2022 MSU FOOTBALL RECRUITING Discussion Thread

[bulldawg28]

I told yall when we got him Nicholson would be tough to keep. He is a NFL corner.

We did all we could to get him. The Greenville Christian kids are no slouch either. Tough get after your ass kids

To say he's an NFL corner is a stretch. He's never played 1 down at corner in juco. He's being recruited on measurables and athletism. Time will tell if he's a legit corner or not. It takes more than measurables to perform there constantly.

[shrimp]

Hearing he may have a hard time qualifying. You hearing anything along those lines?


I hear we are in good shape with the Hurst kid from Gautier. I rarely get decent recruiting info, but it is what I'm being told by people that should know.

[trob115]

Hearing he may have a hard time qualifying. You hearing anything along those lines?

He very well may have a difficult time qualifying.

However, normally those rumors are put out by ole miss folks who realize they don't lead for a recruit and try to cover themselves that way, I instead of the kid not actually wanting to go to ole miss. You know, perceived image is all that matters up there.

[Doggie_Style]

Hearing he may have a hard time qualifying. You hearing anything along those lines?

well that's sad

[shrimp]

I don’t talk to Ole Miss folks, so this didn’t come from them. Came from a neutral fan on the Coast.


He very well may have a difficult time qualifying.

However, normally those rumors are put out by ole miss folks who realize they don't lead for a recruit and try to cover themselves that way, I instead of the kid not actually wanting to go to ole miss. You know, perceived image is all that matters up there.

[Madisonmd]

I don?t talk to Ole Miss folks, so this didn?t come from them. Came from a neutral fan on the Coast.

Does not the ACC have easier JUCO transfer rules than the SEC? I thought I remembered the SEC tightening up those in recent past?

[HancockCountyDog]

Hearing he may have a hard time qualifying. You hearing anything along those lines?

I have not.

Rule of thumb is that if a MSU fan is telling you he may not qualify, then he is committing to the bears. If a confederate is telling you he isn?t qualifying then we got him.

[Westdawg]

Saw film of a LB out of Atlanta that might deserve a little attention.

Dialo Mosley - LB 6?2 215

#11 on film.

https://twitter.com/southernswagg4/status/1428721167515496448?s=21

[TALL DAWG]

Saw film of a LB out of Atlanta that might deserve a little attention.

Dialo Mosley - LB 6?2 215

#11 on film.

https://twitter.com/southernswagg4/status/1428721167515496448?s=21

Has this thread been locked?
Nothing new on here in over 2 weeks?

Anything new on Xavier Harris from Germantown? I know he committed to the Webels back in the summer but there?s 3+ mths until signing day.
Us having John Lewis (who played at Germantown) should help our chances of a flip.

[vv83]

This staff doesn?t seem to care much for recruiting. Imagine it?ll stay pretty dead on here

[Bothrops]

I understand the concern, but I hope this staff is focused on winning this weekend.

[BrunswickDawg]

I understand the concern, but I hope this staff is focused on winning this weekend.

https://twitter.com/daveemerickmsu/status/1435602181973897217?s=21

Sounds like we have recruits visiting this weekend too.

[Hambone]

https://twitter.com/quenteljones/status/1435770577894117378?s=21

Here’s one of the guys on campus this weekend. Big Boy!

[Maverick91]

Any news from this weekend?

[ShotgunDawg]

Any news from this weekend?

Not that I've heard. Football recruiting is dead at MSU

I've never seen us go through such a lack of momentum on the recruiting trail & that includes when Croom was here

[HancockCountyDog]

Not that I've heard. Football recruiting is dead at MSU

I've never seen us go through such a lack of momentum on the recruiting trail & that includes when Croom was here

Underrated fact - go back and look at Mullen's first class at MSU (after being hired) and see how many NFL guys Croom had committed in that class, and it would surprise the hell out of you. It did me.

Cam Lawrence
Banks
Cox
Whitley
Boyd
Skinner
McPhee
Gabe Jackson

Had all committed to MSU under Croom. Also laid ground work for Chris White and Perkins.

In fact the kids that Mullen added late, didn't really do much except for Bumphis.

My hope is that we are making great evaluations, because we certainly are not going to be involved in many recruiting battles if things hold.

[ShotgunDawg]

Underrated fact - go back and look at Mullen's first class at MSU (after being hired) and see how many NFL guys Croom had committed in that class, and it would surprise the hell out of you. It did me.

Cam Lawrence
Banks
Cox
Whitley
Boyd
Skinner
McPhee
Gabe Jackson

Had all committed to MSU under Croom. Also laid ground work for Chris White and Perkins.

In fact the kids that Mullen added late, didn't really do much except for Bumphis.

My hope is that we are making great evaluations, because we certainly are not going to be involved in many recruiting battles if things hold.

Croom's problem was not recruiting comparative to his coaching ability. Mullen took over some talent

[Maverick91]

Yeah, it's really annoying. It would be great just to hear some noise.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

He probably saw UK atmosphere vs our empty seats *****

[bulldawg28]

Not that I've heard. Football recruiting is dead at MSU

I've never seen us go through such a lack of momentum on the recruiting trail & that includes when Croom was here

Stop your lies

[ShotgunDawg]

Stop your lies

Please provide evidence to the contrary

[bulldawg28]

Please provide evidence to the contrary

Of your bipolarism?

[vv83]

Stop your lies

Um he?s right. It?s absolutely dead. What are you talking about

[Hambone]

Unless y’all are in the office and hear what’s going on you have no idea what you’re talking about.

To say recruiting is dead is just dumb. We are fixing to get one maybe two commits in the next two weeks.

[Tripp McNeely]

Unless y’all are in the office and hear what’s going on you have no idea what you’re talking about.

To say recruiting is dead is just dumb. We are fixing to get one maybe two commits in the next two weeks.

Exactly?to say recruiting is dead is completely ignorant of the process. We only have 4-5 spots (at most?plus a healthy dose of the transfer portal) left. This class is 80% locked down already. The coaches are gonna be VERY selective with those last few spots

[vv83]

You guys are delusional. We dont have a single 4star committed and have had 2 de commitments over this summer. I swear you all would be content if we filled those last 4-5 spots with 86 ranked guys. And please don?t reply with stars don?t matter or how all our guys are 4stars if they were committed somewhere else

[bulldawg28]

You guys are delusional. We dont have a single 4star committed and have had 2 de commitments over this summer. I swear you all would be content if we filled those last 4-5 spots with 86 ranked guys. And please don?t reply with stars don?t matter or how all our guys are 4stars if they were committed somewhere else

Stars are rigged and like was spoken earlier this class is almost full. It's impossible to have commits weekly or monthly.

[Hambone]

There was a video posted I think it was on here where a coach sat down and discussed these rankings. Told personal stories of getting his recruits assigned 4 and 5 stars just to make the players happy.

Also, we had multiple 4 stars on the commit list, however after 24/7 added the ESPN recruiting rankings (ESPN has TWO recruiting analysts) they were all dropped to a 3 star.

Sky is not falling.

[Bothrops]

And please don?t reply with stars don?t matter or how all our guys are 4stars if they were committed somewhere else

Not all of them, but a few would be.

[KOdawg1]

Stop your lies
I don't agree with a lot of what he says, but he ain't lying here. We're in a slump and in a bad one

[Irondawg]

So was Nicholson indeed a business decision or did we just flat our get outrecruited on him despite the in-state advantage. Surely our business offerings match KY football - we're not talking Auburn or LSU here.

Again - he may prove to have zero natural feel for CB but it's a headscratching loss this early. This staff has done mostly well with Plan Bs except at DB. But right now I think we need to get a feel who might be impact players as there are some solid guys out there but nobody that just flashes right now. Of course you could say the same about guys like RaRa last year as I sure didn't think he'd be the freshman WR to crack the rotation first.

[Maverick91]

Stars don't matter, as the video that was posted really does point to the almost blatant politicization of recruiting. But, they do matter at the same token. Non of us think that Saban would be Saban without the recruiting classes that he brings in. I think he would be good, but, they would have like 4 less NC than they do right now.

I agree we need to be picky, we don't have a lot of room left, but, it is disconcerting seeing the "lower level" talent that we seem to be bringing in. It looks like we are really going to have to trust they our coaching staff can grade players better than the recruiting services. Which I would hedge a bet on that to some extent.

[BrunswickDawg]

A couple of things to remember - High School season has started, so we are really down to kids that want official visits and "love" and want to play the recruiting game. If they are being recruited by multiple P5's right now they aren't committing until at least the early signing period. It is a naturally slow period and everyone else is the same way. Our last commit was 8/25. Bama hasn't had a commit since the end of July; Arkansas hasn't since 8/10; Auburn since 8/19; UF had 1 last week, but only 1 other since mid July; Georgia since 8/12; UK has had 2 since July; LSU none since July; Mizzou 3 since July; OM 2 since July; Sc 1 since July; UT 2 since July; A&M none since mid August; Vandy 2 since July

[Ifyouonlyknew]

A few things

1. Comparing this recruiting class to Croom is just laughable. We basically have 16 kids committed. Out of those 16, 14 have either multiple SEC &/or at least 5 P5 offers. Let's stop with the hyperbole.

2. We are in a little bit of a lull in recruiting right now but that happens every single year during the season. Look back at the last 5 recruiting classes we've never had many commits happen during the season. '21 - 2 '20 - 1 '19 - 3 '18 - 3 '17 - 0.

3. This class isn't bad. What this class lacks is a headliner. We don't have crown jewel where we can beat our chest & say that's our guy. Will we get 1 by signing day who knows but that's what's missing in this class. It has several SEC caliber players in it.

4. Finally stars matter they always have & always will. It is somewhat a chicken & egg thing. Does a kid get stars based off his offers or does the kid get offers based off his stars? If Saban, Dabo, Kirby, & others are offering you then you should be rated high. They can get the best of the best in the country & they're after you so I'm fine with the "Bama Bump". If anyone has earned that it's Saban. The problem is after the top 100-200 or so kids it's all subjective & personal opinion. That's why the top rated kids are all pretty much the same across the board on every site but then the rest can vary so much based off which site likes which kid more.

[ShotgunDawg]

Is this going to give LSU room to offer the Louisiana WR we're after?

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1437825953330307079?s=20

[HancockCountyDog]

This is just going to hurt us even more. So when Bama encourages kids to go into the portal - they will sign 32 four and five star kids, and then a year later encourage more kids to hit the portal and sign 32 more four and five star kids.

This only helps the elite. Sure it may help us some, but just because we can sign someone, doesn't always mean we should.

[ShotgunDawg]

This is just going to hurt us even more. So when Bama encourages kids to go into the portal - they will sign 32 four and five star kids, and then a year later encourage more kids to hit the portal and sign 32 more four and five star kids.

This only helps the elite. Sure it may help us some, but just because we can sign someone, doesn't always mean we should.

Helps us on numbers but will hurt on quality.

[HancockCountyDog]

Helps us on numbers but will hurt on quality.

Yeah - but we don't push kids to the portal - and we still have the 85 number to deal with. If you bring in 32 kids in a year, that can hamstring you for the following year. It also go against who we are - a developmental program that can be successful at a high level if we recruit the right type of kid that can be an NFL player with development and time.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I think it helps a lot.

[ShotgunDawg]

I think it helps a lot.

What do you think we'll do to make it help?

Does it hurt us with Zavion?

[Maverick91]

Yeah - but we don't push kids to the portal - and we still have the 85 number to deal with. If you bring in 32 kids in a year, that can hamstring you for the following year. It also go against who we are - a developmental program that can be successful at a high level if we recruit the right type of kid that can be an NFL player with development and time.

I hate this thought process! No, offense! I cringed every time I heard a Mullen staffer say this, I feel like it is such a easy way to settle and not push ourselves to higher heights. You would NEVER hear a top tier program talk about being a "developmental program" that would be so insulting to the Saban's of the world. It puts us in the group of "we can never get guys in here that are just ready to play day 1. " I think its fine to tell recruits that we will be the best program at developing you. But, to label us a "developmental program" from this standpoint needs to stop.

[Todd4State]

I think it helps a lot.

I'm interested to see what we do with those extra spots. I think this will allow us to take some more WR's and DB's for sure. At least that's what I would do if I were in their shoes barring someone that's basically instant impact at another position. And when I say more I mean 1-2 more WR's and DB's than we originally planned. Which would still leave us three spots for another OL prospect and transfers.

[Bothrops]

Helps us on numbers but will hurt on quality.

This would only help us if the rules weren't changing for the elites. In other words, MORE TALENT HOARDED BY THE ELITES. Not to mention more talent getting washed out by them. College football isn't about to make changes that benefit non elite programs, that's counterintuitive to tv revenue.

[Dawgfan77]

I think it helps us get more of those kids that would play for us but sign with Bama. I for one look at this as another juco. Kid signs with UGA, by sophomore year barely sees the field we can now offer him. He comes in with the benefit of having 2 years in a college weight program

[Irondawg]

Impact here is to be determined - so far the portal has worked to our advantage

[Todd4State]

I think it helps us get more of those kids that would play for us but sign with Bama. I for one look at this as another juco. Kid signs with UGA, by sophomore year barely sees the field we can now offer him. He comes in with the benefit of having 2 years in a college weight program

Exactly. And it makes our recruiting ranking even more worthless. We added two former four star Army All Americans in the off-season through the portal alone.

[Offshore Dawg]

This would only help us if the rules weren't changing for the elites. In other words, MORE TALENT HOARDED BY THE ELITES. Not to mention more talent getting washed out by them. College football isn't about to make changes that benefit non elite programs, that's counterintuitive to tv revenue.

This is the bottom line

[Commercecomet24]

A few things

1. Comparing this recruiting class to Croom is just laughable. We basically have 16 kids committed. Out of those 16, 14 have either multiple SEC &/or at least 5 P5 offers. Let's stop with the hyperbole.

2. We are in a little bit of a lull in recruiting right now but that happens every single year during the season. Look back at the last 5 recruiting classes we've never had many commits happen during the season. '21 - 2 '20 - 1 '19 - 3 '18 - 3 '17 - 0.

3. This class isn't bad. What this class lacks is a headliner. We don't have crown jewel where we can beat our chest & say that's our guy. Will we get 1 by signing day who knows but that's what's missing in this class. It has several SEC caliber players in it.

4. Finally stars matter they always have & always will. It is somewhat a chicken & egg thing. Does a kid get stars based off his offers or does the kid get offers based off his stars? If Saban, Dabo, Kirby, & others are offering you then you should be rated high. They can get the best of the best in the country & they're after you so I'm fine with the "Bama Bump". If anyone has earned that it's Saban. The problem is after the top 100-200 or so kids it's all subjective & personal opinion. That's why the top rated kids are all pretty much the same across the board on every site but then the rest can vary so much based off which site likes which kid more.

Wow a rational, well thought out post!

Rep!

[BuckyIsAB****]

I have seen a lot more no stars pan out than I have sure fire 5 stars. Just my personal experience. We have ruined these kids with our obsession with this. The RB from Germantown has already made a business decision is what the word is

[vv83]

I have seen a lot more no stars pan out than I have sure fire 5 stars. Just my personal experience. We have ruined these kids with our obsession with this. The RB from Germantown has already made a business decision is what the word is

To be fair there are infinitely more no stars than 5. I think something like 30% of 5 stars go in the first 2 rounds of the draft which is insane.

[KOdawg1]

I have seen a lot more no stars pan out than I have sure fire 5 stars.

Well there's thousands of no stars each year and only about 30 5 stars. Of course, there's going to be more that pan out because the pool you're choosing from is bigger. If you crunch the numbers, the % of 5 stars that pan out would be much higher.

[HancockCountyDog]

I have seen a lot more no stars pan out than I have sure fire 5 stars. Just my personal experience. We have ruined these kids with our obsession with this. The RB from Germantown has already made a business decision is what the word is

Well to be fair - usually there are only about 20-25 five stars nationally every year, and roughly 500-1000 kids with 3 stars or less that sign with P5 programs. The fact 20 3 stars pan out better than 10 of the five stars isn't really moving the needle.

Are we good with the kid from MRA? I know he visited the bears this past weekend according to twitter, I'm just assuming he is enjoying the process.

[Homedawg]

I have seen a lot more no stars pan out than I have sure fire 5 stars. Just my personal experience. We have ruined these kids with our obsession with this. The RB from Germantown has already made a business decision is what the word is

What kind of logic is this?? Of course. There are 25/50 five stars depending on site. Of course there are going to be more low stars pan out. You're a smart guy. You can surely do the math. Just like the nfl draft. More 3 stars are seated than anything. Makes sense. But a huge percentage of nfl first rounders are 5 stars then 4 etc. there is a correlation

[Homedawg]

Well to be fair - usually there are only about 20-25 five stars nationally every year, and roughly 500-1000 kids with 3 stars or less that sign with P5 programs. The fact 20 3 stars pan out better than 10 of the five stars isn't really moving the needle.

Are we good with the kid from MRA? I know he visited the bears this past weekend according to twitter, I'm just assuming he is enjoying the process.

It's a hell of a lot closer on Blanton than people want to make you believe.....

[Hambone]

Also, can we read anything on Joheim Otis being on campus as much as he’s been?

[Dawgology]

It's a hell of a lot closer on Blanton than people want to make you believe.....

It doesn?t matter. Again, the white flag has been raised on the football program. The administration doesn?t care and the money boosters (the few we have) don?t care. It?s all about baseball now. Football recruiting no longer matters.

[Homedawg]

It doesn?t matter. Again, the white flag has been raised on the football program. The administration doesn?t care and the money boosters (the few we have) don?t care. It?s all about baseball now. Football recruiting no longer matters.

The boosters we have still care. And this one is on the staff not the boosters should we have an epic fail.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

The boosters we have still care. And this one is on the staff not the boosters should we have an epic fail.

Truth! This should've been closed out back in January or February.

[KOdawg1]

The boosters we have still care. And this one is on the staff not the boosters should we have an epic fail.
Correct. The staff slow played him early and now it could potentially bite us in the ass. This was an easy layup that we've completely botched.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

That is Unbelievable. The program needs a win this weekend and a Blanton commitment in the worst way

[Todd4State]

It doesn?t matter. Again, the white flag has been raised on the football program. The administration doesn?t care and the money boosters (the few we have) don?t care. It?s all about baseball now. Football recruiting no longer matters.

Good thing he is a baseball recruit.**

[SilentSteel16]

Yeah but Blanton has been very open saying that football is first because football is what is giving him scholarship money. So don’t just lean on baseball being the pull. I think the football coaches may have relaxed too much with him too early just thinking baseball had him, hope he sticks with us but I won’t be surprised at all to see him in blue and red.

[msugolf]

Truth! This should've been closed out back in January or February.

The more stuff I hear about this staff, the more I think they just wanna coast and be comfortable. I'm sure the pro-Leach crowd will start touting "Leach likes to get the under the radar kids. He does more with less. Etc."

It should be required reading for everyone to go read the article from a few years ago about Leach and his QBs. It might be a pay article on the Athletic now, but it basically says there's very little teaching about his offensive system and that its one of the smallest playbooks they'd ever seen. You basically have to teach yourself how to run an offense and call plays as the QB. So its no wonder that some highly rated recruits, like Sawyer, have a hard time picking up this offense because its not really one where you are going to get taught anything.

But back to recruiting. I'm so ready for us to get a HC and staff that absolutely wants to kill it on the recruiting trail and not just half-ass things.

[Homedawg]

The more stuff I hear about this staff, the more I think they just wanna coast and be comfortable. I'm sure the pro-Leach crowd will start touting "Leach likes to get the under the radar kids. He does more with less. Etc."

It should be required reading for everyone to go read the article from a few years ago about Leach and his QBs. It might be a pay article on the Athletic now, but it basically says there's very little teaching about his offensive system and that its one of the smallest playbooks they'd ever seen. You basically have to teach yourself how to run an offense and call plays as the QB. So its no wonder that some highly rated recruits, like Sawyer, have a hard time picking up this offense because its not really one where you are going to get taught anything.

But back to recruiting. I'm so ready for us to get a HC and staff that absolutely wants to kill it on the recruiting trail and not just half-ass things.

We had one. His name was jomo. Worked his ass off recruiting. Meant very little. And he couldn't coach either.

[Bothrops]

We had one. His name was jomo. Worked his ass off recruiting. Meant very little. And he couldn't coach either.

Jomo could recruit. That was his only knack as our HC.

[Homedawg]

Jomo could recruit. That was his only knack as our HC.

If you went by rankings he wasn't that good.... he had a passion for it and still couldn't close the deal...

[Bothrops]

If you went by rankings he wasn't that good.... he had a passion for it and still couldn't close the deal...

Yeah he closed the deal on several players we wouldn't have had otherwise. Marks, Shrader and Cross immediately come to mind.

[Hambone]

So are we expecting any commits this weekend?

[Dawgology]

We had one. His name was jomo. Worked his ass off recruiting. Meant very little. And he couldn't coach either.

This exactly. Again. Until the university and boosters actually back recruiting it doesn?t matter who we put in as HC the recruiting results will be the same. It?s not that hard to understand. We don?t have the booster support like most SEC programs do in recruiting. We aren?t organized with it at all. We will continually get beat 75+% of the time until that change. But it won?t. It hasn?t in the past 30 years. Additionally, we have a compliance office that is more concerned with ?atta?boys? from the NCAA and SEC than we are with winning these battles and playing to the field standard. Also, most of our fans support this approach. They would rather take the moral high ground and lose (then complain about it) than get in the mud with everyone else and win. It is what it is.

[BrunswickDawg]

This exactly. Again. Until the university and boosters actually back recruiting it doesn?t matter who we put in as HC the recruiting results will be the same. It?s not that hard to understand. We don?t have the booster support like most SEC programs do in recruiting. We aren?t organized with it at all. We will continually get beat 75+% of the time until that change. But it won?t. It hasn?t in the past 30 years. Additionally, we have a compliance office that is more concerned with ?atta?boys? from the NCAA and SEC than we are with winning these battles and playing to the field standard. Also, most of our fans support this approach. They would rather take the moral high ground and lose (then complain about it) than get in the mud with everyone else and win. It is what it is.

I blame a lot of this on our history with the NCAA. They have smacked us around since Bob Tyler for trying to play the game. It's just like the way we get hosed by SEC refs - the cards are stacked against us.

[Homedawg]

Yeah he closed the deal on several players we wouldn't have had otherwise. Marks, Shrader and Cross immediately come to mind.

I meant his ranking was basically where we had been in the past. Not much changed. The head coaches effort went up, but the net result was basically the same. And yes I agree we wouldn't have gotten those 3....

[HancockCountyDog]

I think a win and some positive momentum is exactly what we need to firm up Blanton.

I think both things happen.

[BayouDawg]

That was a good drive. Just gotta finish. That would have been a time to check to a screen instead of a handoff

[Dawgology]

That was a good drive. Just gotta finish. That would have been a time to check to a screen instead of a handoff

I met Blanton in the sideline today. He seemed like a nice kid. Big fella.

[Hambone]

I hope you gave him a $100 hand shake……

Only slightly kidding

[Dawgology]

I hope you gave him a $100 hand shake……

Only slightly kidding

Never! We have our cigarillo boys to handle that kind of big money.**

[HancockCountyDog]

Any news yet? Normally people set announcement dates within a week of an official visit.

[HancockCountyDog]

This thread shouldn?t be so quiet after a fairly big recruiting weekend.

[bulldawg28]

This thread shouldn?t be so quiet after a fairly big recruiting weekend.

We lost that can make a kid second guess.

[msugolf]

As of right now, we dont have a committed player that could come in and contribute in a year or two. Seems like a class of just adding depth. Hope we plan on hitting the transfer portal hard

[Bothrops]

As of right now, we dont have a committed player that could come in and contribute in a year or two. Seems like a class of just adding depth. Hope we plan on hitting the transfer portal hard

One of the linebackers could get early playing time.

[Bothrops]

Quentel Jones got another CB to us. The two receivers Pope and? may wait till late to announce. Stone Blanton is a guess.

[maroonmania]

Quentel Jones got another CB to us. The two receivers Pope and? may wait till late to announce. Stone Blanton is a guess.

If we can't get Stone Blanton to commit, a player that I thought was already committed to our baseball program, then our recruiting staff stinks.

[Todd4State]

If we can't get Stone Blanton to commit, a player that I thought was already committed to our baseball program, then our recruiting staff stinks.

My educated guess is he is holding out as long as possible because of his Ole Miss brother.

I think he commits to MSU in December for early NSD. But that's just a guess.

[HancockCountyDog]

My educated guess is he is holding out as long as possible because of his Ole Miss brother.

I think he commits to MSU in December for early NSD. But that's just a guess.

My understanding is that he has plenty of MSU in his corner.

[Commercecomet24]

My understanding is that he has plenty of MSU in his corner.

This and he's really into State baseball.

[Bothrops]

So MSU baseball and Ole Miss football?

[HancockCountyDog]

So MSU baseball and Ole Miss football?

I know you are joking, but I keep hearing this is where he is right now. I think we win out - too many connections for us.

[Commercecomet24]

I know you are joking, but I keep hearing this is where he is right now. I think we win out - too many connections for us.

Agreed

[trob115]

NIL deal for our baseball team is huge for kids like Stone. He's about to make 10k guaranteed for baseball and then have a full scholarship from football.

[ShotgunDawg]

Seeing OM what they truly are today has to help MSU with Stone. Maybe not much, but some

[MetEdDawg]

Seeing OM what they truly are today has to help MSU with Stone. Maybe not much, but some

Win and it does. Lose and it really doesn't mean much at all.

[confucius say]

What about Davis Dalton, the kid at MRA who had 388 yards receiving vs prep last week? I know he is committed to usm but are we sure we want to pass on that kid? I know he is a 4.8 40 right now.

[Madisonmd]

What about Davis Dalton, the kid at MRA who had 388 yards receiving vs prep last week? I know he is committed to usm but are we sure we want to pass on that kid? I know he is a 4.8 40 right now.

Yes, he is a pass. Too slow

[SilentSteel16]

Prep is not good this year …

[confucius say]

Prep is not good this year …

True. But he has torched everybody the last two years, public and private. Including the two D1 kids on Deion's team last year.

[confucius say]

Yes, he is a pass. Too slow

Fair enough

[SilentSteel16]

Deion Sanders? So you are saying he would be a great G5 player. 4.8 in SEC just doesn’t cut it. Unless he is another cranial receiver like Austin Williams. But look how long it took him to contribute. Just don’t think you tie up a scholly on that.

[confucius say]

Deion Sanders? So you are saying he would be a great G5 player. 4.8 in SEC just doesn’t cut it. Unless he is another cranial receiver like Austin Williams. But look how long it took him to contribute. Just don’t think you tie up a scholly on that.

Yea Deion. He coached two D1 DBs on the HS team he coached last year that was ranked top 10 in Texas and lost to MRA. Dalton abused both of them, including catching the game winner.

If you could guarantee me he would be another Austin Williams I'd take him today. You need a guy like that. It took him a long time to contribute Bc all of wr sucked under Joe.

And yes, almost all of daltons routes are adjustment routes. Very cranial.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

I like Dalton. He can play. I do think we can sign better however.

[Todd4State]

I'll say this about Dalton Davis and it's more of a general statement.

I think sometimes people focus too much on 40 times and measurables and not enough on whether a guy can actually play the game or not.

I've seen this play out several times. A guy is too small, not fast enough, skinny, doesn't have enough hair on his chest, etc. And then that player goes somewhere else and plays well and sometimes even gets a shot in the NFL.

And then we get some guy that did well at camp but can't play and they just end up being a never ending project or able to maybe contribute some their senior year.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Deion Sanders? So you are saying he would be a great G5 player. 4.8 in SEC just doesn?t cut it. Unless he is another cranial receiver like Austin Williams. But look how long it took him to contribute. Just don?t think you tie up a scholly on that.

Im not advocating for/against this kid, but, he's faster than the late, great, Bear Wilson.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I'll say this about Dalton Davis and it's more of a general statement.

I think sometimes people focus too much on 40 times and measurables and not enough on whether a guy can actually play the game or not.

I've seen this play out several times. A guy is too small, not fast enough, skinny, doesn't have enough hair on his chest, etc. And then that player goes somewhere else and plays well and sometimes even gets a shot in the NFL.

And then we get some guy that did well at camp but can't play and they just end up being a never ending project or able to maybe contribute some their senior year.

If you're talking about the Davis Dalton kid at MRA he needs to be a last resort option or offer him a PWO spot. Getting open, catching the ball, and absorbing the blow are a completely different animal in the SEC than they are in the MAIS. It's not even in the same atmosphere. Hell the CUSA will be an adjustment for him. It's great to ball out against PCS and Lamar but I don't see many alumni from those places playing on Saturdays. He'll take a minimum of two years to even get him up to speed and his body prepared for this level

Also....everyone is complaining about our recruiting rankings but want us to go offer an MAIS kid with no P5 offers. I'm sure we'll really shoot up the rankings with that one. Go all in on Thomas and Pope. The days of offering a kid because gah lee gee his dad played here and Bob from Bogue Chitto knows his grandparents need to be long gone.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Im not advocating for/against this kid, but, he's faster than the late, great, Bear Wilson.


The main difference is you can't teach 6'6. De'Runnya was a matchup nightmare for any defense. We schemed the hell out of people running the sideline "box out" route with him. An SEC defender couldn't bully De'Runnya. An SEC DB will put this kid in the 3rd row.

[Leroy Jenkins]

The main difference is you can't teach 6'6. De'Runnya was a matchup nightmare for any defense. We schemed the hell out of people running the sideline "box out" route with him. An SEC defender couldn't bully De'Runnya. An SEC DB will put this kid in the 3rd row.

Bear was 6-4 220 at the combine, ran a horrible 4.85sec 40, with an abysmal 28 inch vertical, and I would take him back in a minute.

This kid, who I have not seen outside of HUDL, is 6-3 200 and has a teenagers body still. Now, if he were actually the "best available" option I would just save that scholly for the portal.

[confucius say]

If you're talking about the Davis Dalton kid at MRA he needs to be a last resort option or offer him a PWO spot. Getting open, catching the ball, and absorbing the blow are a completely different animal in the SEC than they are in the MAIS. It's not even in the same atmosphere. Hell the CUSA will be an adjustment for him. It's great to ball out against PCS and Lamar but I don't see many alumni from those places playing on Saturdays. He'll take a minimum of two years to even get him up to speed and his body prepared for this level

MRA has played a tougher schedule to this point in the season than at least 85% of Public schools in the state. Probably has played the toughest schedule in the state.

Played the top ranked team in the state of MS (GC), top ranked team in Ark (Pulaski), top ranked team in TN (Oakland). Nobody else in the state has played anything close to that.
JA is solid with two D1 guys. Prep is meh. Played a 3A public in Raleigh. destroyed all 3 of them. If he's not good enough to play at state, it's not bc of weak competition.

[BrunswickDawg]

The main difference is you can't teach 6'6. De'Runnya was a matchup nightmare for any defense. We schemed the hell out of people running the sideline "box out" route with him. An SEC defender couldn't bully De'Runnya. An SEC DB will put this kid in the 3rd row.

And he excelled at blocking. I don't think we have ever had a WR that blocked like Bear.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Bear was 6-4 220 at the combine. This kid, who I have not seen outside of HUDL, is 6-3 200 and has a teenagers body still. Now, if he were actually the "best available" option I would just save that scholly for the portal.

Yea that one bummed me out because the game program always reported 6'6 or 6'5. Regardless, we don't need to take Dalton. If he was such a hot commodity then he'd have a P5 offer. Offer him a PWO and move on down the line. If he's so good he'll prove it and prove me wrong.

[StarkVegasSteve]

MRA has played a tougher schedule to this point in the season than at least 85% of Public schools in the state. Probably has played the toughest schedule in the state.

Played the top ranked team in the state of MS (GC), top ranked team in Ark (Pulaski), top ranked team in TN (Oakland). Nobody else in the state has played anything close to that.
JA is solid with two D1 guys. Prep is meh. Played a 3A public in Raleigh. destroyed all 3 of them. If he's not good enough to play at state, it's not bc of weak competition.

But go look at how he did against that competition. And Elam from GCS worked him the first game of the year. Again, like I said, offer him a PWO spot and maybe he'll prove me wrong.

[SilentSteel16]

Im not advocating for/against this kid, but, he's faster than the late, great, Bear Wilson.

Is he 6 foot 5 inches and weigh 220? Does he have a 40 inch vertical? If not the comparison is moot.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Ok Bill Brasky.

[dawgman15]

Is he 6 foot 5 inches and weigh 220? Does he have a 40 inch vertical? If not the comparison is moot.

De'Runnya's vertical was 28" and he ran a 4.85 fourty

[Maverick91]

If you're talking about the Davis Dalton kid at MRA he needs to be a last resort option or offer him a PWO spot. Getting open, catching the ball, and absorbing the blow are a completely different animal in the SEC than they are in the MAIS. It's not even in the same atmosphere. Hell the CUSA will be an adjustment for him. It's great to ball out against PCS and Lamar but I don't see many alumni from those places playing on Saturdays. He'll take a minimum of two years to even get him up to speed and his body prepared for this level

Also....everyone is complaining about our recruiting rankings but want us to go offer an MAIS kid with no P5 offers. I'm sure we'll really shoot up the rankings with that one. Go all in on Thomas and Pope. The days of offering a kid because gah lee gee his dad played here and Bob from Bogue Chitto knows his grandparents need to be long gone.

Amen to this one!

[confucius say]

But go look at how he did against that competition. And Elam from GCS worked him the first game of the year. Again, like I said, offer him a PWO spot and maybe he'll prove me wrong.

That's just not true. The stats are online.

8 for 113 yards against Elam and GC
9 for 141 against Pulaski
3 for 38 against Oakland (they ran drop 8 every snap and it have Mra fits (sounds familiar, ha))
7 for 168 against JA
5 for 123 against Raleigh

Also had a State record 388 yards receiving vs prep (who I know isn't good).

[StarkVegasSteve]

That's just not true. The stats are online.

8 for 113 yards against Elam and GC
9 for 141 against Pulaski
3 for 38 against Oakland (they ran drop 8 every snap and it have Mra fits (sounds familiar, ha))
7 for 168 against JA
5 for 123 against Raleigh

Also had a State record 388 yards receiving vs prep (who I know isn't good).

My bad on that. Had bad information except for Oakland, which I watched and wasn't impressed. As I said, throw him a PWO offer and let him prove himself. If he's that good then he'll play. Christian Ford has proved that.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Dalton will do well at USM.

[SilentSteel16]

De'Runnya's vertical was 28" and he ran a 4.85 fourty

Yet he won almost every 50/50 ball thrown his way. Against several SEC corners and OLBs several of which are STILL IN THE NFL. Hell he almost invented the back shoulder throw catch. It was just known then as a bad pass. Ha. That was partially a joke.

I hope the MRA kid does awesome and proves the star buyers at Rivals wrong. I just don’t see him being a contributor at State. He is a good athlete and definitely a D1 athlete. Just not more than a one year starter if that at any SEC school not named Vanderbilt

[Cowboydawg]

Jordaan Bailey out of Tampa

[StarkVegasSteve]

Jordaan Bailey out of Tampa

I think it's safe to say we look like we're preparing to move on from Jordan.

[Cowboydawg]

I think it's safe to say we look like we're preparing to move on from Jordan.

Jordaan Bailey
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/12641907/5f83220fff02270a041f5070

[dawgman15]

Jordaan Bailey is fast

[Westdawg]

Jordaan Bailey
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/12641907/5f83220fff02270a041f5070

Ho..Lee.. Chitty chitty bang bang 👀👀

[StarkVegasSteve]

Him and Hargrove in the same backfield??SPEED KILLS

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Getting open, catching the ball, and absorbing the blow are a completely different animal in the SEC than they are in the MAIS. It's not even in the same atmosphere. Hell the CUSA will be an adjustment for him. It's great to ball out against PCS and Lamar but I don't see many alumni from those places playing on Saturdays. He'll take a minimum of two years to even get him up to speed and his body prepared for this level.

I?m not advocating for signing Dalton, but this is just a stupid and lazy take. We have three other players committed from MAIS (Elam, Dakota Jordan, and Miller) yet nobody has said this about them. Dillon Jonson came from MAIS and played last year as a true freshman. Jon Banks came to MSU and excelled as a skinny true freshman from a small public school that didn?t play anywhere close to the competition level that MRA has played. We often sign public school players that play weaker competition than what MRA has faced and nobody ever mentions them absorbing blows, getting up to speed, etc. Jon Banks, Jamal Peters, Discenzo Miller, and many more come to mind.

I think we can do better than Dalton. I think SEC ball is an adjustment for everyone. I think smaller school players do have a larger adjustment to make. But let?s not act like 1A, 2A, and 3A public players are playing in some tough league while MRA is playing flag football.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I?m not advocating for signing Dalton, but this is just a stupid and lazy take. We have three other players committed from MAIS (Elam, Dakota Jordan, and Miller) yet nobody has said this about them. Dillon Jonson came from MAIS and played last year as a true freshman. Jon Banks came to MSU and excelled as a skinny true freshman from a small public school that didn?t play anywhere close to the competition level that MRA has played. We often sign public school players that play weaker competition than what MRA has faced and nobody ever mentions them absorbing blows, getting up to speed, etc. Jon Banks, Jamal Peters, Discenzo Miller, and many more come to mind.

I think we can do better than Dalton. I think SEC ball is an adjustment for everyone. I think smaller school players do have a larger adjustment to make. But let?s not act like 1A, 2A, and 3A public players are playing in some tough league while MRA is playing flag football.

Then stop advocating for why we need to offer him. you started by saying that you weren't for signing him and then gave all the reasons why we should. As I said 4 previous times, I'm not against giving the kid a PWO and letting him prove himself. All I'm saying is don't waste a scholarship on a kid who at most could contribute one year for you.

[confucius say]

Then stop advocating for why we need to offer him. you started by saying that you weren't for signing him and then gave all the reasons why we should. As I said 4 previous times, I'm not against giving the kid a PWO and letting him prove himself. All I'm saying is don't waste a scholarship on a kid who at most could contribute one year for you.

He's not advocating for signing the kid, he's advocating against your logic for not signing the kid. Which is the same thing I said. If the kid is not good enough to play here, it is not for the reasons you stated (poor competition), it is bc he just isn't good enough to play here. The competition he has faced has been superior to the competition faced by just about everybody committed to us.

[SilentSteel16]

Guys, let’s be real here. Is this kid a D1 athlete? Yes, is he a SEC athlete that can contribute like a D. Jordan, NO…. Jordan was being recruited 2 years ago. I am a public school kid myself, growing up in Pike County when Parklane Academy was a thing. We played them in fall ball, name the sport and we won just about every game. BTW we made the playoffs in baseball and football a grand total of 1 time in my 4 years of playing HS ball. Parklane won state championships 2 times in 2 different sports during that same stretch.

There are generational talents, such as J Banks and the kids mentioned above from small public schools as well as kids from small private schools. Hunter Renfrow I am looking at you, but the shear number of players in between those said players is way higher on average to not be exceptional.

Take my HS for instance we had 5 kids on my Hs football team my senior year to make a D1 roster and actually hit the field, 2 of them were later drafted into NFL and one MLB, he retired last year after over 10 years in MLB , not the system, the actual league. Again, neither baseball or football those same years made the playoffs. Parklane won a state title that very year, you know how many actually made a D1 roster, 0 zero.

I truly do not think that my example is an anomaly. This kid at MRA is a great player and will get a shot somewhere but you can’t tell me the level of co potion at MRA is the same for a school like pick a school, Brandon High or even a smaller school like Tylertown in the public school sector. If you think those are even comparable then you are proving my point. That generally speaking, in football for instance a 3A public school will produce just as many D1 athletes as a top level private school such as MRA.

Baseball is a different animal now, considering most kids on Prep and MRA and Parklane come from a family that spent over 2-5k a year in travel ball since the kid was 12 years old. Baseball is not comparable, but football most definitely is.

[SilentSteel16]

Granted my above example is above of baseball and football being equal is a couple of decades old, but the message is the same that football wise it still holds true. Baseball is another animal and I for one am not a n advocate for year round travel ball for a kid baseball wise, due to injury, burnout etc…

But let’s not get lost in the weeds here, when I say D1 athlete that does not mean SEC D1 athlete. D1 has a HUGE span because even the kids at Alcorn are D1 athletes, but they are not on level with USM athletes and USM athletes are not on level with MSU, and MSU athletes are not entirely on level with Alabama…you see my point?

[somebodyshotmypaw]

He's not advocating for signing the kid, he's advocating against your logic for not signing the kid. Which is the same thing I said. If the kid is not good enough to play here, it is not for the reasons you stated (poor competition), it is bc he just isn't good enough to play here. The competition he has faced has been superior to the competition faced by just about everybody committed to us.

Exactly. I’m not sure Dalton is good enough to play SEC ball, and I think we can sign better players than him. But if I use competition as the reason then Steven Ridley couldn’t play at LSU (MAIS kid who was All-SEC over Brandon Bolden, Vic Ballard, Trent Richardson). And Ben Beckwith, Justin Malone, Dillon Johnson, Jon Banks, Cam Lawrence, Jamal Peters, Discenzo Miller, Kaleb Eulls, Bernardrick McKinney Jerion Ealy, and many others couldn’t play either. Now admittedly it is easier for coaches to evaluate a guy at a 6A public school versus a 1A public school. But you can’t just refuse to sign Dicenzo Miller because he didn’t play good competition. It’s not his fault that Weir was small. If Jeffrey Simmons played at Rebul Academy in Learned, I would still want him on my team.

[Todd4State]

If you're talking about the Davis Dalton kid at MRA he needs to be a last resort option or offer him a PWO spot. Getting open, catching the ball, and absorbing the blow are a completely different animal in the SEC than they are in the MAIS. It's not even in the same atmosphere. Hell the CUSA will be an adjustment for him. It's great to ball out against PCS and Lamar but I don't see many alumni from those places playing on Saturdays. He'll take a minimum of two years to even get him up to speed and his body prepared for this level

Also....everyone is complaining about our recruiting rankings but want us to go offer an MAIS kid with no P5 offers. I'm sure we'll really shoot up the rankings with that one. Go all in on Thomas and Pope. The days of offering a kid because gah lee gee his dad played here and Bob from Bogue Chitto knows his grandparents need to be long gone.

I'm fine taking 1-2 players a year like Dalton. The SEC is a big jump from MAIS. It's also a big jump from 6A ball in Mississippi. With recruits I'm not too concerned if they aren't able to immediately help us because I don't expect that of any of them. That's not even the case for most incoming freshmen at Alabama and we shouldn't not take a player because of that otherwise our classes would be very small because they're all in the same boat as far as that. If he can get into a SEC program and work hard and get his body right by the time he is a sophomore or junior he could be a very productive player for us.

At the same time we shouldn't just run down a player because he is from MAIS and a MSU fan either. Sometimes players that end up somewhere they truly want to be play above their abilities. If he becomes Austin Williams 2.0 for us I would be very happy with that.

[Todd4State]

Exactly. I’m not sure Dalton is good enough to play SEC ball, and I think we can sign better players than him. But if I use competition as the reason then Steven Ridley couldn’t play at LSU (MAIS kid who was All-SEC over Brandon Bolden, Vic Ballard, Trent Richardson). And Ben Beckwith, Justin Malone, Dillon Johnson, Jon Banks, Cam Lawrence, Jamal Peters, Discenzo Miller, Kaleb Eulls, Bernardrick McKinney Jerion Ealy, and many others couldn’t play either. Now admittedly it is easier for coaches to evaluate a guy at a 6A public school versus a 1A public school. But you can’t just refuse to sign Dicenzo Miller because he didn’t play good competition. It’s not his fault that Weir was small. If Jeffrey Simmons played at Rebul Academy in Learned, I would still want him on my team.

Competition is so overblown when evaluating recruits. If a player can play he can play. Look at Greenville Christian. They are essentially an All-Star team from the Delta which is mostly small schools and they are able to compete and beat most of their competition.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Competition is so overblown when evaluating recruits. If a player can play he can play. Look at Greenville Christian. They are essentially an All-Star team from the Delta which is mostly small schools and they are able to compete and beat most of their competition.

Yep. There are some kids playing on the D-Line at Brandon, or Pearl, or Germantown, or Gulfport that aren’t SEC caliber players. But they are facing much better competition than Chris Jones or Fletcher Cox faced. You should recruit the player, not the player’s competition. The irony is that people that want to discount Dalton simply because of competition are fine with offering Stone Blanton. And Blanton literally faces the same competition. That shows the stupidity of the argument.

[SilentSteel16]

Stone Blanton is not the example you are wanting to use. He is a two sport guy that will play baseball probably faster than he will on football field. Plus look at his offers. While I agree with you saying no to judge the competition but you do have to take it into your reasoning when it comes to stats. But the Stone Blanton example does not help your argument. Baseball in MAIS is heads and shoulders better than MHSAA school. Not even comparable overall.

Everyone was on board with offering the WR a PWO and hope he eventually earns his scholarship, but to just give them out when we are clearly going after bigger fish currently is just not going to work. If that were the case we would have offered the RB from Starkville high a couple years ago early. If they are offered late it is because we missed on someone that is viewed as higher talent.

I honestly hope we get the kid and he can contribute, just do believe that they have others in mind first.

[PMDawg]

Is Dayan Bilbo another High School phenom who isn't for the college game? I don't know much about him, other than he has crazy stats. I assume he's small or something, because he's not on anyone's radar. Maybe like the kid out of East Central a few years ago?

[HancockCountyDog]

At this point I?d take some ?interviews? done by Fancy on MSU prospects.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

At this point I?d take some ?interviews? done by Fancy on MSU prospects.

There's just rarely any commits during the season. We have a chance to really close well. It's just contingent on getting it done. The pieces & relationships are there for the taking. Get it done.

[HancockCountyDog]

I hear we need to survive Blanton's trip to the bears this weekend - if we do, I hear we can hold on to him.

[HancockCountyDog]

Trevion Williams from Crystal Springs just decommitted from FSU.

We are in this one I?m told.

[MetEdDawg]

I've also seen that we are in it with a DB transfer Kerry Martin from West Virginia.

Was a mid tier 3 star out of high school.

[deltadawg63]

His host is Plumlee. Rebel fans feel real good about a commitment. All their coaches are regularly in contact with him...the only hesitation is his love for MSU baseball.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

His host is Plumlee. Rebel fans feel real good about a commitment. All their coaches are regularly in contact with him...the only hesitation is his love for MSU baseball.

His host? He's not taking an OV.

[HancockCountyDog]

His host? He's not taking an OV.

yeah he already took his OV - this is an unofficial visit.

[Hambone]

So….. his host is going to be a guy who can’t start on the football team OR baseball team……

I really don’t get the hype JRP gets…. Yea, he’s fast but other than that he kind of sucks

[KOdawg1]

So….. his host is going to be a guy who can’t start on the football team OR baseball team……

I really don’t get the hype JRP gets…. Yea, he’s fast but other than that he kind of sucks

JRP is a good looking white dude, so they worship him. It's very weird how obsessed they are with a mediocre player.

[Hambone]

JRP is a good looking white dude, so they worship him. It's very weird how obsessed they are with a mediocre player.

You worded it way better than I did and that’s exactly what I was inferring.

[SilentSteel16]

He also plays a mean piano

[Bdawg]

There's just rarely any commits during the season. We have a chance to really close well. It's just contingent on getting it done. The pieces & relationships are there for the taking. Get it done.

No news in so long... could we get a run down on who we would like to finish with or should I say likely finish with? Thanks

[Bothrops]

No news in so long... could we get a run down on who we would like to finish with or should I say likely finish with? Thanks

I'll try...

Stone Blanton - 50%
Khamauri Rogers - 80%
Jaheim Oatis - 35%
Trevion Williams - 60%
Percy Lewis - 75%
Chris Bell - 85%
Kaydin Pope - 50%
Zavion Thomas - 50%
Ajay Allen - 45%

[Todd4State]

I'll try...

Stone Blanton - 50%
Khamauri Rogers - 80%
Jaheim Oatis - 35%
Trevion Williams - 60%
Percy Lewis - 75%
Chris Bell - 85%
Kaydin Pope - 50%
Zavion Thomas - 50%
Ajay Allen - 45%

I would be very happy if we landed all the 50% and above guys. And I think that's doable.

[SilentSteel16]

Rogers at 80 percent? We are not even in his top 10 according to 247

[KOdawg1]

Rogers at 80 percent? We are not even in his top 10 according to 247
Things have changed. We're probably the favorite to land him at this point. It's on the staff to get it done.

[SilentSteel16]

Things have changed. We're probably the favorite to land him at this point. It's on the staff to get it done.

AWESOME, that would be a great pickup… is it because of injury?

[KOdawg1]

AWESOME, that would be a great pickup… is it because of injury?

I think it's because things are rocky at the U. Injury could be part of it though

[Maverick91]

I would be very happy if we landed all the 50% and above guys. And I think that's doable.

This right here is exciting! If our staff can puff half of this, I would say that's an awesome job.

[Bdawg]

I'll try...

Stone Blanton - 50%
Khamauri Rogers - 80%
Jaheim Oatis - 35%
Trevion Williams - 60%
Percy Lewis - 75%
Chris Bell - 85%
Kaydin Pope - 50%
Zavion Thomas - 50%
Ajay Allen - 45%

Thank you. Gives us something to chew on.

[Cooterpoot]

😎

[bulldawg28]

��

What's going on my guy?! Where have you been hiding?

[KOdawg1]

��

Dortch?

[confucius say]

😎

Go on

[Bothrops]

Ole Miss will let him play at any receiver position he wanted before losing him to us.

[Cooterpoot]

Dortch?

Strike one

[sscjr1]

Strike one

Trevion

[FISHDAWG]

Forgive me if I missed this before but haven't heard this yet ... saw this on another board claiming he was committed ... the guy is from Texas ... I trust no other source than ED - can someone confirm or deny

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCu2l6DXoAYqFdl?format=jpg&name=large

[FISHDAWG]

Forgive me if I missed this before but haven't heard this yet ... saw this on another board claiming he was committed ... the guy is from Texas ... I trust no other source than ED - can someone confirm or deny



Braedyn Locke ... QB out of Texas
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCu2l6DXoAYqFdl?format=jpg&name=large

[Tripp McNeely]

Forgive me if I missed this before but haven't heard this yet ... saw this on another board claiming he was committed ... the guy is from Texas ... I trust no other source than ED - can someone confirm or deny



Bradeyn Locke ... QB out of Texas
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCu2l6DXoAYqFdl?format=jpg&name=large

Yeah he's been committed for months!

[sscjr1]

Forgive me if I missed this before but haven't heard this yet ... saw this on another board claiming he was committed ... the guy is from Texas ... I trust no other source than ED - can someone confirm or deny



Braedyn Locke ... QB out of Texas
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCu2l6DXoAYqFdl?format=jpg&name=large

https://247sports.com/player/braedyn-locke-46093750/

[Cooterpoot]

Trevion

👀

[Hambone]

Hot damn! Go get em guys!!

[Dawgfan77]

Bout to get a RB that could change the offense

[Travelingdawg]

Go on!

[Maverick91]

Bout to get a RB that could change the offense

Yes! Who?

[Bdawg]

Bout to get a RB that could change the offense

What ya got? Allan, since Patterson is done?

[Dawgfan77]

What ya got? Allan, since Patterson is done?
That's what I'm hearing plus kid really likes state

[confucius say]

That's what I'm hearing plus kid really likes state

Who is Allan?

[bulldawg28]

Bout to get a RB that could change the offense

Change the offense? Really?

[Maverick91]

That's what I'm hearing plus kid really likes state

IS this a transfer in or a High school kid? who is this?

[Hambone]

Change the offense? Really?

I’m in agreement with you. He’s good, but I don’t remember the last time a 3 star rb was a game changer

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I’m in agreement with you. He’s good, but I don’t remember the last time a 3 star rb was a game changer

Josh Robinson? Vic Ballard?

[Bdawg]

That's what I'm hearing plus kid really likes state

Is he a speedster or something? What makes him a game changer? Sure hope he is.

[Hambone]

Josh Robinson? Vic Ballard?

I stand corrected.

[Maverick91]

Can someone freaking tell me who this dude is?

[SmokeyDawg]

Can someone freaking tell me who this dude is?

https://247sports.com/player/ajay-allen-46118313/

[Maverick91]

https://247sports.com/player/ajay-allen-46118313/

Thank you kind sir! Why are we flipping our lids over a 86 rated 3 star? Is he drastically underrated?

[Dawgfan77]

Thank you kind sir! Why are we flipping our lids over a 86 rated 3 star? Is he drastically underrated?

Probably more speed and elusiveness we have had at the RB spot in a long time. Creates more miss matches.
Change the offense meaning he has that breakaway speed we need at RB.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

What are our odds on Stone Blanton, Trevion Williams, Khamauri Rogers, and Jaheim Oatis?

[Ari Gold]

What are our odds on Stone Blanton, Trevion Williams, Khamauri Rogers, and Jaheim Oatis?

3 of the 4

[ShotgunDawg]

3 of the 4

Feels like Oatis is the least likely, but I'm hoping we can snag him.

Having him here to watch Bama obliterate us probably wasn't the best of ideas.

[Maverick91]

Probably more speed and elusiveness we have had at the RB spot in a long time. Creates more miss matches.
Change the offense meaning he has that breakaway speed we need at RB.

Okay, that makes sense. A bigger quicker Brandon Holloway?

[Maverick91]

3 of the 4

That's still a really nice pull as long as Stone doesn't go the baseball route.

[Ari Gold]

That's still a really nice pull as long as Stone doesn't go the baseball route.

I wouldn’t expect him to play both... he probably will year one, but after that he will see the writing on the wall for one of the 2..

[Bdawg]

Probably more speed and elusiveness we have had at the RB spot in a long time. Creates more miss matches.
Change the offense meaning he has that breakaway speed we need at RB.

Hargrove same height and 10lbs heavier(what roster says anyway). Not sure why he hasn't had touches, but he's supposed to be able to fly too. I like speed.

[Dawgfan77]

Hargrove same height and 10lbs heavier(what roster says anyway). Not sure why he hasn't had touches, but he's supposed to be able to fly too. I like speed.

We are taking it slow with Hargrove he had a knee injury in HS. We don't technically need him this year but he could get some snaps against TSU.
But Allen has more of that game breaking speed we are looking for.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

We are taking it slow with Hargrove he had a knee injury in HS. We don't technically need him this year but he could get some snaps against TSU.
But Allen has more of that game breaking speed we are looking for.

Allen isn't faster than Bull (Hargrove). Not close.

[Cooterpoot]

Allen is closer to Woody Marks. Allen only has a couple P5 offers.

[Tripp McNeely]

Allen is closer to Woody Marks. Allen only has a couple P5 offers.

Woody had a lot more than a couple P5 offers!

[Cooterpoot]

Woody had a lot more than a couple P5 offers!

Correct. But he's a better comparison that the others on our roster.

[Tripp McNeely]

Correct. But he's a better comparison that the others on our roster.

Got ya

[Hambone]

So does anyone know when some of these decisions may be made? Are we talking early signing period or February?

[Cooterpoot]

So does anyone know when some of these decisions may be made? Are we talking early signing period or February?

December shall be glorious! It's starting to surpass even what I expected. If we keep winning, you'll have to walk with your hand in your pocket. I'm not ready to say top 20 just yet, but definitely top 25.

[Maverick91]

December shall be glorious! It's starting to surpass even what I expected. If we keep winning, you'll have to walk with your hand in your pocket. I'm not ready to say top 20 just yet, but definitely top 25.

Cooter I trust you! I need this to be real. If we actually have a coach that wants to be here aaaaaannnnd can recruit. That is to much man!

[Cooterpoot]

Cooter I trust you! I need this to be real. If we actually have a coach that wants to be here aaaaaannnnd can recruit. That is to much man!

Think about this:

4star Blanton
4star Williams
4star Dortch

Other possible:
4star Oatis
4star Rogers

Then you've got the other WR recruits, a RB, DB recruits.
It's up for grabs still. Lots left on the table and lots of good vibes. But we need to win games and keep the Mo on our side. And I don't expect all those guys, but damn! We could get close.

[Maverick91]

Think about this:

4star Blanton
4star Williams
4star Dortch

Other possible:
4star Oatis
4star Rogers

Then you've got the other WR recruits, a RB, DB recruits.
It's up for grabs still. Lots left on the table and lots of good vibes. But we need to win games and keep the Mo on our side. And I don't expect all those guys, but damn! We could get close.

I need more of this in my life! We need to win well Saturday. If these 18, 19, and 20 year old kids only knew how much this 30 year old needs from them to be happy in life... JK but, seriously, the momentum going into Auburn.

[Commercecomet24]

Think about this:

4star Blanton
4star Williams
4star Dortch

Other possible:
4star Oatis
4star Rogers

Then you've got the other WR recruits, a RB, DB recruits.
It's up for grabs still. Lots left on the table and lots of good vibes. But we need to win games and keep the Mo on our side. And I don't expect all those guys, but damn! We could get close.

Yeah I've been hearing more and more that these guys are starting to get on board and that we're going to close strong. Hope that holds true!

[Hambone]

I know it’s been said not to get your hopes up about Otis, but I swear every time I turn around he’s on campus. Could be we’re just the closest school for him to get to, but it just seems odd that he would spend so much time here.

[KOdawg1]

So here's a breakdown of where we are and what we have left to do.

QB:

Commits: Braedyn Locke

RB:

Commits: Dakota Jordan

Targets: Ajay, Allen (TCU commit), Victor Venn (Colorado commit), Jordaan Bailey (Pitt commit)

WR:

Commits: Janorris Hopson

Targets: Marquez Dortch (OM commit), Kaydin Pope, Zavion Thomas, Larry Simmons (OM commit)

OL:

Commits: Lucas Taylor, Cam East, Jackson Cannon

Targets: Percy Lewis (Oregon commit), Trent Ramsey, Grayson Morgan, Anez Cooper

DL:

Commits: RJ Moss, Donterry Russell

Targets: Trevion Williams, Jaheim Oatis, Jeffrey M'ba

LB:

Commits: Javae Gilmore, Khalid Moore

Targets: Stone Blanton, Chris Bell

DB:

Commits: Wesley Miller, Tyler Woodard, Jourdan Thomas (for now), Kylon Griffin, Audavion Collins, Jaterrious Elam (for now), Trent Singleton

Targets: Khamauri Rogers (Miami commit), Zahquan Frazier (Juco), Decarlos Nicholson (Juco; Kentucky commit for now)


The ingredients are there for a strong finish. We just have to get it done.

[Hambone]

Have things really gone that sour with Ole Miss and Dortch? Just realized 24/7 has him crystal balled to State.

[FriarsPoint]

247 showing East headed to Oxford this weekend and getting lots of interest from other schools.

[ShotgunDawg]

247 showing East headed to Oxford this weekend and getting lots of interest from other schools.

We're fine

[FISHDAWG]

I know it?s been said not to get your hopes up about Otis, but I swear every time I turn around he?s on campus. Could be we?re just the closest school for him to get to, but it just seems odd that he would spend so much time here.

I hear you but so did AJ Brown

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I hear you but so did AJ Brown

AJ didn't spend a lot of time at MSU. It was like pulling teeth just to get him to come to summer camp.

[Maverick91]

AJ didn't spend a lot of time at MSU. It was like pulling teeth just to get him to come to summer camp.

I hate Mullen!

[bulldawg28]

I hate Mullen!

You can't blame Mullen. He was never coming to state

[Hambone]

Exactly! Mullen knew that so didn’t even waste his time with AJ.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Mullen didn't do a good job recruiting with AJ

AJ was never coming to MSU

Both things are true

[Maverick91]

You can't blame Mullen. He was never coming to state

... I still hate Mullen.

[FISHDAWG]

AJ didn't spend a lot of time at MSU. It was like pulling teeth just to get him to come to summer camp.

I stand corrected ... I had heard that he was at a lot of the games and around the facilities ... thanks for the correction

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I stand corrected ... I had heard that he was at a lot of the games and around the facilities ... thanks for the correction

Now Kobe Jones he was there all the time.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Mullen didn't do a good job recruiting with AJ

AJ was never coming to MSU

Both things are true

True and to think I got banned for awhile for saying so months before he signed.

[bulldawg28]

... I still hate Mullen.

Lol...I've gotcha. Rep worthy but I must spread it

[Maverick91]

Lol...I've gotcha. Rep worthy but I must spread it

Roger that!

[Dawgfan77]

Allan stats from Thursday night
Had 6 carries for 162 yards and 3 touchdowns. He is averaging around 12 yards per carry for the year.

[WhiskeyPirate]

Let’s see some more news. Williams, Dortch , Allen, Blanton and Thomas would be huge. We still need a big DT

[Westdawg]

Hoping the staff can find a way to flip Oatis - dude would be an impact

[WhiskeyPirate]

The more I watch football, including sons high school team, I realize the most important unit on the field is the O line. You can not run any type of offense or have any decent run production, q b production without a good O line.

This class needs more O lineman. Big boy from Alabama and Cam look good but that’s two. Need more.

[Dawgology]

I've been a State fan for too long to get excited about Signing Day. I just go into it expecting a bunch of last minute shenanigans and flips. I hope this is the signing day that it doesn't happen though.

[Doggie_Style]

I've been a State fan for too long to get excited about Signing Day. I just go into it expecting a bunch of last minute shenanigans and flips. I hope this is the signing day that it doesn't happen though.

That?s the thing that?s different about this year?s class?.it?s highly unlikely that anyone is after the guys we have committed?.we are holding out hope that we can sign some uncommitted guys and maybe flip a few to make it a top 25 effort?..then there?s the portal so it?s an odd dynamic

[dawgman15]

That?s the thing that?s different about this year?s class?.it?s highly unlikely that anyone is after the guys we have committed?.we are holding out hope that we can sign some uncommitted guys and maybe flip a few to make it a top 25 effort?..then there?s the portal so it?s an odd dynamic

Is it not concerning to have people committed who other schools don't want?

[MetEdDawg]

Is it not concerning to have people committed who other schools don't want?

I wouldn't say no one wants these kids.

Cam East and Lucas Taylor are solid OL. I think Locke should be a 4 star.

The rest are really not super highly rated guys. They are going to be system and personality fits. The bigger name guys are going to be the guys we are fighting for the next month.

[Ari Gold]

Is it not concerning to have people committed who other schools don't want?

Name the players currently committed that don’t have other P5 offers
my bet you can’t name more than 2

[Cooterpoot]

That?s the thing that?s different about this year?s class?.it?s highly unlikely that anyone is after the guys we have committed?.we are holding out hope that we can sign some uncommitted guys and maybe flip a few to make it a top 25 effort?..then there?s the portal so it?s an odd dynamic

I mean, you're wrong but carry on. We've got a solid class but the only crew guys would make it a good class. If they all fall to us (and most will), it's a top 20ish class. You don't have a top 25 class with guys nobody wants. You don't even have a top 40 class without guys others want.

[MetEdDawg]

You can for sure count Dakota Jordan in this class. Officially signed with baseball yesterday.

He will be on football scholarship but it's nice to go ahead and have him in the boat.

[Heydawg]

Is Dakota a MLB draft risk? I know someone close to him and they say he?s an unbelievable athlete.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

You can for sure count Dakota Jordan in this class. Officially signed with baseball yesterday.

He will be on football scholarship but it's nice to go ahead and have him in the boat.

If he signed a baseball scholarship he won't be playing football. If he's going to be on football scholarship he didn't sign yesterday. You can't sign a football scholarship until December.

[WhiskeyPirate]

I like the class they have assembled, Moss, Khalid , the DBs some solid players, but they need to close with Williams, Blanton, Dortch to make it a top 25 class.

I’ve followed Leach since Wes Welker was returning punts at tech(nobody wanted him and he was one of the best college players in the country), all the way through WSU and the talent Leach is getting is really solid. He’s never had the kind of athletes he is getting now.

[Commercecomet24]

I mean, you're wrong but carry on. We've got a solid class but the only crew guys would make it a good class. If they all fall to us (and most will), it's a top 20ish class. You don't have a top 25 class with guys nobody wants. You don't even have a top 40 class without guys others want.

This. Y'all listen to Cooter on this one.

[Pancho]

Every conversation I've heard on him is that he will be a 2 sport guy at least at first. That is one of the reasons he considered MSU in the first place.

[Todd4State]

You can for sure count Dakota Jordan in this class. Officially signed with baseball yesterday.

He will be on football scholarship but it's nice to go ahead and have him in the boat.

He only put out a graphic.

[Todd4State]

Is Dakota a MLB draft risk? I know someone close to him and they say he?s an unbelievable athlete.

Moderate to high risk. Could still play football if he goes pro in baseball though.

[Cooterpoot]

I don't think Jordan matters much on the football side TBH.

[Bothrops]

Khalid Moore is a stud

[MetEdDawg]

Bryson Hurst opens up his recruitment.

We going to be a player in this?

[Todd4State]

Bryson Hurst opens up his recruitment.

We going to be a player in this?

My guess is a kid that has family steering him to Ole Miss and he doesn't want to go there.

[ShotgunDawg]

My guess is a kid that has family steering him to Ole Miss and he doesn't want to go there.

In the transfer portal days, I think it’s really important to sign kids that WANT to be at your school. Feels like Hurst may need to recruit MSU to some degree

[Todd4State]

In the transfer portal days, I think it’s really important to sign kids that WANT to be at your school. Feels like Hurst may need to recruit MSU to some degree

Personally I think MSU just needs to do their due diligence here. We have the Mississippi/Alabama All Star game coming up and there always seems to be someone that no one was talking about the entire time that shows up. Could be Avery Sledge who is a LB. Could be someone else that plays OL. If Hurts is in the All-Star game we can evaluate him there as well.

It's difficult to identify OL in high school since they're almost always guys that aren't going to be ready to start until their junior year and need time in a SEC S&C program. And I may be reading too much into his tweet but it sounds to me like he has some potential off the field stuff going on in his lift distracting him some.

Hurst probably won't sign until February anyway so we have time.

[ZedFedder]

Dortch just decommitted.

[KOdawg1]

Dortch just decommitted.

Just a matter of time now

[Lance Harbor]

Which one is the orchestrated Flipmas nominee?



Just a matter of time now

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Which one is the orchestrated Flipmas nominee?

Neither but I guessing if OM recruiting doesn't go right I assume they could go back & grab Hurst.

[Pancho]

I hate to see then treat the young man this way. The do feel as if they can get a better player from the portal and Hurst is just a piece of meat to them.

[vv83]

Dortch is in the boat. Nice pickup