Recruiting 2017

[Irondawg]

i think Paul said CB but he's kind of a Jameon Lewis type. Could play CB or slot or even be an emergency QB

[bulldog2488]

Anybody got any intel on Bowie? Would love to flip him. The kid can play. I know we need OLs, but if you can get Bowie I think you gotta take him.

[jumbo]

As of now he's supposed to visit this weekend.

[msstate7]

As of now he's supposed to visit this weekend.

What you think on chances he flips?

[Really Clark?]

Bowie has a game tonight so if he shows it will be late or in the morning. Unless he shows he is still all 100% UNM in my book. If he shows, then we can maybe start discussing him as a possibility.

[bulldog2488]

Bowie has a game tonight so if he shows it will be late or in the morning. Unless he shows he is still all 100% UNM in my book. If he shows, then we can maybe start discussing him as a possibility.

Good point. Gotta get him on campus first. I do think if we can get him there we have a decent shot.

[jumbo]

What you think on chances he flips?


Like Clark said, no way to know until he actually shows up.

[Commercecomet24]

Anyone know where we stand with Josh Cooper? Seems to be a pretty good OL prospect and he's from Haughton and we all know how the last recruit we got from Haughton turned out.

[jumbo]

Anyone know where we stand with Josh Cooper? Seems to be a pretty good OL prospect and he's from Haughton and we all know how the last recruit we got from Haughton turned out.



We're in pretty good shape (whatever that means now) but he's a sign and place.

[Commercecomet24]

We're in pretty good shape (whatever that means now) but he's a sign and place.

Yeah I knew there was a snag somewhere I just couldn't remember exactly what it was. Thanks for the info.

[Really Clark?]

We're in pretty good shape (whatever that means now) but he's a sign and place.

It probably won't happen but he has made good progress toward qualifying. Not as clear a sign and place guy now but still more than likely.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

We're in pretty good shape (whatever that means now) but he's a sign and place.

Depending on how he does on his ACT he may can get to go to prep school for a semester instead of Juco.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

What you think on chances he flips?


If he don't show 0% If he does show 5%

[Commercecomet24]

So if we get Cooper in the boat that would give us 6 OL in this class so far. I don't get all the angst over our lack of OL this class. And all these guys appear to be good solid prospects not just fillers.

[1bigdawg]

So if we get Cooper in the boat that would give us 6 OL in this class so far. I don't get all the angst over our lack of OL this class. And all these guys appear to be good solid prospects not just fillers.

Counting on Reed?

[msstate7]

Is sanogo a take for us?

I notice Oliver and sanogo are being CB'd to OM. If they get those 2 to go along with Clarke, Dixon, and the juco LB, om will have done a pretty solid job of filling a glaring hole at lb. Really don't want Oliver there and hope Clarke flips to lsu

[jumbo]

Is sanogo a take for us?




I don't think he is

[HancockCountyDog]

So if we get Cooper in the boat that would give us 6 OL in this class so far. I don't get all the angst over our lack of OL this class. And all these guys appear to be good solid prospects not just fillers.

Lets hope you are right, its an important class on the OL. Our evaluations will need to be on point, I'm not sure any of the guys would be considered can't miss guys. We really need to have at least one HS can't miss guy per class. We haven't had one of those in a while.

[Commercecomet24]

Lets hope you are right, its an important class on the OL. Our evaluations will need to be on point, I'm not sure any of the guys would be considered can't miss guys. We really need to have at least one HS can't miss guy per class. We haven't had one of those in a while.

Yeah me too! I'm cautiously optimistic at this point. I agree with you that none of these are can't miss, but they appear to very solid prospects and a bit on the higher ceiling side than past years. It's absolutely critical that our evals are on.

[HancockCountyDog]

Yeah me too! I'm cautiously optimistic at this point. I agree with you that none of these are can't miss, but they appear to very solid prospects and a bit on the higher ceiling side than past years. It's absolutely critical that our evals are on.

I'll reserve judgment until signing day, but after last year's short comings at OL, on paper I had hoped for more.

[Commercecomet24]

I'll reserve judgment until signing day, but after last year's short comings at OL, on paper I had hoped for more.

Same here, I am cautiously optimistic but waiting to see what signing day brings.

[Irondawg]

I just watch sanogo's video - he's a big guy (at least compared to the guys he was playing against), but he looked a little slow to me

[Really Clark?]

Kylin Hill will be unofficially visiting this weekend to help out. Bowie still states he is coming this weekend. Odom is supposedly coming with his family.

[preachermatt83]

Kylin Hill will be unofficially visiting this weekend to help out. Bowie still states he is coming this weekend. Odom is supposedly coming with his family.

If mom gets her way Odom will b a dawg.

[msstate7]

Pretty sure I've read that montravious Richardson wasn't expected to qualify, but now things look good. Was Richardson's lack of offers in part due to Richardson not looking like a qualifier earlier?

[Really Clark?]

As expected, McMath committed to LSU and they accepted

[msstate7]

What was Charles' big twitter announcement today?

[Really Clark?]

What was Charles' big twitter announcement today?

I think it had to do with the HS Football Network deal they will be doing on him.

[msstate7]

If we do miss on carty and Rhodes, think we go back after dale (OT Memphis commit from kemper co)?

[Todd4State]

If we do miss on carty and Rhodes, think we go back after dale (OT Memphis commit from kemper co)?

Didn't come to camp. So he's SOL.

[Really Clark?]

DD Bowie skipped his game tonight and is already on campus. Hill is with him already. Everybody made it including Odom with his dad

[preachermatt83]

DD Bowie skipped his game tonight and is already on campus. Hill is with him already. Everybody made it including Odom with his dad

:cool:

[msstate7]

DD Bowie skipped his game tonight and is already on campus. Hill is with him already. Everybody made it including Odom with his dad

I hope hill is our closer.

[HoopsDawg]

DD Bowie skipped his game tonight and is already on campus. Hill is with him already. Everybody made it including Odom with his dad

Not sure how I feel about Bowie skipping his basketball game. Is he a starter?

[msstate7]

Delete

[Really Clark?]

Not sure how I feel about Bowie skipping his basketball game. Is he a starter?

There is more to it than just skipping. But let's just let it lay right now and give him a good OV.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Not sure how I feel about Bowie skipping his basketball game. Is he a starter?

No he wasn't a starter but he's not playing anymore.

[Really Clark?]

Bowie brought several family members with him. Reports are he is taking this visit seriously. Long long way to go but showing up serious is a step in the right direction.

[civildawg]

Rumor is he got kicked off his team

[msstate7]

Any word out of Baton Rouge about gay?

[preachermatt83]

Banks is with Bowie and hill now.

[rolodawg]

Where might one find a list of visitors this weekend?

[Goldendawg]

Go to Bulldogs 24/7, click on FB REC at the top of the page, and click on official visits.

[CadaverDawg]

Am I crazy to think that Hunt & Gainer would be solid commitments to have on board right now considering we can't land any WR or OL replacements?

That's why I either don't buy that we "mutually" parted ways, or else our coaches are just morons for letting them go before having a backup plan. And before you tell me "they weren't good players"....I bet having a 3 star guard playing tackle would be better than having to convert a TE

[msstate7]

Am I crazy to think that Hunt & Gainer would be solid commitments to have on board right now considering we can't land any WR or OL replacements?

That's why I either don't buy that we "mutually" parted ways, or else our coaches are just morons for letting them go before having a backup plan. And before you tell me "they weren't good players"....I bet having a 3 star guard playing tackle would be better than having to convert a TE

I think we get one of our oline targets left and Bowie or sanders at wr

[Jarius]

For the record, DD wore MSU gear to school yesterday. I know not to put too much into that sort of thing but it is interesting.

[travis]

For the record, DD wore MSU gear to school yesterday. I know not to put too much into that sort of thing but it is interesting.

Hmm. That is interesting. I guess that shows he's at least open to Mississippi State.

[maroonmania]

Hmm. That is interesting. I guess that shows he's at least open to Mississippi State.

Hopefully he's open to being a primary WR option here rather than join the throng of 50 WRs currently on the UNM roster.

[Tupelodawg88]

Kylin Hill tweeted for people to blow up his notifications on twitter with #wewantDD

[HancockCountyDog]

Let's hope Willie is pulling a Leo, because he is telling LSU folks what they want to hear.

[maroonmania]

I just don't get the warm fuzzies about Willie.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

I do

[Vandelay Industries]

Let's hope Willie is pulling a Leo, because he is telling LSU folks what they want to hear.

What is he telling them?

[Doggie_Style]

Clearly Willie G. want's to do the whole drama game where he slelects the hat and all that...who knows

[Bothrops]

Hopefully...hopefully.. we can edge out somebody and get one out of Gay, DD, Lenoir, Carty, Rhodes, or Ellis. Maybe, just maybe one of these guys can make a good decision.

[msstate7]

Hopefully...hopefully.. we can edge out somebody and get one out of Gay, DD, Lenoir, Carty, Rhodes, or Ellis. Maybe, just maybe one of these guys can make a good decision.

Are we still in it with Ellis?

[Leroy Jenkins]

Clearly Willie G. want's to do the whole drama game where he slelects the hat and all that...who knows

http://i.imgur.com/ABtwP3k.gif

[Ari Gold]

We are having a very good weekend..

[msstate7]

We are having a very good weekend..

I think very good would have include 2 of Bowie, Rhodes, and Odom. I'd take that in a heartbeat

[Bothrops]

Are we still in it with Ellis?

He's supposed to be visiting next weekend now.

[msstate7]

He's supposed to be visiting next weekend now.
Good deal. Wait, Noah or the Florida kid?

[Bothrops]

We are having a very good weekend..

Glad to hear this

[Bothrops]

Good deal. Wait, Noah or the Florida kid?

Noah the DT

[CadaverDawg]

We are having a very good weekend..

Positive recruiting news for MSU in January?....

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/06/I-dont-believe-you.gif

I want to believe it...but I'm no longer able to make myself.

[maroonmania]

We are having a very good weekend..

Well the proof will be in the pudding so to speak.

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

Odom had to leave early. His sister went into labor. That was the story. I hope it's true. Leaving early was not in Mullen's plans I'm sure. I'm assuming we could make up the time we were supposed to get as I think there is a certain number of hours a recruit can stay on campus during his official. Not sure if that happens if so though.

[HoopsDawg]

Odom had to leave early. His sister went into labor. That was the story. I hope it's true. Leaving early was not in Mullen's plans I'm sure. I'm assuming we could make up the time we were supposed to get as I think there is a certain number of hours a recruit can stay on campus during his official. Not sure if that happens if so though.

Odom would be nice but I really want Rhodes. I think he has a lot of upside as a OT.

[msstate7]

Scanning the lsu boards, it appears they're more confident on gay than we are. Hopefully they're wrong

[Todd4State]

Scanning the lsu boards, it appears they're more confident on gay than we are. Hopefully they're wrong

LSU fans are more confident than us in general on everything.

[maroonmania]

Scanning the lsu boards, it appears they're more confident on gay than we are. Hopefully they're wrong

That shouldn't take much confidence to be at that level. While Gay is a huge target for us he hasn't personally ever done anything to really give MSU fans any reason to be confident about him. Even going back to the time we thought he was committing to us and turned around and committed to the Plantation. He has never named us a leader and has always had some other school he is showing love (UNM, Michigan, LSU). Now its true that Kobe Jones did some of the same but he never committed to another school and he was not nearly as sought after as Gay is.

[msstate7]

God forbid it, but if we miss on gay, LB recruiting may be our biggest whiff this year. In a 3-4, you gotta have LBs and I only see 1 juco (if you consider sweat olb) and 1 HS (dunning)

[CadaverDawg]

Let's face it, regardless of what happens with Gay, we failed to capitalize on the momentum of our strong finish over OM, their troubles, and our 7th straight bowl. If we couldn't close a few OL, WR, & LB with Key, Kylin, & Grantham coming in...we just suck at crootin and it may not ever get better. Good thing we develop better than most programs in the country.

[msstate7]

Let's face it, regardless of what happens with Gay, we failed to capitalize on the momentum of our strong finish over OM, their troubles, and our 7th straight bowl. If we couldn't close a few OL, WR, & LB with Key, Kylin, & Grantham coming in...we just suck at crootin and it may not ever get better. Good thing we develop better than most programs in the country.

People that know much more than me feel good about Bowie, gay, and Rhodes. Hopefully they're right. That would be a pretty good pull at the end

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Scanning the lsu boards, it appears they're more confident on gay than we are. Hopefully they're wrong

Did you follow Jamal Peters recruitment?

[msstate7]

Did you follow Jamal Peters recruitment?

Yep. I'm not saying they'll get em... just stated they're confident

[msstate7]

Thomas Johnston getting CB'd to om now. Their class isn't very good, but they're really addressing the hole at LB. I hope the NCAA issues hugh's show cause before next season bc if a few of these LBs work out they may be much improved

[msbulldog]

Hail State! We'll be ok!

[msstate7]

Kylin hill says Bowie a dawg

[HancockCountyDog]

Kylin hill says Bowie a dawg

Let's see if he visits OM next weekend. If he doesn't, you have to feel real good, if he visits....

[Bothrops]

He's still got to go to OM next weekend.

[msstate7]

Yeah, hopefully Bowie doesn't visit OM. Apparently they still have a little pixie dust for their visits... they seem to have had a good weekend

[Bothrops]

He'll be there, and you're likely correct about the pixie dust. They don't care.

[msstate7]

Any word on bulovas?

[Bdawg]

Any word on bulovas?

Bulovas is one of the biggest recruits to me because a kicker will score more points than anyone. Really hope he comes now that Graves is gone.

[maroonmania]

Bulovas is one of the biggest recruits to me because a kicker will score more points than anyone. Really hope he comes now that Graves is gone.

Agreed. Not that you can expect a FG kicker to make every kick but last year we had 2 games that we lost (USA, BYU) where a missed Graves FG was the difference in the game. That would have taken us from 5-7 to 7-5 even with our lousy defense.

[msstate7]

Check out this quote I saw on lsu site...

"Willie Gay was there, which was cool. I've been with him a bunch. He told me last night his top two are LSU and Michigan. I feel pretty strong about Willie. He's always joked with me that he was going to come with me and be a Tiger."

-Myles Brennan

[Bdawg]

Check out this quote I saw on lsu site...

"Willie Gay was there, which was cool. I've been with him a bunch. He told me last night his top two are LSU and Michigan. I feel pretty strong about Willie. He's always joked with me that he was going to come with me and be a Tiger."

-Myles Brennan

We are pathetic IF that is true.

[CadaverDawg]

Check out this quote I saw on lsu site...

"Willie Gay was there, which was cool. I've been with him a bunch. He told me last night his top two are LSU and Michigan. I feel pretty strong about Willie. He's always joked with me that he was going to come with me and be a Tiger."

-Myles Brennan

Unreal.

[msstate7]

We are pathetic IF that is true.

No idea if it's true. Just copied a poster's message

[Bdawg]

Agreed. Not that you can expect a FG kicker to make every kick but last year we had 2 games that we lost (USA, BYU) where a missed Graves FG was the difference in the game. That would have taken us from 5-7 to 7-5 even with our lousy defense.

Yep. Just makes me think back to the LSU game in '15 too. Would be nice to have that spot locked up for 4 years with an all american. Man I really didn't want to think about that LSU game again!!

[Big4Dawg]

Check out this quote I saw on lsu site...

"Willie Gay was there, which was cool. I've been with him a bunch. He told me last night his top two are LSU and Michigan. I feel pretty strong about Willie. He's always joked with me that he was going to come with me and be a Tiger."

-Myles Brennan

I'll be mad but I bet we did all we could. He ether wanted to stay in Starkville or not. Looks like he doesn't want too

[msstate7]

I'll be mad but I bet we did all we could. He ether wanted to stay in Starkville or not. Looks like he doesn't want too

Apparently that quote originated from tigerbait.com. Who knows though it's a Myles Brennan quote, not willie gay. Hopefully Kobe Jones has more of willie's ear than an extremely overrated qb from the coast

[msstate7]

If gay does go lsu, what is our backup plan? Shouldn't we be getting more LBs regardless of what gay does? In a 3-4, seems you should add LBs in every class.

[Bothrops]

It may be too late to land another LB that could play in the SEC. I expect Gay to LSU, and have for a little while. Otherwise he's trolling the hell out of them, which is too good to be true.

[bobcat91]

Some of y'all really have zero to do in life. If every player that told someone that he was going..... the Cam Newton would be a Dawg. I've never seen Gay say ....... Why don't we wait and see.

[Cooterpoot]

Brennan sucks. He's never going to play, so there's no way Willie could play with him again.

[Ari Gold]

What did everyone expect WG to say.? "My visit to LSU sucks."
Everyone RELAX. It will be all good come NSD.

[GTHOM]

Myles Brennan is poo

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

No idea if it's true. Just copied a poster's message

And where was this poster posting?

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

You mean like Jamal Peters did?

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Looks like things might be trending for the good guys with Rhodes.

[msstate7]

And where was this poster posting?

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/lsu-recruiting/brennan-recruiting/68303869/

[CadaverDawg]

What did everyone expect WG to say.? "My visit to LSU sucks."
Everyone RELAX. It will be all good come NSD.

"My final 2 are LSU and MSU"....or, "my final 3 are LSU, Michigan, & MSU"....or, "my final 100 are _________________ and MSU". Everyone expected him to include MSU.

What does he have to gain by leaving MSU out? Is he ashamed of saying MSU? If so, why would he choose us? Is he trying to build drama? If so, wouldn't including us still build drama? Also, if these kids leaving us out of their finalist lists or committing to other teams & then decommitting is some strategy to build drama, our coaches need to inform them that they're only hurting our chances at a few other top recruits gaining interest in MSU by them leaving us out or never mentioning us or waiting to commit. See Kylin Hill & how he's trying to help add talent around him....Gay could/should be doing the same if you guys are right & he is coming to State (which I will believe when I see it).

It's just that everything about our recruiting is simply out of sync...even with the good ones we actually get, we fail to capitalize on their commitment like most schools do. It's aggravating and we seem to be doing nothing to fix it. Same shit every year.

[KB21]

Just to remind you:

http://www.nola.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2015/02/leo_lewis_appears_to_be_headed.html

[msstate7]

Just to remind you:

http://www.nola.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2015/02/leo_lewis_appears_to_be_headed.html

I will say though that Leo let it be known we were in it. Again though, Brennan or lsu writers could be changing willie's quote up

[maroonmania]

"My final 2 are LSU and MSU"....or, "my final 3 are LSU, Michigan, & MSU"....or, "my final 100 are _________________ and MSU". Everyone expected him to include MSU.

What does he have to gain by leaving MSU out? Is he ashamed of saying MSU? If so, why would he choose us? Is he trying to build drama? If so, wouldn't including us still build drama? Also, if these kids leaving us out of their finalist lists or committing to other teams & then decommitting is some strategy to build drama, our coaches need to inform them that they're only hurting our chances at a few other top recruits gaining interest in MSU by them leaving us out or never mentioning us or waiting to commit. See Kylin Hill & how he's trying to help add talent around him....Gay could/should be doing the same if you guys are right & he is coming to State (which I will believe when I see it).

It's just that everything about our recruiting is simply out of sync...even with the good ones we actually get, we fail to capitalize on their commitment like most schools do. It's aggravating and we seem to be doing nothing to fix it. Same shit every year.

My thoughts exactly. Is it somehow just not cool for a top recruit to mention that MSU is among his favorites?

[Perpetual Underachiever]

Looks like things might be trending for the good guys with Rhodes.

I just read Steve's article on scout about his visit, and I'm impressed with this kid. He is at a much needed position, appears very intelligent, and was blown away on his visit... we better be in a full-court press with this kid now! He'd be a YUUUGE addition to this class.

[CadaverDawg]

My thoughts exactly. Is it somehow just not cool for a top recruit to mention that MSU is among his favorites?

Definitely appears that way. Also appears that if they visit anywhere after us, we usually don't get them. Do we even ask them for a commitment before they leave? Everybody else does apparently. Terrible closers...could you imagine making a sales pitch for a product you're selling and then saying "well look, just think about it and call me if you want to buy from me"? Heeeeell no, you ask for a commitment to purchase RIGHT THEN while their interest is at an all time high. We need a sales person to talk to our staff or something. This shit gets old

[PSYCHO(thesis)DEFENSE]

if I begin to melt over a third hand quote of a fourth hand quote somebody convince me to check out til february. leaving br uncommitted has to be considered a win.

[CadaverDawg]

if I begin to melt over a third hand quote of a fourth hand quote somebody convince me to check out til february. leaving br uncommitted has to be considered a win.

I agree, and I think we may very well get Gay...I'm just complaining about our overall lack of good execution when it comes to recruiting in the SEC.

[Todd4State]

"My final 2 are LSU and MSU"....or, "my final 3 are LSU, Michigan, & MSU"....or, "my final 100 are _________________ and MSU". Everyone expected him to include MSU.

What does he have to gain by leaving MSU out? Is he ashamed of saying MSU? If so, why would he choose us? Is he trying to build drama? If so, wouldn't including us still build drama? Also, if these kids leaving us out of their finalist lists or committing to other teams & then decommitting is some strategy to build drama, our coaches need to inform them that they're only hurting our chances at a few other top recruits gaining interest in MSU by them leaving us out or never mentioning us or waiting to commit. See Kylin Hill & how he's trying to help add talent around him....Gay could/should be doing the same if you guys are right & he is coming to State (which I will believe when I see it).

It's just that everything about our recruiting is simply out of sync...even with the good ones we actually get, we fail to capitalize on their commitment like most schools do. It's aggravating and we seem to be doing nothing to fix it. Same shit every year.

I think we need a mix of Kylin Hill's and Leo Lewis. I think we need a few of the talented guys like Hill that are the "leaders" of the class and talk up MSU and help recruit guys. Dan likes to make a big deal out of the commitments at BDC which I think is great and he should keep doing that. Players like Hill that sign early are also good for making a splash in December which I anticipate will be the case when they approve an early NSD. What I would like to see us do much more often is have coordinated hat ceremonies for our prospects that go to the National All-Star Games like the Army AA and UA Game. Even if it's planned and us more connected message board warrior fans know it's coming I think it does help with overall momentum because fans see that on TV and get excited about it. It also makes a statement to the guys that write for the National Recruiting Web Sites when they see all of those MSU hats on the table and players choosing us because I think that may cause them to write more positive stories about MSU and they may look at and rate some of our players higher which also helps with perception. I think Ole Miss is good at that and I think that is part of the reason why they got a lot of pub for some of their recent classes. Dan doesn't seem to want to fool with that. I think it would also lessen some of the fall out from the "drops" later in the process although it does appear as if we are second in the SEC in decommits right now which I think is part of what you are talking about. We have also gotten a few commits late in the process on NSD like Leo, Chris Jones, and Simmons and I think we should keep doing that as well.

Basically they need to do more to make a splash between the second week of December and NSD.

[maroonmania]

I think we need a mix of Kylin Hill's and Leo Lewis. I think we need a few of the talented guys like Hill that are the "leaders" of the class and talk up MSU and help recruit guys. Dan likes to make a big deal out of the commitments at BDC which I think is great and he should keep doing that. Players like Hill that sign early are also good for making a splash in December which I anticipate will be the case when they approve an early NSD. What I would like to see us do much more often is have coordinated hat ceremonies for our prospects that go to the National All-Star Games like the Army AA and UA Game. Even if it's planned and us more connected message board warrior fans know it's coming I think it does help with overall momentum because fans see that on TV and get excited about it. It also makes a statement to the guys that write for the National Recruiting Web Sites when they see all of those MSU hats on the table and players choosing us because I think that may cause them to write more positive stories about MSU and they may look at and rate some of our players higher which also helps with perception. I think Ole Miss is good at that and I think that is part of the reason why they got a lot of pub for some of their recent classes. Dan doesn't seem to want to fool with that. I think it would also lessen some of the fall out from the "drops" later in the process although it does appear as if we are second in the SEC in decommits right now which I think is part of what you are talking about. We have also gotten a few commits late in the process on NSD like Leo, Chris Jones, and Simmons and I think we should keep doing that as well.

Basically they need to do more to make a splash between the second week of December and NSD.

Dan Mullen is a very good football coach but he and a lot of our staff truly fail at salesmanship. But it all flows from the top. Seriously, if you took Dan away from football coaching and put him running a car dealership, the whole enterprise would go belly up in less than a year.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Let's see how the story ends before we say that the book sucks.

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

I get why the message board narrative of Dan being a bad recruiter gets beat to death. I do. But other then OL, I don't see an area where we have underachieved. Some say received right now but if Todd and Couch produce on the field like practice that is wrong too. I will give you two examples of where I see Dan overachieved no matter what the narrative says.

1. Nick Fitzgerald- the day this kid committed, a lot of us, myself included, said "who". At Big Dawg camp that year I saw a raw athlete with a big arm. No if we all be honest here, at this point in his career he is ahead of Dak. Yes he has a ways to go but he is now. I haven't personally witnessed a runner at this position this talented since Don Smith. Dan saw something in him that not many did and I don't see one QB in the SEC I would trade Fitz for head up. Let's just hope he works as hard this offseason as Dak always did.

2. AJ Brown- I don't think Dan was ever that interested for a couple of reasons. I said his entire senior season he was an incredible athlete with limited receiver skills and this season at Ole Miss didn't change my opinion. Everyone had to have the kid but even his coaches at SHS told me he was a head case with a bad attitude and a very high opinion of himself. He could be one of the best receivers in the SEC but unless his attitude changes he will be a flop. And playing with that crybaby qb he has it's not gonna improve. This was one of dans best recruiting jobs and most don't even realize it. When the NCAA is through at Ole Miss. you will see why

[KB21]

I get why the message board narrative of Dan being a bad recruiter gets beat to death. I do. But other then OL, I don't see an area where we have underachieved. Some say received right now but if Todd and Couch produce on the field like practice that is wrong too. I will give you two examples of where I see Dan overachieved no matter what the narrative says.

1. Nick Fitzgerald- the day this kid committed, a lot of us, myself included, said "who". At Big Dawg camp that year I saw a raw athlete with a big arm. No if we all be honest here, at this point in his career he is ahead of Dak. Yes he has a ways to go but he is now. I haven't personally witnessed a runner at this position this talented since Don Smith. Dan saw something in him that not many did and I don't see one QB in the SEC I would trade Fitz for head up. Let's just hope he works as hard this offseason as Dak always did.

2. AJ Brown- I don't think Dan was ever that interested for a couple of reasons. I said his entire senior season he was an incredible athlete with limited receiver skills and this season at Ole Miss didn't change my opinion. Everyone had to have the kid but even his coaches at SHS told me he was a head case with a bad attitude and a very high opinion of himself. He could be one of the best receivers in the SEC but unless his attitude changes he will be a flop. And playing with that crybaby qb he has it's not gonna improve. This was one of dans best recruiting jobs and most don't even realize it. When the NCAA is through at Ole Miss. you will see why

Evaluating high school talent and projecting it to the college level is as much of an inexact science as evaluating college talent and projecting it to the NFL level is. The fact of the matter is, this coaching staff does a pretty damn good job (better than most) when it comes to actually evaluating the talent it recruits and how that talent projects to the college level. Look at the 2011 class. That class was rated 35th in the country, but it produced Dak Prescott, Bernardrick McKinney, Taveze Calhoun, Justin Malone, Josh Robinson, Darius Slay, and Preston Smith.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

I see that Paul Jones and Robbie Faulk have changed their CB's to MSU for Bowie.

[KB21]

Bulovas just decommited from Georgia Tech.

[HoopsDawg]

Bulovas just decommited from Georgia Tech.

Thank goodness. Dude is our kicker next year.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Bulovas just decommited from Georgia Tech.

Yes sir!!! https://twitter.com/JosephBulovas9/status/823581287046909959

[Jarius]

Rosebowl still thinks Bowie goes to ole miss

[preachermatt83]

Yes sir!!! https://twitter.com/JosephBulovas9/status/823581287046909959

Huge!!!!!!!!

[Bdawg]

Bulovas just decommited from Georgia Tech.

Sounds like great news for us. Didn't he just visit them too? I consider this guy one of the biggest targets(on a level with Willie). Hope we land him.

[msstate7]

Getting bulovas and day are gonna drop us in the recruiting rankings, but make us a better football team. So when you look at the final rankings remember that one of the best kickers and punters in the country actually dropped our ranking?

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Idgaf about rankings, we needed specialist and looks like we're going to pull it off. Bonliol (sp?) is making an impact with his connections in the kicking community.

[Dawgtini]

And hopefully we can get the long snapper who visited this weekend as well. Specialist trifecta

[Bothrops]

This is good news fo sho

[bulldog2488]

Anybody know where we stand with Bowie after the weekend? Sorry if I missed this in a previous thread.

[preachermatt83]

Anybody know where we stand with Bowie after the weekend? Sorry if I missed this in a previous thread.

Went from 80/20 OM to 60/40 OM from everything I've been told. Would be 50/50 except for OM getting the last visit.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Went from 80/20 OM to 60/40 OM from everything I've been told. Would be 50/50 except for OM getting the last visit.

I'd say 60/40 MSU as of today.

[bulldog2488]

I'd say 60/40 MSU as of today.

I'd take those odds over where we stood a few months ago. Think he will still visit OM this weekend?

[preachermatt83]

I'd say 60/40 MSU as of today.

OM getting in his head this weekend worries me. I'm sure hoping we get him.

[preachermatt83]

I'd take those odds over where we stood a few months ago. Think he will still visit OM this weekend?

He's visiting OM this weekend. Yes.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

OM getting in his head this weekend worries me. I'm sure hoping we get him.

The thing behind that logic is if it was that easy he would've never visited MSU to begin with. Trust me they tried & tried to get him not to visit.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

The thing behind that logic is if it was that easy he would've never visited MSU to begin with. Trust me they tried & tried to get him not to visit.

Are we recruiting him as a WR or CB?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Are we recruiting him as a WR or CB?

I'm sure he'll start out at WR.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

I'm sure he'll start out at WR.

If that's what he wants to play, we should have a leg (hind) up on OM with WR depth. Is that what is making him consider MSU?

[Todd4State]

If that's what he wants to play, we should have a leg (hind) up on OM with WR depth. Is that what is making him consider MSU?

Probation is making him highly consider us. That and Treadwell knowing three pass routes.

[Cooterpoot]

OM isn't going to allow Bowie to flip. He might hat fake us, but they can't let their only bragging point flip. Too much OM influence around him.

[Bothrops]

I'm hearing Bama is in the game with Bulovas now. What gives...

[Bothrops]

OM isn't going to allow Bowie to flip. He might hat fake us, but they can't let their only bragging point flip. Too much OM influence around him.

I agree, that last visit is a killer. We may figure out recruiting some day.

[maroonmania]

I agree, that last visit is a killer. We may figure out recruiting some day.

Apparently that mostly applies to us. Got the visit with Odom AFTER he visited and committed to Louisville but doesn't seem to have helped much. Of course we don't seem to come out of these weekends with any commitments to speak of. Guess we got none this weekend.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Why wouldn't Bama be interested? However, they signed a kid last year that kicks 70-yarders. Bulovas won't pick them.

[msstate7]

Why wouldn't Bama be interested? However, they signed a kid last year that kicks 70-yarders. Bulovas won't pick them.

I don't know... bama offered last night and he de-committed today

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

I thought a Latin kicker that made all the youtube videos of his 70-yarders signed with Bama last year. I don't see him listed in their commits though.

[msstate7]

I thought a Latin kicker that made all the youtube videos of his 70-yarders signed with Bama last year. I don't see him listed in their commits though.

1 senior (Griffith) and 1 junior (pappanastos) on roster

[Bothrops]

Bama will literally barricade all roads travelled by Bulovas to lead him into Tuscaloosa.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

I thought a Latin kicker that made all the youtube videos of his 70-yarders signed with Bama last year. I don't see him listed in their commits though.
Swapped to ASU I think

[Irondawg]

Have to hope our engineering school, a guaranteed starting job, A former NFL kicking coach and his relationship with Day are enough

[HancockCountyDog]

Bears lost out on Spanish Fort kid to UAB. Do they still have a program?

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Bears lost out on Spanish Fort kid to UAB. Do they still have a program?

Hahahaha let's all point and laugh

[msstate7]

Bears lost out on Spanish Fort kid to UAB. Do they still have a program?

Did Johnston have an offer?

[Bothrops]

Bears lost out on Spanish Fort kid to UAB. Do they still have a program?

Yes, they start back this year, and our recruiters better take notice!

[msstate7]

What are we recruiting Denzel Houston as and does he have a firm offer?

[CadaverDawg]

What are we recruiting Denzel Houston as and does he have a firm offer?

He's an "athlete", but will be either a CB or WR most likely. I'm thinking WR since his host was a WR. The way I understand it, he doesn't have an offer as of right now, but could soon if numbers work out. Not sure how numbers couldn't work out, considering we never sign a full class and our entire 2013 class is gone basically. We should have plenty of room.

[KB21]

Deommodore Lenoir has Mississippi State in his top 3. Hopefully, he notices the NFL corners that Mississippi State has produced vs Nebraska and Oregon.

[HoopsDawg]

Deommodore Lenoir has Mississippi State in his top 3. Hopefully, he notices the NFL corners that Mississippi State has produced vs Nebraska and Oregon.

My guess is we take Houston if we miss on Lenoir.

[msstate7]

Willie gay CB'd to lsu again. For the first time, we trail lsu in CBs. Since '16 turned to '17, CBs are 13-0 lsu

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Houston it is

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Willie gay CB'd to lsu again. For the first time, we trail lsu in CBs. Since '16 turned to '17, CBs are 13-0 lsu

Please for your sake stop watching the Crystal Balls.

[SouthMSDog]

Please for your sake stop watching the Crystal Balls.

^ This. Listen to Dan on this one.

[msstate7]

Please for your sake stop watching the Crystal Balls.

Haha... I'm sure you're right, but it does seem everyone save us has gay to lsu. There was a quote (granted it was 3rd hand) that stated gay said it was Michigan or lsu. I'm not even melting... I got my yearly recruiting melt in a week ago, so I'm good now. I just find it interesting no one outside our sites feels we get gay

[Bothrops]

The media saying Michigan is #2 with Gay gives me a little hope for us. They are so Anti-MSU they simply can't see the forest for the trees.

[Tripp McNeely]

Haha... I'm sure you're right, but it does seem everyone save us has gay to lsu. There was a quote (granted it was 3rd hand) that stated gay said it was Michigan or lsu. I'm not even melting... I got my yearly recruiting melt in a week ago, so I'm good now. I just find it interesting no one outside our sites feels we get gay

I'd pay more attention to who's still recruiting LBs...plural...other than Willie (obviously)

[maroonmania]

Haha... I'm sure you're right, but it does seem everyone save us has gay to lsu. There was a quote (granted it was 3rd hand) that stated gay said it was Michigan or lsu. I'm not even melting... I got my yearly recruiting melt in a week ago, so I'm good now. I just find it interesting no one outside our sites feels we get gay

I think at this point its pretty safe to say that either Gay is trolling us or trolling everyone else. Its one or the other.

[msstate7]

Looked it up and OOS tuition for engineering program at bama is $25,950 per year. If bulovas chooses to pay that over a free ride here, I'll be surprised.

[msstate7]

I think at this point its pretty safe to say that either Gay is trolling us or trolling everyone else. Its one or the other.

Yep. I am a little concerned considering gay pulled the okie doke on our coaches 1 time already with the om commitment

[Bothrops]

I don't look for him to pick us, but if he does I'll be ecstatic.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Looked it up and OOS tuition for engineering program at bama is $25,950 per year. If bulovas chooses to pay that over a free ride here, I'll be surprised.

If Bama wants him that bad, Saban can probably find $25,950 under his car seats and sofa cushions. That ain't nothing.

[HancockCountyDog]

I don't look for him to pick us, but if he does I'll be ecstatic.

I keep hearing good things on Gay from people that should know.

Of course those same people told me Lashlsy was a done deal and that we had no shot at Simmons. So......

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C29bUUIWQAAxqmg.jpg:large

[msstate7]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C29bUUIWQAAxqmg.jpg:large

When was this?

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

When was this?

Today apparently

[bulldawg28]

When was this?

November 2013.....Chill man.

[Really Clark?]

When was this?

Today. They made the rounds to New Hope, Columbus and Starkville.

[Bdawg]

They have hit Hill up today and now Willie!! I don't want to hear anything about "not enough love" if Willie chooses elsewhere!!!

[Bdawg]

Today. They made the rounds to New Hope, Columbus and Starkville.

Who's the new hope target again?

[vv83]

Yeezy game 100 Dan

[Really Clark?]

Who's the new hope target again?

Reed

[msstate7]

November 2013.....Chill man.

I didn't realize that question was freaking out. I was just curious... my apologies

[msbulldog]

Coaches workin! Hail State!

[bulldawg28]

I didn't realize that question was freaking out. I was just curious... my apologies

I'm messing with you.

[CadaverDawg]

Look at Hevesy in that pic, hahaha. He looks like he had Chad Kelly's face photoshopped onto his head

[msstate7]

I'm messing with you.

No playing last 2 weeks of recruiting haha

[msbulldog]

Hail State guys!

[msstate7]

According to sec rant Bama page, Scout reporting bulovas has offer and will OV to Bama this weekend

[bulldawg28]

No playing last 2 weeks of recruiting haha

Are you going to make it?

[msstate7]

Are you going to make it?

50/50**

I'm good. I really like to keep up with it, but I'm calm now. We'll get who we get...

[Irondawg]

According to sec rant Bama page, Scout reporting bulovas has offer and will OV to Bama this weekend

Gotta say this makes me nervous if true.

[msstate7]

Gotta say this makes me nervous if true.

Me too. If bulovas has an offer, I think he's gone.

[Irondawg]

Let's see how it plays out but it must get tiring to work hard on kids, get them one step from the boat and have the Bama's of the world swoop in last minute. It's really why I can't believe the majority of coaches haven't agreed to early signing period

[msstate7]

Let's see how it plays out but it must get tiring to work hard on kids, get them one step from the boat and have the Bama's of the world swoop in last minute. It's really why I can't believe the majority of coaches haven't agreed to early signing period

Well didn't we swoop in late too? If there were an early signing period, bulovas would be at GT

[Really Clark?]

Let's see how it plays out but it must get tiring to work hard on kids, get them one step from the boat and have the Bama's of the world swoop in last minute. It's really why I can't believe the majority of coaches haven't agreed to early signing period

Uh...the coaches have agreed and voted in an early signing period for the NCAA to vote on this spring.

[RezDog7]

Well didn't we swoop in late too? If there were an early signing period, bulovas would be at GT

We have been on Bulovas for several months.

[Irondawg]

Uh...the coaches have agreed and voted in an early signing period for the NCAA to vote on this spring.

I knew they were meeting. I missed that they agreed to a proposal they were sending up for NCAA review. I'll have to go find the details on that.

[Doggie_Style]

We have been on Bulovas for several months.
Pretty much a done deal.... plan B in full effect as this (K) is a huge need

[msstate7]

Pretty much a done deal.... plan B in full effect as this (K) is a huge need

Curious... is day the backup plan at kicker if we miss on bulovas?

[Doggie_Style]

Curious... is day the backup plan at kicker if we miss on bulovas?

My understanding is that plan B includes Adam Williams and maybe one more

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I expect Bulovas to be at MSU

[msstate7]

I expect Bulovas to be at MSU

That's good to hear. I'm gonna ban myself from tRant till after signing day haha

[Really Clark?]

My understanding is that plan B includes Adam Williams and maybe one more

Mason Dillard is another kicker we have recruited. Like where we are right now with Bulovas though.

[Bdawg]

For what it's worth Will Sammon said he didn't expect Bulovis to visit Bama. Just passing on what I read. Who know if they offered a scholly or just want him to walk on. Surely the full ride at MSU trumps a walk on anywhere.

[Commercecomet24]

I'm cautiously optimistic Bulovas will be kicking fgs for the good guys next year!

[Bothrops]

I think so, but I'm worried Bama may make full offer very soon. Saban has done this to us before, albeit with mixed results.

[Commercecomet24]

I think so, but I'm worried Bama may make full offer very soon. Saban has done this to us before, albeit with mixed results.

Yeah you ever know when it comes to bama. I could be wrong but I don't think Saban uses a scholly for a kicker this year.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

I expect Bulovas to be at MSU


Like where we are right now with Bulovas though.

What happened...Bama offer?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

No explanation for this 1. This hurts.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

No explanation for this 1. This hurts.

Not shocking when Bama is sniffing around....you should be numb to it by now. I guess at least they had to give him a scholarship to sign him.

[civildawg]

Pretty sure he got a Bama offer from the looks of it.

[defiantdog]

Pretty sure he got a Bama offer from the looks of it.

No..... he still doesn't have a scholarship offer. He might be taking a preferred walk-on or a blue shirt in this case.

[civildawg]

No..... he still doesn't have a scholarship offer. He might be taking a preferred walk-on or a blue shirt in this case.

well according to his tweet. He is on scholarship so either he is lying or you dont know what's going on.

[defiantdog]

well according to his tweet. He is on scholarship so either he is lying or you dont know what's going on.
I'm pretty sure he'll get one eventually, but he doesn't have one right now. Why would he say that he is committed to Alabama, but has to wait a semester or a year to get his scholarship? When he can just say that he'll play on scholarship. Lay off the twitter dude.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Has he even visited Bama?

[ShotgunDawg]

Has he even visited Bama?

Not officially

[Really Clark?]

What happened...Bama offer?

I don't know but am very surprised and he was suppose met with our staff tonight before making any type of descision, what I was told and led to believe that only a full offer at Bama would make things difficult. From him to our staff.

[Commercecomet24]

I don't know but am very surprised and he was suppose met with our staff tonight before making any type of descision, what I was told and led to believe that only a full offer at Bama would make things difficult. From him to our staff.

THIS^^^^

[civildawg]

I'm pretty sure he'll get one eventually, but he doesn't have one right now. Why would he say that he is committed to Alabama, but has to wait a semester or a year to get his scholarship? When he can just say that he'll play on scholarship. Lay off the twitter dude.

I have no idea what the frick you are talking about. He says he will be on scholarship at Bama, you dont know if it's an offer now or later. Only he does.

[Irondawg]

Saban must have given him the 1-day deadline to decide or the allure of kicking in championships was too much so the acceptance was immediate. What stinks is Saban decides he wants a kicker a week before signing day and spends two days of effort and lands the guy he wants.

[Really Clark?]

For those debating the offer, am told Alabama gave him a full offer yesterday. Not a gray or blue shirt.

[Doggie_Style]

Mason Dillard is another kicker we have recruited. Like where we are right now with Bulovas though.

So Adam Williams, Mason Dillard.....any other possibilities?

[sandwolf]

Lay off the twitter dude.

So you think the best approach to getting good information is to ignore the absolute best source that there is on the subject?

[defiantdog]

For those debating the offer, am told Alabama gave him a full offer yesterday. Not a gray or blue shirt.
By who?

[MetEdDawg]

So Adam Williams, Mason Dillard.....any other possibilities?

Seen Dillard in person. Kicked a 44 yarder against us and it looked like it would have been good from 50. Metro Bham schools are starting to produce some kickers. Lot of them have been getting good D1 scholarships recently

[Mjoelner34]

By who?

Bama's Scout.com site shows him with an offer and committed.

[Really Clark?]

By who?

Our side and Bama side is saying the same. If it's wrong that's just what I'm told. Our staff is not happy and blindsided by what he had been telling us and the moves we made to make this work for all involved.

Anyway moving on...

[defiantdog]

Bama's Scout.com site shows him with an offer and committed.
The Bama administration was blindsided by this too. They didn't expect him to commit on what they offered. He doesn't have a full ride..... he took whatever offer they gave him. Also, Bama doesn't talk to their journalists like MS schools do. So take what they say with a grain of salt.

[msstate7]

I hope our confidence on gay isn't coming from the same sources that thought bulovas would be here

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I hope our confidence on gay isn't coming from the same sources that thought bulovas would be here

Lol I hate to see a fellow Philadelphian agonizing so much. Just take a few days off.

[msstate7]

Lol I hate to see a fellow Philadelphian agonizing so much. Just take a few days off.

I CAN'T!!!!!! Give me gay or give me death! Haha

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Our side and Bama side is saying the same. If it's wrong that's just what I'm told. Our staff is not happy and blindsided by what he had been telling us and the moves we made to make this work for all involved.

Anyway moving on...

A GT poster on the SEC Rant recruiting board predicted this after he decommitted. Apparently he was open with their staff that if Bama, UF, or LSU offered he was gone.

[msstate7]

A GT poster on the SEC Rant recruiting board predicted this after he decommitted. Apparently he was open with their staff that if Bama, UF, or LSU offered he was gone.

Yep. Said it when everyone was predicting us on CBs.

[Ari Gold]

I will go ahead and give my NSD predictions.
Gay
Bowie
Odom
Houston
Rhodes
Cooper
Houston
And best available. Going strong here and saying Clyde.

And if this happens don't worry about the numbers.. we will make room if need be ..

[msstate7]

I will go ahead and give my NSD predictions.
Gay
Bowie
Odom
Houston
Rhodes
Cooper
Houston
And best available. Going strong here and saying Clyde.

And if this happens don't worry about the numbers.. we will make room if need be ..

Sounds good. Who are cooper and Clyde?

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Geezus bro...based on your comments here, it seems you follow recruiting pretty close. "Who are Cooper and Clyde?"

[msstate7]

Geezus bro...based on your comments here, it seems you follow recruiting pretty close. "Who are Cooper and Clyde?"

Yeah, I was thinking Clyde last name... forgot RB. I had completely written Clyde off, thus formatted him in my brain. Cooper... I'm drawing a blank.

[maroonmania]

I hope our confidence on gay isn't coming from the same sources that thought bulovas would be here

No matter what Gay does nobody here should be "shocked". If a guy is not willing to go public to you prior to signing day but is telling you "I'm coming", to me that still has to be taken with a grain of salt until he signs the papers. The "recruiting game" is pretty much over at this point. There is no reason not to go public if you know what you want to do.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Dak's high school ring a bell?

[msstate7]

Dak's high school ring a bell?

Thanks. Recruiting putting some wear and tear on me.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

I will go ahead and give my NSD predictions.
Gay
Bowie
Odom
Houston
Rhodes
Cooper
Houston
And best available. Going strong here and saying Clyde.

And if this happens don't worry about the numbers.. we will make room if need be ..

Any Kickers left on the board or we going with Day?

[Really Clark?]

Any Kickers left on the board or we going with Day?

Maybe no scholarship kickers have to see. Williams already had a perferred walk on offer

[dawgday166]

Thanks. Recruiting putting some wear and tear on me.

Bruh ... I'm concerned you may be on the verge of a nervous breakdown here ****

[msstate7]

Bruh ... I'm concerned you may be on the verge of a nervous breakdown here ****

Pray for me**

[dawgday166]

Pray for me**

LOL ... I've started already ****

Trying to get in touch with Freezus since he has more pull with the big guy upstairs ****

[maroonmania]

Pray for me**

Well just hang on through this cycle. I'm thinking by next year our men's basketball team will be good enough that we can finally focus more on basketball than recruiting during this time of year. I can appreciate what the WBB team is doing but just not enough into a women's sport for it to distract from mediocre recruiting.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

This guy is visiting this weekend. (http://247sports.com/Player/William-Green-88041) Looks like a stud DT/OT.

[Really Clark?]

This guy is visiting this weekend. (http://247sports.com/Player/William-Green-88041) Looks like a stud DT/OT.

Sign and place guy and plays with Richardson

[defiantdog]

Maybe no scholarship kickers have to see. Williams already had a perferred walk on offer

We'll have a scholarship kicker by NSD. We can't get away with giving out half scholarships for quality guys like other schools.

[Irondawg]

Any idea if Day should be nervous about his offer? Assume part of the reason he got his was to help. Ring in Bulovas

[preachermatt83]

Any idea if Day should be nervous about his offer? Assume part of the reason he got his was to help. Ring in Bulovas

Absolutely not, he is the best punter in America and one of the best in the last several years. He can kick to if we need him too.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

We'll have a scholarship kicker by NSD. We can't get away with giving out half scholarships for quality guys like other schools.

I think Adam Williams will come without a scholarship.

[msstate7]

I think Adam Williams will come without a scholarship.

http://kohlskicking.com/profile/adam-williams/22726/

According to kohlskicking, he's better punter than kicker. Is day definitely out of consideration for kicking duties?