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Originally Posted by
Turfdawg67
It?s really not. Like someone else said, you are being way too dramatic. The guy?s been here less than two years and if you can?t see massive improvement, you?re blind.
We are not "massively improved" from 2023, which is the measuring stick. Lebby will never get credit for improving on his own bad year.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
It's bad to change coaches every 2 years, but even worse to not change coaches when we all kinda know that we need to. Why give Lebby another year to miss a bowl again when we have proven that we can put together NIL packages to have a team that can make one?
I wouldn?t worry about him getting canned after this year. If we, did in fact, allocate the resources, like we keep hearing then a coach will come here.
The optics are nonsense largely, considering three P5 coaches have been fired mid season, that?s actually ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by
SPMT
I wouldn?t worry about him getting canned after this year. If we, did in fact, allocate the resources, like we keep hearing then a coach will come here.
The optics are nonsense largely, considering three P5 coaches have been fired mid season, that?s actually ridiculous.
Could not be a worse time to hire a coach. UF, LSU, Penn State and others along with all the dominos that will follow.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
I think some people, myself included, see such a huge improvement on the field that we're being reasonable about giving it more time to see if the improvement continues. I don't think he's capped what he can accomplish here. In fact, I'd say he's just getting started. This knee jerk "fire the coach" and "bench the QB" fanaticism is expected for sure, but our AD and President can't act like that or we'll never get anywhere.
A&M thumped us. Outside of that, we've matched up and challenged every team we've played. A massive improvement on any season since Leach passed awat.
Thanks Hack, finally someone that recognizes the improvement. Yes game management and situational play calling has hurt us, but that?s a quick fix.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Man, I wish you would stop posting. Or take a little break. You have dumbed down this board to unreadable proportions.
My man!
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
The pro-Lebby crowd will tell you that we're just "poor ol' Mississippi State" and we are never going to be able to compete with the big boys. That we should be happy just to keep it close with Florida and Texas because we are capable or deserving of beating them.
In the real world, we had the roster and the talent to beat both of them, and it was Lebby who stopped it. A "replacement level" coach wins both of those games. I've already identified 16 successful head coaches who would probably take our job, so the "poor ol' Mississippi State can never expect to hire a better coach than Lebby" argument is out the window.
With a competent "replacement level" coach we are 6-2 and looking at a ranked finish. With a good coach (like one that we'll be able to hire in a few weeks) we could be 7-1, and we'd right there with our former peers Ole Miss and Vanderbilt and talking about the playoffs.
Don't let the #NoWeCan't Lebby fanboys gaslight you into thinking we can't do better than a coach who is 2 wins below the level of our talent.
You are also saying that said coach of your choosing would be playing with the team that Lebby put together and calling the same game that Lebby called except they would make a few decisions differently that would win us the game. I?m not giving Lebby a pass, but I?m also not saying any coach you have listed puts this same team together and puts us in position to win all these games. Too many variables going back to when this years team was put together to say said coach would have us 7-1 or 6-2 right now. No one knows how good any of those coaches would be until they get here and try it themselves with one the weakest NILs in the conference. What you are basically saying is let Lebby be the OC and recruiting coordinator and hire another head coach to be CEO.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Could not be a worse time to hire a coach. UF, LSU, Penn State and others along with all the dominos that will follow.
I just don't think we're competing for the same coaches that those 3 are.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
I just don't think we're competing for the same coaches that those 3 are.
Yeah, talk about inflated ego lol
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Yeah, talk about inflated ego lol
Does everything have to be spelled out for you two lovers? When Lane takes the LSU job, Ole Miss will have to find a coach. Same for the programs that lose their coaches to UF and Penn State. Plus Arkansas, UCLA and probably Auburn will be looking for coaches.
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Originally Posted by
Charlie_Sheen420
It was one of 3 plays take your pick
Dumbass number 6 with his late hit on Arch and I truly believe this is the biggest and the reason for the loss.
Then the other two would be deciding to punt the ball to 21 rather than punt it out of bounds and then the dumbass penalty on the early field goal that led to a touchdown
But number 6 and his dumbass penalty is the biggest to me
One out of those three would be on Lebby. Lebby should have also punted up 10 and on our side of the field
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
I think some people, myself included, see such a huge improvement on the field that we're being reasonable about giving it more time to see if the improvement continues. I don't think he's capped what he can accomplish here. In fact, I'd say he's just getting started. This knee jerk "fire the coach" and "bench the QB" fanaticism is expected for sure, but our AD and President can't act like that or we'll never get anywhere.
A&M thumped us. Outside of that, we've matched up and challenged every team we've played. A massive improvement on any season since Leach passed awat.
Amen!
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Does everything have to be spelled out for you two lovers? When Lane takes the LSU job, Ole Miss will have to find a coach. Same for the programs that lose their coaches to UF and Penn State. Plus Arkansas, UCLA and probably Auburn will be looking for coaches.
Yeah, we know the theory. It still doesn't mean that whoever we want will be unavailable. For example:
Florida hires Franklin.
Penn State hires Rhule. Nebraska hires Bengals HC Zac Taylor.
LSU hires Kiffin. Ole Miss hires Pete Golding.
The chains are closed, not a cascade that affects us. Obviously any or all of those may be wrong, but there's just no reason to think that we're screwed without Lebby, especially when we're probably screwed with him anyway.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
I just don't think we're competing for the same coaches that those 3 are.
No but we would be competing with whoever they hire their coach from. Or even one more level down from that. That is the dominos the poster was referring to
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Originally Posted by
DEDawg
No but we would be competing with whoever they hire their coach from. Or even one more level down from that. That is the dominos the poster was referring to
Already debunked that theory, 1 post up.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Already debunked that theory, 1 post up.
Your guesses at who each school hires? Yeah ok im sure that is how it will play out
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Originally Posted by
DEDawg
Your guesses at who each school hires? Yeah ok im sure that is how it will play out
Why is your guess better than my "lover's"?
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Originally Posted by
DEDawg
Your guesses at who each school hires? Yeah ok im sure that is how it will play out
Seems to be the front runners. Obviously any or all could be wrong, but not likely to see the huge cascade because some schools will hire someone who isn't a current college head coach.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Already debunked that theory, 1 post up.
You didn’t debunk it. It’s just your opinion. You also said “all those may be wrong.” Jeez you need to take a break for a minute. Once again, I’m sure all of us are pissed at Lebby some kind of way, along with some players. We just all don’t agree with firing him.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Seems to be the front runners. Obviously any or all could be wrong, but not likely to see the huge cascade because some schools will hire someone who isn't a current college head coach.
There are 12 FBS job openings with many more on the way. And you want to fire a 2nd year coach who has vastly improved the program year over year. You fell on your head as a baby didn?t you.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Seems to be the front runners. Obviously any or all could be wrong, but not likely to see the huge cascade because some schools will hire someone who isn't a current college head coach.
I dont think UF hires Franklin but again these are all guesses and you have proven that youre an idiot so ill take logic over emotion.
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