Recruiting 2017

[preachermatt83]

How did Guidry end up at McNeese St. out of high school?

I'm not gonna bash the kid but he fits somewhere like that better than LSU in my opinion. He has the size and speed but he has a lonnnnggg way to go as an Sec receiver.

[louisvilledawg]

I'm not gonna bash the kid but he fits somewhere like that better than LSU in my opinion. He has the size and speed but he has a lonnnnggg way to go as an Sec receiver.

"I'm not gonna bash the kid, but hold on cause I'm about to bash the kid"

haha

[Ari Gold]

A Mother ****ing Bold Gold prediction... we will flip 3 of these commits
D.D. Bowie - Umiss
Stephen Guidry - LSU
Clyde Edwards Helarie - LSU
Joseph Bulvoas - Ga Tech
Obinna Eze- Memphis

[ShotgunDawg]

A Mother ****ing Bold Gold prediction... we will flip 3 of these commits
D.D. Bowie - Umiss
Stephen Guidry - LSU
Clyde Edwards Helarie - LSU
Joseph Bulvoas - Ga Tech
Obinna Eze- Memphis

https://media.giphy.com/media/3osxY7DwbbN45fE5i0/giphy.gif

[vv83]

A Mother ****ing Bold Gold prediction... we will flip 3 of these commits
D.D. Bowie - Umiss
Stephen Guidry - LSU
Clyde Edwards Helarie - LSU
Joseph Bulvoas - Ga Tech
Obinna Eze- Memphis

Obinna Eze holy shit that would be a massive flip for us

[ShotgunDawg]

Obinna Eze holy shit that would be a massive flip for us

Is this guy a qualifier?

How could Memphis land a player like this?

[1bigdawg]

Is this guy a qualifier?

How could Memphis land a player like this?

This was his first year of football and Memphis was the first to push for a commitment.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

This was his first year of football and Memphis was the first to push for a commitment.

Kinda small aint he? NVM I was thinking about someone else..

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

I believe those 3 will be Joseph Bulovas, Stephen Guidry and D.D Bowie.

I think there may be more than 3.

[msstate7]

I believe those 3 will be Joseph Bulovas, Stephen Guidry and D.D Bowie.

I think there may be more than 3.

I'll take it. Make it happen

[jumbo]

A Mother ****ing Bold Gold prediction... we will flip 3 of these commits
D.D. Bowie - Umiss
Stephen Guidry - LSU
Clyde Edwards Helarie - LSU
Joseph Bulvoas - Ga Tech
Obinna Eze- Memphis



Care to give a percentage on each?

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Anyone have the list of visitors this weekend? Any surprises?

[ShotgunDawg]

Looks like Bowie will visit this weekend

[bulldog2488]

Looks like Bowie will visit this weekend

How do y'all feel about our chances with Bowie? I know he basically has been called an Ole Miss lock until lately with all the NCAA stuff, but I also saw where he has made comments about looking at other schools. Just wondering if we have a legit shot.

[ShotgunDawg]

How do y'all feel about our chances with Bowie? I know he basically has been called an Ole Miss lock until lately with all the NCAA stuff, but I also saw where he has made comments about looking at other schools. Just wondering if we have a legit shot.

I have really have no clue, but, if Bowie was completely set on going to OM, I think OM would've bottled this up by now.

The longer he shows the interest, the more I'm coming around to the idea that maybe he doesn't want to go to OM

[bulldog2488]

Good point. I personally think if we get him on campus we have a great shot. Also, didn't he make comments recently that if the NCAA investigation wasn't over by signing day he was not going to Ole Miss?

[maroonmania]

I have really have no clue, but, if Bowie was completely set on going to OM, I think OM would've bottled this up by now.

The longer he shows the interest, the more I'm coming around to the idea that maybe he doesn't want to go to OM

Or it just means that the Bears are no longer in a position to be paying kids not to visit MSU.

[Dawgology]

Or it just means that the Bears are no longer in a position to be paying kids not to visit MSU.

THIS!!!

[vv83]

IYOK and Ari - Does Grantham bring anyone new in play for us?

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Louiville wasnt exactly tearing it up on the recruiting trail

[msstate7]

Louiville wasnt exactly tearing it up on the recruiting trail

22nd nationally and 6th in ACC, but...

4. UNO 196.70
5. VT 196.43
6. Louisville 195.46

So, is 1.25 from being 4th in ACC.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

based on number of recruits though.. they have 27 commits with only two 4*'s

[msstate7]

based on number of recruits though.. they have 27 commits with only two 4*'s

I see 22 commits, but point remains. We only have 3 4*s out of 20 and they beat us for one haha

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

What is the point? We are better at Louisville in recruiting now? ha. I'll go with that.

[Ari Gold]

based on number of recruits though.. they have 27 commits with only two 4*'s

Any 3* from Ga or Fla they have committed is better than the 4* CJ Avery ..

[msstate7]

Looks like grantham was lead recruiter on...

Kam Jones (3* lb from Georgia) that we offered too. Enrolled

Tre Norwood (3* cb from Arkansas)

Malik Clark (3* de from Georgia)

[msstate7]

Interesting note... grantham was lead on breon Dixon (4* om lb commit). Does grantham continue to pursue here?

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Are we back to the stars don't matter crap again...I used to think that way.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

I hope not. He is undersized. A prototypical OM LB.

[Bothrops]

When recruiting the defense MSU>Louisville.

[Really Clark?]

For those who are wondering, one of Grantham's stops with visits starting back today will be with Gay. Of course we will be seeing a ton of guys but Grantham obviously is making him a priority. It's a no brainer but thought some might like to know. Some other interesting visits: Stephen Guidry and trying to nail down if he is OVing or is the door completely closed. We will be seeing Bowie tomorrow. Flying TBuck out west to try a get a visit from a CB.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

We've got to find a legit HS CB somewhere. Good luck TBuck!

[jumbo]

We've got to find a legit HS CB somewhere. Good luck TBuck!


He's flying out to Cali today to try and get a visit out of this guy

http://247sports.com/Player/Deommodore-Lenoir-75973

[Shooter McGavin]

He's flying out to Cali today to try and get a visit out of this guy

http://247sports.com/Player/Deommodore-Lenoir-75973

Does this guy have some ties to the southeast? Otherwise it looks like he would be a tough pull, but hey it can't hurt to ask I guess.

[thf24]

Does this guy have some ties to the southeast? Otherwise it looks like he would be a tough pull, but hey it can't hurt to ask I guess.

TBuck allegedly made a similar trip to Florida and plucked Stewart Reese around this time last year when no one thought he could do it. Granted we have better ties to Florida than So Cal, but I wouldn't put it past him.

[msbulldog]

Damn, I hope we keep TBuck, I think we will because he worked for Grantham at UL. All I know is what I read, but he sounds like a helluva recruiter.

[Bass Chaser]

He definitely seems to be a tireless recruiter that won't take no until after the ink has dried.

[msstate7]

Is Mohamed sanago a take? If so, what's our chances?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Is Mohamed sanago a take? If so, what's our chances?

He doesn't have an offer yet.

[RezDog7]

He doesn't have an offer yet.

I hope he doesn't get one because I assume he is only a take if we miss on another linebacker.

[Really Clark?]

I hope he doesn't get one because I assume he is only a take if we miss on another linebacker.

Two different LB positions, he is not a backup plan for Gay specifically. It only has to do with overall numbers whether they offer him or not.

[msstate7]

I hope he doesn't get one because I assume he is only a take if we miss on another linebacker.

Who is the other ILB we're recruiting that's a take and we have a shot at?

[HoopsDawg]

He doesn't have an offer yet.

I don't think we have enough talented LBs on the roster for a 3-4. I bet we offer Sanago if he visits.

[msstate7]

Is Thomas Johnston still possible?

[msstate7]

Really need to pull 2 of carty, Rhodes, tucker, and Bateman.

[Big4Dawg]

Anyone know how Gay's home visit went? Is he visiting this weekend?

[Bothrops]

Anyone know how Gay's home visit went? Is he visiting this weekend?

He is scheduled to visit this weekend.

[Really Clark?]

Suggs has made it for OV

[ShotgunDawg]

Willie Gay is on campus

[Ari Gold]

Gudiry's Sister wins out. Don't expect him to visit .

[Tripp McNeely]

Gudiry's Sister wins out. Don't expect him to visit .

Is she at LSU?

[Ari Gold]

Is Thomas Johnston still possible?

NER. ( not enough room)

[ShotgunDawg]

Gudiry's Sister wins out. Don't expect him to visit .

Billy G. What does he do?

[RezDog7]

Are we going to bring in another QB? I heard Last Chance U is no longer on the team.

[Really Clark?]

Both the kicker and punter we are high on made it. Along with LB Sanogo, OL Carty, DE Timbs (walk on candidate) plus the commitments we had scheduled for this weekend. WR Guidry is the only one who decided not to come.

[Vandelay Industries]

Is Willie on campus?

[msstate7]

So Guidry is gone. Did Bowie make it to campus? I assume McMath won't visit, so is sanders all that's left on wr board?

[Really Clark?]

Is Willie on campus?

Yes. Mentioned on the previous page

[Really Clark?]

So Guidry is gone. Did Bowie make it to campus? I assume McMath won't visit, so is sanders all that's left on wr board?

Bowie is next weekend because he has a basketball tourney this weekend. McMath is next weekend but we will have to wait out what happens at LSU this weekend. After that we will have to see if we bring someone else in like Sanders or use the spot elsewhere.

[Vandelay Industries]

Yes. Mentioned on the previous page

Gotcha. My bad

[Really Clark?]

Gotcha. My bad

No problem

[msstate7]

Are there any likely commits this weekend?

[ShotgunDawg]

Are there any likely commits this weekend?

No. Rosebowl said today to not expect any

[msstate7]

Bowie is next weekend because he has a basketball tourney this weekend. McMath is next weekend but we will have to wait out what happens at LSU this weekend. After that we will have to see if we bring someone else in like Sanders or use the spot elsewhere.

When is Bowie expected to visit OM?

[HoopsDawg]

No. Rosebowl said today to not expect any

Got a commit from Takion Reed but he's likely a sign and place.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Got a commit from Takion Reed but he's likely a sign and place.

Good get. He's going to be a good player. Can be a good OL or DL. Good to get him so OM can't place him.

[HoopsDawg]

Good get. He's going to be a good player. Can be a good OL or DL. Good to get him so OM can't place him.

Agree. He and Cooper are 2 nice sign and place guys.

[Really Clark?]

When is Bowie expected to visit OM?

27th

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Carty got CB's to the good guys

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Are there any developments on Obinna Eze? Ari Gold got me excited that we might have a shot at him.

[msstate7]

A Mother ****ing Bold Gold prediction... we will flip 3 of these commits
D.D. Bowie - Umiss
Stephen Guidry - LSU
Clyde Edwards Helarie - LSU
Joseph Bulvoas - Ga Tech
Obinna Eze- Memphis

Guidry appears to be out. Still think we flip 3 of the remaining 4?

[Ari Gold]

Guidry appears to be out. Still think we flip 3 of the remaining 4?

That's why I said Bold prediction .. I still think we can flip any of the remaining ones on there..

[msstate7]

That's why I said Bold prediction .. I still think we can flip any of the remaining ones on there..

Hope you're right... I'll be happy if we get 2 of those

[msstate7]

Any word coming out of the visits?

[Lance Harbor]

He's flying out to Cali today to try and get a visit out of this guy

http://247sports.com/Player/Deommodore-Lenoir-75973

All Name team.

[defiantdog]

Any word coming out of the visits?
No, but I think Leo has taken over Dak's spot for the guy recruits talk to when they visit. Either that or him and Willie are just close.....

[stalkingpoon]

I don't think Leo was on campus this weekend.

[ShotgunDawg]

Jordan Rhodes just committed to South Carolina.

Hev had his ass kicked again.

[msstate7]

Jordan Rhodes just committed to South Carolina.

Hev had his ass kicked again.

Boom is one hell of a recruiter. He's whipping Florida at South Carolina in recruiting. I do wonder what offensive commits are thinking signing up to play for boom though.

We gotta get carty now.

[Really Clark?]

Jordan Rhodes just committed to South Carolina.

Hev had his ass kicked again.

Hev sucks but you don't put down a 50/50 kid who commits on his OV to the other school on him at all. You're just bashing him for the sake of it in this one. We have plenty to call him out on but not this one.

[HoopsDawg]

Hev sucks but you don't put down a 50/50 kid who commits on his OV to the other school on him at all. You're just bashing him for the sake of it in this one. We have plenty to call him out on but not this one.

We lost yet another Oline target. Of course it's on Hev. We will be signing backup plans again per usual.

[msbulldog]

Hey we got 2 weeks, let's flip him, USCe is a dumpster fire, we kicked their ass this past season.

[ShotgunDawg]

Hev sucks but you don't put down a 50/50 kid who commits on his OV to the other school on him at all. You're just bashing him for the sake of it in this one. We have plenty to call him out on but not this one.

This is my biggest complaints about Hev and Gonzo apologists. Not saying you are one.

You can come up with a valid reason, perhaps even legitimate reason, why they lose the recruits that they lose. However, I don't see this as being about Rhodes, Guidry, McMath, AJ, or any other individual player. This is about a collective, awful recruiting effort from both of these individuals.

It's about the big picture and how they never seem to win any recruiting battles.

[msstate7]

How we look with Jordan tucker and carty? If we could pull these and sign Suggs, we should be in decent shape with our tackles

[Really Clark?]

This is my biggest complaints about Hev and Gonzo apologists. Not saying you are one.

You can come up with a valid reason, perhaps even legitimate reason, why they lose the recruits that they lose. However, I don't see this as being about Rhodes, Guidry, McMath, AJ, or any other individual player. This is about a collective, awful recruiting effort from both of these individuals.

It's about the big picture and how they never seem to win any recruiting battles.

I hear ya and I've stated he should go but the flip side is he won the battle for Suggs and got him to shut down his rectuitment this weekend. No more visits for him.

[BankerDog]

We land Jordan Carty and Jordan Tucker. Bookmark it

[Bothrops]

How do we look with Carty?

[Tripp McNeely]

We land Jordan Carty and Jordan Tucker. Bookmark it

Carty already seems to be in the boat...and I'll take your word on Tucker

[BeastMan]

OM offered Caleb Oliver

[msstate7]

OM offered Caleb Oliver

Is Oliver gonna visit us next week?

[msstate7]

We land Jordan Carty and Jordan Tucker. Bookmark it

Carty, Richardson, Suggs, tucker, champion, and Phillips would be a nice group

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

Wasn't Rhodes scheduled to visit next weekend? Any chance we can still get him to? Sometimes these guys get overwhelmed with excitement and all the love and decide there can't be anything better than this and jump in the boat. If we can get him to visit, we could possibly at least make him have to think about things.

[msstate7]

Anyone have the list of likely visits next weekend?

[Ari Gold]

Hearing another spot to open up...

[msstate7]

Hearing another spot to open up...

Spots are opening, but how's the filling coming along?

[PlattsburgDawg]

Hearing another spot to open up...

A current player leaving or a decommit?

[msstate7]

Jordan tucker CB'd to UNC after visit there this weekend. Scheduled to visit South Carolina this coming weekend. Is he gonna visit here? Why are some so confident we'll get him?

[Ari Gold]

A current player leaving or a decommit?

Mutual decommit.

[BankerDog]

Mutual decommit.

Double A

[msstate7]

Double A

I assume AAron Odom. Not sure who we plan to replace these guys with though

[Ifyouonlyknew]

It's not Odom.

[Commercecomet24]

It's not Odom.

I won't hold you to it but you always seem to have the best info. How do you think we finish. Grade A, B, C or below? I think we finish well and give us a B.

[Bothrops]

Whose the decommit ?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I won't hold you to it but you always seem to have the best info. How do you think we finish. Grade A, B, C or below? I think we finish well and give us a B.

B

[Commercecomet24]

B

That's about where I think too. Appreciate the info!

[msstate7]

B

I'll take a B bc there's no way we get a B without getting gay and another olineman

[state66]

I wonder if this has anything to do with Kaleb Oliver having an in home with Ole Miss today.

[Really Clark?]

Since it's already coming out look for Oliver to decommit. Grantham and the staff are shuffling the board to get better fits for him and our needs with that. Peterson talked with him last week and we will continue to talk with him. He may go to Louisville with Sirmon but he also fits UNM scheme at OLB better than ours now. So it is a possibility.

[ShotgunDawg]

Oliver will decommit. Tucker Day took his spot and I think that's a great decision.

Elite punter like JK Scott decide far more games than another safety.

[Bothrops]

Kaleb Oliver is a player. I don't like the thought of losing him, especially to the bears.

[Big4Dawg]

I thought this class was supposed to be 30+ players? what happened?

[Really Clark?]

I thought this class was supposed to be 30+ players? what happened?

Less attrition than thought but it was the surprise mid year signees of Abram, Cole and Rivers that has also changed our board. Depending on who signs it will probably be around 26-28 players signing. Someone very connected correct me on those numbers if I'm off.

[Really Clark?]

Oliver just decommitted.

[msstate7]

Oliver just decommitted.

Gay has always been very imporatant. He just became absolutely vital.

[msstate7]

It seems to be that if we're gonna run a 3-4, LBs should be more of a priority. We have 2 commits if you consider sweat an olb. How many LBs are still on the board?

[HoopsDawg]

Less attrition than thought but it was the surprise mid year signees of Abram, Cole and Rivers that has also changed our board. Depending on who signs it will probably be around 26-28 players signing. Someone very connected correct me on those numbers if I'm off.

We have the room. But it will be a small senior class so we need to save spots for 2018. Need to keep good class balance.

[Really Clark?]

We have the room. But it will be a small senior class so we need to save spots for 2018. Need to keep good class balance.

That's very true also

[Ari Gold]

We need to get more quality than just quantity..

[bulldawg28]

Gay has always been very imporatant. He just became absolutely vital.

Not really, but I hear you. LB is one position I never worry about at MSU. It's the same for Rb.

[msstate7]

Not really, buthe I hear got. LB is one position I never worry about at MSU. It's the same or Rb

We had a bad LB group last year and were bad at RB for a year and a half till aeris emerged. LB problems could've been more bc of defensive philosophy charge, but still

[bulldog2488]

Ari or IYOK, y'all care to give us your best guesses on who we finish out the class with and how confident you feel with each? I know y'all have stated earlier in the thread some ideas, but with recommits and some targets committing elsewhere I wanted to see if y'all had any updates.

[defiantdog]

We had a bad LB group last year and were bad at RB for a year and a half till aeris emerged. LB problems could've been more bc of defensive philosophy charge, but still
I'm interested to see Erroll at ILB since he played DE in high school for the most part. Saban even recruited him and compared him to Courtney Upshaw..... should be interesting to see.

[Bothrops]

Erroll was an absolute animal in high school.

It does suck to lose a guy as promising as Oliver, though. I think he could be very solid in a couple of years. I suppose this class could still finish top 25, if we land Gay.

[BankerDog]

Well I was wrong about Odom, his tweets were very leading, though.

Ari is right, however, that we need quality depth. Shouldn't offer guys just to fill spots. We have the lead on the top LB in the state next year in Will Robinson from Hattiesburg.

Speaking of Hattiesburg, Ari/IYOK what are your guys thoughts on us passing Jordan Murphy? Also any shot at Fabian Franklin or Jarveon Howard?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I'm interested to see Erroll at ILB since he played DE in high school for the most part. Saban even recruited him and compared him to Courtney Upshaw..... should be interesting to see.

He played DE his Jr year. His Sr year he played LB.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Well I was wrong about Odom, his tweets were very leading, though.

Ari is right, however, that we need quality depth. Shouldn't offer guys just to fill spots. We have the lead on the top LB in the state next year in Will Robinson from Hattiesburg.

Speaking of Hattiesburg, Ari/IYOK what are your guys thoughts on us passing Jordan Murphy? Also any shot at Fabian Franklin or Jarveon Howard?

Murphy is a slot guy & we have a ton of slot guys. Yea I think we can get Franklin or Howard.

[HancockCountyDog]

Gay has always been very imporatant. He just became absolutely vital.

Keep an eye on the LSU LB board. I personally think we are fine, but I keep hearing that LSU is slow playing him while going after Phillips and Ellis.

I think we end up getting some good news on signing day (assuming he waits that long), but after last year's finish I'm still suffering from PTSDD. (Post Traumatic Signing Day Disorder)

[Ari Gold]

Keep an eye on the LSU LB board. I personally think we are fine, but I keep hearing that LSU is slow playing him while going after Phillips and Ellis.

I think we end up getting some good news on signing day (assuming he waits that long), but after last year's finish I'm still suffering from PTSDD. (Post Traumatic Signing Day Disorder)

Not only on LB position, but WR and RB.. things will get very interesting next few weeks.

[TStationDawg]

Not only on LB position, but WR and RB.. things will get very interesting next few weeks.

So it wasn't just 'crootin hyperbole that we are going to "shock the world" on signing day? I had chalked it up to just that, until this quote and IYOK's thread.

[defiantdog]

He played DE his Jr year. His Sr year he played LB.
I guess you missed where I said, for the most part. He also played on the punt team and was unstoppable in fake punts running the ball.

[Bothrops]

"We have the lead"

I'm not even sure what that means anymore, concerning MSU football.

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

Has Thompson lost some weight and reshaped his body any since he's been here ala Leo Lewis?

[defiantdog]

Has Thompson lost some weight and reshaped his body any since he's been here ala Leo Lewis?
He's lost weight, but not like Leo. Leo is built like Willie Gay. Erroll is built like a Mack truck.

[defiantdog]

So a 4* west coast DB is visiting us next weekend..... let's see if it happens.

[jumbo]

So a 4* west coast DB is visiting us next weekend..... let's see if it happens.


Yep, the guy I mentioned last week that Buckley was flying out to see if he could get him to visit.

http://247sports.com/Player/Deommodore-Lenoir-75973

[msstate7]

Carty CB'd to South Carolina.

[Big4Dawg]

Carty CB'd to South Carolina.

Just read this from USC's 247 site:

-South Carolina is going to try to sign two more offensive linemen in this class, but they aren’t just going to take a player to take one. Jordon Carty out of Fort Lauderdale, Fla., is an option, but I hear his grades are an issue and then one more if they find one more they like. That being said, those types of situations can change and Carty has big enough upside to where he may be a sign-and-place candidate.

I didn't know grades were a problem. Great

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Carty is expected to qualify.

[msstate7]

Just read this from USC's 247 site:

-South Carolina is going to try to sign two more offensive linemen in this class, but they aren’t just going to take a player to take one. Jordon Carty out of Fort Lauderdale, Fla., is an option, but I hear his grades are an issue and then one more if they find one more they like. That being said, those types of situations can change and Carty has big enough upside to where he may be a sign-and-place candidate.

I didn't know grades were a problem. Great

Richardson and carty are grade risks. Smh

[msstate7]

Carty is expected to qualify.

Where's the South Carolina confidence coming from on carty? Is he visiting them this weekend?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Richardson and carty are grade risks. Smh

Both are expected to qualify.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Where's the South Carolina confidence coming from on carty? Is he visiting them this weekend?

It's a CB from a South Carolina blog site. I'm not sure you can say they're confident. They said he's an option since they want 2 more OL I'm not sure how you read that as confidence.

[msstate7]

It's a CB from a South Carolina blog site. I'm not sure you can say they're confident. They said he's an option since they want 2 more OL I'm not sure how you read that as confidence.

They CB'd him to South Carolina. This past week I saw Rhodes CB'd to South Carolina and boom... he committed. Same with tucker to unc. Now I see carty to South Carolina, so I pay attention. Forget the other 2 to state haha

[Ifyouonlyknew]

They CB'd him to South Carolina. This past week I saw Rhodes CB'd to South Carolina and boom... he committed. Same with tucker to unc. Now I see carty to South Carolina, so I pay attention. Forget the other 2 to state haha

Again 1 blogger from South Carolina CB him to South Carolina. This weekend everyone associated with South Carolina 247 site CB Rhodes. Same with everyone associated with UNC 247 & Tucker. Now if those guys start CB Carty to South Carolina then I'll start paying more attention. That's a trend this is 1 guy with a blog. We'll see where it goes from here.

[BankerDog]

Anyone have any insight as to what Shaadiq Charles' tweet is about?

[msstate7]

Anyone have any insight as to what Shaadiq Charles' tweet is about?

What's it say? I'm an amateur tweet translator haha

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

I see where 247 shows on their timeline that the CB from Cali is visiting us and USC on the same weekend. I'm no recruiting expert, but I'll go out on a limb and say visiting both on the same weekend won't happen.

[Irondawg]

We seems to end up competing with SC for OL lately. Any idea why they seem to be getting the better end hisbyear. We had the guy we were set to steal from them last year until LSU made a signing day offer. That one still stings

[msstate7]

Anyone have any insight as to what Shaadiq Charles' tweet is about?

Big announcement on Friday, huh? His handle is deathvalley- diq, so I wouldn't get hopes up... probably getting a chest tattoo of Mike VI

[msstate7]

We seems to end up competing with SC for OL lately. Any idea why they seem to be getting the better end hisbyear. We had the guy we were set to steal from them last year until LSU made a signing day offer. That one still stings

Cushenberry

Oline wanting to play for boom is weird. It's like they can't remember the guy has never fielded a competent offense

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I see where 247 shows on their timeline that the CB from Cali is visiting us and USC on the same weekend. I'm no recruiting expert, but I'll go out on a limb and say visiting both on the same weekend won't happen.

He's visiting MSU.

[bulldog2488]

Big announcement on Friday, huh? His handle is deathvalley- diq, so I wouldn't get hopes up... probably getting a chest tattoo of Mike VI

You're probably right, but why would he state he was making a "big" announcement? He is already committed to LSU and made a "shutting down my recruitment" tweet stating that he was staying with LSU after the coaching change. Just wondering if there is anything here or is the really about getting some attention.

[msstate7]

You're probably right, but why would he state he was making a "big" announcement? He is already committed to LSU and made a "shutting down my recruitment" tweet stating that he was staying with LSU after the coaching change. Just wondering if there is anything here or is the really about getting some attention.

I asked lsu recruiting board on tiger droppings. If he's being dropped, they have no idea. Only guess they had was announcing jersey number.

[bulldog2488]

I asked lsu recruiting board on tiger droppings. If he's being dropped, they have no idea. Only guess they had was announcing jersey number.

That hardly qualifies as a "big" announcement, but I guess that kind of stuff is a big deal to these kids.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

This guy is from LA, what is the connection? Does he have relatives here?

[FISHDAWG]

In other news Key and Willie Gay have both moved up in the adjusted rankings
http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-ten-sec-commits-among-5-star-movers-in-247sports-composite/

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Awesome!!

[msstate7]

Carty CB'd to South Carolina again. They get last visit. Gotta figure if carty doesn't commit to us before that visit, we lose out again

[Shooter McGavin]

Carty CB'd to South Carolina again. They get last visit. Gotta figure if carty doesn't commit to us before that visit, we lose out again

The second I saw that I knew you'd have a post about it. The 2 USCe guys say they get him, the 2 MSU guys say we do. I guess we will see who's right soon. No need to freak out every day.

[msstate7]

The second I saw that I knew you'd have a post about it. The 2 USCe guys say they get him, the 2 MSU guys say we do. I guess we will see who's right soon. No need to freak out every day.

The CBs don't bother near as much as South Carolina getting the last visit. Boom is one hell of a recruiter and I don't like him getting the last sales pitch. Perhaps there's nothing to worry about; but like I said, if carty is uncommitted going to South Carolina on last weekend, I think they get him. You don't find it interesting that coming off an OV to us that they feel they get him? Seems carty would still be on his "high" for us coming off an OV here

[maroonmania]

We seem to be very "business-like" with our OVs. Seldom do I get the feeling that one of our recruits is on a "high" after visiting at least not like you hear after some recruits visit other schools that seem to do more of the "wine and dine" thing. Isn't Carty the one that was reported to have committed on his visit and then backed off? That is a sort of a bad sign to me, but I'm usually pessimistic anyway.

[msstate7]

We seem to be very "business-like" with our OVs. Seldom do I get the feeling that one of our recruits is on a "high" after visiting at least not like you hear after some recruits visit other schools that seem to do more of the "wine and dine" thing. Isn't Carty the one that was reported to have committed on his visit and then backed off? That is a sort of a bad sign to me, but I'm usually pessimistic anyway.

Yeah, that was him. I thought it was a good sign; but now that I think it, I don't think that has ever worked out for us. Hopefully we can get Carty though.

Is Rhodes still expected to visit this weekend?

[msstate7]

C66 on sps says lsu close to flipping Josh Clarke (lb) from om. C66 says he thinks that's indication that lsu isn't feeling so good about gay

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Meanwhile Willie Gay just got yet another CB to LSU...WTF?

[msstate7]

Meanwhile Willie Gay just got yet another CB to LSU...WTF?

Same guy (Donahue) predicted Jacob Phillips to flip to lsu from Oklahoma. That would be quite a pull for lsu to get both. Donahue is from bleacher report though, so who knows if he's a good source or not

[Bothrops]

SC is mopping up the floor with us on OL recruits, which is asinine considering the disparity between the two offenses and with Key coming in. How embarrassing.

[Shooter McGavin]

Same guy (Donahue) predicted Jacob Phillips to flip to lsu from Oklahoma. That would be quite a pull for lsu to get both. Donahue is from bleacher report though, so who knows if he's a good source or not

Rosie confirmed on his show yesterday what many have been saying that LSU is chasing a lot of linebackers for couple of spots. I think we will get Willie anyway but hopefully they will get a commit or 2 soon and lessen the anxiety.

[Bothrops]

Same guy (Donahue) predicted Jacob Phillips to flip to lsu from Oklahoma. That would be quite a pull for lsu to get both. Donahue is from bleacher report though, so who knows if he's a good source or not

Those guys aren't gonna be satisfied until LSU leads for Gay.

[Saltydog]

show 0 special teams players. Not sure why Tucker Day isn't counted there. I was hoping that with the Rebs being stymied that we might be able to finish in the top 20 but not sure that's going to happen. If we don't get Gay no way it happens.

[HancockCountyDog]

show 0 special teams players. Not sure why Tucker Day isn't counted there. I was hoping that with the Rebs being stymied that we might be able to finish in the top 20 but not sure that's going to happen. If we don't get Gay no way it happens.

We are not taking advantage of the situation. Need to finish strong.

[DeputyDawg94]

The kid from Clinton who was committed to Iowa state just said he was opening his recruitment back up. Does State have a chance with him?
That's per his twitter.

[Big4Dawg]

The kid from Clinton who was committed to Iowa state just said he was opening his recruitment back up. Does State have a chance with him?

We aren't recruiting him. All OM

[msstate7]

Gay CB'd to lsu again. It's now 43% each, but we haven't gotten any lately. We seem to be the only ones thinking he comes here

[msstate7]

Louisville thinks they flip Odom. This would be disappointing. We took Buckley and grantham from them and they seem to cleaning our clock recruiting wise in return

[Dawgtini]

Gonna need a definition of "cleaning our clock". I only see speculation so far.

[bulldawg28]

Louisville thinks they flip Odom. This would be disappointing. We took Buckley and grantham from them and they seem to cleaning our clock recruiting wise in return

Hey bro stop drinking the kool-aid. Your starting to lose it.

[Bothrops]

We are absolutely horrible in recruiting. If we lose a DL from Jackson to Sirmon, someone should removed at once.

[msstate7]

Gonna need a definition of "cleaning our clock". I only see speculation so far.

Definetly an exaggeration on my part, but they seem to be on the cusp of getting 3 players I really wanted in toryque bateman, Avery, and Odom. Hopefully this is just a premature, unwarranted melt ... I'll try to man up (haha)

[msstate7]

Hey bro stop drinking the kool-aid. Your starting to lose it.

Yeah, recruiting hard on me the last week or 2

[bulldawg28]

Yeah, recruiting hard on me the last week or 2

Lol...it's recruiting and a business now which adds drama. That's what subscribers pay for

[Bothrops]

I have a feeling after we miss on Carty, we go after Khalil Keith from AL.

Does anyone think we'll have to flip Gay in order to get him after his LSU visit?

[ScottH]

IYOK (or anyone) , does Reed from New Hope flip if UM offers?

[msbulldog]

Gay CB'd to lsu again. It's now 43% each, but we haven't gotten any lately. We seem to be the only ones thinking he comes here

I think the chant 'We want Willie' at the BB game had a impression on him that will be hard to forget.

[Ari Gold]

IYOK (or anyone) , does Reed from New Hope flip if UM offers?

He is juco bound regardless

[HoopsDawg]

Hey bro stop drinking the kool-aid. Your starting to lose it.

lol, I blocked him 2 weeks ago and it has greatly enhanced my enjoyment of the board.

[msstate7]

Delete

[msbulldog]

We are absolutely horrible in recruiting. If we lose a DL from Jackson to Sirmon, someone should removed at once.

Everybody take a chill pill, we have a recruiting class in the top 25, maybe up or down in the next 2 weeks? Just get off your ass and go to your job tomorrow, this is absolutely out of your control! We all hope for the best, but don't let it drive you drinking, Cheers! Hail State!

[msstate7]

I have a feeling after we miss on Carty, we go after Khalil Keith from AL.

Does anyone think we'll have to flip Gay in order to get him after his LSU visit?

Think we could get him? Says he has a Baylor and OM offer. Not sure if those are real though bc no visits scheduled

[msstate7]

Paul Jones CB'd reed to flip to OM.

Seems things are kinda trending down for us at the moment. I will say that leading up to juco signing day things seemed to be falling apart, but we really did well in the end. Hopefully our coaches can finish strong these last 2 weeks again.

[Bothrops]

Paul Jones CB'd reed to flip to OM.

Seems things are kinda trending down for us at the moment. I will say that leading up to juco signing day things seemed to be falling apart, but we really did well in the end. Hopefully our coaches can finish strong these last 2 weeks again.

Freeze must be doing work still.

[HancockCountyDog]

Freeze must be doing work still.

At some point we have to start looking in the mirror.

We just lost Odom and instead of cleaning up in state, and taking advantage of the Bears nuclear situation, we are scrambling to fill out our class.

Worst of all, he made Fancy look right about something, which hasn't happened in a decade.

I knew there was a reason I stepped away from this shit after the Arkansas game.

[Irondawg]

The bad thing for this year is MS just didn't have a great class I don't think. Look at the list and tell me who you think becomes an all-SEC type? Akers is a stud and I really like Hill and Gay. But I just don't consider anybody else there a huge loss honestly. I actually like Tyler Williams better than a lot of those guys.

http://247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/CompositeRecruitRankings?State=MS

My question for the guys that know more is how good is Odom really? He seemed to be a tweener and that always worried me a touch.

Of course the real question is how much better is he than who we'll end up replacing him with.

[Bothrops]

The bad thing for this year is MS just didn't have a great class I don't think. Look at the list and tell me who you think becomes an all-SEC type? Akers is a stud and I really like Hill and Gay. But I just don't consider anybody else there a huge loss honestly. I actually like Tyler Williams better than a lot of those guys.

http://247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/CompositeRecruitRankings?State=MS

My question for the guys that know more is how good is Odom really? He seemed to be a tweener and that always worried me a touch.

Of course the real question is how much better is he than who we'll end up replacing him with.

Odom is a player. Has the stats to prove. Likely a big loss.

[Todd4State]

At some point we have to start looking in the mirror.

We just lost Odom and instead of cleaning up in state, and taking advantage of the Bears nuclear situation, we are scrambling to fill out our class.

Worst of all, he made Fancy look right about something, which hasn't happened in a decade.

I knew there was a reason I stepped away from this shit after the Arkansas game.

As far as looking into the mirror, the common theme I am seeing over and over is "they (insert school here) just seemed to want me more." More than likely that's the problem from all of our staff.

[ScottH]

As far as looking into the mirror, the common theme I am seeing over and over is "they (insert school here) just seemed to want me more." More than likely that's the problem from all of our staff.

Not rocket science is it?

[Ari Gold]

Hurts more with Malik Heath than anytning..
Thats the kid that's a must get

[msstate7]

Gay CB'd to lsu again. This time by AL.com. We're the only ones that feel we're getting gay. Is everyone else wrong or are we?

[Ari Gold]

Gay CB'd to lsu again. This time by AL.com. We're the only ones that feel we're getting gay. Is everyone else wrong or are we?

With our track record on closing guys in Feb. why wouldn't some have him leaning elsewhere. Saying that I still as of right now think we land Willie.

[msstate7]

Hey bro stop drinking the kool-aid. Your starting to lose it.

Am I still crazy? Lousville guys came out and said they had Odom. You don't do that without knowing something

[bulldawg28]

Am I still crazy? Lousville guys came out and said they had Odom. You don't do that without knowing something

Lol, Ole Miss says that about everyone they're recruiting. You always get who you're supposed to get. Odom wanted to play as a true freshman. Lville is where that would happen. Good luck to him and Sirmon with all those freshmen on the field.

[msstate7]

With our track record on closing guys in Feb. why wouldn't some have him leaning elsewhere. Saying that I still as of right now think we land Willie.

I hope you're right. It's about got to willie gay or bust

[jumbo]

With our track record on closing guys in Feb. why wouldn't some have him leaning elsewhere. Saying that I still as of right now think we land Willie.



This will be (hopefully) the 3rd year in a row that it looks like the staff puts all their focus on 1 guy down the stretch. Leo, Simmons now Gay...again, hopefully.

[Irondawg]

What the connection with Heath and Odom other than they go to the same school? Also do we have any more rationale on why Odom really flipped - was it just Sirmon and do we know if Grantham even talked to him?

There was some defensive commit (can't remember who) who said they haven't even talked to Grantham yet and that was about 4 days after he was hired. That shouldn't happen with anybody we really wanted. I can see giving Grantham a day to get his feet wet and have someone show him the tap on the commits, but everybody on the commit and high priority list should have hear from him within 48 hours max

[ScottH]

There was some defensive commit (can't remember who) who said they haven't even talked to Grantham yet and that was about 4 days after he was hired. That shouldn't happen with anybody we really wanted. I can see giving Grantham a day to get his feet wet and have someone show him the tap on the commits, but everybody on the commit and high priority list should have hear from him within 48 hours max

It was Tyler Dunning in 24/7 Biscuits on 1/17. Bizarre. Would to even take an hour to call ever commit and say hi.

[thf24]

Not trying to excuse our staff by any means, but this idea that we were going to start cleaning house in-state once OM's name hit the mud was never going to actually happen. We may get 1 or 2 guys a year that they would have gotten otherwise for as long as they're under the NCAA's heel, but for the most part we attract different types of players. Most of the guys they would have gotten will be more attracted to out-of-state schools whose personalities and recruiting pitches are similar to OM's instead of just defaulting to us.

[Irondawg]

It was Tyler Dunning in 24/7 Biscuits on 1/17. Bizarre. Would to even take an hour to call ever commit and say hi.

Makes me wonder if something similar happened with Odom and it turned him off while Sirmon may have been on him immediately and constantly.

[Really Clark?]

It was Tyler Dunning in 24/7 Biscuits on 1/17. Bizarre. Would to even take an hour to call ever commit and say hi.

It was also clarified that it didn't mean Grantham and Dunning had not texted or messaged each other.

[maroonmania]

Anyone who feels confident about any recruit at this point (Gay or anyone else) leading up to signing day is just either really na?ve or really polyanna. Now we are having a significant problem holding on to current commits, much less adding new ones. Blinding flash of the obvious, but we are just not all that good at the recruiting thing. Just at DE/OLB we have now lost Odom and the guy from Miami, FL that signed with TN.

[CadaverDawg]

We either have to change our recruiting pitch or I don't ever want to here "_____ to MSU" before Feb 3rd ever again on here. I can't fathom how a bunch of coaches with experience in tons of programs that actually CAN recruit, CAN'T recruit! I'm sick of excuses and how "so & so was a tweener anyway, no big loss"...bull shit. Bc any decent 4 star player is no more of a tweener than the nothing we will fill his spot with. We suck at recruiting, and until our pitch changes from "hard work, have to earn playing time"....nothing will change. These guys all know they won't just walk in & start since we aren't paying them the way others are...so tell them the good stuff &what they CAN do, and spare them the "IF you climb the depth chart by working hard and having a great practice the previous week, you MIGHT get a few snaps your Sophomore year AFTER you redshirt & learn playbooks & blocking schemes as a freshman." I wouldn't choose that horse shit either.

I'm not saying go all Ole Miss & promise the world with no work...but there is a happy medium, and you have to get them on campus first. When everyone else is preaching immediate playing time, league Championships, and college life...you can't be the lame asses preaching a military boot camp and think you're going to get anything but a few soldiers' kids. And it's great to have hard workers, but in college football...SEC football...you aren't winning at any type of high level without some talent

[Shooter McGavin]

It's about got to willie gay or bust

Yep and that's pathetic. We will probably add Sherman Timbs from Indianola too and that's about it.

My apologies to you for mocking you a bit yesterday for your recruiting freak outs. Mullen and Co are not good at recruiting. We will finish in the late 20s or 30s and that is unacceptable.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Gay CB'd to lsu again. This time by AL.com. We're the only ones that feel we're getting gay. Is everyone else wrong or are we?

Did you check Garrison Brooks CB's leading up to his announcement?

[msstate7]

Yep and that's pathetic. We will probably add Sherman Timbs from Indianola too and that's about it.

My apologies to you for mocking you a bit yesterday for your recruiting freak outs. Mullen and Co are not good at recruiting. We will finish in the late 20s or 30s and that is unacceptable.

I still hope the staff makes me look foolish. I was really doubting them leading up to juco signing day and they came thru pretty strong. Hopefully they duplicate that again

[msstate7]

Did you check Garrison Brooks CB's leading up to his announcement?
Yeah, Simmons last year too. I really hope the CBs are wrong again

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

I had definitely given up on Simmons leading into signing day last year...I thought it was Southern Miss when he showed up to announcement wearing black and gold.

I feel the same way about Gay right now.

[maroonmania]

Did you check Garrison Brooks CB's leading up to his announcement?

Oh, if only Ben Howland was running our recruiting in football what a joy it would be.

[Bothrops]

Howland could step in right now and school Mullen on recruited football players.

[HancockCountyDog]

Howland could step in right now and school Mullen on recruited football players.

Does Addidas make a football cleat?

[msstate7]

Is Jordan Rhodes still visiting this weekend?

[3rdGen]

Howland could step in right now and school Mullen on recruited football players.

Howland should put together a PowerPoint presentation for the entire football staff. And then take a few of them on in home visits with him so they can see the magic first hand.

[Bothrops]

Howland should put together a PowerPoint presentation for the entire football staff. And then take a few of them on in home visits with him so they can see the magic first hand.

Excellent idea.

[preachermatt83]

Gay CB'd to lsu again. This time by AL.com. We're the only ones that feel we're getting gay. Is everyone else wrong or are we?

Dont worry about willie. Even if he commits somewhere... DO NOT WORRY!! He will play for State.

[vv83]

Howland should put together a PowerPoint presentation for the entire football staff. And then take a few of them on in home visits with him so they can see the magic first hand.

Obviously not going to happen, but as an MSU coach could Howland recruit for football?

[Big4Dawg]

Howland should put together a PowerPoint presentation for the entire football staff. And then take a few of them on in home visits with him so they can see the magic first hand.

Howland and Cohen both should.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Oliver just decommitted.

And now looks like he's headed to OM...wtf?

[HancockCountyDog]

Dont worry about willie. Even if he commits somewhere... DO NOT WORRY!! He will play for State.

Please stop

[Really Clark?]

And now looks like he's headed to OM...wtf?

I don't remember if it was discussed on here or not but they were coming after him right after we changed DC. He actually fits Sirmon and UNM Hybird OLB/S better than Granthams personnel. Several said don't be surprised if they or Louisville get him.

[Irondawg]

I'd much rather him go to Louisville but there is an easy path to PT at ole Miss.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Oh crap... LSU it is.

[msstate7]

Oh crap... LSU it is.

Where you getting this from?

[Really Clark?]

Where you getting this from?

I think he is picking on Matt's prediction

[Shooter McGavin]

Dont worry about willie. Even if he commits somewhere... DO NOT WORRY!! He will play for State.

Ugh the preachermatt83 curse. Pack it up boys. We are screwed.

[msstate7]

I think he is picking on Matt's prediction
Ahhh... good deal. Losing gay today would've caused melting on the South Pole

[Ari Gold]

Odom is expected to be in Starkville tomorrow. And I have no idea if that's good or bad or makes no difference.
My guess if anything happens in our favor with Odom it will go down NSD.

[msstate7]

Odom is expected to be in Starkville tomorrow. And I have no idea if that's good or bad or makes no difference.
My guess if anything happens in our favor with Odom it will go down NSD.

Is Rhodes expected to visit?

[Really Clark?]

Jordan Rhodes still plans on coming to his OV this weekend with his family.

[msstate7]

Jordan Rhodes still plans on coming to his OV this weekend with his family.

Good deal. Would love to flip him

[preachermatt83]

Haha!! I understand the concern but I'm solid on this one. Willie will be a dawg.

[msstate7]

Robbie CB'd carty to South Carolina.

[CadaverDawg]

Robbie CB'd carty to South Carolina.

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy82/dguy210/facepalm-star-trek-o_zps1270c857.gif

[Bdawg]

Robbie CB'd carty to South Carolina.

I guess we are going to miss on every OL target we want coming down the homestretch. What the hell is our problem? You read one article where a kid loves Hev(Suggs maybe), and all I here from the board is HS coaches and kids don't like him. I don't what our achilles heel is with linemen but we got to figure it out.

[DeputyDawg94]

Did we lose any commits last night? If not give somebody a raise.****

[msstate7]

I guess we are going to miss on every OL target we want coming down the homestretch. What the hell is our problem? You read one article were a kid loves Hev(Suggs maybe), and all I here from the board is HS coaches and kids don't like him. I don't what our achilles heel is with linemen but we got to figure it out.

Rhodes is visiting this weekend. Maybe we can pull him

[msstate7]

Carty is a strange deal though. He tweeted out that he was committed to us, but quickly deleted. After our visit, 2 days later South Carolina guys started CBing his there and carty hasn't visited South Carolina yet. May seem like a dumb question, but does he have a committable offer from us? I'm sure he probably does, but that would explain deleting the tweet and then going all South Carolina immediately after our visit

[Bdawg]

Carty is a strange deal though. He tweeted out that he was committed to us, but quickly deleted. After our visit, 2 days later South Carolina guys started CBing his there and carty hasn't visited South Carolina yet. May seem like a dumb question, but does he have a committable offer from us? I'm sure he probably does, but that would explain deleting the tweet and then going all South Carolina immediately after our visit

That does sound very strange. Visit us, tweet commit, delete, CBs to SC without a visit. I dunno.

[maroonmania]

Carty is a strange deal though. He tweeted out that he was committed to us, but quickly deleted. After our visit, 2 days later South Carolina guys started CBing his there and carty hasn't visited South Carolina yet. May seem like a dumb question, but does he have a committable offer from us? I'm sure he probably does, but that would explain deleting the tweet and then going all South Carolina immediately after our visit

We have a strange history of guys committing to us and the commitment not even lasting 24 hours. That is why I just erased Carty as a possibility in my mind once he decommitted immediately after committing. I mean last year we had S Lashley and R Davis BOTH do that to us and a few years ago we had the McKenzie guy from Florida do that to us. I guess I don't understand the process of how that keeps happening?

[Jarius]

We have a strange history of guys committing to us and the commitment not even lasting 24 hours. That is why I just erased Carty as a possibility in my mind once he decommitted immediately after committing. I mean last year we had S Lashley and R Davis BOTH do that to us and a few years ago we had the McKenzie guy from Florida do that to us. I guess I don't understand the process of how that keeps happening?

We also had Willie Gay commit to our coaches privately and then commit to OM publically. Hopefully he is the one this year that our coaches are "all in" on to get because he is a huge need.

[Bothrops]

The recruiting guys on 247 see SC as far superior to MSU. Naturally they will cb contested kids there.

[msstate7]

The recruiting guys on 247 see SC as far superior to MSU. Naturally they will cb contested kids there.

Robbie Faulk and Paul jones did too

[maroonmania]

We also had Willie Gay commit to our coaches privately and then commit to OM publically. Hopefully he is the one this year that our coaches are "all in" on to get because he is a huge need.

What a joke, SC is one of the few SEC schools with a worse football tradition than MSU. Never really been relevant other than the few years they had under Spurrier.

[Really Clark?]

Denzel Houston a QB/Ath from FL is visiting this weekend. Former WMU commit who shows offers from Louisville,USF, FAU. Good speed but undersized at 5'10". Maybe a CB prospect for us. One of the other guys can clarify that though.