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bulldawg28
12-12-2021, 04:23 AM
I’m confused at the issue that keeps him coming from a place he wants to go. Can you share it in a PM. Is it something one of us could help with?

Sounds like money to me. Kentucky is probably paying more

Cooterpoot
12-12-2021, 04:38 AM
Look who visited with Nicholson. That will explain a little.

confucius say
12-12-2021, 09:24 AM
Sounds like money to me. Kentucky is probably paying more

Well that happens all the time. Not sure why that was made such a big deal on here. We made it sound like ky or Mississippi is holding a family member hostage. If it's just a business decision, we can stop with the rhetoric.

Cooterpoot
12-12-2021, 09:31 AM
Will be interesting to see what happens with Clayton. He seems like he's conflicted in his recruitment. Wants to be at State. Wants to play DL. Hopefully he gives it a try in Starkville and just let's the chips fall where they may.

ShotgunDawg
12-12-2021, 09:36 AM
Sounds like money to me. Kentucky is probably paying more

It's not money.

confucius say
12-12-2021, 09:36 AM
Will be interesting to see what happens with Clayton. He seems like he's conflicted in his recruitment. Wants to be at State. Wants to play DL. Hopefully he gives it a try in Starkville and just let's the chips fall where they may.

Are we dead set on him playing OL?

bulldawg28
12-12-2021, 10:26 AM
It's not money.

I bet money could fix it.

Santiago
12-12-2021, 10:43 AM
Did Simmons visit campus quietly?
Some on the TSUN 247 site thought he might have

BuckyIsAB****
12-12-2021, 10:54 AM
Nicholson just recently got a lot more on his plate than where to go play football.

BuckyIsAB****
12-12-2021, 10:55 AM
I bet money could fix it.

True

Cooterpoot
12-12-2021, 10:56 AM
Are we dead set on him playing OL?

There's a difference in projecting a player at a position and telling him you won't give him a chance at the spot he wants. We're willing to give him a look. He needs to be willing to gamble on himself.

KOdawg1
12-12-2021, 11:48 AM
So if I add Trevion Williams, Stone Blanton, Percy Lewis, Decarlos Nicholson, Trent Ramsey, Kalvin Dinkins, and Avery Sledge to 247sport's Class Calculator, that score would put us around 15th in the rankings as of now.

Of course, other teams will add players too, so that won't be where we end up, but a top 25 class is very likely, and that's not even taking into account transfers like Marcus Banks or Tyrese Chambers, or wildcards like Khamauri Rogers or Jacarius Clayton.

Need to finish strong.

HancockCountyDog
12-12-2021, 11:50 AM
Do we want Clayton? When he committed to the bears, many on here said we dropped him because he isn't close to being an SEC DL, but could be an OT all day.

KOdawg1
12-12-2021, 11:54 AM
Do we want Clayton? When he committed to the bears, many on here said we dropped him because he isn't close to being an SEC DL, but could be an OT all day.

I want him because he's 6'6", 280 lbs and is an SEC athlete. You give him the chance to play DL if that's what he wants to do and if it doesn't work out, he moves to OL or hits the portal. Not to mention, he could be the second OM commit we flip this year, and I love giving them a taste of their own medicine.

Cooterpoot
12-12-2021, 11:59 AM
Do we want Clayton? When he committed to the bears, many on here said we dropped him because he isn't close to being an SEC DL, but could be an OT all day.

He'll get his look at DL. The question is, will he be willing to play OL if he can't win a job or will he hit the portal. That's why I say, he should gamble on himself. Don't close doors. Go where he wants to go and try it.

Cooterpoot
12-12-2021, 12:07 PM
Going to be a lot of moving parts in recruiting til Feb. Going to be a lot of back and with guys after the first signing day this week. Going to be fun!

bulldawg28
12-12-2021, 12:17 PM
True

There we go

bulldawg28
12-12-2021, 12:19 PM
He'll get his look at DL. The question is, will he be willing to play OL if he can't win a job or will he hit the portal. That's why I say, he should gamble on himself. Don't close doors. Go where he wants to go and try it.

Yep, if you believe in you make it happen.

MetEdDawg
12-12-2021, 01:40 PM
Any thoughts on Moses Alexander? He was on campus this weekend and seems to be committing tomorrow.

4 star on 24/7. Any word on him?

BayouDawg
12-12-2021, 01:42 PM
Any thoughts on Moses Alexander? He was on campus this weekend and seems to be committing tomorrow.

4 star on 24/7. Any word on him?

I think Paul reported that he didn?t make it this weekend. Gonna choose between tcu and Houston on signing day.

Commercecomet24
12-12-2021, 01:44 PM
I bet money could fix it.

Maybe but not really in this situation. Some things trump money,

Commercecomet24
12-12-2021, 01:46 PM
Sounds like money to me. Kentucky is probably paying more

It's not money and never has been.

Maverick91
12-12-2021, 02:23 PM
Going to be a lot of moving parts in recruiting til Feb. Going to be a lot of back and with guys after the first signing day this week. Going to be fun!

Your definition of fun is what scares me.

Commercecomet24
12-12-2021, 02:31 PM
It's not money and never has been.

I will say this . We are doing everything in our power to get Decarlos. It's getting closer to happening and we may(I said may), get it done. We're closer than we've been since he decommited. I'm hopeful but not counting him, yet. Y'all cross your fingers.

DEDawg
12-12-2021, 02:39 PM
I will say this . We are doing everything in our power to get Decarlos. It's getting closer to happening and we may(I said may), get it done. We're closer than we've been since he decommited. I'm hopeful but not counting him, yet. Y'all cross your fingers.

Can you tell us what the situation is? Is it a parent?

Bdawg
12-12-2021, 02:44 PM
I will say this . We are doing everything in our power to get Decarlos. It's getting closer to happening and we may(I said may), get it done. We're closer than we've been since he decommited. I'm hopeful but not counting him, yet. Y'all cross your fingers.

What could be done to help the situation. How is going to Kentucky over us a better family situation( unless some family issues popped up in Kentucky??) Family seems to be the only thing more important than money in a recruiting situation. Or is it between us and OM? In that case, distance should't mean a whole lot.

Tripp McNeely
12-12-2021, 03:04 PM
Can you tell us what the situation is? Is it a parent?

Sounds like it is...probably not in the way you're thinking though

Op4isabitch
12-12-2021, 03:06 PM
If a parent is pushing him to Kentucky over MSU, I don’t know what I’d think about that choice.

Hambone
12-12-2021, 03:16 PM
Baby momma (future baby momma) in Kentucky?

Cowbell
12-12-2021, 03:18 PM
Baby momma (future baby momma) in Kentucky?

More likely here

Tater
12-12-2021, 03:21 PM
Baby momma (future baby momma) in Kentucky?

That's what it seems like to me.

Sick parent.
Baby momma.
Parent getting job in Kentucky drawing them there (Rogers' dad has this happening in Miami.)

Those the only things that make much sense outside of money. State shouldn't have an issue with grades so idk.

Cooterpoot
12-12-2021, 03:27 PM
Nicholson's GF came on the visit with him. There's nothing sinister here.

Catfish
12-12-2021, 03:27 PM
I think we need to give Commerce a break on this. Evidently he can't elaborate on the situation or he would have.

Commercecomet24
12-12-2021, 03:30 PM
Nicholson's GF came on the visit with him. There's nothing sinister here.

This is the key right here.

We're close right now real close.

Commercecomet24
12-12-2021, 03:34 PM
I think we need to give Commerce a break on this. Evidently he can't elaborate on the situation or he would have.

Thanks. This kid is like part of my family and I'm not gonna get into this on open message board. Let's just say family stuff sometimes beats out every thing else. We're real close right now to getting him back. Cross your fingers this one could actually come back to us. Decarlos is a great young man and he's gonna do great things. Hope it's in maroon and white cause this one is too personal to me!

Remember folks recruiting isn't all
just about who offers the most money if it was it'd be easy but it's not. There's real people with real lives involved in this.

This one is more complicated than normal way more complicated.

bobcat91
12-12-2021, 03:37 PM
And Paul on 247 just threw a grenade. Says he thinks Blanton goes to South Carolina

VandelayIndustries
12-12-2021, 03:39 PM
Think he said wasn?t sure about Blanton didn?t see him say South Carolina

ETA: never mind just saw it bobcat is right

KOdawg1
12-12-2021, 03:43 PM
If we lose Blanton to South Caro-freaking-lina, somebody's head needs to roll.

preachermatt83
12-12-2021, 03:48 PM
I think stone ends up at OM

DEDawg
12-12-2021, 03:49 PM
And Paul on 247 just threw a grenade. Says he thinks Blanton goes to South Carolina

How is this possible? I haven?t heard a thing about USC. I thought he was in here for baseball. Can someone explain what happened here?

KOdawg1
12-12-2021, 03:52 PM
I think stone ends up at OM

OM is third. We're probably 2nd.

MetEdDawg
12-12-2021, 03:52 PM
Here's my question on Blanton.

We win a national championship in baseball and have all of our defensive staff seemingly coming back.

You don't want to play football/baseball in state for the program that just won a national title and will graduate 3 linebackers next year?

Then what the hell are you doing?

preachermatt83
12-12-2021, 03:55 PM
Any chance we could flip jacarius Clayton from OM?

William Tecumsah Sherman
12-12-2021, 03:58 PM
Blanton to USC east is wild. I thought we had him locked up.

confucius say
12-12-2021, 04:02 PM
Here's my question on Blanton.

We win a national championship in baseball and have all of our defensive staff seemingly coming back.

You don't want to play football/baseball in state for the program that just won a national title and will graduate 3 linebackers next year?

Then what the hell are you doing?

Trying not to disappoint your state or Mississippi family. Rather tell them both no then pick one over the other. I'm just speculating.

HoopsDawg
12-12-2021, 04:05 PM
How is this possible? I haven?t heard a thing about USC. I thought he was in here for baseball. Can someone explain what happened here?

South Carolina's staff has done a great job recruiting him.

HoopsDawg
12-12-2021, 04:06 PM
Here's my question on Blanton.

We win a national championship in baseball and have all of our defensive staff seemingly coming back.

You don't want to play football/baseball in state for the program that just won a national title and will graduate 3 linebackers next year?

Then what the hell are you doing?

It's a football based decision first...but South Carolina has a really good baseball program too.

CadaverDawg
12-12-2021, 04:32 PM
Blanton to SC? Now that's the MSU recruiting news I remember. Things are back to normal now.*

Leroy Jenkins
12-12-2021, 04:35 PM
Can someone explain what happened here?

He doesn't want to get dropped to a 3* before signing day.

Commercecomet24
12-12-2021, 04:38 PM
How is this possible? I haven?t heard a thing about USC. I thought he was in here for baseball. Can someone explain what happened here?

Looks like playing time is an issue with him.

Leroy Jenkins
12-12-2021, 04:41 PM
Looks like playing time is an issue with him.

So he doesn't think he can crack the 2-deep at MSU in a year or two?

Or, is this a post-visit bump that will fade in a day or so?

Or, Paul trying to get them last minute clicks before 'crootin goes quiet for a while.

HancockCountyDog
12-12-2021, 05:08 PM
And Paul on 247 just threw a grenade. Says he thinks Blanton goes to South Carolina

I?ll believe it when I see it.

ZedFedder
12-12-2021, 05:40 PM
The truth is that, good or bad, none of the people on here really ever knew anything ����

confucius say
12-12-2021, 05:54 PM
Blantons brother is raging on Twitter. He deleted some but some are still up. And the deleted one roasting Lane and Mississippi is screenshot and floating around too.

This is what I meant about going out of state to avoid family drama. He has family members pushing both in state schools hard.

vv83
12-12-2021, 06:01 PM
Blantons brother is raging on Twitter. He deleted some but some are still up. And the deleted one roasting Lane and Mississippi is screenshot and floating around too.

This is what I meant about going out of state to avoid family drama. He has family members pushing both in state schools hard.
Can you post them in here?

CadaverDawg
12-12-2021, 06:06 PM
Blantons brother is raging on Twitter. He deleted some but some are still up. And the deleted one roasting Lane and Mississippi is screenshot and floating around too.

This is what I meant about going out of state to avoid family drama. He has family members pushing both in state schools hard.

I guess my family is different, but I'd tell my brother to shut the F up and mind his own business.

Leroy Jenkins
12-12-2021, 06:19 PM
Can you post them in here?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGcP_h9WYAYIYRe?format=jpg&name=large

HancockCountyDog
12-12-2021, 06:19 PM
I guess my family is different, but I'd tell my brother to shit the F up and mind his own business.

Totally agree.

Catfish
12-12-2021, 06:21 PM
Dang, Ole Miss pissed him off.

HancockCountyDog
12-12-2021, 06:22 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGcP_h9WYAYIYRe?format=jpg&name=large

Well it looks like the bears spin that they dropped him may have a hint of truth.

confucius say
12-12-2021, 06:29 PM
The replies to his follow up tweets have been interesting too. So far I've learned from Mississippi fans that they don't need a "white private school linebacker." Their words.

BankerDog
12-12-2021, 06:39 PM
A 6?2, 220 LB that runs a 4.88 40 doesn?t necessarily scream ?difference maker? to me. After watching him play against Oakland (TN), I wasn?t impressed. They lined up in the I and ran right at Blanton and he didn?t make very many plays.

vv83
12-12-2021, 06:39 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGcP_h9WYAYIYRe?format=jpg&name=large

Wow. Something about this is fishy… if he isn’t going to Ole Miss he should be coming here. Are both MS schools dropping him, something happen?

BuckyIsAB****
12-12-2021, 06:40 PM
I will be surprised if Blanton does not come to state

William Tecumsah Sherman
12-12-2021, 06:41 PM
Paul and Steve both changed Blanton crystal balls to South Carolina

Catfish
12-12-2021, 06:42 PM
I will be surprised if Blanton does not come to state

Agree, something else is going on here.

Bothrops
12-12-2021, 06:55 PM
I will be surprised if Blanton does not come to state

It looks like he is, in fact, not coming to State.

bulldawg28
12-12-2021, 06:56 PM
A 6?2, 220 LB that runs a 4.88 40 doesn?t necessarily scream ?difference maker? to me. After watching him play against Oakland (TN), I wasn?t impressed. They lined up in the I and ran right at Blanton and he didn?t make very many plays.

It is what it is.

HancockCountyDog
12-12-2021, 06:57 PM
Agree, something else is going on here.

I'm wondering if we are landing more kids than we thought and since he was out shopping, we did too and eventually we dropped him, he wants to stay in-state and tries to go back to the bears, and they don't respond.

This is the only scenario that makes sense to me based on how this recruitment has gone.

Bothrops
12-12-2021, 07:05 PM
He doesn't want to get dropped to a 3* before signing day.

This^^^

STATEBALLIN
12-12-2021, 07:05 PM
I'm wondering if we are landing more kids than we thought and since he was out shopping, we did too and eventually we dropped him, he wants to stay in-state and tries to go back to the bears, and they don't respond.

This is the only scenario that makes sense to me based on how this recruitment has gone.

He wants to be able to play both sports apparently. He won?t develop in neither IMO if that?s the case. Would love to have him but I don?t think it?s a huge loss.

confucius say
12-12-2021, 07:06 PM
A 6?2, 220 LB that runs a 4.88 40 doesn?t necessarily scream ?difference maker? to me. After watching him play against Oakland (TN), I wasn?t impressed. They lined up in the I and ran right at Blanton and he didn?t make very many plays.

Yea his senior tape was not great. Especially early. Much better later when he had 21 tackles against public school Raleigh and against JA. In his defense, he was playing hurt coming off an off season shoulder injury the first 4-6 weeks.

Leroy Jenkins
12-12-2021, 07:08 PM
Where is TJ Dudley going now that the Oregon staff is gone? Three hours away, Montgomery to Starkville, is the perfect distance to go away to school, in my expert opinion.

Bothrops
12-12-2021, 07:14 PM
Three days from an MSU football recruiting close is like a tightly fought basketball game, and your team is the underdog.

CadaverDawg
12-12-2021, 07:17 PM
Three days from an MSU football recruiting close is like a tightly fought basketball game, and your team is the underdog.

To me it feels like you're the nerd at the school dance, and all the girls are showing you attention since you're the only guy there.....but all the football players are on their way, and you know how it's going to end when they arrive. The girls leave with them, and you end up with a swirly or stuffed in a locker.

HancockCountyDog
12-12-2021, 07:19 PM
He wants to be able to play both sports apparently. He won?t develop in neither IMO if that?s the case. Would love to have him but I don?t think it?s a huge loss.

Here is my question, did we drop him? If we did, it doesn't make sense because we went in-home with him last week.

I'm getting too old for some of this crap.

BankerDog
12-12-2021, 07:20 PM
It is what it is.

And it?s gonna be what it?s gonna be. If the kid doesn?t wanna be here, just move on. Only so much you can do.

Leroy Jenkins
12-12-2021, 07:23 PM
Here is my question, did we drop him? If we did, it doesn't make sense because we went in-home with him last week.

I'm getting too old for some of this crap.


You have to recruit multiple guys up until all your targets have signed. "IF" there is a bigger fish out there we think we can land, and we don't land, everyone would be pissed if we didn't have backup plans. So, you have to do the work just in case. It's just how it is if you don't want to get left empty handed.

KOdawg1
12-12-2021, 07:24 PM
To me it feels like you're the nerd at the school dance, and all the girls are showing you attention since you're the only guy there.....but all the football players are on their way, and you know how it's going to end when they arrive. The girls leave with them, and you end up with a swirly or stuffed in a locker.

Spot f'ing on

BuckyIsAB****
12-12-2021, 07:30 PM
A 6?2, 220 LB that runs a 4.88 40 doesn?t necessarily scream ?difference maker? to me. After watching him play against Oakland (TN), I wasn?t impressed. They lined up in the I and ran right at Blanton and he didn?t make very many plays.

I did not want to be the first guy but in the title game against hartfield I didnt see him do much then either. Maybe he was bored but I would like to have him

bulldawg28
12-12-2021, 07:30 PM
And it?s gonna be what it?s gonna be. If the kid doesn?t wanna be here, just move on. Only so much you can do.

Yep

HancockCountyDog
12-12-2021, 07:31 PM
You have to recruit multiple guys up until all your targets have signed. "IF" there is a bigger fish out there we think we can land, and we don't land, everyone would be pissed if we didn't have backup plans. So, you have to do the work just in case. It's just how it is if you don't want to get left empty handed.

I'm with you. I'll just be surprised if we dropped him this late. If we did though, its his own fault. He flirted with the bears for too long and now he has to go play in Columbia instead of getting to play MSU in both football/baseball

somebodyshotmypaw
12-12-2021, 07:33 PM
Here is my question, did we drop him? If we did, it doesn't make sense because we went in-home with him last week.

I'm getting too old for some of this crap.

We didn’t drop him. We want him. However, USC has him much higher on their recruiting wish list than we do. In both sports.

Catfish
12-12-2021, 07:33 PM
Leach don't mess around if you piss him off.

STATEBALLIN
12-12-2021, 07:37 PM
Here is my question, did we drop him? If we did, it doesn't make sense because we went in-home with him last week.

I'm getting too old for some of this crap.

I doubt it.

bulldawg28
12-12-2021, 07:39 PM
One position I don't worry about at MSU is linebackers and running backs. For whatever reason we will always have them on the team.

Bdawg
12-12-2021, 07:40 PM
Baby momma (future baby momma) in Kentucky?

My thoughts too but don't want to speculate on stuff like that.

Leroy Jenkins
12-12-2021, 07:40 PM
Leach don't mess around if you piss him off.

I don't know if it applies to this situation, it very well may. But, if Leach doesn't get the answers he wants, in the timeline he wants, he has been known to cut bait.

bobcat91
12-12-2021, 07:41 PM
It was hinted that Stone is making his choice based on the ability to get on the field. Apparently SC promised quick playing time. Like Rico in the Fansville commercial, Stone's time is now.

Cowboydawg
12-12-2021, 07:42 PM
You have to recruit multiple guys up until all your targets have signed. "IF" there is a bigger fish out there we think we can land, and we don't land, everyone would be pissed if we didn't have backup plans. So, you have to do the work just in case. It's just how it is if you don't want to get left empty handed.

Nobody wants to hear or believe this but South Carolina was the only papers he was going to receive Wednesday. No papers from MSU and no papers from OM. I know he is a ?4 star? from Madison, MS so that is hard to believe. He was a big recruit for Lemonis that Leach could?ve closed and there was a lot of pressure to make that happen. Good football player but we have the linebackers that we want. The melt over this is way overblown.

MetEdDawg
12-12-2021, 07:45 PM
If he wants to get on the field faster and would rather leave the state of MS and go to South Carolina to do it, then I'm not sure what else to say.

I think that's a terribly short sighted and misinformed decision.

Jarius
12-12-2021, 07:45 PM
Nobody wants to hear or believe this but South Carolina was the only papers he was going to receive Wednesday. No papers from MSU and no papers from OM. I know he is a ?4 star? from Madison, MS so that is hard to believe. He was a big recruit for Lemonis that Leach could?ve closed and there was a lot of pressure to make that happen. Good football player but we have the linebackers that we want. The melt over this is way overblown.

Nobody wants to hear this because it isn’t true. He’s not going to destroy the program or anything by not coming but you have really bad information if anyone is telling you we don’t want to sign him.

Commercecomet24
12-12-2021, 07:46 PM
It was hinted that Stone is making his choice based on the ability to get on the field. Apparently SC promised quick playing time. Like Rico in the Fansville commercial, Stone's time is now.

Yeah this is what I heard as well.

HancockCountyDog
12-12-2021, 07:46 PM
Nobody wants to hear or believe this but South Carolina was the only papers he was going to receive Wednesday. No papers from MSU and no papers from OM. I know he is a ?4 star? from Madison, MS so that is hard to believe. He was a big recruit for Lemonis that Leach could?ve closed and there was a lot of pressure to make that happen. Good football player but we have the linebackers that we want. The melt over this is way overblown.

I guess we will never know the true story. This is clearly a trust the coaches moment. People are saying we didn't drop him, but this post suggests we did. If we weren't sending him papers Wednesday, that means we dropped him, which makes the SC landing make sense, especially if the bears dropped him as well, which now it appears clearly happened based on his brother's posts.

Moving on...........

KOdawg1
12-12-2021, 07:57 PM
Guys, don't make sad excuses. We got beat. Don't talk down on his abilities because you weren't doing that when we thought we were getting him. Sounds like sour grapes.

Move on.

Bdawg
12-12-2021, 07:59 PM
If he wants to get on the field faster and would rather leave the state of MS and go to South Carolina to do it, then I'm not sure what else to say.

I think that's a terribly short sighted and misinformed decision.

Seemed like it to me too. Leach has always said the best will play and I believe that when Walley didn't start. Leach saw something he didn't like and was trying to get his attention I believe. I love that in a coach. Hold people accountable so there will be no bad apples. All that to say, I don't believe Leach promises playing time.

Cowboydawg
12-12-2021, 08:04 PM
[QUOTE=Jarius;1394332]Nobody wants to hear this because it isn’t true. He’s not going to destroy the program or anything by not coming but you have really bad information if anyone is telling you we don’t want to sign him.[/QUOTE

I posted this weeks ago but your sources on the staff may be better than mine.

DCdawg
12-12-2021, 08:13 PM
I posted this weeks ago but your sources on the staff may be better than mine.

I don't have any sources, but why was Arnett in his house a couple of days ago? Why waste the time?

Bdawg
12-12-2021, 08:15 PM
So does this mean we have 3 LBs already locked up and wouldn't promise him playing time? I also feel like promising a kid playing is just lying to them. He may suck in practice his whole freshman year and then going to be pissed because he can't get on the field like "promised" and then be mad he didn't go to State. I know recruiting is telling a kid what they want to hear sometimes, like "sure you can try this position first but if it doesn't work out we may need you here." Just seems like Stone is making a rash decision here at the end. Oh well, like I said, hope we already got 3 locked up!

Leroy Jenkins
12-12-2021, 08:15 PM
Well, we will soon see who fills his spot on signing day. Then the mystery of which side decided to move on will be solved. Either way isn't it about time to move on to the next emergency?

Leroy Jenkins
12-12-2021, 08:17 PM
I don't have any sources, but why was Arnett in his house a couple of days ago? Why waste the time?

You know how many LB's Arnett visits?

Bdawg
12-12-2021, 08:17 PM
I don't have any sources, but why was Arnett in his house a couple of days ago? Why waste the time?

Maybe we were taking 3 or 4 LBs if he came. Maybe he didn't like that? Recruiting guys, how many backers did we want since Brule transferred? I thought 3.

HancockCountyDog
12-12-2021, 08:18 PM
You know how many LB's Arnett visits?

I have no idea, i just know that the last week of recruiting you don't waste time recruiting a kid if you intend to drop him 2-3 days later. At least that usually doesn't happen.

Its very odd.

Bdawg
12-12-2021, 08:19 PM
Well, we will soon see who fills his spot on signing day. Then the mystery of which side decided to move on will be solved. Either way isn't it about time to move on to the next emergency?

Well let's hope one doesn't pop up!!! But 3 days in MSU recruiting might as well be 3 weeks! �� <<< smiley face

Cowboydawg
12-12-2021, 08:24 PM
I don't have any sources, but why was Arnett in his house a couple of days ago? Why waste the time?

Because you keep all your options open. Sledge and Bell were both higher on the Lb board. Looks like we missed on Bell because he wants to play wr but we got Sledge. And add in that Stone is a baseball commit?.

DCdawg
12-12-2021, 08:26 PM
You know how many LB's Arnett visits?

Like I said, I don't have any sources. But it was less than a week before signing day and bowl practice was starting so I don't imagine Arnett is visiting many uncommitted LBs at this point.

bobcat91
12-12-2021, 08:28 PM
Stone is a very good player and good guy by all accounts. No need to trash a guy who isn't coming. Here's the deal with Stone. He liked the staff and playing situation at South Carolina better. It's simply that. We have 2 excellent LB in this class, one had an Oklahoma offer, and will probably add One more that may be better than the other two when he is finished. I hate to see Mississippi kids leave the State, but several are. I like where we are in this class. Also, Dinkins has blown up as a DL and is looking like he will sign this week. Bama is trying to get him to wait. I said Bama, but by all means keep on with the Po Ole State routine. It's tried and old.

Catfish
12-12-2021, 08:34 PM
I'm optimistic and pumped. I believe we're going to be very happy Wednesday.

Cowboydawg
12-12-2021, 08:43 PM
I'm optimistic and pumped. I believe we're going to be very happy Wednesday.

It is going to be a strong finish. But nobody has a clue what Rogers is going to do.

Ari Gold
12-12-2021, 08:44 PM
i think I said this on Blanton a few moths ago, if not on here it was talked about on a text chain with some posters.

We really needed to win the recruiting battle over OM for Blanton for one reason.. to win the PR . That’s it

Now if or when he signs with the Cocks it isn’t upsetting in the least. Would still love him to chose us on Wednesday ( if we send papers)
If not best of luck to the kid in Columbia.
To add , odds are we won’t hear the name Stone Blanton very much over the next 4-5 years unless he hits the portal or sticks to the diamond full time..

And on another note, I was 100% wrong.. we should offer the Ford kid from East Webster IF we have a spot open..
he may never be a SEC LB but I have heard from some coaches that he’s is a throw back football player.. I like shit like that

Chuck3124
12-12-2021, 08:47 PM
Don?t shoot the messenger but I was told by someone who works with the recruiting stuff we should end with a top 15 class we shall see come Wednesday fingers crossed here

Jarius
12-12-2021, 08:48 PM
[QUOTE=Jarius;1394332]Nobody wants to hear this because it isn’t true. He’s not going to destroy the program or anything by not coming but you have really bad information if anyone is telling you we don’t want to sign him.[/QUOTE

I posted this weeks ago but your sources on the staff may be better than mine.

You posting it weeks ago doesn’t make it any less accurate.

Cowboydawg
12-12-2021, 08:57 PM
[QUOTE=Cowboydawg;1394339]

You posting it weeks ago doesn’t make it any less accurate.

He?s a good football player. Still on the board, just not the priority our fans think he should be since he has 4 stars.

Ari Gold
12-12-2021, 09:03 PM
And papa Blanton needs to tell son Blanton to stay the **** off twitter. How embarrassing even if it’s negative towards OM

HoopsDawg
12-12-2021, 09:03 PM
i think I said this on Blanton a few moths ago, if not on here it was talked about on a text chain with some posters.

We really needed to win the recruiting battle over OM for Blanton for one reason.. to win the PR . That?s it

Now if or when he signs with the Cocks it isn?t upsetting in the least. Would still love him to chose us on Wednesday ( if we send papers)
If not best of luck to the kid in Columbia.
To add odds are we won?t here the name Stone Blanton very much over the next 4-5 years unless he hits the portal or sticks to the diamond full time..

And on another note, I was 100% wrong.. we should offer the Ford kid from East Webster IF we have a spot open..
he may never be a SEC LB but I have heard from some coaches that he?s is a throw back football player.. I like shit like that

This is a good post.

preachermatt83
12-12-2021, 09:23 PM
Leach don't mess around if you piss him off.

This

bobcat91
12-12-2021, 09:35 PM
And papa Blanton needs to tell son Blanton to stay the **** off twitter. How embarrassing even if it’s negative towards OM

It may be, but it is well understood that Kiffin has pissed off a large number of coaches in this state by his recruiting antics and flat out treating HC like crap. It catches up with you. Take a look at how many kids from Mississippi are going there. It will make a difference at some point and this is starting to get out in public.

Cooterpoot
12-12-2021, 11:40 PM
Ho Hum
Blanton pusses out because he's scared to fight for a spot. Imagine that! I tried to tell you he wasn't a big loss before. I'd take his stars but he's no difference maker.
Warned you, it's going to be fun til Feb. Just hang on. Don't get caught up in the BS and ebb and flow. Still got a shot to be around top 25. Still another surprise waiting.
Never get caught up in the overselling of things either. Sometimes you've got to simply use common sense (I know that's tough for a couple people).

Bothrops
12-12-2021, 11:45 PM
Ho Hum
Blanton pusses out because he's scared to fight for a spot. Imagine that! I tried to tell you he wasn't a big loss before. I'd take his stars but he's no difference maker.
Warned you, it's going to be fun til Feb. Just hang on. Don't get caught up in the BS and ebb and flow. Still got a shot to be around top 25. Still another surprise waiting.
Never get caught up in the overselling of things either. Sometimes you've got to simply use common sense (I know that's tough for a couple people).

Stone better think long about playing big boy football and if he really wants to or not. If I were good in baseball I dont know if I'd want to risk injury and screw that up.

DLGDawg
12-13-2021, 12:04 AM
IMO, I think baseball is the motivating factor here. My son played on the same summer baseball EC Sox team. Stone was very excited to get the baseball offer from state. That was the 16U team.
Now, here we are, post NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP season with baseball recruiting on a different level.

Idk what South Carolina is telling the Blantons regarding baseball, but I believe they must feel like there's a better chance to get on the diamond there.

Again, this is just imho. Based on being around the Blantons that summer.



Ho Hum
Blanton pusses out because he's scared to fight for a spot. Imagine that! I tried to tell you he wasn't a big loss before. I'd take his stars but he's no difference maker.
Warned you, it's going to be fun til Feb. Just hang on. Don't get caught up in the BS and ebb and flow. Still got a shot to be around top 25. Still another surprise waiting.
Never get caught up in the overselling of things either. Sometimes you've got to simply use common sense (I know that's tough for a couple people).

Irondawg
12-13-2021, 12:17 AM
From the football side Stone always seemed like Cumbest 2.0 to me. Good enough to play both but not good enough to earn lots of PT at either while splitting time.

I have no idea what will happen in the next 3 years. I really thought he was coming to State and wanted him but it?s really tough to do 2 sports in the SEC.

And several that have better sources seem to think baseball is the first love.

Saltydog
12-13-2021, 09:38 AM
Here's the truth about coaches "promising" a recruit/any recruit playing time. If they "promise" that, it's coach speak and they're lying and said recruit should think long and hard about playing for a liar. That's what I appreciate about Leach, he's not a liar. Not a single coach in the SEC is going to start a kid or give him significant playing time unless he's good enough.

BayouDawg
12-13-2021, 09:52 AM
To be honest I mainly wanted Stone for the rankings boost. But on a positive note I am very excited about Zavion. All my LSU coworkers are pissed that LSU didnt offer and they tell me we got the steal of the class with him.

Turfdawg67
12-13-2021, 10:06 AM
Ho Hum
Blanton pusses out because he's scared to fight for a spot. Imagine that! I tried to tell you he wasn't a big loss before. I'd take his stars but he's no difference maker.
Warned you, it's going to be fun til Feb. Just hang on. Don't get caught up in the BS and ebb and flow. Still got a shot to be around top 25. Still another surprise waiting.
Never get caught up in the overselling of things either. Sometimes you've got to simply use common sense (I know that's tough for a couple people).

So no need to pay attention to posts with ... :cool: :cool: :cool:. Got it!

Cooterpoot
12-13-2021, 10:39 AM
So no need to pay attention to posts with ... :cool: :cool: :cool:. Got it!

Just the ones with two it appears

TrapGame
12-13-2021, 10:40 AM
Here's the truth about coaches "promising" a recruit/any recruit playing time. If they "promise" that, it's coach speak and they're lying and said recruit should think long and hard about playing for a liar. That's what I appreciate about Leach, he's not a liar. Not a single coach in the SEC is going to start a kid or give him significant playing time unless he's good enough.

Lying to a kid like that creates a lot of Ricos who think their time is always now. It will keep the portal hopping for many years to come.

Commercecomet24
12-13-2021, 10:57 AM
Here's the truth about coaches "promising" a recruit/any recruit playing time. If they "promise" that, it's coach speak and they're lying and said recruit should think long and hard about playing for a liar. That's what I appreciate about Leach, he's not a liar. Not a single coach in the SEC is going to start a kid or give him significant playing time unless he's good enough.

This exactly and apparently Blanton wants promises.

CadaverDawg
12-13-2021, 11:12 AM
Janari Dean enters portal. That sucks

HancockCountyDog
12-13-2021, 11:17 AM
Janari Dean enters portal. That sucks

Had high hopes for him. Probably for the best.

STATEBALLIN
12-13-2021, 11:25 AM
Janari Dean enters portal. That sucks

Not surprised. He hasn?t contributed really -due to injuries I suppose- can?t afford to keep guys around anymore.

Chuck3124
12-13-2021, 11:47 AM
With Janari Dean in the portal. What situation does that put us in with guys like Rogers, Nicholson, etc

KOdawg1
12-13-2021, 12:01 PM
With Janari Dean in the portal. What situation does that put us in with guys like Rogers, Nicholson, etc
Dean was a Safety that wants to play RB. Those guys are CBS.

We ain't getting Rogers.

Nicholson is probably still a toss up even though we're looking better.

Need to land Marcus Banks.

HoopsDawg
12-13-2021, 12:05 PM
Dean was a Safety that wants to play RB. Those guys are CBS.

We ain't getting Rogers.

Nicholson is probably still a toss up even though we're looking better.

Need to land Marcus Banks.

apparently Banks to Miami.

CadaverDawg
12-13-2021, 12:23 PM
Sounds like the excitement was short lived. Looking like our typical end of cycle crash and burn

KOdawg1
12-13-2021, 12:50 PM
apparently Banks to Miami.
Haha damn. McBath is so bad at this.

Miami is going to beat us for 2 kids at CB. With a new coaching staff that hasn't even been there for 2 weeks.

Blanton- miss
Oatis- miss
Rogers- miss
Banks- miss
Desmond Williams (ECCC CB)- miss
Z. Harris - miss
Ajay Allen - likely miss

We're pretty much banking on Trevion Williams and Percy Lewis to save us. Nicholson is a must get now. You miss on him, and some serious questions need to be asked regarding McBath and CB recruiting.

BeardoMSU
12-13-2021, 12:57 PM
Sounds like the excitement was short lived. Looking like our typical end of cycle crash and burn

We do this to ourselves every year, lol.

HancockCountyDog
12-13-2021, 12:59 PM
apparently Banks to Miami.

That sucks, was hearing things were trending in our direction;

dawgman15
12-13-2021, 01:27 PM
Cristobal is known as one of the best recruiters in the country.

preachermatt83
12-13-2021, 01:43 PM
Haha damn. McBath is so bad at this.

Miami is going to beat us for 2 kids at CB. With a new coaching staff that hasn't even been there for 2 weeks.

Blanton- miss
Oatis- miss
Rogers- miss
Banks- miss
Desmond Williams (ECCC CB)- miss
Z. Harris - miss
Ajay Allen - likely miss

We're pretty much banking on Trevion Williams and Percy Lewis to save us. Nicholson is a must get now. You miss on him, and some serious questions need to be asked regarding McBath and CB recruiting.
Trevion williams, Lewis, Ramsey, Nicholson, and dinkins.

Hambone
12-13-2021, 01:48 PM
So no pissing our pants anymore? Well I guess that’s a silver lining in itself

Ari Gold
12-13-2021, 01:50 PM
Just because a beat writer from Miami is pushing the narrative on Banks to the canes let’s all not over react .. he may go there but he and his fam just left Starkville less than 24 hours ago..
and according to my source ( who is a coach on staff ) it went good and we like our chances,,

dawgman15
12-13-2021, 01:54 PM
In previous years on the first page of the recruiting thread there was a list that was edited full of our commits with links to their profiles. Would it be possible to go back to that format for future recruiting threads?

BayouDawg
12-13-2021, 01:56 PM
I dont get quite as worked up about recruiting as I used to. Its such a crapshoot for us. One of our best classes was 2015 or 2016 that was ranked in the top 18. That class ended up having a lot of duds and no real game changers.
And the 2011 class that ended up in the 40s produced some monsters like Dak and Preston Smith.
That being said I would much rather be in the top 20 every year but at the same time theres no telling with these kids.

Captain Falcon
12-13-2021, 02:30 PM
I dont get quite as worked up about recruiting as I used to. Its such a crapshoot for us. One of our best classes was 2015 or 2016 that was ranked in the top 18. That class ended up having a lot of duds and no real game changers.
And the 2011 class that ended up in the 40s produced some monsters like Dak and Preston Smith.
That being said I would much rather be in the top 20 every year but at the same time theres no telling with these kids.

I think you definitely have to focus on the class as a whole rather than one or two specific guys that you may or may not have gotten. Like you mentioned though, even one year's specific class ranking can be deceiving. That 2011 class was super underrated in hindsight, whereas our highest ranked class in recent years (2015) was pretty overrated in hindsight with blue chip guys like Lewis, Peters, and Dear having pretty unremarkable careers.

I think in general the best indicator is your average class ranking over a period of a few years. We sign a lot of borderline Top 25 classes, we have a lot of borderline Top 25 teams, makes sense. Some years you may exceed your average recruiting ranking, some years you may fall short of it, and the same goes for on the field results. One class isn't going to make or break your program 99% of the time. It's more about stacking several good classes in a row. And most time you can't tell if a class is "good" or not for 2-3 years down the road.

HancockCountyDog
12-13-2021, 02:39 PM
I know it is shortsighted on my part, but my focus is on a Transfer CB, OT, and WR.

We have a shot to win 9-10 games next fall if we can hit on those spots in the portal.

TorpedoIPA
12-13-2021, 02:41 PM
I dont get quite as worked up about recruiting as I used to. Its such a crapshoot for us. One of our best classes was 2015 or 2016 that was ranked in the top 18. That class ended up having a lot of duds and no real game changers.
And the 2011 class that ended up in the 40s produced some monsters like Dak and Preston Smith.
That being said I would much rather be in the top 20 every year but at the same time theres no telling with these kids.

I suspect that this will be the highest ranked class Leach has ever had. He did have the 28th class in 2006 at Texas Tech. His greatest team was 2008 which was preceded by classes ranked 39, 38, 28 and 32.

bulldawg28
12-13-2021, 02:46 PM
Just don't blame the coaches fellas. They're getting them on campus. Either way we'll get whom we're supposed to get.

HoopsDawg
12-13-2021, 02:59 PM
I know it is shortsighted on my part, but my focus is on a Transfer CB, OT, and WR.

We have a shot to win 9-10 games next fall if we can hit on those spots in the portal.

A transfer CB is an absolute must. We only have 1 starting CB on the roster. Transfer OT's are tough to find b/c schools aren't going to let a good one hit the portal. WR is a luxury, but I would like the kid that visited from FIU. Need to find a kicker. I wish we had more speed at Safety and LB as well.

HancockCountyDog
12-13-2021, 03:08 PM
A transfer CB is an absolute must. We only have 1 starting CB on the roster. Transfer OT's are tough to find b/c schools aren't going to let a good one hit the portal. WR is a luxury, but I would like the kid that visited from FIU. Need to find a kicker. I wish we had more speed at Safety and LB as well.

The OT from FIU has like 30 Power 5 offers. I don't know his name, but I thought we had a shot and then I'm seeing Ohio State and half the SEC and Big 10 offer the kid, so I'm not liking our chances. It seems like offensive lineman that can play in the SEC will be at an extreme premium.

KOdawg1
12-13-2021, 03:11 PM
The OT from FIU has like 30 Power 5 offers. I don't know his name, but I thought we had a shot and then I'm seeing Ohio State and half the SEC and Big 10 offer the kid, so I'm not liking our chances. It seems like offensive lineman that can play in the SEC will be at an extreme premium.

He's not talking about him, he's talking about the WR from FIU.

The OT is most definitely going somewhere else.

Bothrops
12-13-2021, 03:53 PM
Just don't blame the coaches fellas. They're getting them on campus. Either way we'll get whom we're supposed to get.

Apparently a good visit to Starkville wears off within 24 hrs.

TorpedoIPA
12-13-2021, 03:55 PM
The OT from FIU has like 30 Power 5 offers. I don't know his name, but I thought we had a shot and then I'm seeing Ohio State and half the SEC and Big 10 offer the kid, so I'm not liking our chances. It seems like offensive lineman that can play in the SEC will be at an extreme premium.

How did FIU get such a fine OT that everybody wants ?

ScoobaDawg
12-13-2021, 04:12 PM
In previous years on the first page of the recruiting thread there was a list that was edited full of our commits with links to their profiles. Would it be possible to go back to that format for future recruiting threads?

I did it maybe one or two years... took up a LOT of time trying to keep it updated. The person who starts the thread can edit the post.

TrapGame
12-13-2021, 04:15 PM
Why do y'all get worked up over a bunch of 18 year old kids?

I'd love to be nailing down top 15 classes every year but it's not going to happen for a myriad of reasons. Maybe, just maybe, if we get our heads out of our asses on the NIL deals we might have a reasonable shot at a top 15 class every few years but I'm not holding my breath.

bulldawg28
12-13-2021, 04:19 PM
Apparently a good visit to Starkville wears off within 24 hrs.

Lol, indeed

HoopsDawg
12-13-2021, 05:16 PM
Why do y'all get worked up over a bunch of 18 year old kids?

I'd love to be nailing down top 15 classes every year but it's not going to happen for a myriad of reasons. Maybe, just maybe, if we get our heads out of our asses on the NIL deals we might have a reasonable shot at a top 15 class every few years but I'm not holding my breath.

probably b/c the success or lack of is a direct result of how well you recruit.

TrapGame
12-13-2021, 05:23 PM
probably b/c the success or lack of is a direct result of how well you recruit.

These coaches are herding cats.

Leroy Jenkins
12-13-2021, 05:27 PM
These coaches are herding cats.

...and being extremely well compensated for it. So heard away MF'rs

HancockCountyDog
12-13-2021, 05:30 PM
probably b/c the success or lack of is a direct result of how well you recruit.

Yeah - if you can't complain about recruiting, you should never be allowed to complain during games. People bitch about a 4th down call in one game. Each recruiting cycle can affect dozens of games.

TorpedoIPA
12-13-2021, 06:29 PM
Yeah - if you can't complain about recruiting, you should never be allowed to complain during games. People bitch about a 4th down call in one game. Each recruiting cycle can affect dozens of games.

Years ago, I read a piece from Bobby Bowden where he said FSU's demise during the last of his tenure was, he thought, his obsession with recruiting stars. I think he meant he didn't evaluate on his own enough and relied on the gurus.

I still think Leach will get the best class he has had in his carreer in 2022.

Santiago
12-13-2021, 07:03 PM
AJ Allen- how do we look for him.

Cooterpoot
12-13-2021, 07:33 PM
AJ Allen- how do we look for him.

Reposting:
Ho Hum
Blanton pusses out because he's scared to fight for a spot. Imagine that! I tried to tell you he wasn't a big loss before. I'd take his stars but he's no difference maker.
Warned you, it's going to be fun til Feb. Just hang on. Don't get caught up in the BS and ebb and flow. Still got a shot to be around top 25. Still another surprise waiting.
Never get caught up in the overselling of things either. Sometimes you've got to simply use common sense (I know that's tough for a couple people)

HoopsDawg
12-13-2021, 07:38 PM
Reposting:
Ho Hum
Blanton pusses out because he's scared to fight for a spot. Imagine that! I tried to tell you he wasn't a big loss before. I'd take his stars but he's no difference maker.
Warned you, it's going to be fun til Feb. Just hang on. Don't get caught up in the BS and ebb and flow. Still got a shot to be around top 25. Still another surprise waiting.
Never get caught up in the overselling of things either. Sometimes you've got to simply use common sense (I know that's tough for a couple people)

The difference in being ranked 35th or 25th is a few emails from Paul and Steve to the guy above them. I look at who we are recruiting hard and are we signing them. I look at other offers. I used to look at film and talk to coaches. I don't do that much anymore. Now I look for opinons from posters I trust like IYOK but he's gone AWOL.

BuckyIsAB****
12-13-2021, 08:32 PM
I believe Blanton was told to get in or get out by both in state schools and they didnt like it.

BuckyIsAB****
12-13-2021, 08:35 PM
Guys, don't make sad excuses. We got beat. Don't talk down on his abilities because you weren't doing that when we thought we were getting him. Sounds like sour grapes.

Move on.

Any kid that plays in that league should be the absolute best player on the field and I did not see that in the two games I watched. That team from Tennessee skull dragged them I think the WR was better for them than he was. I am still surprised he is not coming here, but anyone who commits to one school for a sport then to another for a different one you know something aint right.

BuckyIsAB****
12-13-2021, 08:38 PM
It may be, but it is well understood that Kiffin has pissed off a large number of coaches in this state by his recruiting antics and flat out treating HC like crap. It catches up with you. Take a look at how many kids from Mississippi are going there. It will make a difference at some point and this is starting to get out in public.

Well in this case our staff read him the riot act too. We didnt ghost him but Leach is not going to play the games. Its why Strong went to LSU last year

Leroy Jenkins
12-13-2021, 08:58 PM
Well in this case our staff read him the riot act too. We didnt ghost him but Leach is not going to play the games. Its why Strong went to LSU last year

That can't be true Robbie Faulk said the staff would crawl to the fax machine to accept Blanton's commitment.*

MetEdDawg
12-13-2021, 09:15 PM
I guess I'm now expecting pain and suffering like usual on Wednesday.

Rogers doesn't seem to be happening, Lewis and Nicholson seem to be in doubt, and Williams is going to hear a lot from OM during this dead period.

Doubt Wednesday goes well unless someone has some info that is contrary to the rumor mill and what normally happens on an MSU signing day.

confucius say
12-13-2021, 10:00 PM
Any kid that plays in that league should be the absolute best player on the field and I did not see that in the two games I watched. That team from Tennessee skull dragged them I think the WR was better for them than he was. I am still surprised he is not coming here, but anyone who commits to one school for a sport then to another for a different one you know something aint right.

I told y'all two weeks ago that I watched every game he played this year. Most upside on the team no doubt, but he was not the most productive player on defense.

Saltydog
12-13-2021, 10:13 PM
Now that the ship has sailed on Blanton do we go after Zy Ford? He's smaller but looks faster than Blanton, at least on film. I saw him early in the year and wasn't awed by him but from what I've read he's got a blue collar mentality and that's the kind that have traditionally thrived at MSU. Any chance we go after him now?

BuckyIsAB****
12-13-2021, 10:32 PM
Now that the ship has sailed on Blanton do we go after Zy Ford? He's smaller but looks faster than Blanton, at least on film. I saw him early in the year and wasn't awed by him but from what I've read he's got a blue collar mentality and that's the kind that have traditionally thrived at MSU. Any chance we go after him now?

The best senior football player in the state this year is the Hartsog kid from JDC. He would make us better in every way. He is a faster Tylan Knight

preachermatt83
12-13-2021, 10:34 PM
The best senior football player in the state this year is the Hartsog kid from JDC. He would make us better in every way. He is a faster Tylan Knight

He is very similar to tulu griffin

HoopsDawg
12-13-2021, 11:16 PM
The best senior football player in the state this year is the Hartsog kid from JDC. He would make us better in every way. He is a faster Tylan Knight

That's not a great endorsement.

HancockCountyDog
12-13-2021, 11:18 PM
The best senior football player in the state this year is the Hartsog kid from JDC. He would make us better in every way. He is a faster Tylan Knight

Looks like he just committed Nebraska.

BeardoMSU
12-13-2021, 11:58 PM
Looks like he just committed Nebraska.

Well...Godspeed going 3-9 next season, lol.

Irondawg
12-14-2021, 12:25 AM
So what was the ultimate deal with K. Rodgers? All along it was said that Manny was the tie to Miami based on his relationship with the family. No Manny and the kid still wants to go to the U apparently.

Other than the lure of the city anybody else know anything?

I know you can't cry over what you never had in the first place, but seemed that one was trending out way until yesterday.

Irondawg
12-14-2021, 12:26 AM
On the Hartzog kid - seems worth taking a chance on given the news of the day, but seems the staff just is not interested in him. I know he camped at State so they must have not been impressed.

bulldawg28
12-14-2021, 01:55 AM
Reposting:
Ho Hum
Blanton pusses out because he's scared to fight for a spot. Imagine that! I tried to tell you he wasn't a big loss before. I'd take his stars but he's no difference maker.
Warned you, it's going to be fun til Feb. Just hang on. Don't get caught up in the BS and ebb and flow. Still got a shot to be around top 25. Still another surprise waiting.
Never get caught up in the overselling of things either. Sometimes you've got to simply use common sense (I know that's tough for a couple people)

Mannn just stop it. You've been whiffing since last week on these recruits. It's a crap shoot and your just guessing right now. It makes for good entertainment but you're selling wolf tickets right now and spinning like a politician.

Cowbell
12-14-2021, 10:28 AM
Talk about dead period / this thread is like Deja Vu from years prior

shrimp
12-14-2021, 11:08 AM
Commercecomet24, how you feeling about Nicholson today?

Dawgology
12-14-2021, 11:09 AM
Never saw it coming**

I mean really it’s every year about 2 weeks out they try to toe everyone up just for the same stuff to happen. With that said can you imagine being so scared or inferior that you would pay a recruit to NOT go to a school. That’s insane right?

HancockCountyDog
12-14-2021, 11:55 AM
How many do we sign tomorrow?

We are 16 commits, Steve says Moss and Jordan most likely won't sign tomorrow - so that puts us at 14;

Ramsey
Sledge
Trevion

Seem to be in the boat.

Decarlos
Dinkins
Percy Lewis

Seem 50/50 or better

I'm guessing we won't sign more than 22 tomorrow, so who am I missing?

Turfdawg67
12-14-2021, 12:18 PM
https://twitter.com/Thee_Matty_D/status/1469386749201760256?s=20

So what became of this??

Leroy Jenkins
12-14-2021, 12:48 PM
I'm guessing we won't sign more than 22 tomorrow, so who am I missing?


Transfer DB's.

HancockCountyDog
12-14-2021, 01:01 PM
Transfer DB's.

Names?

Commercecomet24
12-14-2021, 01:51 PM
Commercecomet24, how you feeling about Nicholson today?

I know what my heart wants. This is a complicated situation. I wish one of my other "sons" all the best wherever he goes. I hope it's maroon and white.

bulldawg28
12-14-2021, 02:26 PM
So what became of this??

Nothing became of it.

Cooterpoot
12-14-2021, 03:54 PM
Now that the ship has sailed on Blanton do we go after Zy Ford? He's smaller but looks faster than Blanton, at least on film. I saw him early in the year and wasn't awed by him but from what I've read he's got a blue collar mentality and that's the kind that have traditionally thrived at MSU. Any chance we go after him now?

Jeez...the guy isn't an SEC football player. He's not even P5. Let that crazy talk die unless he wants to walk on.

Cooterpoot
12-14-2021, 03:55 PM
Mannn just stop it. You've been whiffing since last week on these recruits. It's a crap shoot and your just guessing right now. It makes for good entertainment but you're selling wolf tickets right now and spinning like a politician.

I missed one guy. One guy that was committed to us. But by all means, continue with your persistent, miserable bitching please.

bulldawg28
12-14-2021, 04:32 PM
I missed one guy. One guy that was committed to us. But by all means, continue with your persistent, miserable bitching please.

You've never said who any of the guys are so I wouldn't know whomever they are. I'm only stating 3 days ago it was all good with everyone. I personally don't care about recruiting I've lived it and know sources are purely guessing. Kids will tell you whatever when they're in front of you. I honestly prefer the portal over high school recruiting.

Big4Dawg
12-14-2021, 04:40 PM
How many do we sign tomorrow?

We are 16 commits, Steve says Moss and Jordan most likely won't sign tomorrow - so that puts us at 14;

Ramsey
Sledge
Trevion

Seem to be in the boat.

Decarlos
Dinkins
Percy Lewis

Seem 50/50 or better

I'm guessing we won't sign more than 22 tomorrow, so who am I missing?

Most Likely In:
Trevion Williams - 4* DL (https://247sports.com/Player/Trevion-Williams-46109228/) - State or OM
Percy Lewis - JUCO 4* OL (https://247sports.com/Player/Percy-Lewis-46110457/) - State or OM
DeCarlos Nicholson - 3* CB (https://247sports.com/Player/Percy-Lewis-46110457/) - State or Kentucky
Trent Ramsey - 3* OL (https://247sports.com/Player/Trent-Ramsey-46083502/) - State or Cal
Avery Sledge - 3* LB (https://247sports.com/Player/Avery-Sledge-46118341/) - State or Tulane
Kalvin Dinkins - 3* DL (https://247sports.com/Player/Kalvin-Dinkins-46114695/) - State or unsigned
Tyrese Chambers - FIU WR (https://247sports.com/Player/Tyrese-Chambers-46042125/)

Maybe:
Marcus Banks - Bama CB (https://247sports.com/Player/Marcus-Banks-46041877/) - State or Miami
Ajay Allen - 4* RB (https://247sports.com/Player/Ajay-Allen-46118313/) - Currently TCU commit, State or TCU
Jacarius Clayton - 3* DL (https://247sports.com/Player/Jacarius-Clayton-46085239/) - Currently OM commit, State or OM

Hambone
12-14-2021, 05:01 PM
I missed one guy. One guy that was committed to us. But by all means, continue with your persistent, miserable bitching please.

To be fair, we may not know the Cooter secret sign language.

Yancy would post the glasses when he knew someone was about to commit.

MetEdDawg
12-14-2021, 05:33 PM
Can anyone give a preview of what they think happens tomorrow?

RezDog7
12-14-2021, 05:40 PM
Can anyone give a preview of what they think happens tomorrow?

We will sign some kids and some posters will bitch because we didn't sign all of them.

TNDawg35
12-14-2021, 05:40 PM
Can anyone give a preview of what they think happens tomorrow?

Half will be pissed calling for Leach to be fired, some will be saying it’s Cohens fault and wanting him fired, some will be ok and understand the process, some just won’t give a ****, and the rest of us will go about our day by trying to kill a duck…

Miss anyone?

Captain Falcon
12-14-2021, 05:41 PM
Can anyone give a preview of what they think happens tomorrow?

If we get the two big JUCO names we are pursuing (Lewis and Nicholson) it sounds like it could be a very positive day for us.

FriarsPoint
12-14-2021, 05:45 PM
Half will be pissed calling for Leach to be fired, some will be saying it’s Cohens fault and wanting him fired, some will be ok and understand the process, some just won’t give a ****, and the rest of us will go about our day by trying to kill a duck…

Miss anyone?

On a different subject, screw DU. Took all our money in the 70’s and 80’s and kept the ducks. F them.

Lord McBuckethead
12-14-2021, 06:08 PM
Here is to all the young athletes making a huge decision tomorrow. Go with your gut. NIL is going to available everywhere you sign. Don?t make the decision based purely on money. Bet on yourself, keep your nose down, handle your business, grow everyday. Tomorrow is the next stage of that growth. MSU is the best decision I ever made. Imagine if I was the guy who decided to stay home and play for his team and led us to a new era of football. Champion for life. That is what MSU could be.

preachermatt83
12-14-2021, 06:42 PM
Here is to all the young athletes making a huge decision tomorrow. Go with your gut. NIL is going to available everywhere you sign. Don?t make the decision based purely on money. Bet on yourself, keep your nose down, handle your business, grow everyday. Tomorrow is the next stage of that growth. MSU is the best decision I ever made. Imagine if I was the guy who decided to stay home and play for his team and led us to a new era of football. Champion for life. That is what MSU could be.

Very good post

BuckyIsAB****
12-14-2021, 07:22 PM
That's not a great endorsement.

If you wouldnt take Tylan Knight you either dont know him or havent watched him. He is a ball player and a great kid. And that is coming from someone who hates Purl and Ole Miss with every fiber of my being.

He pretty much won them the game, if you call it that last year with the fumble at the goaline.

Hartsog is a winner and we should be on him if we are not. He would be a great fit here he us our type of kid

Cowbell
12-14-2021, 07:43 PM
I am just here to sell popcorn for the next 24 hours.
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Hambone
12-14-2021, 08:08 PM
You’d probably make more money if you sold anti-depressants and pepto bismal.

Saltydog
12-14-2021, 08:26 PM
Can anyone give a preview of what they think happens tomorrow?

We'll finish in the bottom 3 of the league.......The more things change, the more they stay the same.......

Cowbell
12-14-2021, 09:42 PM
Missouri, South Carolina, and Kentucky all currently ahead of us in terms of average and overall ratings

Tripp McNeely
12-14-2021, 10:06 PM
Missouri, South Carolina, and Kentucky all currently ahead of us in terms of average and overall ratings

They're also ahead of us in total commits, which is what really matters in team rankings the day BEFORE signing day!

Dawgology
12-14-2021, 10:34 PM
But they are behind us in wins so…

TNDawg35
12-14-2021, 11:16 PM
I am just here to sell popcorn for the next 24 hours.
** disclaimer: My popcorn does not have any magical healing powers or weight reduction powers (don't ban me). But it does cure the munchies in case you are one of Tusks customers...

Popcorn34....

Ari Gold
12-14-2021, 11:22 PM
If things go as planned tomorrow
We will have flipped commits from
FSU
OM
Oregon
Kentucky
Va Tech

Not to shabby

Commercecomet24
12-14-2021, 11:26 PM
Half will be pissed calling for Leach to be fired, some will be saying it’s Cohens fault and wanting him fired, some will be ok and understand the process, some just won’t give a ****, and the rest of us will go about our day by trying to kill a duck…

Miss anyone?

Yep just like every year. You nailed it.

Dak Holliday
12-14-2021, 11:48 PM
If you wouldnt take Tylan Knight you either dont know him or havent watched him. He is a ball player and a great kid. And that is coming from someone who hates Purl and Ole Miss with every fiber of my being.

He pretty much won them the game, if you call it that last year with the fumble at the goaline.

Hartsog is a winner and we should be on him if we are not. He would be a great fit here he us our type of kid

Agree. Tylan Knight is the type of player and young man all fathers should hope their children grow up to be like. Anyone disparaging him is misinformed or ignorant of the quality of his character or ability. It?s a shame that we didn?t pursue him.

bobcat91
12-14-2021, 11:48 PM
If things go as planned tomorrow
We will have flipped commits from
FSU
OM
Oregon
Kentucky
Va Tech

Not to shabby

Add TCU

Bdawg
12-15-2021, 12:06 AM
Good luck tomorrow coaches and players. Whoever we get wanted to be a dawg and I will take it(because I have to). Hope we have a good day tomorrow! I'm ready something a little different than norm on signing day.

preachermatt83
12-15-2021, 01:11 AM
Add TCU

Yup!

SmokeyDawg
12-15-2021, 01:16 AM
If things go as planned tomorrow
We will have flipped commits from
FSU
OM
Oregon
Kentucky
Va Tech

Not to shabby

Add LSU

preachermatt83
12-15-2021, 02:06 AM
Add LSU

Who ?

SmokeyDawg
12-15-2021, 02:25 AM
Who ?
OL Taylor

preachermatt83
12-15-2021, 04:21 AM
OL Taylor

Oh yea. From down on the coast. I forgot he was committed to them at one time

KOdawg1
12-15-2021, 07:11 AM
Ramsey is headed to Cal.

Another battle lost to a school we shouldn't be losing battles to.

Captain Falcon
12-15-2021, 08:09 AM
Ramsey is headed to Cal.

Another battle lost to a school we shouldn't be losing battles to.

Two thoughts on that kid:

1. He pretty clearly values academics because he was linked with Vandy, Virginia, and now Cal at certain points.

2. This one feels a little like Blanton in that we were the presumed favorite for a while but the longer this dragged out, the longer it felt like we were just a fallback option for him.

As long as we sign Lewis I feel like we can figure out the last OL spot and be fine. Ramsey is someone we wanted but not remotely irreplaceable.

HancockCountyDog
12-15-2021, 08:34 AM
Ramsey is headed to Cal.

Another battle lost to a school we shouldn't be losing battles to.

Wow, that was not expected.

William Tecumsah Sherman
12-15-2021, 08:53 AM
He has mentioned Cal in previous interviews. Even said it was his dream school previously. When they offered, it was over

Turfdawg67
12-15-2021, 09:00 AM
Rogers-50%
Ramsey-99%
Dinkins- 60%
Nicholson-75%
Williams-99%
Blanton-99%
Lewis-99%
Banks-50%
LaHue-100%

You rated Ramsey and Blanton as 99% certain to sign with State? Lolz.

BeardoMSU
12-15-2021, 09:07 AM
You rated Ramsey and Blanton as 99% certain to sign with State? Lolz.

https://y.yarn.co/c6a51080-712d-4cb1-b6c4-f90013ff3bd4_text.gif

Dawgology
12-15-2021, 09:18 AM
Wow, that was not expected.

Really? Our “recruiting program” knows how to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory every time. Count. No. One. Until they sign on the dotted line. With the transfer portal signing day doesn’t mean much anymore anyway.

Cowbell
12-15-2021, 09:46 AM
Really? Our ?recruiting program? knows how to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory every time. Count. No. One. Until they sign on the dotted line. With the transfer portal signing day doesn?t mean much anymore anyway.

Yep there will be kids getting out of there letter tomorrow after getting a better offer or having buyers remorse

confucius say
12-15-2021, 09:51 AM
Are we fixing to flip 6 kids from P5 schools?

PMDawg
12-15-2021, 10:22 AM
Are we fixing to flip 6 kids from P5 schools?

I'll be less surprised if we flip 6 kids from G5 schools.

confucius say
12-15-2021, 10:42 AM
I'll be less surprised if we flip 6 kids from G5 schools.

Williams. FSU.
Dortch. Mississippi.
Lewis. Oregon.
Nicholson. KY.
Lahue. VT.
Taylor. LSU.
Allen. TCU.

Feel like we could get 6 of those.

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 10:51 AM
Williams. FSU.
Dortch. Mississippi.
Lewis. Oregon.
Nicholson. KY.
Lahue. VT.
Taylor. LSU.
Allen. TCU.

Feel like we could get 6 of those.

We may get Decarlos yet. It's close, real close.

confucius say
12-15-2021, 10:53 AM
We may get Decarlos yet. It's close, real close.

What time does he sign?

shrimp
12-15-2021, 10:57 AM
Cal offered months ago, before we offered. He grew up in Arizona and just recently moved to Tampa. We were in catch up mode the whole time. Now, I felt good about him and thought we were going to get him, but Cal didn’t come out of nowhere.


He has mentioned Cal in previous interviews. Even said it was his dream school previously. When they offered, it was over

KOdawg1
12-15-2021, 11:02 AM
What time does he sign?

10

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 11:04 AM
DC is A DAWG!

KOdawg1
12-15-2021, 11:05 AM
Decarlos to STATE

shrimp
12-15-2021, 11:05 AM
Awesome news!! Know you’re excited.


DC is A DAWG!

Catfish
12-15-2021, 11:06 AM
Well done!

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 11:07 AM
Our coaches did a great job with Decarlos! They overcame a huge obstacle to get him. Everyone needs to stop bitching that our staff can't recruit. This took some doing? HAILSTATE!

BeardoMSU
12-15-2021, 11:07 AM
Our coaches did a great job with Decarlos! They overcame a huge obstacle to get him. Everyone needs to stop bitching that our staff can't recruit. This took some doing? HAILSTATE!

Awesome!

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 11:08 AM
Awesome news!! Know you’re excited.

Man I'm beaming! I knew what we had to overcome to get him and it got done!

BayouDawg
12-15-2021, 11:12 AM
When is Lewis expected to sign?

Turfdawg67
12-15-2021, 11:13 AM
DC is A DAWG!

Awesome news!!

HancockCountyDog
12-15-2021, 11:14 AM
Decarlos to STATE

Just great news

confucius say
12-15-2021, 11:16 AM
Did Nicholson actually sign or just commit?

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 11:16 AM
Lewis is next

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 11:17 AM
Did Nicholson actually sign or just commit?

Signed done deal! Ringing that cowbell at his signing!

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
12-15-2021, 11:19 AM
Signed done deal! Ringing that cowbell at his signing!

You seem to be one of the most genuine people on here. Congrats to you and welcome aboard DC!!

Catfish
12-15-2021, 11:20 AM
You seem to be one of the most genuine people on here. Congrats to you and welcome aboard DC!!
Amen!

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 11:20 AM
Y'all can thank Leach, Arnett, Jaden Walley and KJ Wright for winning with Decarlos! I can't reiterate enough how hard leach and staff worked for this one! And my son worked Decarlos pretty hard too!

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 11:22 AM
You seem to be one of the most genuine people on here. Congrats to you and welcome aboard DC!!

Thank you for that! I try to live my life that way.

HoopsDawg
12-15-2021, 11:27 AM
Y'all can thank Leach, Arnett, Jaden Walley and KJ Wright for winning with Decarlos! I can't reiterate enough how hard leach and staff worked for this one! And my son worked Decarlos pretty hard too!

Was McBath heavily involved?