? When Lane takes the LSU job, Ole Miss will have to find a coach. Same for the programs that lose their coaches to UF and Penn State. Plus Arkansas, UCLA and probably Auburn will be looking for coaches.
10-26-2025, 08:18 PM
Bdawg

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Originally Posted by Charlie_Sheen420

It was one of 3 plays take your pick

Dumbass number 6 with his late hit on Arch and I truly believe this is the biggest and the reason for the loss.

Then the other two would be deciding to punt the ball to 21 rather than punt it out of bounds and then the dumbass penalty on the early field goal that led to a touchdown

But number 6 and his dumbass penalty is the biggest to me

One out of those three would be on Lebby. Lebby should have also punted up 10 and on our side of the field
10-26-2025, 08:19 PM
Percho

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

I think some people, myself included, see such a huge improvement on the field that we're being reasonable about giving it more time to see if the improvement continues. I don't think he's capped what he can accomplish here. In fact, I'd say he's just getting started. This knee jerk "fire the coach" and "bench the QB" fanaticism is expected for sure, but our AD and President can't act like that or we'll never get anywhere.

A&M thumped us. Outside of that, we've matched up and challenged every team we've played. A massive improvement on any season since Leach passed awat.

Amen!
10-26-2025, 08:19 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Does everything have to be spelled out for you two lovers? When Lane takes the LSU job, Ole Miss will have to find a coach. Same for the programs that lose their coaches to UF and Penn State. Plus Arkansas, UCLA and probably Auburn will be looking for coaches.

Yeah, we know the theory. It still doesn't mean that whoever we want will be unavailable. For example:

Florida hires Franklin.
Penn State hires Rhule. Nebraska hires Bengals HC Zac Taylor.
LSU hires Kiffin. Ole Miss hires Pete Golding.

The chains are closed, not a cascade that affects us. Obviously any or all of those may be wrong, but there's just no reason to think that we're screwed without Lebby, especially when we're probably screwed with him anyway.
10-26-2025, 08:20 PM
DEDawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I just don't think we're competing for the same coaches that those 3 are.

No but we would be competing with whoever they hire their coach from. Or even one more level down from that. That is the dominos the poster was referring to
10-26-2025, 08:21 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

No but we would be competing with whoever they hire their coach from. Or even one more level down from that. That is the dominos the poster was referring to

Already debunked that theory, 1 post up.
10-26-2025, 08:22 PM
DEDawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Already debunked that theory, 1 post up.

Your guesses at who each school hires? Yeah ok im sure that is how it will play out
10-26-2025, 08:25 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Your guesses at who each school hires? Yeah ok im sure that is how it will play out

Why is your guess better than my "lover's"?
10-26-2025, 08:30 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Your guesses at who each school hires? Yeah ok im sure that is how it will play out

Seems to be the front runners. Obviously any or all could be wrong, but not likely to see the huge cascade because some schools will hire someone who isn't a current college head coach.
10-26-2025, 08:36 PM
Bdawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Already debunked that theory, 1 post up.

You didn’t debunk it. It’s just your opinion. You also said “all those may be wrong.” Jeez you need to take a break for a minute. Once again, I’m sure all of us are pissed at Lebby some kind of way, along with some players. We just all don’t agree with firing him.
10-26-2025, 08:36 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Seems to be the front runners. Obviously any or all could be wrong, but not likely to see the huge cascade because some schools will hire someone who isn't a current college head coach.

There are 12 FBS job openings with many more on the way. And you want to fire a 2nd year coach who has vastly improved the program year over year. You fell on your head as a baby didn?t you.
10-26-2025, 08:43 PM
Cowbeller

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Seems to be the front runners. Obviously any or all could be wrong, but not likely to see the huge cascade because some schools will hire someone who isn't a current college head coach.

I dont think UF hires Franklin but again these are all guesses and you have proven that youre an idiot so ill take logic over emotion.

Lebby 2026
10-26-2025, 08:43 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by Bdawg

You didn’t debunk it. It’s just your opinion. You also said “all those may be wrong.” Jeez you need to take a break for a minute. Once again, I’m sure all of us are pissed at Lebby some kind of way, along with some players. We just all don’t agree with firing him.

His opinions debunk if he says so and he decides what years in which we can compare this year's team. You don't know that??
10-26-2025, 08:55 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Cowbeller

I dont think UF hires Franklin but again these are all guesses and you have proven that youre an idiot so ill take logic over emotion.

Lebby 2026

If you really think the pro-Lebby side is logical and the anti-Lebby side is emotional, you really are in a cult.
10-26-2025, 08:57 PM
SPMT

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I just don't think we're competing for the same coaches that those 3 are.

Me neither. Never have been and most likely never will be.
10-26-2025, 08:57 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

If you really think the pro-Lebby side is logical and the anti-Lebby side is emotional, you really are in a cult.

This guy literally just said he was wrong about Lebby last night
10-26-2025, 08:58 PM
Cowbeller

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

If you really think the pro-Lebby side is logical and the anti-Lebby side is emotional, you really are in a cult.

You are more on edge than a teenage girl with your emotions. Reality has probably always been hard for you to grasp.
10-26-2025, 09:00 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Cowbeller

You are more on edge than a teenage girl with your emotions. Reality has probably always been hard for you to grasp.

"I retract everything. I was wrong" - unknown philosopher last night
10-26-2025, 09:01 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Cowbeller

You are more on edge than a teenage girl with your emotions. Reality has probably always been hard for you to grasp.

In 20 years of being part of the MSU forum community, no one has ever said this about me, almost always the opposite (no fun, too robotic, etc.). You are truly in uncharted territory.
10-26-2025, 09:03 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

There are 12 FBS job openings with many more on the way. And you want to fire a 2nd year coach who has vastly improved the program year over year. You fell on your head as a baby didn?t you.

Remember what happened the last time we were hiring in a year with big name schools open???

Joe F***king Moorhead happened. And our program was in much better shape than it is right now.

And look at the results from all those big name programs - big big pile of turds

https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...to-dan-mullen/
10-26-2025, 09:03 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by SPMT

Me neither. Never have been and most likely never will be.

He's right. We are closer to competing w scooba for a coach than those 3. So credit to him. He's right.
10-26-2025, 09:05 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Remember what happened the last time we were hiring in a year with big name schools open???

Joe F***king Moorhead happened. And our program was in much better shape than it is right now.

And look at the results from all those big name programs - big big pile of turds

https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...to-dan-mullen/

When they do a 2023-24 retrospective. Lebby will be a Grade: F | Original grade: D, just like Arnett.
10-26-2025, 09:10 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Remember what happened the last time we were hiring in a year with big name schools open???

Joe F***king Moorhead happened. And our program was in much better shape than it is right now.

And look at the results from all those big name programs - big big pile of turds

https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...to-dan-mullen/

Remember when we hired Lebby?? We didn't have one single guy who was a sitting head coach that was a wow hire and wanted our job. Not one. It is what it is. We will hire an assistant or some I hope so guy. And then do this again in two years. Bc clearly that's what our fans expect from the second hardest job in the sec. I want to win. But damn. And to add the one guy that was a head coach that wanted our job is at an equivalent job. Purdue. And boy he's tearing it up ******
10-26-2025, 09:12 PM
Quaoarsking

Just in the 2020s alone, we have made "wow hires" of sitting head coaches in football, basketball, and baseball, and I'm not even saying I need a "wow hire" in football right now, just someone who has been successful as a G5/FCS head coach.
10-26-2025, 09:16 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

When they do a 2023-24 retrospective. Lebby will be a Grade: F | Original grade: D, just like Arnett.

So who did you want then?? And who would you hire now?? Huff?? Cause that's about the best you gonna get.
10-26-2025, 09:17 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Just in the 2020s alone, we have made "wow hires" of sitting head coaches in football, basketball, and baseball, and I'm not even saying I need a "wow hire" in football right now, just someone who has been successful as a G5/FCS head coach.

And read what I said above. The one realistic candidate that wanted our job that was a sitting head coach was Barry freaking Odom.
10-26-2025, 09:17 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

So who did you want then?? And who would you hire now?? Huff?? Cause that's about the best you gonna get.

I made a list of 16 names I think we can get, all of whom are successful head coaches, and yes, Huff was on the list. I'd be totally fine with him.
10-26-2025, 09:19 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Just in the 2020s alone, we have made "wow hires" of sitting head coaches in football, basketball, and baseball, and I'm not even saying I need a "wow hire" in football right now, just someone who has been successful as a G5/FCS head coach.

Just damn, you really just have no clue how things are financially done with the athletic department do you?
10-26-2025, 09:20 PM
Cowbeller

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Originally Posted by msstate7

"I retract everything. I was wrong" - unknown philosopher last night

Making a joke pissed off 10 min after the game vs b*tching on 15 separate threads. We are not the same
10-26-2025, 09:21 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Just in the 2020s alone, we have made "wow hires" of sitting head coaches in football, basketball, and baseball, and I'm not even saying I need a "wow hire" in football right now, just someone who has been successful as a G5/FCS head coach.

And our best coach ever was an assistant. If you want to say it's Jackie that's fine too, he was a retread that no one else would touch w a ten foot pole, we took him and it clearly worked out.
10-26-2025, 09:23 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Cowbeller

Making a joke pissed off 10 min after the game vs b*tching on 15 separate threads. We are not the same

You're right - I have conviction. I don't give a shit what anyone thinks of me here, and I'll call it how I see it.
10-26-2025, 09:23 PM
Cowbeller

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Just damn, you really just have no clue how things are financially done with the athletic department do you?

This and acting like his magic list are all guaranteed winners at the highest level of the sport lol. If you fire Lebby you have to have a P4 coach lined up already which we obviously dont

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