Our NIL donors did their part. Lebby let them down.

[Quaoarsking]

The pro-Lebby crowd will tell you that we're just "poor ol' Mississippi State" and we are never going to be able to compete with the big boys. That we should be happy just to keep it close with Florida and Texas because we are capable or deserving of beating them.

In the real world, we had the roster and the talent to beat both of them, and it was Lebby who stopped it. A "replacement level" coach wins both of those games. I've already identified 16 successful head coaches who would probably take our job, so the "poor ol' Mississippi State can never expect to hire a better coach than Lebby" argument is out the window.

With a competent "replacement level" coach we are 6-2 and looking at a ranked finish. With a good coach (like one that we'll be able to hire in a few weeks) we could be 7-1, and we'd right there with our former peers Ole Miss and Vanderbilt and talking about the playoffs.

Don't let the #NoWeCan't Lebby fanboys gaslight you into thinking we can't do better than a coach who is 2 wins below the level of our talent.

[DEDawg]

Nobody is saying that you are being dramatic. We should have won the last 2 and both fall on Lebby. We also are not playing with the same resources the rest of the league is and that is a handicap. We cannot fire coaches every 2 years we don’t have the resources to reset whenever.

[Quaoarsking]

Nobody is saying that you are being dramatic. We should have won the last 2 and both fall on Lebby. We also are not playing with the same resources the rest of the league is and that is a handicap. We cannot fire coaches every 2 years we don’t have the resources to reset whenever.

It's bad to change coaches every 2 years, but even worse to not change coaches when we all kinda know that we need to. Why give Lebby another year to miss a bowl again when we have proven that we can put together NIL packages to have a team that can make one?

[BrunswickDawg]

You know so much, I bet your grandpa is one of the ones that insisted we fire Allyn McKeen.

[DownwardDawg]

They won't spend as much this offseason. No return on investment. We'll replace him after next year then the next coach gets a chance when we spend again.

[Coursesuper]

You know so much, I bet your grandpa is one of the ones that insisted we fire Allyn McKeen.

Well done sir, top shelf, have some rep.

[Quaoarsking]

You know so much, I bet your grandpa is one of the ones that insisted we fire Allyn McKeen.

TIL Jeff Lebby's 6-14 (0-12) resume is equivalent to Allyn McKeen's 65-19 (29-16) resume. Like Jesus Christ, this Lebby fandom is turning into a cult with some of you.

[Political Hack]

I think some people, myself included, see such a huge improvement on the field that we're being reasonable about giving it more time to see if the improvement continues. I don't think he's capped what he can accomplish here. In fact, I'd say he's just getting started. This knee jerk "fire the coach" and "bench the QB" fanaticism is expected for sure, but our AD and President can't act like that or we'll never get anywhere.

A&M thumped us. Outside of that, we've matched up and challenged every team we've played. A massive improvement on any season since Leach passed awat.

[Quaoarsking]

I think some people, myself included, see such a huge improvement on the field that we're being reasonable about giving it more time to see if the improvement continues. I don't think he's capped what he can accomplish here. In fact, I'd say he's just getting started. This knee jerk "fire the coach" and "bench the QB" fanaticism is expected for sure, but our AD and President can't act like that or we'll never get anywhere.

A&M thumped us. Outside of that, we've matched up and challenged every team we've played. A massive improvement on any season since Leach passed awat.

If we want to stop playing teams close and start winning these games, we need to replace the people who are causing us to lose. Lately, it's been Jeff Lebby.

[HoopsDawg]

If we want to stop playing teams close and start winning these games, we need to replace the people who are causing us to lose. Lately, it's been Jeff Lebby.

Man, I wish you would stop posting. Or take a little break. You have dumbed down this board to unreadable proportions.

[TrapGame]

I think some people, myself included, see such a huge improvement on the field that we're being reasonable about giving it more time to see if the improvement continues. I don't think he's capped what he can accomplish here. In fact, I'd say he's just getting started. This knee jerk "fire the coach" and "bench the QB" fanaticism is expected for sure, but our AD and President can't act like that or we'll never get anywhere.

A&M thumped us. Outside of that, we've matched up and challenged every team we've played. A massive improvement on any season since Leach passed awat.

Exactly. Well said Hack.

[Charlie_Sheen420]

All I will say is **** you Bob Sanders whoever the hell you were for getting Allyn McKeen fired. Who knows where we would be today without that debacle. We are cursed to misery and disappointment

[Quaoarsking]

Man, I wish you would stop posting. Or take a little break. You have dumbed down this board to unreadable proportions.

Lebby almost shut me up last night but then reverted back to his usual ѕhitty self.

[BrunswickDawg]

TIL Jeff Lebby's 6-14 (0-12) resume is equivalent to Allyn McKeen's 65-19 (29-16) resume. Like Jesus Christ, this Lebby fandom is turning into a cult with some of you.

Ah yes because YOU know so much you've IDd 5736384949 other football coaches just dying to take our job.

I'm a Lebby agnostic. Most people said coming into the season that we could be vastly improved and still go 4-8 and to be prepared. And that's how it looks it may play out. We are that far behind in NIL and resources and leads to lesser players. It's 1 thing I agree with C34 on. We are cheap, our fans are cheap, and we have never invested and gone all in on football. And right now, that's kicking our asses more than our players and coaches mistakes. It's why we had to settle for Lebby to begin with. It's why we have boneheaded cast off players. And it's why so many football diehards are so jealous of baseball - the one segment of our fanbase that ain't cheap.

[Coursesuper]

All I will say is **** you Bob Sanders whoever the hell you were for getting Allyn McKeen fired. Who knows where we would be today without that debacle. We are cursed to misery and disappointment

Delta alumnus at the time. I happen to have had the privilege of knowing a man that was with coach McKeen when that all happened. These fellas were all sitting together and a guy came in and said Coach, Coach Noble wants to see you. McKeen was like what the hell now. So he walks in the office and there sit Noble and a couple of delta alumni, Noble demands that McKeen switch offenses to the T formation right now. McKeen says I don?t have the personnel yet but I will in a year, that gives us time to install and work out the kinks for the following season. Noble said nope now and fired him. This is exactly the kind of behavior that we must avoid. Those that don?t know and study history are doomed to repeat it.

[Quaoarsking]

Most people said coming into the season that we could be vastly improved and still go 4-8 and to be prepared. And that's how it looks it may play out..

The thinking behind this was that Lebby would be a competent coach, but it just wouldn't be enough to overcome the talent gap. That's NOT what is actually playing out at all. The talent is actually good enough, despite the NIL gap, and Lebby is personally costing us wins with his incompetence.

It's OK that we didn't see this coming. We just have to stop being in denial about it and do what we need to do for the program. Lebby is never going to be the guy to make the playoffs here, or even be in the mix for them in November. He just doesn't have it. Rich programs can accumulate enough talent to overcome a mediocre coach, but we can't.

[Political Hack]

If we want to stop playing teams close and start winning these games, we need to replace the people who are causing us to lose. Lately, it's been Jeff Lebby.

I don't disagree that changes should be made in terms of how we're handling clutch time situations, but you have to give the staff a chance to learn and make adjustments. The Florida game should've been managed like a pro game (play for the FG and win on the final play), but he managed it like a high school game (get as close as you can for an easier FG attempt or score the TD). He won't do that again.

[gtowndawg]

The thinking behind this was that Lebby would be a competent coach, but it just wouldn't be enough to overcome the talent gap. That's NOT what is actually playing out at all. The talent is actually good enough, despite the NIL gap, and Lebby is personally costing us wins with his incompetence.

It's OK that we didn't see this coming. We just have to stop being in denial about it and do what we need to do for the program. Lebby is never going to be the guy to make the playoffs here, or even be in the mix for them in November. He just doesn't have it. Rich programs can accumulate enough talent to overcome a mediocre coach, but we can't.

Exactly. And out vaulted schedule that was impossible is currently sitting at #40 in the country and he still can't win. Fire Lebby, he sucks.

[Cowbeller]

All I will say is **** you Bob Sanders whoever the hell you were for getting Allyn McKeen fired. Who knows where we would be today without that debacle. We are cursed to misery and disappointment

Say what you will but at least our fanbases stupidity is consistent.

[Coursesuper]

Say what you will but at least our fanbases stupidity is consistent.

The amount of damage a few can do is astounding. And we seem fit to do it over and again.