I'm calling the first offense play of 2023 right now. QB Draw right up the middle
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I'm calling the first offense play of 2023 right now. QB Draw right up the middle
Where he go????
Bartoo was higher on Friend and Greg Knox than anyone else on the staff. He did say that he liked our staff and that is was better than last year but he also then said Barbay had a couple of good years but then said small sample size and didn't really sound certain about him good or bad. What I took from it is he is more confident about large sample sizes than anything. Which makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
He didn't say anything about Bumphis and couldn't remember Schmidt's name. I wonder if he thinks Knox is the running backs coach instead of Hughes the way he was talking?
The deal w Knox is, because of the new rules "allowing" him to coach, people are assuming he's the guy who is actually going to be coaching the rb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
They should just go ahead and bite the bullet and increase staff sizes to like 12-13.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Could look like this for a typical team
OC
QB
RB
WR
TE
OL
DC
DL
LB
CB
S
ST
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Originally Posted by Coach34
What. He is a career back up at VANDY!!!! He is a 52% passer.
We didn't need a back-up QB???Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Yes we had to have one. Has nothing to do with liking the "way its trending". We do not want to trend that direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Then we shouldn't have signed Parson either? The guy Leach wanted and everyone was telling us how Leach was going to evolve the offense. Kind of looks like you are making a mountain out of a mole hill.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
No it looks more like you are wanting to pick an internet fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Parson isn't a career back up with a history of throwing completed passes at 52%. It's 71% And that is the point being made.
huh????? What point? you wanted a better option???Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
So you wanted Arnett to convince somebody that wasn't a career backup to come and backup Will? Or you were expecting Arnett to pull somebody that was going to push Will to the bench so our backup QB won't be a career backup? Getting somebody that has performed ok behind Vandy's OL seems like about as good as it gets. A Jr. that is likely to be a quality starter is unlikely to come and sit the bench behind Will for one of his two remaining years. If a sophomore is transferring, they're probably going to want to start and if not, be really confident they are better than the freshman being signed. We just didn't have a lot of realistic options for QB transfers this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Someone that can actually operate in a passing offense would have been good.
Great. Who did you have in mind?Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
What is your point then? Like I said previously we need a backup. Don't give HS stats thinking it's always going to translate to college. I think Parson is going to be good, but he is no where close to being ready to be a backup. Especially, still coming off an injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Don't complain and make vague statements without an idea of a resolution to a problem you perceive.
Great, name who we realistically can get.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
He is an SEC starter coming to BACK UP here. We had no back up qb on the roster. How can you possibly be upset we got an SEC starting QB late in the portal to come be our backup while the talented freshmen redshirts?Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
RJ Martinez from Northern Arizona. Committed to Baylor instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
My point is that we should not like a "trend" towards that. Nothing more. Nothing less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Wait now. I'm suppose to be ok with Ole Miss getting QBs with a higher up side than us now? Is that where we are? What I want is to attract the players needed at MSU to take the next step. What I don't want is to "love the trend" used in the same sentence as a career back up throwing it at a 52%.Quote:
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So you wanted Arnett to convince somebody that wasn't a career backup to come and backup Will? Or you were expecting Arnett to pull somebody that was going to push Will to the bench so our backup QB won't be a career backup? Getting somebody that has performed ok behind Vandy's OL seems like about as good as it gets. A Jr. that is likely to be a quality starter is unlikely to come and sit the bench behind Will for one of his two remaining years. If a sophomore is transferring, they're probably going to want to start and if not, be really confident they are better than the freshman being signed. We just didn't have a lot of realistic options for QB transfers this year.
Does that make me anti Arnett. No.
Point? Se above. I made no vague statement. I was clear. Celebrating a 52% QB and career back up and hoping that is a trend is legit nuts. There is no perceived problem. It's a legit problem to have a massive gap below Rogers and above Parson. It more than concerning.Quote:
Really Clark?
What is your point then? Like I said previously we need a backup. Don't give HS stats thinking it's always going to translate to college. I think Parson is going to be good, but he is no where close to being ready to be a backup. Especially, still coming off an injury.
Don't complain and make vague statements without an idea of a resolution to a problem you perceive.
He is not an SEC starter. He lost out to 2 different QBs in his career at Vandy. This past season, he lost out to a freshman and played due to injuries:Quote:
DEDawg
He is an SEC starter coming to BACK UP here. We had no back up qb on the roster. How can you possibly be upset we got an SEC starting QB late in the portal to come be our backup while the talented freshmen redshirts?
Vandy’s junior quarterback will be the starter at the position once again when the Commodores take the field at 11 a.m. CT Saturday in Lexington, Kentucky. Wright resumes the role he began the season with as freshman AJ Swann will be out this week due to injury.
I see Mike Wright as a comparable to Nick Fitzgerald. We loved that guy but he would not have started at QB for any other school in the SEC. Mike Wright is exactly where he should be.
Welcome back.....Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Fitz was abetter passer. During Fitz time here, he had few quality WRs too. I do not want to go back to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reason2succeed
It will be hard to recruit WRa and QBs to this offense.
IGNORE TROLLS
I said who we could get realistically. Kid was going to a Texas school, he's from Austin. He didn't even want our coaches to visit.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
NopeQuote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Oh I see, you are a fool with an agenda and no solution to your perceived problem. In other words an obnoxious whiney troll.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Not at all with how many explosive plays the WR's get, much better than Leach's 3 yard check downs only to get blasted by a defender.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Nobody is trolling. I don't have a single problem with what the staff has done except for the lack of quality depth at QB. We will have more shots at the end of spring. A 52% passer is an issue and I don't care at what level you playin at let alone in the SEC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reason2succeed
It's a problem and the staff has to make up ground there.
Want perspective on that:
LSU in 2021 finished last in SECW. They threw it for 60%
This year:
115 Indiana 53.96% 48.65% 58.14% 57.93% 48.09% 50.27% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Won 4 games
116 Miami (OH) 53.85% 45.83% 55.56% 54.84% 53.19% 57.25% >>>>>>>>>>> Won 6 games
117 Florida 53.20% 51.09% 59.09% 54.23% 52.48% 62.04% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won 6
118 TX El Paso 53.16% 54.93% 48.00% 55.15% 51.63% 54.39% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won 5
119 Virginia 53.07% 52.13% 51.52% 56.36% 49.31% 63.15% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won 3
120 Hawaii 52.67% 53.78% 55.56% 52.87% 52.44% 55.38% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Won 3
121 New Mexico 51.88% 52.11% 44.44% 52.73% 51.16% 51.95% >>>>>>>>>>> Won 2
122 Auburn 50.87% 46.43% 47.83% 57.22% 39.00% 58.99% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Won 5
123 Wyoming 50.00% 44.00% 60.00% 52.99% 47.77% 54.24%>>>>>>>>>>>>Won 7
124 Rutgers 49.84% 47.25% 36.36% 49.10% 50.71% 56.99% ................... won 4...
125 Colorado 49.72% 46.48% 53.57% 55.87% 40.82% 56.69%
126 W Michigan 49.36% 41.43% 33.33% 43.26% 54.39% 63.01%
127 N Mex State 49.22% 57.75% 58.62% 52.69% 47.24% 55.97%
128 U Mass 48.06% 50.55% 52.00% 48.84% 47.67% 49.08%
129 Air Force 46.91% 41.67% 57.14% 48.28% 46.15% 48.15%
130 Navy 43.36% 38.89% 25.00% 32.35% 48.10% 49.48%
131 Army 42.00%
See the point?
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Originally Posted by Really Clark?
A fool thinks that a 52% passer is what we need.
The solution is to recruit better QBs in the next window.
It's not a perceived problem. It is a problem as shown with any year you want to look at when teams complete passes at that rate. It's not perceived when we have an issue between the starter and Parson is injured. That's a reality.
Troll? That's what people go to when they can't defend or have any other meaning comment. Not a damn thing I stated was factually wrong and I backed up what I stated with team finishes. If Will goes down, 52% will not win us games in the SEC. The QB room is a problem right now.
Whose problem is it to fix? HC Arnett. So let's get to work to find the next 2 years QB and more.
Oh calling you a troll has nothing to do with no defense for your absurd stance a week later. It has everything to do with all your posts actually coming from a troll who only wants to complain with no real solution, just bitching to bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Wright completed 57.4% of his passes this year, not 52%. If you are going to be a troll, at least be an accurate troll. 12 TD 4 INT and 134.06 passer rating (Will was only 139.08). So again, why you bitching with inaccurate stats,
We went after several QB's and still looking to add another. This is someone with actual SEC experience and was a good get to be a backup, no matter how much you bitch about it, doesn't change it was a dang good pick up.
That's your own misconceptions. I didn't complain about Wright coming here. I stated that this can not be the norm. A trend.... which is what was being said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
You are right. He is a 52% passer when you add it all in. If you want to not add in UGA, that's fine. That puts him at 55% over the past 2 season.
Tenn: 53.8
UK: 52.2
SC: 53.3
Wake: 53.3
Either way, you can ignore it all you want. This is not a trend we want. Parsons, yes.
Do you honestly think that if Coach Leach hadn’t passed away , that all 3 of the QBs that transferred, would have ALL stayed .?? That answer is no .. One if not 2 would have prob left. And one went to play for Tarelton State for ****s sakeQuote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
And apparently both Locke or Sawyer not only didn’t make a push for the starting job they couldn’t beat out Lovertich for the back up job ..
So not counting Greek , we basically we traded Sawyer and Locke for Wright who beat Fla and Kentucky ...
Excuse Me while I don’t go full panic mode
What are you taking about? He is 57.4% for this past season. He is 55.3% for his entire career, counting every single game he threw a pass in at Vandy. I know math is hard but damn what are you looking at.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
What about Georgia? Count it, I don't care, he only threw 1 pass dumbass.You are going leave off his 62.5% in the win over Florida? You need to go back over his stats, you are off dingleberry.
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Originally Posted by Ari Gold
Where do you get that I think that? Greek was going to transfer. The other 2? No idea, but there is zero point in talking about it. Leach did pass away. We did move away from that system.
Sawyer beat out Lovertich. Again. None of that has anything to do with this.
Who is going full panic mode?Quote:
Excuse Me while I don’t go full panic mode
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Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Like I said. 55% career if you don't add it. So let's make that easy for us. Don't count the game. I don't care. 55%. We can agree. See how easy that is. I'm not going to split hairs. That can not be the trend.
FL... We are seriously talking FL where he had a QBR of 50. 60% with 108 yards passing? That's what we want to be the trend? WRs coming here for that? come on.
Neither you nor I want that to be the trend. We both know that Clark. The good news is that's not going to be the trend.
I like the dingleberry line. very fitting
All we need is whiskey pirate to show up and the thread would be complete lol!
You still can't add and divide. He is over 55% for his career EVEN adding Georgia. Count Georgia because I am!! I counted them all, not trying to fudge a number. I don't think you are you just can't do the math. He has 333 passing attempts for his career. He has completed 184 passes. Divide 184 by 333 and you get .553, multiple that by 100 and that makes 55.3%. See not hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Nobody is claiming he is as accurate as Will but damn dude, of all things to be inaccurately using stats to argue about, a back-up SEC QB with starting experience in the league, ain't an arguing point. It's a damn fine backup option that late in the portal.
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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24