Recruiting 2017

[Gomez09]

Rosebowl just put out that Landry Walker is not having their signing day announcement today and Keyton T is not going to sign today... Guys in the know is this anything to get a little upset about?

[Cooterpoot]

Thompson never had anything planned for today.

[I seen it dawg]

And rosebowl should know that

[Gomez09]

Thought he was signing his financial aid papers today?

[I seen it dawg]

Thompson is all dawg. Don't sweat it.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Please no need to worry with Keytaon. He never had anything planned or said he did. He's all Dawg & just fine.

[dawgday166]

Last time I heard "don't sweat it" was with Lashley. 48 hours later he signed with Bama.

With LSU's new OC I'm sorta wondering if something may be up with KT. I'm not sweating it but would hate to lose him.

[was21]

Maybe LW put off its signing day announcements under pressure from....somebody..hope not

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Last time I heard "don't sweat it" was with Lashley. 48 hours later he signed with Bama.

With LSU's new OC I'm sorta wondering if something may be up with KT. I'm not sweating it but would hate to lose him.

This has less than 0 to do with LSU OC or anything. There was never any plans for Keytaon to sign today.

[dawgday166]

This has less than 0 to do with LSU OC or anything. There was never any plans for Keytaon to sign today.

Not knowing all the details of signing days ... I'm sorta wondering why would someone who is so sure hold off or postpone? Why would he go ahead and plan to not sign today, with being so sure and all?

Those may be a dumb questions but they seem logical to me. Maybe you've gone over this before and I missed it.

[I seen it dawg]

By all means keep wringing hands over it. Give you something to do.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Not knowing all the details of signing days ... I'm sorta wondering why would someone who is so sure hold off or postpone? Why would he go ahead and plan to not sign today, with being so sure and all?

Those may be a dumb questions but they seem logical to me. Maybe you've gone over this before and I missed it.

Could be the school is having a day for him. They may be having a state championship deal where he's doing it or they may have something going along with his Gatorade player of the year deal. I'm just saying no he's not wavering, no nothing is happening, no nothing is wrong.

[Cooterpoot]

HS kids signing doesn't mean anything anyway. They don't actually "sign" until signing day in Feb. or enroll.

[Ari Gold]

No worries on KT

[HSVDawg]

Could be the school is having a day for him. They may be having a state championship deal where he's doing it or they may have something going along with his Gatorade player of the year deal. I'm just saying no he's not wavering, no nothing is happening, no nothing is wrong.

Add that he cannot sign until February. He will be on campus in a classroom before he signs just like Dak and Fitz were. When / if he signs his FA paperwork is irrelevant.

[MafiaDawg]

Signing financial aid agreement doesn't bind him to anything. It does allow unlimited contact

[vv83]

So who did we get today that we didn't expect? Sweat?

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Are we expected to add any more high school commitments in February? How many do we sign total for this class?

[msstate7]

Great day! Now looking ahead, what's our remaining board look like for February?

[Commercecomet24]

This was a great day y'all! Props to our coaches for doing work and closing! Now lets look forward to a big day in February!

#HailState

[Commercecomet24]

This was a great day y'all! Props to our coaches for doing work and closing! Now lets look forward to a big day in February!

#HailState

[jumbo]

Are we expected to add any more high school commitments in February? How many do we sign total for this class?


Willie Gay
Joseph Bulovas

[jumbo]

Keytaon did sign his FAA papers last night. Now the staff is working to get him and the other EEs cleared so they can practice this weekend.

[msstate7]

Willie Gay
Joseph Bulovas

Well I hope we get more than that

[msstate7]

Keytaon did sign his FAA papers last night. Now the staff is working to get him and the other EEs cleared so they can practice this weekend.

Awesome news on others clearing... didn't know they could practice

[Ari Gold]

Some on here may or may not know.
But these 3 guys don't get the credit they deserve with this recruiting class, but they were very important. so props to
Coach Peterson, Coach Austin , & Coach Gibson. Job well done.

[RezDog7]

Some on here may or may not know.
But these 3 guys don't get the credit they deserve with this recruiting class, but they were very important. so props to
Coach Peterson, Coach Austin , & Coach Gibson. Job well done.

Any chance one or more of these coaches end up on the field next year?

[Ari Gold]

Any chance one or more of these coaches end up on the field next year?

I would say very good chance...
and I will go ahead and lobby for all 3 of them now..
No matter if they are or they aren't on the field they all need a pay raise. Period.

[jumbo]

Some on here may or may not know.
But these 3 guys don't get the credit they deserve with this recruiting class, but they were very important. so props to
Coach Peterson, Coach Austin , & Coach Gibson. Job well done.


No doubt. Would be nice to see what they could do recruiting on the road instead of from Starkville.

[Big4Dawg]

I would say very good chance...
and I will go ahead and lobby for all 3 of them now..
No matter if they are or they aren't on the field they all need a pay raise. Period.

There is only one coach on the staff that brings nothing to the table IMO (coaching/recruiting) -Sallach. I would all be for sending him to the office like Mullen tried to do once.

[Todd4State]

I would say very good chance...
and I will go ahead and lobby for all 3 of them now..
No matter if they are or they aren't on the field they all need a pay raise. Period.

100% agree. Not sure how that works out logistically other than Peterson to TE though as the rumor has been for some time now.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

There is only one coach on the staff that brings nothing to the table IMO (coaching/recruiting) -Sallach. I would all be for sending him to the office like Mullen tried to do once.

Sallach isn't a good recruiter but at least he tries hard. There's a couple others who don't put forth the effort.

[Ari Gold]

Sallach isn't a good recruiter but at least he tries hard. There's a couple others who don't put forth the effort.

You just opened yourself up for a lot of PM's with that one my friend. Better you than me.. hahahaha
And I agree.. although if and when changes are made this year I hope we upgrade there.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Sallach isn't a good recruiter but at least he tries hard. There's a couple others who don't put forth the effort.

I thought Sallach and Hev were the two that were the laziest...who else could it be? Knox?

[PonderThis1]

Willie Gay
Joseph Bulovas

Wait.... We're in it for Jo B? If you are right, that is HUGE

[defiantdog]

So, I just heard Pierce is afraid of competition..... good for him.

[bulldawg28]

So, I just heard Pierce is afraid of competition..... good for him.

Righhhht.... He chose another schoolook that's good enough. Some people will believe anything.

[Bothrops]

So, I just heard Pierce is afraid of competition..... good for him.

I hope we moved on. Seems like this guy has been recruited for 10 years.

[maroonmania]

I hope we moved on. Seems like this guy has been recruited for 10 years.

Yep, he may have passed up JJ Grant for the most times committed to MSU without ever suiting up.

[Ari Gold]

Righhhht.... He chose another schoolook that's good enough. Some people will believe anything.

The depth chart was a huge issue in where he is going to school... that's a fact..

[bulldawg28]

The depth chart was a huge issue in where he is going to school... that's a fact..

Depth chart should be a concern if your a juco player.

[Ari Gold]

Depth chart should be a concern if your a juco player.

As it should be... but a huge Part of his decision not to come to school here was based on the depth chart we have at TE..

[bulldawg28]

As it should be... but a huge Part of his decision not to come to school here was based on the depth chart we have at TE..

That's a great testament to the depth we have there. I honestly didn't see how he would get reps there. He would have to move outside for playing time for us.

[Todd4State]

That's a great testament to the depth we have there. I honestly didn't see how he would get reps there. He would have to move outside for playing time for us.

Which actually would have gotten him more reps and the ball more. It doesn't sound like he thought this out very well.

[bulldawg28]

Which actually would have gotten him more reps and the ball more. It doesn't sound like he thought this out very well.

Maybe. It's a possibility he didn't want to play WR either.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Stephen Guidry is committing tonight. That doesn't give me a warm feeling with LSU getting back on him yesterday.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Stephen Guidry is committing tonight. That doesn't give me a warm feeling with LSU getting back on him yesterday.

Yep, not good. Any other outside WR's on the radar?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Yep, not good. Any other outside WR's on the radar?

Guidry to LSU does have an unintended benefit. The more WR they take the less it is likely Racey McMath goes there. We have to get Guidry or McMath I don't care which 1.

[maroonmania]

Always amazes me how quickly we can go from practically having a guy wrapped up to losing him. Oh well, replacing Fred Ross just got that much more difficult. Our depth chart at WR certainly should not have been a problem for Guidry.

[Irondawg]

that would hurt - I felt pretty good at one tie we'd get Martin or Guidry and not we may not get either. Jazz transferring probably didn't help either as it opened up the depth chart.

Maybe we still get him and he's just tired of people bothering him. Long way until signing day either way

[Cooterpoot]

McMath still has a spot at LSU. He will be in their class unless something crazy happens (numbers aren't an issue with him). He's been a silent commit for a reason.

[Commercecomet24]

Guidry to LSU does have an unintended benefit. The more WR they take the less it is likely Racey McMath goes there. We have to get Guidry or McMath I don't care which 1.

Almost forgot about McMath. He seems to have been flying under the radar a bit. He would be a good get too if we can't get guidry

[ShotgunDawg]

McMath still has a spot at LSU. He will be in their class unless something crazy happens (numbers aren't an issue with him). He's been a silent commit for a reason.

So LSU has like 7 big receivers & can't throw the ball, yet we have an offense ready made for a WR & can't get any?

I don't get it

[Cooterpoot]

Most of them are just born LSU fans and that's their dream.

[I seen it dawg]

Guidry to LSU. Done deal. Move on. Focus all on mcmath

[Ifyouonlyknew]

McMath still has a spot at LSU. He will be in their class unless something crazy happens (numbers aren't an issue with him). He's been a silent commit for a reason.

They get Guidry & Devonta Smith I wouldn't count on it. I've asked several people on LSU side & they don't think he's a silent commit.

[msstate7]

So LSU has like 7 big receivers & can't throw the ball, yet we have an offense ready made for a WR & can't get any?

I don't get it

Let me help you...

Lsu has had 15 WRs drafted since '00. Wanna compare that number to us?

[ShotgunDawg]

Let me help you...

Lsu has had 15 WRs drafted since '00. Wanna compare that number to us?

Yes. They've recruited extremely well at WR and we have not.

[bulldawg28]

Yes. They've recruited extremely well at WR and we have not.

The majority of those WR's are from Louisiana. Probably over 3/4

[Eric Nies Grind Time]

How does a school with one of the best CFB coaches in the country have this much trouble getting WR's? Great QB's = great opportunities for WR's. I don't see how this is hard to sell.

[Commercecomet24]

Guidry to LSU. Done deal. Move on. Focus all on mcmath

Yep! Have you SEEN McMath yet, I seen it?

[NeshobaChuck]

I can say first hand of all the coaches nobody is recruiting as hard as Peterson. I make deliveries to the team everyday and every time I'm up there Peterson is always on the phone with somebody doesn't mean its recruits could be anyone but still fwiw

[CadaverDawg]

Damn, we needed Guidry. We're 2 big time receivers from being damn near unstoppable on offense

[ShotgunDawg]

Damn, we needed Guidry. We're 2 big time receivers from being damn near unstoppable on offense

THIS. Hopefully we flip him, find someone else, or Todd or Couch steps up. Really stinks that we have this deadly of a QB play & scheme yet can't get offensive tackles or WRs to come play for us.

[HoopsDawg]

Yes. They've recruited extremely well at WR and we have not.

Exactly!!!

[Really Clark?]

Besides LaFell and Bowe, who else have they put in the league not from Louisiana?

[preachermatt83]

I can say first hand of all the coaches nobody is recruiting as hard as Peterson. I make deliveries to the team everyday and every time I'm up there Peterson is always on the phone with somebody doesn't mean its recruits could be anyone but still fwiw

Yup. He needs to be on the road recruiting.

[defiantdog]

Besides LaFell and Bowe, who else have they put in the league not from Louisiana?

Russell Shepard comes to mind

[ShotgunDawg]

Delete

[Really Clark?]

Russell Shepard comes to mind

I was looking at drafted players earlier but he did get to the league. LaFell and Shepard were from Houston. Most of the others are from LA that I remember. That's why I was asking. There maybe someone else missing though.

[Bothrops]

LSU has more receivers on roster than we do. They aren't gonna play all those guys. Unless McMath is a diehard LSU kid, we should be able get him on board.

[ShotgunDawg]

LSU has more receivers on roster than we do. They aren't gonna play all those guys. Unless McMath is a diehard LSU kid, we should be able get him on board.

It appears as though every one of them except Keytaon Thompson is a diehard LSU fan. Hopefully something will break our way.

As Cadaver stated, we are about two WRs & a decent tackle from being unstoppable on offense. You'd think it would be an attractive situation

[msstate7]

Lotta talk about wr's... what do you guys think about Austin Williams and monterio hunt?

[ShotgunDawg]

Lotta talk about wr's... what do you guys think about Austin Williams and monterio hunt?

Hopefully Austin Williams will turn into a Chris Doering type that's a big body, sure handed, & always finds ways to get open.

With Monterio Hunt, I see a slightly more physical version of Fred Brown

[jumbo]

Williams may grow into a TE

[Bothrops]

Hopefully Austin Williams will turn into a Chris Doering type that's a big body, sure handed, & always finds ways to get open.

With Monterio Hunt, I see a slightly more physical version of Fred Brown

Fred Brown was pretty physical.

[Todd4State]

Lotta talk about wr's... what do you guys think about Austin Williams and monterio hunt?

They're two laughably underrated WR's. Williams plays at a school that I think runs the Wing-T but he looked really good at the Army AA combine. He also has an offer to play at Harvard so you know he's pretty smart so he will fit in well and I love players like that.

Hunt missed most of his junior year and if he had played I think he would have been a four star slot WR prospect. We're probably going to put him in the slot and he's going to put up huge numbers and people are going to wonder where we found him.

[Vandelay Industries]

Haven't heard much about Clyde Edwards Hellaire lately, is he all LSU?

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

LSU fans think real high of him. So high in fact that they think he would start over Cam if they should get him.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Anyone know any info on Kain Daub. He was once the number 2 LB in the country and went to Florida St but left. I noticed we are CB'd to him. What's the story on him?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Anyone know any info on Kain Daub. He was once the number 2 LB in the country and went to Florida St but left. I noticed we are CB'd to him. What's the story on him?

He doesn't have a committable offer. Doubt you see him in a Power 5 conference. He's out of shape & hasn't looked good in juco.

[Bothrops]

Haven't heard much about Clyde Edwards Hellaire lately, is he all LSU?

Apparently he's really fired up about being coached by Canada. I can't confirm, but that's probably a closed door.

[maroonmania]

So are there NO decent WR recruiting options left for us outside of guys that are either in or from the state of Louisiana? I mean there are 49 other states.

[Cooterpoot]

Lotta talk about wr's... what do you guys think about Austin Williams and monterio hunt?

Williams will either grow into a unattached TE type or be a Rojo type WR. Hunt has more potential as a WR than Williams. He could be pretty good by his Jr/Sr year.

[bulldog2488]

Ari or IYOK...have y'all heard anything about Clyde Edwards-Helaire lately? I know there was talk about us flipping him if Akers went to LSU, but I haven't heard his name pop up lately.

[Ari Gold]

Ari or IYOK...have y'all heard anything about Clyde Edwards-Helaire lately? I know there was talk about us flipping him if Akers went to LSU, but I haven't heard his name pop up lately.

Everything's quiet right now. More will be known closer to signing day. If Akers chooses LSU ( I doubt he does) CEH is ours.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

LSU fans seem to think CEH would start over Cam if they did get Cam.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

LSU fans seem to think CEH would start over Cam if they did get Cam.

That's probably bc they've fell back in the Cam race. A month or 2 ago they were ready & willing to lose Clyde to MSU to get Cam.

[preachermatt83]

Cam ain't going to LSU.

[Bothrops]

We ain't getting CEH.

[Ari Gold]

We ain't getting CEH.

Not saying that CEH ends up at MSU in the end , But whats ur info that's saying we aren't?

[maroonmania]

Not saying that CEH ends up at MSU in the end , But whats ur info that's saying we aren't?

With Hill coming on board seems we are pretty set at RB with Williams, Lee, Gibson, Murphy and Hill unless someone decides they want to transfer. And that doesn't even count Dear who would be most effective if he would play RB. We are in a much bigger need for an impact WR.

[ShotgunDawg]

With Hill coming on board seems we are pretty set at RB with Williams, Lee, Gibson, Murphy and Hill unless someone decides they want to transfer. And that doesn't even count Dear who would be most effective if he would play RB. We are in a much bigger need for an impact WR.

Speaking of Dear, I think he missed his window to play RB for us. I think the combination of Williams, Gibson, & Hill is excellent with Mixon as the change the of pace guy. Not sure Dear is better than any of those guys.

[msstate7]

Speaking of Dear, I think he missed his window to play RB for us. I think the combination of Williams, Gibson, & Hill is excellent with Mixon as the change the of pace guy. Not sure Dear is better than any of those guys.

Dear needs to be 15-20 lbs lighter next season.

[maroonmania]

Could we make a trade with the Bears to give them one decent RB for one of their 50 WRs??***

[Bothrops]

Not saying that CEH ends up at MSU in the end , But whats ur info that's saying we aren't?

Since the Canada hire, they're making him a priority. If they get Akers, it could get interesting, but I still think they hang on in the end.

[Coach007]

Dixon

[CadaverDawg]

Dear needs to be 15-20 lbs lighter next season.

I agree

[ShotgunDawg]

Interesting that Akers just released a video saying he'd commit on the 28th. Wasn't he supposed to commit at the Army game? Why move it up?

[ShotgunDawg]

Of course Mr David is saying "this is good news for OM"

His reasoning: because Cam is announcing at home rather than in San Antonio

[preachermatt83]

Of course Mr David is saying "this is good news for OM"

His reasoning: because Cam is announcing at home rather than in San Antonio

He is right this time

[HoopsDawg]

He is right this time

Ole Miss is very confident.

[ShotgunDawg]

He is right this time

I would just find it absolutely stunning & a complete slap to the face of the NCAA if they land a player like him in this recruiting class. It would be absolutely blatantly clear what happened.

There's no way that any person with any common sense would understand that kid signing with that school under the current circumstances

[ShotgunDawg]

FWIW, the FSU 247 guy Nee said about an hour ago that's he's checked around with the other teams recruiting Akers tonight & said he's pretty sure Akers will be picking FSU.

So both sides think they are getting him

Additionally, there have been 9 247 crystal balls predict Cam to FSU over the past 3 days including 4 today. None of predicted him to OM.

So you guys may have excellent inside information that he's picking OM. It would be better information than basically every 247 recruiting guy that doesn't work for an OM site

[msstate7]

OM better hope they get Akers. If they don't, I bet the next immunity offer will be to him.

[msstate7]

To tell the truth, I'm more worried about the B. Dixon (juco LB) CBs to om than Akers. Om has an upcoming soph RB, pennamon that has the same size as Akers and held offers from everyone including bama. I want that gapping hole at LB for OM to stay there bc it won't matter how good their offense is if they can't stop anyone from running all over them.

[smootness]

To tell the truth, I'm more worried about the B. Dixon (juco LB) CBs to om than Akers. Om has an upcoming soph RB, pennamon that has the same size as Akers and held offers from everyone including bama. I want that gapping hole at LB for OM to stay there bc it won't matter how good their offense is if they can't stop anyone from running all over them.

You talking about Breon Dixon? He's a HS kid, not JUCO.

[msstate7]

You talking about Breon Dixon? He's a HS kid, not JUCO.

Wow... I completely whiffed on that.

[ShotgunDawg]

Wow... I completely whiffed on that.

He's a composite 4 star but only an 87 on 247. Doesn't sound like a difference maker either way.

[Tripp McNeely]

He's a composite 4 star but only an 87 on 247. Doesn't sound like a difference maker either way.

We'll sign two hs LBs that are better than he is this year...who cares

[msstate7]

He's a composite 4 star but only an 87 on 247. Doesn't sound like a difference maker either way.

They have no LBs. If Dixon is their LB target, I want them to miss. I didn't say I want Dixon... I don't want them to get him. I loved rushing for 1000 yards on them and we'll do it again if they don't come up with LBs

[Coach007]

You talking about Breon Dixon? He's a HS kid, not JUCO.


No Smootness. I'm talking about a WR. Everybody seems to be a little worried about that position. This camp guy is big and fast. He's unknown. Runs in the 4.3s

[Ifyouonlyknew]

CJ Avery shut his recruitment down. 100% committed to Louisville. I never bought that story about him flipping to OM. 1 less OM target off the board. A lot of people bad mouthed the kid unjustly because of rumors.

[defiantdog]

CJ Avery shut his recruitment down. 100% committed to Louisville. I never bought that story about him flipping to OM. 1 less OM target off the board. A lot of people bad mouthed the kid unjustly because of rumors.
But McGriff..... you know people love blowing smoke

[civildawg]

What's the connection with him and Louisville? Just seems odd

[Ifyouonlyknew]

He just ended up liking them better. He also saw a quicker path to the field.

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

I am hearing some interesting stuff this morning.

Things look very positive at this time for two big time recruits in Louisiana

And to the brethren up north, if Brewster feels this confident today. Talk about to be disappointed

[HoopsDawg]

I am hearing some interesting stuff this morning.

Things look very positive at this time for two big time recruits in Louisiana

And to the brethren up north, if Brewster feels this confident today. Talk about to be disappointed

Hopefully you are talking about McMath and Helaire. We need them both + the kicker down there.

[HoopsDawg]

I hate this time of the year when the UA All American and ARMY All-American games are going on and I turn it on to find no commits and maybe 1 or 2 prospects. This year its just Willie Gay. It would be fun to have a couple of guys to watch.

[HancockCountyDog]

He is right this time

The streak continues. Could you please predict us to go 0-12 so I can buy my playoff tickets now.

[msstate7]

The streak continues. Could you please predict us to go 0-12 so I can buy my playoff tickets now.

Missed you, buddy

[preachermatt83]

Been telling yal. Listen to me and u will never miss :cool:

[msstate7]

Looking at our targets listed on 247 and there isn't much there. Anyone have some names of guys we have a real shot at?

Do we have a shot at toryque Bateman?

[msstate7]

I see wigley hasn't signed with Colorado yet. Think we try and flip him?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I see wigley hasn't signed with Colorado yet. Think we try and flip him?

Wigley signed on signing day.

[msstate7]

Wigley signed on signing day.

Well that sucks... I just looked at their 247 page and it had 3 guys signed with wigley listed as commit still

[Ari Gold]

We addressed all of our early enroll needs except one.. CB
Later next week I will throw a few names out we are going to try and close

[Bothrops]

We need an outside receiver more than a CB.

[Tripp McNeely]

We need an outside receiver more than a CB.

We signed 3 last year...2 of those were 4-stars

[Bothrops]

We signed 3 last year...2 of those were 4-stars

I don't think we're losing anybody at CB.

[msstate7]

I don't think we're losing anybody at CB.

Adding Cleveland and dantzler to the mix too

[Bothrops]

Adding Cleveland and dantzler to the mix too

Yep, and it's time for our guys to step up. I've seen pretty much every bowl team so far defend the pass pretty damn well. Most CB's are not highly recruited.

[Bass Chaser]

Where does Landrews fit in the mix - CB or Safety?

[HoopsDawg]

Where does Landrews fit in the mix - CB or Safety?

Landrews ideal position is nickel corner.

[Ari Gold]

Like I said we hit all targets we wanted to hit for EE excpet for CB.. Nixon would have been that player.
There is going to be some attrition . And I'm betting some comes from the backend.

Gudiry was the target WR he is a Feb guy and we will target a few more WR but won't just take one because we missed Gudiry.
I keep telling everyone Todd is going to be a player. Couch will be much better next year and have bigger role and Mitchell is very talented.

[msbulldog]

Like I said we hit all targets we wanted to hit for EE excpet for CB.. Nixon would have been that player.
There is going to be some attrition . And I'm betting some comes from the backend.

Gudiry was the target WR he is a Feb guy and we will target a few more WR but won't just take one because we missed Gudiry.
I keep telling everyone Todd is going to be a player. Couch will be much better next year and have bigger role and Mitchell is very talented.

I agree on what you have said, Rando? I know we can sign back to last year, giving us the potential to sign 30-31 players. With the attrition we have already experienced this year (example Jonas Spivey, et al), can we add these losses to this years signing class? Are we going to end up with 75 scholarship players again this year?

[maroonmania]

Like I said we hit all targets we wanted to hit for EE excpet for CB.. Nixon would have been that player.
There is going to be some attrition . And I'm betting some comes from the backend.

Gudiry was the target WR he is a Feb guy and we will target a few more WR but won't just take one because we missed Gudiry.
I keep telling everyone Todd is going to be a player. Couch will be much better next year and have bigger role and Mitchell is very talented.

We need some speed guys at WR to help Fitz out at QB. I don't know that Fitz will ever get close to the level of accuracy that Dak got to but it would help Fitz out a great deal if we could have some receivers that can get some separation from DBs at times. When we play better teams it usually looks like our WRs are superglued to the opposing DBs.

[Tripp McNeely]

We need some speed guys at WR to help Fitz out at QB. I don't know that Fitz will ever get close to the level of accuracy that Dak got to but it would help Fitz out a great deal if we could have some receivers that can get some separation from DBs at times. When we play better teams it usually looks like our WRs are superglued to the opposing DBs.

Which is why the idea of Braylon Sanders is really starting to grow on me

[CadaverDawg]

What about Sederrian Archie (?)? We need DB help, and many think he's the sleeper of the class in MS. Why not scoop him up? I could see him being the next Dylan Bradley at USM....a career starter that could/should have been in the SEC

[Ifyouonlyknew]

What about Sederrian Archie (?)? We need DB help, and many think he's the sleeper of the class in MS. Why not scoop him up? I could see him being the next Dylan Bradley at USM....a career starter that could/should have been in the SEC

If I was taking a chance on an underrated DB I'd offer Amik Robertson from Louisiana.

[defiantdog]

If I was taking a chance on an underrated DB I'd offer Amik Robertson from Louisiana.

I understand the honey badger comparisons but this guy is smaller than Smitherman.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I understand the honey badger comparisons but this guy is smaller than Smitherman.

I think he has star potential if it hits though. If I'm going to take a chance I'm going with someone I think May can be a star.

[defiantdog]

I think he has star potential if it hits though. If I'm going to take a chance I'm going with someone I think May can be a star.
In right there with you, but is this a guy we put at the top of our DB board?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

In right there with you, but is this a guy we put at the top of our DB board?

No I wouldn't. I'm just saying if I'm going to reach on a guy late & take a flyer I would choose Robertson over Archie JMO.

[defiantdog]

No I wouldn't. I'm just saying if I'm going to reach on a guy late & take a flyer I would choose Robertson over Archie JMO.
What do you think about Naytron Culpepper..... I known it's a long shot, but I've heard the dude can play.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

What do you think about Naytron Culpepper..... I known it's a long shot, but I've heard the dude can play.

He's definitely a player. I think we can get an OV. After that you hope for the best.

[vv83]

Is DD Bowie an actual possibility now?

[jumbo]

I won't believe it until he signs

[ShotgunDawg]

Braylon Sanders WR from Georgia just set up a visit with us.

He's a 4 star on scout

88 3 star on 247 & an 87 3 star composite.

So Rivals & ESPN must think he's not very good.

Anyway, good to see us getting a visit.

How good is this guy?

Update: Just watched this guy's video & he's a solid player. Likely won't help us at the X receiver as he's only 6'0", but he's got a some Kevin Prentiss in him a slot guy. Actually reminds me a lot of a Gabe Myles type skill set or a kid OM signed last year named Trea Nixon

[Bothrops]

You obviously take him and would be a good get, but even if we do, we need to have McMath in this class.

[Goldendawg]

Per 24/7, we have 13 receivers on the roster and 2 commits. Do you see any attrition at this position? Surely we haven't missed on on multiple players at receiver. Are we overloaded with slot type players and short on the outside in experience, height, and talent?

[Really Clark?]

Per 24/7, we have 13 receivers on the roster and 2 commits. Do you see any attrition at this position? Surely we haven't missed on on multiple players at receiver. Are we overloaded with slot type players and short on the outside in experience, height, and talent?

Spivey has already announced he is transferring.

[ShotgunDawg]

Listening to the Boneyard & today Steve is talking about WRs.

Says there are 3 in play.

Racey McMath - Says LSU has had 5 WRs transfer & are needy at that position. Racey's former Edna Carr coach is on staff at LSU & that's the main relationship. Expects McMath to go to LSU.

DD Bowie - Says MSU "could" get Bowie, but says he still believes Bowie will sign with OM. Would mean something for Bowie to actually take a visit. Says Bowie hasn't stepped on MSU's campus is a long, long time.

Braylon Sanders - Says this is MSU's best chance to land a WR. Says Sanders is a good player, but won't be ready to play early. Will need a year or so to develop.

So.... that's the update on our stellar WR recruiting. I can't help but wonder how many of those 5 LSU WR transfers MSU could have gotten & used out of high school.

[HoopsDawg]

Listening to the Boneyard & today Steve is talking about WRs.

Says there are 3 in play.

Racey McMath - Says LSU has had 5 WRs transfer & are needy at that position. Racey's former Edna Carr coach is on staff at LSU & that's the main relationship. Expects McMath to go to LSU.

DD Bowie - Says MSU "could" get Bowie, but says he still believes Bowie will sign with OM. Would mean something for Bowie to actually take a visit. Says Bowie hasn't stepped on MSU's campus is a long, long time.

Braylon Sanders - Says this is MSU's best chance to land a WR. Says Sanders is a good player, but won't be ready to play early. Will need a year or so to develop.

So.... that's the update on our stellar WR recruiting. I can't help but wonder how many of those 5 LSU WR transfers MSU could have gotten & used out of high school.

We could have used them all, but couldn't have gotten any. Receiver after receiver continue to go to LSU, catch 5 passes then transfer. Diarse had a nice year for TCU this season.

[CadaverDawg]

Listening to the Boneyard & today Steve is talking about WRs.

Says there are 3 in play.

Racey McMath - Says LSU has had 5 WRs transfer & are needy at that position. Racey's former Edna Carr coach is on staff at LSU & that's the main relationship. Expects McMath to go to LSU.

DD Bowie - Says MSU "could" get Bowie, but says he still believes Bowie will sign with OM. Would mean something for Bowie to actually take a visit. Says Bowie hasn't stepped on MSU's campus is a long, long time.

Braylon Sanders - Says this is MSU's best chance to land a WR. Says Sanders is a good player, but won't be ready to play early. Will need a year or so to develop.

So.... that's the update on our stellar WR recruiting. I can't help but wonder how many of those 5 LSU WR transfers MSU could have gotten & used out of high school.

Welp. That doesn't sound too optimistic. Got a great QB & RB coming, but not much from a WR or OL standpoint. Damn how great it would be to have Lashley & AJ Brown right about now.

Question: What's the deal with Akers teammate, the WR? Why the hell cant we steal him from Iowa State? Is there something else to that? I've heard Steve say he felt he'd be a good WR, so what gives?

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[Ifyouonlyknew]

I'm not sold Racey is a take for LSU yet. He could by Signing Day but I don't think that's the case now. Watching Braylon Sanders play I think he needs a RS year to get bigger & stronger but he's a good WR. Kam White is a defensive player not WR.

[Really Clark?]

We have non-committed OL visiting this month and working some more.

[msstate7]

We have non-committed OL visiting this month and working some more.

Any tackles?

[ShotgunDawg]

Any tackles?

El OH EL

[Really Clark?]

Any tackles?

3 but one may be better at guard.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Welp. That doesn't sound too optimistic. Got a great QB & RB coming, but not much from a WR or OL standpoint. Damn how great it would be to have Lashley & AJ Brown right about now.

Question: What's the deal with Akers teammate, the WR? Why the hell cant we steal him from Iowa State? Is there something else to that? I've heard Steve say he felt he'd be a good WR he felt, so what gives?

Wasn't there talk of the Clinton coach being sour over one of our coaches banging his woman or something?

[PassInterference]

Yep, banned from Clinton High School.

The superintendent ought to be kicking some asses over that. How would you feel to have a teacher or counselor limit your career options because they had a personal grudge against a 3rd party?

[Really Clark?]

Whoa now. One of our coaches was not having an affair with one of their coaches wife. It goes back to their HC and Peterson when they were at Forest. Judd's wife is Petersons' ex-wife and there are issues between them but that was from years before hired on at State

[Bothrops]

Any tackles?

We got one guy that looks like a giant five year old visiting. Hope that helps..

[CadaverDawg]

Yep, banned from Clinton High School.

The superintendent ought to be kicking some asses over that. How would you feel to have a teacher or counselor limit your career options because they had a personal grudge against a 3rd party?

Not saying the hurt feelings aren't there, but I'm not buying the "banned from Clinton" stuff. If so, any and all MSU fans that reside in Clinton or have kids at that school should be ashamed for not causing hell over it by now. Besides, coaches can do in homes, phone calls, twitter, Xbox, you name it to get talking with these kids...not to mention getting them on our campus. If our coaches haven't found a way around this, they're lazier than anyone thinks. Hell, it's not like Iowa State comes trotting into Clinton once a week.

I just find that as a convenient excuse for losing a former MSU stronghold by our staff. If by some chance it really is that bad...It would be very very easy for Mullen to setup a meeting with Boswell & say "look, we won't send Peterson here...but let's work something out to keep from denying kids the options of their futures". If Boswell says "F you" to that, then he's a massive pile of shit and a big baby...and Clinton MSU fans should threaten to pull their kids & send them to private school...I guarandamntee you the Superintendent & everyone else would tell Ole Judd where he can shove it to keep from losing 70% of their kids.

But again, I doubt that it's anywhere near what people say it is. If Mullen or Gonzo or TBuck want to talk to White or Akers or anyone else...they can. Whether they've put in the effort is the question.

[bulldog2488]

This is absolutely not true about MSU coaches being banned from Clinton High School.


Yep, banned from Clinton High School.

The superintendent ought to be kicking some asses over that. How would you feel to have a teacher or counselor limit your career options because they had a personal grudge against a 3rd party?

[msbulldog]

Whoa now. One of our coaches was not having an affair with one of their coaches wife. It goes back to their HC and Peterson when they were at Forest. Judd's wife is Petersons' ex-wife and there are issues between them but that was from years before hired on at State

Correct, but could be bad blood, that's keeping us out of Clinton. That would have worked out when Mississippi signed Akers and 2 weeks later hired Boswell. Didn't happen, now we have a dick at Clinton, that's turning their players against us. It's kind of like Starkville last year.

[civildawg]

Barton Simmons just CB gay to lsu FYI

[Todd4State]

Not saying the hurt feelings aren't there, but I'm not buying the "banned from Clinton" stuff. If so, any and all MSU fans that reside in Clinton or have kids at that school should be ashamed for not causing hell over it by now. Besides, coaches can do in homes, phone calls, twitter, Xbox, you name it to get talking with these kids...not to mention getting them on our campus. If our coaches haven't found a way around this, they're lazier than anyone thinks. Hell, it's not like Iowa State comes trotting into Clinton once a week.

I just find that as a convenient excuse for losing a former MSU stronghold by our staff. If by some chance it really is that bad...It would be very very easy for Mullen to setup a meeting with Boswell & say "look, we won't send Peterson here...but let's work something out to keep from denying kids the options of their futures". If Boswell says "F you" to that, then he's a massive pile of shit and a big baby...and Clinton MSU fans should threaten to pull their kids & send them to private school...I guarandamntee you the Superintendent & everyone else would tell Ole Judd where he can shove it to keep from losing 70% of their kids.

But again, I doubt that it's anywhere near what people say it is. If Mullen or Gonzo or TBuck want to talk to White or Akers or anyone else...they can. Whether they've put in the effort is the question.

It absolutely happens in high school football sometimes. Bobby Hall is probably the worst when it comes steering players. The sad thing is the vast majority of high school coaches only want what is best for their players and if that means choosing the rival school then so be it. The only thing that is different here is the marital issues that are involved or the hard feelings because of those issues would probably be a better way of putting it.

Agree it shouldn't happen.

The fact of the matter is Clinton isn't going to do anything to a coach that has just won the 6A title for them for the first time ever I believe- or at least the first in recent memory. I wouldn't worry too much about this since the word on the street is Clinton doesn't have a lot of elite talent for the next few years.

[preachermatt83]

Barton Simmons just CB gay to lsu FYI

Bc he heard gay say what he did the other day about the LB decommitting from LSU.

[maroonmania]

This is absolutely not true about MSU coaches being banned from Clinton High School.

But it has to be true, I read it on the internet.***

[CadaverDawg]

It absolutely happens in high school football sometimes. Bobby Hall is probably the worst when it comes steering players. The sad thing is the vast majority of high school coaches only want what is best for their players and if that means choosing the rival school then so be it. The only thing that is different here is the marital issues that are involved or the hard feelings because of those issues would probably be a better way of putting it.

Agree it shouldn't happen.

The fact of the matter is Clinton isn't going to do anything to a coach that has just won the 6A title for them for the first time ever I believe- or at least the first in recent memory. I wouldn't worry too much about this since the word on the street is Clinton doesn't have a lot of elite talent for the next few years.

I didn't say "steering" doesn't happen. Of course it does. I said "banning from Clinton" likely isn't true, and even if it were happening, our coaches can still access kids from there. If not, they aren't trying.

[msstate7]

3 willie gay crystal balls to lsu in the last 24 hours

[ShotgunDawg]

3 willie gay crystal balls to lsu in the last 24 hours

They are just copying Barton. Robbie actually said that would happen. Same with Leo

MSU simply can't afford to miss on him and be able turn around and make any case that this program is moving forward. Insiders feel good about Willie.

I think we get him. Mullen just can't let happen two years in a row.

[CadaverDawg]

We lose Willie after losing AJ last year....Mullen will start getting some heat. Guys, we have a good program, but we cannot maintain or rise further missing on studs from Starkville. That's embarrassing and shows we're small time. Gotta land Willie

[Ari Gold]

My 2 cents on both Gainer and Willie ..
R.E.L.A.X.

AJ and Willie two different situations . We are in great shape with Willie , LSU will be a player for sure. Hell they should be with a top 2 player in Mississippi.
With Gainer he still may be in the class, if he isn't so be it, if he is so be it..

More to come later........

[Ari Gold]

3 willie gay crystal balls to lsu in the last 24 hours

Doesn't mean shit Until IYOK and Gold's crystal balls move away from Gay to State ( I seen it copyright )

[HSVDawg]

Gay being pursued hard by LSU isn't surprising. This is why the OM situation is somewhat of a double edged sword. Out of state schools are now going to see MS as wide open whereas before MSU and OM's joint resources were able to keep the elite kids in state for the most part. Now, we don't have to worry as much about OM but do have to worry a hell of a lot more about everybody else. That's why I'm not expecting us to start landing 8 or 9 of the Dandy Dozen every year during the OM probation.

[maroonmania]

Gay being pursued hard by LSU isn't surprising. This is why the OM situation is somewhat of a double edged sword. Out of state schools are now going to see MS as wide open whereas before MSU and OM's joint resources were able to keep the elite kids in state for the most part. Now, we don't have to worry as much about OM but do have to worry a hell of a lot more about everybody else. That's why I'm not expecting us to start landing 8 or 9 of the Dandy Dozen every year during the OM probation.

Pretty lame excuse if you ask me. If Gay goes to LSU just because OM is out of the way then we were never going to get him anyway. Just like we were never going to get Cam Akers. I only agree with your premise in that a lot of the guys over the past few years that we lost to OM where we THOUGHT we were second, we were not. Pretty much like the CJ Avery deal this year.

[Ari Gold]

Pretty lame excuse if you ask me. If Gay goes to LSU just because OM is out of the way then we were never going to get him anyway. Just like we were never going to get Cam Akers. I only agree with your premise in that a lot of the guys over the past few years that we lost to OM where we THOUGHT we were second, we were not. Pretty much like the CJ Avery deal this year.


Nothing like CJ Avery
He wasn't going to get on the field here for at least 2-3 years. And very possibly never at Auburn.
And not to talk down to a kid but he isnt a 4* talent.. he was for sure a take for us and a want but this only hurt us perception wise ..
He thought the best place for him to play was Louisville. Wish him all the best with the Cards and hope he has a very good career there.

[ShotgunDawg]

Just listened to Tom Luganbill talk about Keytaon Thompson on Bo Bounds and I sense that he's never actually seen him play. ESPN has him rated as a 79 3 star.

Bo asked about why Key wasn't in an all star game or in ESPN's top 300 and Luganbill replied that Key was too raw, too raw.

Did all this while glowing about Myles Brennen. Brennan can't hold Key's jock.

I respect Lug's opinion, but hard to imagine how he could miss this badly on Key. My only conclusion is that he hasn't seen them both play.

Btw, Key picked up a Clemson offer right before enrolling and an Oregon coach told Mike Detillier that Key was the best QB in the South

[sandwolf]

Btw, Key picked up a Clemson offer right before enrolling....

Didn't Herman also offer him and go after him pretty hard as soon as he got the Texas job?

[maroonmania]

Just listened to Tom Luganbill talk about Keytaon Thompson on Bo Bounds and I sense that he's never actually seen him play. ESPN has him rated as a 79 3 star.

Bo asked about why Key wasn't in an all star game or in ESPN's top 300 and Luganbill replied that Key was too raw, too raw.

Did all this while glowing about Myles Brennen. Brennan can't hold Key's jock.

I respect Lug's opinion, but hard to imagine how he could miss this badly on Key. My only conclusion is that he hasn't seen them both play.

Btw, Key picked up a Clemson offer right before enrolling and an Oregon coach told Mike Detillier that Key was the best QB in the South

That looks pretty bad on Lug's part if he can't at least take the time to look at Key's footage from the State championship game. I mean I don't have a clue how Key is not in every all-star game around after being the Louisiana Gatorade Player of the Year and his unreal stat line, especially given Key's size (I mean we are not talking about pint size Dylan Favre here putting up stats against inferior competition). And agreed, anyone who thinks Brennan above Key as a college football prospect should be dismissed out of hand.

[HSVDawg]

Pretty lame excuse if you ask me. If Gay goes to LSU just because OM is out of the way then we were never going to get him anyway. Just like we were never going to get Cam Akers. I only agree with your premise in that a lot of the guys over the past few years that we lost to OM where we THOUGHT we were second, we were not. Pretty much like the CJ Avery deal this year.

I wasn't making an excuse for us not getting him. I have no idea what his interest in LSU is. My point was, from a macro view, State and OM heavily consolidate their recruiting resources (both coaching staff and otherwise) on elite in-state kids. Over the past 10 years, it has been very difficult for out of state programs to get their foot in the door with the Jeffrey Simmons, AJ Brown, Leo Lewis types. The juice wasn't worth the squeeze, so they utilized their resources elsewhere. Now with OM out of the picture, you are going to start seeing more of a push from neighboring SEC and other Power 5 programs for a lot of these MS kids. It is inevitable and has already started with guys like Cam Akers.

[Bothrops]

I read where Gay is originally from Louisiana. Don't know if true or not, and no one should panic over it, but I believe LSU is a huge threat.

[Bothrops]

Just listened to Tom Luganbill talk about Keytaon Thompson on Bo Bounds and I sense that he's never actually seen him play. ESPN has him rated as a 79 3 star.

Bo asked about why Key wasn't in an all star game or in ESPN's top 300 and Luganbill replied that Key was too raw, too raw.

Did all this while glowing about Myles Brennen. Brennan can't hold Key's jock.

I respect Lug's opinion, but hard to imagine how he could miss this badly on Key. My only conclusion is that he hasn't seen them both play.

Btw, Key picked up a Clemson offer right before enrolling and an Oregon coach told Mike Detillier that Key was the best QB in the South

That's some dumb ass shit from Luganbill. Key is about as raw as 80-90% of the incoming freshmen qb's. He's a top 5 college qb in the country, I wouldn't say that if I didn't believe it. Espn has agenda, I will say that as well.

[jumbo]

Just listened to Tom Luganbill talk about Keytaon Thompson on Bo Bounds and I sense that he's never actually seen him play. ESPN has him rated as a 79 3 star.

Bo asked about why Key wasn't in an all star game or in ESPN's top 300 and Luganbill replied that Key was too raw, too raw.

Did all this while glowing about Myles Brennen. Brennan can't hold Key's jock.

I respect Lug's opinion, but hard to imagine how he could miss this badly on Key. My only conclusion is that he hasn't seen them both play.

Btw, Key picked up a Clemson offer right before enrolling and an Oregon coach told Mike Detillier that Key was the best QB in the South


ESPN likely only saw him at the Elite 11 regionals where he supposedly had a bad day. That was the reason he as a 3 star on 247 until game film was released.

[ShotgunDawg]

ESPN likely only saw him at the Elite 11 regionals where he supposedly had a bad day. That was the reason he as a 3 star on 247 until game film was released.

Ahh. Good ole 7 on 7 evaluations that have very little to do with moving a football team down the field. These are the same people that hated Dak and currently have the North Carolina QB as a better draft prospect than Deshaun Watson, who is CLEARLY the best QB in the country.

[ShotgunDawg]

I read where Gay is originally from Louisiana. Don't know if true or not, and no one should panic over it, but I believe LSU is a huge threat.

Kind of funny how between Saddique Charles and Gay it has become popular to be from Louisiana. Do any Louisiana or Alabama guys brag about being from MS?

Personally I see all this Gay and LSU stuff as a ploy to build up drama. I just can't imagine our staff, town, and alumni would allow another Starkville guy to leave.

I think we get him. Recruiting is full of sound and fury signifying nothing and see this as a lot of that.

[Bothrops]

Personally I see all this Gay and LSU stuff as a ploy to build up drama. I just can't imagine our staff, town, and alumni would allow another Starkville guy to leave.

Well I don't know about that.

[preachermatt83]

Kind of funny how between Saddique Charles and Gay it has become popular to be from Louisiana. Do any Louisiana or Alabama guys brag about being from MS?

Personally I see all this Gay and LSU stuff as a ploy to build up drama. I just can't imagine our staff, town, and alumni would allow another Starkville guy to leave.

I think we get him. Recruiting is full of sound and fury signifying nothing and see this as a lot of that.

I think it's down to us and LSU and I think it is 60/40

[msstate7]

Biscuiteater's post on sps...

"Yeah, and LSU is becoming desperate to sign a couple of LBs. They lose 2 SRs, have 0 commits, signed 0 two years ago & only 1 LB last year. They have made Willie Gay their #1 target. Summary from LSU's Dandy Don for those interested ..

LSU?s recruiting class suffered a blow yesterday when inside linebacker Monty Rice flipped from LSU to Georgia. Even before this happened, linebacker was LSU?s biggest remaining position of need in this year?s class with only outside linebacker Patrick Queen on board. Now, with Rice (6-1, 227, Madison, Ala.) set to enroll at Georgia this week, the need becomes even greater, especially at inside linebacker where LSU has no current commitments at all and will be without seniors Kendell Beckwith and Duke Riley this coming season. LSU?s trouble recruiting linebackers is nothing new, as last year LSU signed only one, and the year before signed none.


Shortly after the news broke of Rice?s de-commitment, it quickly traveled to San Antonio, Texas, where it was well-received by linebacker Willie Gay at the US Army Team East All-Stars practice. According to Jesse Simonton of SEC Country, Gay responded with, ?Did they have a linebacker de-commit today? Well tell them Willie Gay is on his way.? He went on to explain, ?With Coach Aranda, I?m going to get developed. The swagger. The family. The feeling. I just like the way they play football.? The article also says that Gay immediately encouraged Oklahoma linebacker commit Jacob Phillips, a top Tigers target, to join him at LSU."

....

I really hope that last line isn't true

[HSVDawg]

Biscuiteater's post on sps...

"Yeah, and LSU is becoming desperate to sign a couple of LBs. They lose 2 SRs, have 0 commits, signed 0 two years ago & only 1 LB last year. They have made Willie Gay their #1 target. Summary from LSU's Dandy Don for those interested ..

LSU?s recruiting class suffered a blow yesterday when inside linebacker Monty Rice flipped from LSU to Georgia. Even before this happened, linebacker was LSU?s biggest remaining position of need in this year?s class with only outside linebacker Patrick Queen on board. Now, with Rice (6-1, 227, Madison, Ala.) set to enroll at Georgia this week, the need becomes even greater, especially at inside linebacker where LSU has no current commitments at all and will be without seniors Kendell Beckwith and Duke Riley this coming season. LSU?s trouble recruiting linebackers is nothing new, as last year LSU signed only one, and the year before signed none.


Shortly after the news broke of Rice?s de-commitment, it quickly traveled to San Antonio, Texas, where it was well-received by linebacker Willie Gay at the US Army Team East All-Stars practice. According to Jesse Simonton of SEC Country, Gay responded with, ?Did they have a linebacker de-commit today? Well tell them Willie Gay is on his way.? He went on to explain, ?With Coach Aranda, I?m going to get developed. The swagger. The family. The feeling. I just like the way they play football.? The article also says that Gay immediately encouraged Oklahoma linebacker commit Jacob Phillips, a top Tigers target, to join him at LSU."

....

I really hope that last line isn't true

Welp.

[bulldog2488]

Ari or IYOK, how do you guys think we close in recruiting with the spots that we have left?

[ShotgunDawg]

Welp.

It's not a welp because our staff simply can't afford to miss on Gay. After a 5-7 year and missing on Lashley and Brown, the school simply can't sell that it's a big time program when they can't land Starkville players. I just don't see our university not going all in to get him. Can't let it happen again.

Gay to MSU makes too much sense. I think we get him.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Gay will be a Dawg!!

[preachermatt83]

If we lose two big recruits out of Starkville things wil get really uncomfortable in a hurry.

[HSVDawg]

It's not a welp because our staff simply can't afford to miss on Gay. After a 5-7 year and missing on Lashley and Brown, the school simply can't sell that it's a big time program when they can't land Starkville players. I just don't see our university not going all in to get him. Can't let it happen again.

Gay to MSU makes too much sense. I think we get him.

I hope you are right.

[defiantdog]

LSU actually needs OLBs..... so this may have legs. But Willie wants to play with Kobe and he's been wanting to play next to Leo for a while..... so there's that.

[smootness]

Why the heck would we listen to Dandy fricking Don?

[msstate7]

Why the heck would we listen to Dandy fricking Don?

No idea who even is. Just figured if he's dandy, then he's worth listening to haha

[Covercorner2]

Biscuiteater's post on sps...

"Yeah, and LSU is becoming desperate to sign a couple of LBs. They lose 2 SRs, have 0 commits, signed 0 two years ago & only 1 LB last year. They have made Willie Gay their #1 target. Summary from LSU's Dandy Don for those interested ..

LSU?s recruiting class suffered a blow yesterday when inside linebacker Monty Rice flipped from LSU to Georgia. Even before this happened, linebacker was LSU?s biggest remaining position of need in this year?s class with only outside linebacker Patrick Queen on board. Now, with Rice (6-1, 227, Madison, Ala.) set to enroll at Georgia this week, the need becomes even greater, especially at inside linebacker where LSU has no current commitments at all and will be without seniors Kendell Beckwith and Duke Riley this coming season. LSU?s trouble recruiting linebackers is nothing new, as last year LSU signed only one, and the year before signed none.


Shortly after the news broke of Rice?s de-commitment, it quickly traveled to San Antonio, Texas, where it was well-received by linebacker Willie Gay at the US Army Team East All-Stars practice. According to Jesse Simonton of SEC Country, Gay responded with, ?Did they have a linebacker de-commit today? Well tell them Willie Gay is on his way.? He went on to explain, ?With Coach Aranda, I?m going to get developed. The swagger. The family. The feeling. I just like the way they play football.? The article also says that Gay immediately encouraged Oklahoma linebacker commit Jacob Phillips, a top Tigers target, to join him at LSU."

....

I really hope that last line isn't true

That Monty Rice kid isn't even on the same planet in regards to talent as Gay. I don't even think Gay knew who he was. That should tell you something. There are about 50 better LBs in the country that LSU could go after. One is in their backyard and committed to Ole Miss. Seems to me as if he is just having a little fun in San Antonio, and this was a good opportunity for manufactured drama.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

That Monty Rice kid isn't even on the same planet in regards to talent as Gay. I don't even think Gay knew who he was. That should tell you something. There are about 50 better LBs in the country that LSU could go after. One is in their backyard and committed to Ole Miss. Seems to me as if he is just having a little fun in San Antonio, and this was a good opportunity for manufactured drama.

I understand what your point is but there aren't close to 50 better LB. May not be 10. Also Clarke can't hold a candle to Willie.

[preachermatt83]

I understand what your point is but there aren't close to 50 better LB. May not be 10. Also Clarke can't hold a candle to Willie.

Percentage we get gay?

[Cooterpoot]

Percentage we get gay?

Zero for me*

[Ari Gold]

Percentage we get gay?

Higher than LSU.

[HSVDawg]

Percentage we get gay?


Higher than LSU.

I don't know about that...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DJP6KH3ZOo8

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Percentage we get gay?

70%

[Ari Gold]

I don't know about that...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DJP6KH3ZOo8

RELAX

[Covercorner2]

I understand what your point is but there aren't close to 50 better LB. May not be 10. Also Clarke can't hold a candle to Willie.

I am talking about better than Rice. My point is I doubt a 5 star quality player like Gay is going to let someone like Rice affect his college decision.

[preachermatt83]

Zero for me*

I lol'd

[HSVDawg]

RELAX

I'm guessing that joke went over your head (or you didn't click the link)

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I am talking about better than Rice. My point is I doubt a 5 star quality player like Gay is going to let someone like Rice affect his college decision.

My bad totally mis-read that.

[Bothrops]

Percentage we get gay?

With no maroon glasses, I'd say 60%

[Vandelay Industries]

AG
‏@raceymcmath

My Top 3 Schools
1) Texas A&M
2) LSU
3) Mississippi State


Would love to land him

[Jarius]

Last year we were supposed to relax about AJ and Lashley. Gay May or may not come to state but those comments don't look good. We will find out in a couple of weeks.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Last year we were supposed to relax about AJ and Lashley. Gay May or may not come to state but those comments don't look good. We will find out in a couple of weeks.

"(That report) is kind of accurate,” Gay revealed. “I know they were already down bad at the linebacker position. The players they've got on their team, they're not really too good right now. They just had a decommitment, the other day, I forgot the guys name, Monty Rice or something like that? Him decommitting just leaves me an opportunity."
"Really all of my schools are even. LSU has probably got a little bit high, a little bit. I don't know where I'm going to go yet but LSU has moved up a little bit higher."

Do those comments sound better? From just the other day on Scout.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

don't get your hopes up. Might want to warm up to Braylon Sanders.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

I'm going 85%

[msstate7]

don't get your hopes up. Might want to warm up to Braylon Sanders.

McMath?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

don't get your hopes up. Might want to warm up to Braylon Sanders.

Braylon is a good player he's nothing to sneeze at. 6'1" 185lbs with good speed & good hands.

[Bothrops]

We are more likely to land Braylon than Willie Gay on a visit. Willie visits LSU on the 20th and that's a problem.

[Really Clark?]

We are more likely to land Braylon than Willie Gay on a visit. Willie visits LSU on the 20th and that's a problem.

Gay visits us next weekend with most of our instate guys and commits. That is the better date for him to be on campus with us. He was always going to take visits and already has.

[maroonmania]

Braylon is a good player he's nothing to sneeze at. 6'1" 185lbs with good speed & good hands.

Yea, SR on his show kind of downplayed any chance for MSU to pull McMath or Bowie. Sounded like Sanders is the much more likely candidate of the 3 to become an MSU Bulldog.

[msstate7]

Gay visits us next weekend with most of our instate guys and commits. That is the better date for him to be on campus with us. He was always going to take visits and already has.

Gotta list of next week's visitors?

[Jarius]

"(That report) is kind of accurate,? Gay revealed. ?I know they were already down bad at the linebacker position. The players they've got on their team, they're not really too good right now. They just had a decommitment, the other day, I forgot the guys name, Monty Rice or something like that? Him decommitting just leaves me an opportunity."
"Really all of my schools are even. LSU has probably got a little bit high, a little bit. I don't know where I'm going to go yet but LSU has moved up a little bit higher."

Do those comments sound better? From just the other day on Scout.

Sounds like LSU is a bit of a leader. Sounds like no one really knows where he will go, Just like no one knew where Lashley, Brown, Avery, and Jeff Simmons were going to go. Hopefully we don't let 2 elite SHS prospects get away in 2 years.

[ShotgunDawg]

Sounds like LSU is a bit of a leader. Sounds like no one really knows where he will go, Just like no one knew where Lashley, Brown, Avery, and Jeff Simmons were going to go. Hopefully we don't let 2 elite SHS prospects get away in 2 years.

Here's my advice: Recruiting interviews are useless. Time & time again, it's been shown that they mean nothing.

Actions & the opinions on insiders mean more. Listen to Ari, Rando, I seen it, IYOK, etc....

Cam Akers never took a visit to Ole Miss. AJ Brown never took a visit to MSU. Again, actions speak louder than words. Willie Gay has been going to MSU's practices all year, has a good friend on the team, & by all indications, has his head screwed on right.

LSU is certainly enticing. It was also extremely enticing to Leo Lewis, Jamal Peters, etc..... Listen to insiders & watch actions. Do not pay attention to recruiting interviews & try to break down what the recruit is saying. They are meaningless

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Yea, SR on his show kind of downplayed any chance for MSU to pull McMath or Bowie. Sounded like Sanders is the much more likely candidate of the 3 to become an MSU Bulldog.

If you're handicapping the odds of the 3 then Braylon is the front runner. I wouldn't say we lead for Racey or DD but if you get them in on an OV & you take your chances.

[msstate7]

If you're handicapping the odds of the 3 then Braylon is the front runner. I wouldn't say we lead for Racey or DD but if you get them in on an OV & you take your chances.

If Braylon is the favorite of that group, what's the % of landing him?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

If Braylon is the favorite of that group, what's the % of landing him?

75%

[CadaverDawg]

Here's my advice: Recruiting interviews are useless. Time & time again, it's been shown that they mean nothing.

Actions & the opinions on insiders mean more. Listen to Ari, Rando, I seen it, IYOK, etc....

Cam Akers never took a visit to Ole Miss. AJ Brown never took a visit to MSU. Again, actions speak louder than words. Willie Gay has been going to MSU's practices all year, has a good friend on the team, & by all indications, has his head screwed on right.

LSU is certainly enticing. It was also extremely enticing to Leo Lewis, Jamal Peters, etc..... Listen to insiders & watch actions. Do not pay attention to recruiting interviews & try to break down what the recruit is saying. They are meaningless

The flip side is CJ Avery spent a lot of time on campus didn't he?

But I agree with your overall premise. I'm actually expecting Willie to sign with LSU. At least that way I don't get my hopes up.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Braylon is a good player he's nothing to sneeze at. 6'1" 185lbs with good speed & good hands.

I never said he wasn't good. We just have a better shot at him than McMath

[HoopsDawg]

If you're handicapping the odds of the 3 then Braylon is the front runner. I wouldn't say we lead for Racey or DD but if you get them in on an OV & you take your chances.

McMath isn't even visiting us is he? I thought he had LSU and A&M lined up the next 2 weekends.

[Jarius]

Here's my advice: Recruiting interviews are useless. Time & time again, it's been shown that they mean nothing.

Actions & the opinions on insiders mean more. Listen to Ari, Rando, I seen it, IYOK, etc....

Cam Akers never took a visit to Ole Miss. AJ Brown never took a visit to MSU. Again, actions speak louder than words. Willie Gay has been going to MSU's practices all year, has a good friend on the team, & by all indications, has his head screwed on right.

LSU is certainly enticing. It was also extremely enticing to Leo Lewis, Jamal Peters, etc..... Listen to insiders & watch actions. Do not pay attention to recruiting interviews & try to break down what the recruit is saying. They are meaningless

I'm not just reading the article. I'm also looking at the recent crystal ball predictions from people like Barton Simmons. I appreciate people giving info here and hope I'm not coming off like I don't. It's just concerning when people well respected like Barton Simmons make those type predictions. We need Gay really really bad and hopefully it will work out for us.

[ShotgunDawg]

The flip side is CJ Avery spent a lot of time on campus didn't he?

But I agree with your overall premise. I'm actually expecting Willie to sign with LSU. At least that way I don't get my hopes up.

Yeah, I can't explain CJ. That's an extremely odd decision.

As for your strategy of expecting Willie to sign with LSU, I understand why MSU feel that way, but I just wish that feeling would go away. I often do the same thing, but it feels like that kind of thinking lowers the expectations & ultimately the ceiling of our program.

I would rather expect to sign Willie, AJ, Lashley, etc.. & then be irate afterwards if we don't. That way people will be held accountable for failures & the program can move forward. I just don't see how things can move forward if everyone is always expecting bad things to happen.

I certainly get it the feeling. Just my two cents.

[CadaverDawg]

Yeah, I can't explain CJ. That's an extremely odd decision.

As for your strategy of expecting Willie to sign with LSU, I understand why MSU feel that way, but I just wish that feeling would go away. I often do the same thing, but it feels like that kind of thinking lowers the expectations & ultimately the ceiling of our program.

I would rather expect to sign Willie, AJ, Lashley, etc.. & then be irate afterwards if we don't. That way people will be held accountable for failures & the program can move forward. I just don't see how things can move forward if everyone is always expecting bad things to happen.

I certainly get it the feeling. Just my two cents.

Well I tried the other way when we lost AJ & Lashley, but nothing changed. So I'm going the other route, ha

[Ifyouonlyknew]

McMath isn't even visiting us is he? I thought he had LSU and A&M lined up the next 2 weekends.

I expect him to OV. May be 1/27

[HoopsDawg]

I expect him to OV. May be 1/27

Hope so, we don't typically have a lot of success that last weekend. Our big in-state is next weekend, our out of state is the next weekend when he will be at A&M, so 1/27 will be a very small group if at all. And at that point he will know if he has a firm LSU offer.

[msstate7]

Are there WRs to keep an eye on with lsu that can help us with mcmath?

[Really Clark?]

Gotta list of next week's visitors?

Hill, Gay, Odom, Hunt, Suggs, Stephen Guidry, maybe Day the punter but he may come the same weekend as Buvilos the kicker, we will see if Bowie shows up but it is tentative for the 13th weekend. As always additions and subtraction will be fluid

[msstate7]

Hill, Gay, Odom, Hunt, Suggs, Stephen Guidry, maybe Day the punter but he may come the same weekend as Buvilos the kicker, we will see if Bowie shows up but it is tentative for the 13th weekend. As always additions and subtraction will be fluid

Guidry solid to lsu?

[Really Clark?]

Guidry solid to lsu?

Yeah I don't think it changes unless LSU gets an influx of prospects that may make him expendable or he feels like playing time here and how much we really want him really out weighs the hometown team. We were getting him and he really likes us until the last min deal with LSU. You always want to get an OV shot with someone like him.

[bulldog2488]

Does anybody know how legit of a chance we have at landing the punter and kicker that's currently committed to Georgia Tech? I'd love to secure some solid kickers.

[HoopsDawg]

Guidry solid to lsu?

I think he meant Landon Guidry.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I think he meant Landon Guidry.

Naw Stephen Guidry is supposed to OV next weekend.

[HoopsDawg]

Naw Stephen Guidry is supposed to OV next weekend.

I figured the recruiting guys hadn't updated their websites. I'd be surprised if he makes it in.

[Really Clark?]

I figured the recruiting guys hadn't updated their websites. I'd be surprised if he makes it in.

The coaches are still expecting him to visit right now and has been solid about that

[HoopsDawg]

The coaches are still expecting him to visit right now and has been solid about that

Good, that at least gives us a chance and it gives Guidry a backup plan.

[Really Clark?]

Good, that at least gives us a chance and it gives Guidry a backup plan.

I agree completely and think it's a good move for all involved.

[Bass Chaser]

How did Guidry end up at McNeese St. out of high school?