Football Transfer Portal Thread

[StarkVegasSteve]

Robbie Faulk reporting that Ahmad Breaux, LSU DL, will be visiting on Sunday.

[Coursesuper]

Yeah, very underwhelming list. Not going to jump the gun here, but if that's the kind of players were in on shows me we aren't serious and don't have the money. It's early though

This kind of uninformed thinking would be the same as confederates who said last year, why would be bringing in the D-II quarterback?

[HancockCountyDog]

This kind of uninformed thinking would be the same as confederates who said last year, why would be bringing in the D-II quarterback?

This feels a lot like the posters who would always say McKinney was a two star QB and now he is an ALL SEC LB. You can't build a competitive roster using the exception instead of the rule.

I love the Breaux news, perfect type player for us. He had a really solid freshman season, they recruited through the portal over him, and he didn't play much this year, but he has shown that he can handle this level.

[StarkVegasSteve]

This feels a lot like the posters who would always say McKinney was a two star QB and now he is an ALL SEC LB. You can't build a competitive roster using the exception instead of the rule.

I love the Breaux news, perfect type player for us. He had a really solid freshman season, they recruited through the portal over him, and he didn't play much this year, but he has shown that he can handle this level.

He was LSU's defensive freshman of the year after the 24 season. He's a guy you have to win a battle for. You're getting a guy who has produced at a name program. Did they recruit over him? Yes. But the perception is that you got a kid from LSU. That's the type of perception wins you need early on.

[Thick]

He was LSU's defensive freshman of the year after the 24 season. He's a guy you have to win a battle for. You're getting a guy who has produced at a name program. Did they recruit over him? Yes. But the perception is that you got a kid from LSU. That's the type of perception wins you need early on.

Bingo!!

[DEDawg]

This kind of uninformed thinking would be the same as confederates who said last year, why would be bringing in the D-II quarterback?

Take your red herring argument elsewhere man. If you want to use the exception to the rule as a standard, go for it. You won't be happy with the results.

[DEDawg]

This feels a lot like the posters who would always say McKinney was a two star QB and now he is an ALL SEC LB. You can't build a competitive roster using the exception instead of the rule.

I love the Breaux news, perfect type player for us. He had a really solid freshman season, they recruited through the portal over him, and he didn't play much this year, but he has shown that he can handle this level.

Beat me to it. Would be crazy to point at Ole Miss and say look they have the #4 Transfer class with 10 4 stars, but ignore all that look at the d2 QB that is a once in a generation find as the model we need to follow. head in the sand.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Marquis Johnson, WR from Mizzou, is visiting either Sunday or Monday.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Lucas Simmons, FSU OL, is expected to visit soon. Will also visit Ga Tech, Wisconsin, UGA, and James Madison.

He's 6'8 308

[Coursesuper]

Take your red herring argument elsewhere man. If you want to use the exception to the rule as a standard, go for it. You won't be happy with the results.

You called the list underwhelming, there’s no red herring. I can’t fix willful ignorance. We have that in bulk. This day and age, with our situation every stone has to be turned over, all avenues must be examined.

[Coursesuper]

Lucas Simmons, FSU OL, is expected to visit soon. Will also visit Ga Tech, Wisconsin, UGA, and James Madison.

He's 6'8 308

We have to hit on some of these guys, keep casting a wide net.

[Pancho]

You called the list underwhelming, there?s no red herring. I can?t fix willful ignorance. We have that in bulk. This day and age, with our situation every stone has too turned over all avenues must be examined.

amen to this. half these folks need to just hush

[StarkVegasSteve]

We have to hit on some of these guys, keep casting a wide net.

We're casting a very wide net. We didn't have this type of structure any previous portal cycle. We have 11 ANNOUNCED visits so far. From what I've been told we have 5-6 more that haven't been announced. We're still waiting on one particular OL to hop in the portal.

[HancockCountyDog]

Look for Kentucky to try and be a player for every solid portal prospect. They don't have an expensive roster currently and they are putting huge offers on the table to get kids to visit.

Same for Vandy.

[Coursesuper]

Look for Kentucky to try and be a player for every solid portal prospect. They don't have an expensive roster currently and they are putting huge offers on the table to get kids to visit.

Same for Vandy.

Add in the rest of teams not in the playoffs and some of them.

[DEDawg]

You called the list underwhelming, there’s no red herring. I can’t fix willful ignorance. We have that in bulk. This day and age, with our situation every stone has to be turned over, all avenues must be examined.

Do I really have to hold your hand through this? The red herring is pointing at Chambliss as a D2 generational flash in a pan and ignoring the other 99% of what is working across the entire nation. Including Ole Miss by the way.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Look for Kentucky to try and be a player for every solid portal prospect. They don't have an expensive roster currently and they are putting huge offers on the table to get kids to visit.

Same for Vandy.

Kentucky's issue is that they are chasing a bunch of big fish and may miss on all of them. We are chasing 5 to 6 and we're also chasing that second tier that are quality SEC starters. I know Kentucky has raised the price significantly on a couple of portal QBs.

[DEDawg]

Kentucky's issue is that they are chasing a bunch of big fish and may miss on all of them. We are chasing 5 to 6 and we're also chasing that second tier that are quality SEC starters. I know Kentucky has raised the price significantly on a couple of portal QBs.

To be seen but I think that is exactly what we need to do. Spend probably 40% of our transfer pool on 3-5 guys and then do deep evaluations and play money ball on the tier 2 and 3 guys

[StarkVegasSteve]

A blast from the past, Mario Nash will be visiting Monday. If he's a take I imagine he will commit.

[RisperDawg]

A blast from the past, Mario Nash will be visiting Monday. If he's a take I imagine he will commit.

Would like to see a Kemper kid blocking for a Noxubee kid at State.

[HancockCountyDog]

A blast from the past, Mario Nash will be visiting Monday. If he's a take I imagine he will commit.

Happy to take a flyer on him on a prove it deal.

[Coursesuper]

A blast from the past, Mario Nash will be visiting Monday. If he's a take I imagine he will commit.

Did he ever play at FSU?

[mparkerfd20]

Nm

[Young dawg]

Depending on how bad kt is injured is lebby going to try and get Arnold?

[Brobi-wan]

Depending on how bad kt is injured is lebby going to try and get Arnold?

Not if he wants to keep his job

[HancockCountyDog]

Did he ever play at FSU?

No, if he is take, it better be on a team friendly deal.

[Coursesuper]

Do I really have to hold your hand through this? The red herring is pointing at Chambliss as a D2 generational flash in a pan and ignoring the other 99% of what is working across the entire nation. Including Ole Miss by the way.

You called our list underwhelming. *******it I hate our 17ing people. No wonder we are dog shat horrible. We get exactly what we deserve.

[bulldawg28]

Not if he wants to keep his job

Lol, truth!

[Young dawg]

Yeah I wouldn?t be a fan of the move, but he?s familiar with the offense so I wouldn?t be shocked

[DEDawg]

You called our list underwhelming. *******it I hate our 17ing people. No wonder we are dog shat horrible. We get exactly what we deserve.
I am sorry that hurt your feelings.

[HancockCountyDog]

You called our list underwhelming. *******it I hate our 17ing people. No wonder we are dog shat horrible. We get exactly what we deserve.

Are we actually supposed to pretend it is impressive?

Are we at that stage?

I will gladly support our coach if he is getting visits from legit SEC level transfers. I am not going to pretend a transfer who has never done anything meaningful on the field is a good pickup.

[HancockCountyDog]

Not sure they will get them, but Kentucky has visits scheduled with:

#1 ranked QB Sam Leavitt
#3 ranked WR Deandre Moore Jr
#8 ranked RB CJ Baxter
#7 ranked LB Robert Woodyard Jr

Don?t tell me we can?t compete with UK or that kids want to go play at UK as opposed to us.

[BigDawg81]

Ok State IOL on campus today

[BigDawg81]

A lot of visitors this weekend. Any news?

[BigDawg81]

Missouri WR Marquis Johnson has commited to State

[StarkVegasSteve]

Big first commitment with Marquis Johnson.

[StarkVegasSteve]

A lot of visitors this weekend. Any news?

I would expect AJ Swann to commit pretty soon. Would also expect Daniel Harris from UGA to commit.

We are cautiously optimistic about Grant Seagren from Ok State

[HancockCountyDog]

Big first commitment with Marquis Johnson.

Great first pickup.

[Todd4State]

I would expect AJ Swann to commit pretty soon. Would also expect Daniel Harris from UGA to commit.

We are cautiously optimistic about Grant Seagren from Ok State

We're putting in work!

[DEDawg]

Missouri WR Marquis Johnson has commited to State

Let's go, exact type of pickup we need. Guy who was P4 experience and all the potential but hasn't fully gotten there yet. Go get a bunch of those guys then overspend on a few of the bigger fish to balance it out

[Thick]

HailState!!!

[BigDawg81]

We really need the edge rusher from Tennessee

[HancockCountyDog]

Really nice first day. Great job keeping Kelley,

I do not want to hear about being cheap again, we paid up big time to keep him. That is what you do when you have a player with his talent.

[Young dawg]

Keeping Kelly is huge. You basically just signed a 5 star corner

[Todd4State]

Jayson Jenkins- DE/DT from Florida State with the crystal ball from Rosebowl.

[HancockCountyDog]

Jayson Jenkins- DE/DT from Florida State with the crystal ball from Rosebowl.

Lets hope he is ready to break out, because he fits the mold of the players we have been signing on the DL out of the portal.

[CadaverDawg]

Lets hope he is ready to break out, because he fits the mold of the players we have been signing on the DL out of the portal.

Is that good or bad? Haha

[Maroon Glasses]

Is that good or bad? Haha

If he turns out like the previous DL we got our of the portal then bad. Lol. I think that's what he is saying. From what I can see, he is graded pretty high and has pretty good stats. Seems to be a good get!

[Todd4State]

Lets hope he is ready to break out, because he fits the mold of the players we have been signing on the DL out of the portal.

I think Turner was an issue though.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Up to 33 transfers out currently. And honestly.....like two of them are guys we would have liked to have kept.

[HancockCountyDog]

Up to 33 transfers out currently. And honestly.....like two of them are guys we would have liked to have kept.

I swear I saw on twitter where Jimothy is actually visiting Bama. How the mighty have fallen. I mean I liked the kid and thought he had potential, but if Bama is taking our OL from this year's team, they need to look in the mirror.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I swear I saw on twitter where Jimothy is actually visiting Bama. How the mighty have fallen. I mean I liked the kid and thought he had potential, but if Bama is taking our OL from this year's team, they need to look in the mirror.

Jimothy has a lot of talent. Blue Bloods think they have all the answers so they think they can make the production match the talent. I watched the kid all year, I don't see it. There's a reason he was replaced at IMG.

[DEDawg]

Up to 33 transfers out currently. And honestly.....like two of them are guys we would have liked to have kept.

Burnside and who's the other? Also just saw Chambliss is staying at Ole Miss if his waiver is approved.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Burnside and who's the other? Also just saw Chambliss is staying at Ole Miss if his waiver is approved.

I'm glad we got rid of Burnside. He was hellbent on playing a position that he can't play at the FBS level.

The ones I would've liked to have kept are Tony Mitchell and probably Seth Davis.

The two the staff wanted to keep are Mitchell and Jimothy. They still thought they could make something out of him.


On Chambliss, that waiver is not getting approved. If it does it will open the floodgates to approve every kid that didn't get to play a medical redshirt. They're literally trying to say that he had bronchitis one year at Ferris St and that he should've gotten a medical r/s for that.

[DEDawg]

I'm glad we got rid of Burnside. He was hellbent on playing a position that he can't play at the FBS level.

The ones I would've liked to have kept are Tony Mitchell and probably Seth Davis.

The two the staff wanted to keep are Mitchell and Jimothy. They still thought they could make something out of him.


On Chambliss, that waiver is not getting approved. If it does it will open the floodgates to approve every kid that didn't get to play a medical redshirt. They're literally trying to say that he had bronchitis one year at Ferris St and that he should've gotten a medical r/s for that.

We will see, the argument is he would qualify under the current rules for a RS but didn't at the time at Ferris. I think everyone outside of State fans would want him back to make CFB a better product next year. But the thing is, just how much money does Ole Miss have? Between him and Lacy that has to be close to 5-6M just on 2 players. Crazy

[StarkVegasSteve]

We will see, the argument is he would qualify under the current rules for a RS but didn't at the time at Ferris. I think everyone outside of State fans would want him back to make CFB a better product next year. But the thing is, just how much money does Ole Miss have? Between him and Lacy that has to be close to 5-6M just on 2 players. Crazy

If what I heard they are offering Lacy is true then he is going to be staying at OM. And if that's true, which I believe it is, they will have over 7 million dollars tied up into 2 players.

[CadaverDawg]

If what I heard they are offering Lacy is true then he is going to be staying at OM. And if that's true, which I believe it is, they will have over 7 million dollars tied up into 2 players.

They have it, that's what they saved of Kiffin's contract when he left them.

We need Ole Miss to lose one of the next two, and Golding to be what I think he will be, which is a 8-5 type coach....and have Ole Miss come back to reality. But they are really doing the right things necessary to try and maintain the momentum. Can Golding and his new staff deliver is the key. The talent looks Like it will be there, but how much of the results was Lane and Weis?

[StarkVegasSteve]

They have it, that's what they saved of Kiffin's contract when he left them.

We need Ole Miss to lose one of the next two, and Golding to be what I think he will be, which is a 8-5 type coach....and have Ole Miss come back to reality. But they are really doing the right things necessary to try and maintain the momentum. Can Golding and his new staff deliver is the key. The talent looks Like it will be there, but how much of the results was Lane and Weis?

I don't think they can. Whether they like it or not, Weis and Kiffin seem to be the key to their success. I think the financial commitment will still be there for at least 2 seasons. But the coaching drop off is going to be a thing. Whether I like admitting it or not, Weis called a really good game the other night and Chambliss made some out of his mind plays. I know one of them won't be at OM next year and I don't believe the other one will be either.

[Pancho]

If what I heard they are offering Lacy is true then he is going to be staying at OM. And if that's true, which I believe it is, they will have over 7 million dollars tied up into 2 players.

I'm told this morning that Kewan is now staying but i was given no dollar amount. 2 things, RB coach smith was sent to oxford this week to get Lacy for Kiffin but it hasn't happened yet. Cox and McDonald are not in Oxford at all coaching. 2nd thing, will Kewan change his mind when Chambliss waiver is rejected?

[StarkVegasSteve]

I'm told this morning that Kewan is now staying but i was given no dollar amount. 2 things, RB coach smith was sent to oxford this week to get Lacy for Kiffin but it hasn't happened yet. Cox and McDonald are not in Oxford at all coaching. 2nd thing, will Kewan change his mind when Chambliss waiver is rejected?

I talked to a few people in BR this weekend and they were concerned that Lane didn't have as tight a grip on the Lacy situation as some were led to believe. The offer I heard was somewhere between 2.5-3 million. LSU thought they had him locked at 1.8 last week.

[TrapGame]

The OC replacing Kiffin/Weiss at OM is like Barbay replacing Mike Leach. His resume is very mediocre.

[StarkVegasSteve]

The OC replacing Kiffin/Weiss at OM is like Barbay replacing Mike Leach. His resume is very mediocre.

It's John David Baker. A lot of people thought he was going to be our TE when Lebby was first hired by ECU made him the OC/QB Coach. He's an ok playcaller but he's a few steps down from Weis/Kiffin.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Jayson Jenkins from Florida St has committed.

[DEDawg]

I talked to a few people in BR this weekend and they were concerned that Lane didn't have as tight a grip on the Lacy situation as some were led to believe. The offer I heard was somewhere between 2.5-3 million. LSU thought they had him locked at 1.8 last week.

If they want to pay a RB 3M you let them all day and laugh all the way back to BR

[DEDawg]

Jayson Jenkins from Florida St has committed.

Nice. I like we are going after P4 guys. Want to see some more DL and OL roll in hopefully

[Todd4State]

I'm glad we got rid of Burnside. He was hellbent on playing a position that he can't play at the FBS level.

The ones I would've liked to have kept are Tony Mitchell and probably Seth Davis.

The two the staff wanted to keep are Mitchell and Jimothy. They still thought they could make something out of him.


On Chambliss, that waiver is not getting approved. If it does it will open the floodgates to approve every kid that didn't get to play a medical redshirt. They're literally trying to say that he had bronchitis one year at Ferris St and that he should've gotten a medical r/s for that.

Ole Miss could get Charles Manson eligible for football if they wanted to. So based on that I'm guessing they'll get him back next year.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Koby Keenum transferring out. Probably indicative that we've got a C transfer that we feel pretty good about.

[HoopsDawg]

Jayson Jenkins from Florida St has committed.

Has he shown any signs that he can play?

[Turfdawg67]

I don't think they can. Whether they like it or not, Weis and Kiffin seem to be the key to their success. I think the financial commitment will still be there for at least 2 seasons. But the coaching drop off is going to be a thing. Whether I like admitting it or not, Weis called a really good game the other night and Chambliss made some out of his mind plays. I know one of them won't be at OM next year and I don't believe the other one will be either.

You really don't think a law school can get this waiver approved? Unless we just don't hear about it, these days if you threaten to sue it seems like the NCAA bows down.

[StarkVegasSteve]

You really don't think a law school can get this waiver approved? Unless we just don't hear about it, these days if you threaten to sue it seems like the NCAA bows down.

Well the guy they're hoping can get it approved went to law school at Arkansas. Interestingly enough, he's also the guy who inadvertently took down Hugh Freeze.

[HancockCountyDog]

Has he shown any signs that he can play?

I'm concerned that those type questions aren't allowed right now.

I'm all for going after P4 guys. I really liked us going after Breaux at LSU. This one, not so much, but I don't want to get hammered for being too negative.

[Goldendawg]

Up to 33 transfers out currently. And honestly.....like two of them are guys we would have liked to have kept.

So up to 33? I quit updating my thread on this with specific names and info, as the portal is worse than NIL and entirely out of hand. I agree that only about 2 of these 33 to date are losses. That being said, many of these 33 are Lebby guys, either from HS, JC, or recent portals. Does this show we made terrible evaluations, that you had no time to develop, or that we got who we could in the last two rounds, as we are "poor old MSU"? Or a combination of the three in this very imperfect storm?

I read over 3800 players hit the portal. No one, the NCAA, Courts, Congress has the guts to address that the last few years, only about 50% of these players land anywhere, and there goes the "Student athlete" degree in something, even if earned by their tutors for them.

[StarkVegasSteve]

So up to 33? I quit updating my thread on this with specific names and info, as the portal is worse than NIL and entirely out of hand. I agree that only about 2 of these 33 to date are losses. That being said, many of these 33 are Lebby guys, either from HS, JC, or recent portals. Does this show we made terrible evaluations, that you had no time to develop, or that we got who we could in the last two rounds, as we are "poor old MSU"? Or a combination of the three in this very imperfect storm?

I read over 3800 players hit the portal. No one, the NCAA, Courts, Congress has the guts to address that the last few years, only about 50% of these players land anywhere, and there goes the "Student athlete" degree in something, even if earned by their tutors for them.

Some of it is bad evals, some of it is we bought low and hoped they'd hit, and some it is just we needed any kind of depth last year and now we don't need as much and the depth we needs will need to be guys that can contribute. I'll try to give you an example of all 3:

Bad Eval- There's a lot I could use but we'll just use the most recent, Koby Keenum. This is a guy that was brought in to be the starter either this past year or next year at C. He just never developed into what we thought he'd be.

Bought Low: Cam Thompson-Transferred in from NIU and you were basically just hoping he could be a speedster for you. In a perfect world he catches 15/155/2 and one of those 2 TDs is one where he breaks a big one on a missed tackle

Just Needed Depth: Max Reese and Emeka Iloh-We just needed depth at the TE position. We had Traore and then we got Sam West. We needed more depth there. Now we need better depth.

[bulldawg28]

Jayson Jenkins from Florida St has committed.

Nice, he's a tall lean fast, quick burst guy. Is there any chance #8 Syllas ( I think) on defense gets another year? He was heavily underused this year imo. Those two at ends will cause havoc.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Nice, he's a tall lean fast, quick burst guy. Is there any chance #8 Syllas ( I think) on defense gets another year? He was heavily underused this year imo. Those two at ends will cause havoc.

I'll be honest. I have absolutely no clue in regards to eligibility anymore. Pavia is going to keep filing injunctions until he's 65. Chambliss might get a retroactive medial redshirt because of bronchitis. Brenen Thompson is trying to get an additional year and I have no clue of the grounds of it. Like it's crazy. I just wish they'd give everyone 5 to play 5 and move along at this point.

[bulldawg28]

I'll be honest. I have absolutely no clue in regards to eligibility anymore. Pavia is going to keep filing injunctions until he's 65. Chambliss might get a retroactive medial redshirt because of bronchitis. Brenen Thompson is trying to get an additional year and I have no clue of the grounds of it. Like it's crazy. I just wish they'd give everyone 5 to play 5 and move along at this point.

I agree. It honestly would definitely keep guys in college and keep it interesting. I honestly think we're going to start seeing guys stay at schools because if your not a top guy the risk vs reward is going to have guys weigh the options better.

[Todd4State]

Harvey Dyson an EDGE from Tulane rumored to be visiting. Seems like he would be a really good pick up.

[StarkVegasSteve]

AJ Swann has committed. Probably the best backup you could hope for with Kamario being the entrenched starter.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Harvey Dyson an EDGE from Tulane rumored to be visiting. Seems like he would be a really good pick up.

Would be an INCREDIBLE pickup.

[Maroon Glasses]

Would be an INCREDIBLE pickup.

Yes it would. We need to be raiding rosters from schools like Tulane and JMU. They have a few guys in the trenches that could play in the SEC. And I'm not talking about their average guys. They had a few guys that would stood out on their D Lines against Ole Miss and Oregon. I can't remember the name but Tulane had a stud cornerback if I remember correctly.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Chris Jones, USM LB, committed to OM along with Jaheim Oatis.


We never had much contact with either. Jones wanted too much money and Oatis is damaged goods at this point. He just can't stay healthy.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I fully expect that our next commitment will be Mario Nash.


I also get the feeling that Jameer Grimsley, Florida DB, and Daniel Harris, UGA DB, are both really close to pulling the trigger as well. We're going to take a bunch of DBs this cycle. I expect us to take AT MINIMUM 5. We have to completely retool that room.

[dawggrad08]

Where are we with the trench guys though? OL/DL are my biggest concern. Guys like Herring, Jalen Thompson, Seagren, etc I understand we need more athletes in the secondary, but a great pass rush can make up for some of that.

[HancockCountyDog]

Chris Jones, USM LB, committed to OM along with Jaheim Oatis.


We never had much contact with either. Jones wanted too much money and Oatis is damaged goods at this point. He just can't stay healthy.

Glad we passed on Oatis. Remember all those fans that wanted us to pay him a million dollars last year and then he goes to Colorado and doesn't do much and can't keep the weight off.

I liked Jones, but I do agree with you that we have bigger needs on the OL and DL. If we can get the Tulane DE, it would be a huge get and could transform our DL if Whitson comes back healthy;

[BigDawg81]

Glad we passed on Oatis. Remember all those fans that wanted us to pay him a million dollars last year and then he goes to Colorado and doesn't do much and can't keep the weight off.

I liked Jones, but I do agree with you that we have bigger needs on the OL and DL. If we can get the Tulane DE, it would be a huge get and could transform our DL if Whitson comes back healthy; We would liked to have Jones but if he is actually asking a ton of money, we would pass. We have some good young talent in the Linebacker core.

[HancockCountyDog]

We would liked to have Jones but if he is actually asking a ton of money, we would pass. We have some good young talent in the Linebacker core.

Look, Jones is really good, but we need at a minimum 3 SEC starting caliber OL. Bare minimum. We also need at least two legit SEC DL. Jenkins is a solid depth piece, but he isn't a starter. The Tulane kid is an absolute must have. I think you have to overpay for him. I know others have disagreed, but that is where you empty the clip, the same way we did with Kelley Jones. I don't even know if he is in fact visiting, but if he is, he can't leave campus.

[Todd4State]

Chris Jones, USM LB, committed to OM along with Jaheim Oatis.


We never had much contact with either. Jones wanted too much money and Oatis is damaged goods at this point. He just can't stay healthy.

Oatis will suddenly become Warren Sapp 2.0 now.**

[StarkVegasSteve]

Look, Jones is really good, but we need at a minimum 3 SEC starting caliber OL. Bare minimum. We also need at least two legit SEC DL. Jenkins is a solid depth piece, but he isn't a starter. The Tulane kid is an absolute must have. I think you have to overpay for him. I know others have disagreed, but that is where you empty the clip, the same way we did with Kelley Jones. I don't even know if he is in fact visiting, but if he is, he can't leave campus.

I agree on Dyson. That's a day 1 starter for you at the EDGE.

[CaptainObvious]

From the looks of it, several teams already have 10-15 inbound transfers and a couple already have nearly 20.

We have 3 committed from the visits so far. Not really comparing auburn because 9 of their 10 commitments followed Golesh from USF. But where are the Olinemen? Should State try to convince Keenum, Lewis and Work to stay since they can?t find anyone any better? I realize it is early. But what linemen have visited or scheduled to visit in the window?

[StarkVegasSteve]

From the looks of it, several teams already have 10-15 inbound transfers and a couple already have nearly 20.

We have 3 committed from the visits so far. Not really comparing auburn because 9 of their 10 commitments followed Golesh from USF. But where are the Olinemen? Should State try to convince Keenum, Lewis and Work to stay since they can?t find anyone any better? I realize it is early. But what linemen have visited or scheduled to visit in the window?

Being that Work is going to Delta St and I imagine Keenum ends up at the G5 level I'm going to say no.

Also, we've already had a few lineman visit and have more set up in the coming days. We're also waiting on big piece to get done with his season.

[BigDawg81]

Being that Work is going to Delta St and I imagine Keenum ends up at the G5 level I'm going to say no.

Also, we've already had a few lineman visit and have more set up in the coming days. We're also waiting on big piece to get done with his season.

Done with his season? Well, I’ve heard that before with the coordinators and position coaches? Just messing with you.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Done with his season? Well, I’ve heard that before with the coordinators and position coaches? Just messing with you.

It's Markel Bell at Miami. I don't know why I was so cryptic about it. He was close to entering the portal last year and we believe he'll enter this time. Going to be a little tricky with timing though. If they win Thursday night, and please for the love of God win Miami, they would play in the national championship on Jan 19. The last day to register for classes would be Jan 22. So it'd be tight but we could get it done. I know there's been heavy tampering going on with him.

[StarkVegasSteve]

This one gives me great joy to report, Steve Wiltfong is predicting what I was hearing late last night, Quentin Taylor(Iowa St CB) is trending towards Mississippi State.

Just a massive pickup for Corey Bell if we bring it across the goal line.

[msstate7]

This one gives me great joy to report, Steve Wiltfong is predicting what I was hearing late last night, Quentin Taylor(Iowa St CB) is trending towards Mississippi State.

Just a massive pickup for Corey Bell if we bring it across the goal line.

Is whitson gonna be back? 2 great CBs would allow us to bring big time pressure

[StarkVegasSteve]

Kaylib Singleton, Syracuse CB, has committed accd to Paul Jones.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Is whitson gonna be back? 2 great CBs would allow us to bring big time pressure

Will Whitson will be back.

[msstate7]

Will Whitson will be back.

Nice, now we just gotta find a way to get teams to 3rd down. If we can get arnett a difference maker in the front 7 to pair with whitson, this defense could be much improved

[StarkVegasSteve]

Nice, now we just gotta find a way to get teams to 3rd down. If we can get arnett a difference maker in the front 7 to pair with whitson, this defense could be much improved

We need to close on Dyson and then find another EDGE. Caleb Herring would be incredible but I'm not wholly confident in that happening.

[HancockCountyDog]

It's Markel Bell at Miami. I don't know why I was so cryptic about it. He was close to entering the portal last year and we believe he'll enter this time. Going to be a little tricky with timing though. If they win Thursday night, and please for the love of God win Miami, they would play in the national championship on Jan 19. The last day to register for classes would be Jan 22. So it'd be tight but we could get it done. I know there's been heavy tampering going on with him.

That would be massive - He is their starting LT. I know he is getting NFL looks.

[BigDawg81]

The commits we currently have are underwhelming. All but one is like “ Let’s hope for the best”. I’m not sure why I would thought any different.

[BankerDog]

The commits we currently have are underwhelming. All but one is like ? Let?s hope for the best?. I?m not sure why I would thought any different.

You can increase your giving by making checks payable to the Excellence Fund or set up an auto debit every month.

[BigDawg81]

You can increase your giving by making checks payable to the Excellence Fund or set up an auto debit every month. oh, I could. I also heard that money wasn’t an issue especially on the interior lines this time around. So, are we still broke or our coaches can’t recruit? I’m confused here.

[StarkVegasSteve]

oh, I could. I also heard that money wasn’t an issue especially on the interior lines this time around. So, are we still broke or our coaches can’t recruit? I’m confused here.

We didn't stop taking donations if that's what you're asking. We take those 24/7 365.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Appears that Mario Nash has committed as well.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

oh, I could. I also heard that money wasn?t an issue especially on the interior lines this time around. So, are we still broke or our coaches can?t recruit? I?m confused here.

Give to NIL or go follow softball.

[Coursesuper]

Give to NIL or go follow softball.

Millsaps is always an option.

[Turfdawg67]

I'm concerned that those type questions aren't allowed right now.

I'm all for going after P4 guys. I really liked us going after Breaux at LSU. This one, not so much, but I don't want to get hammered for being too negative.

Someone recently gave me negative reputation and commented that I was too negative. Lol... let me make a list of the negative nellys on this site.

[Maroon Glasses]

Appears that Mario Nash has committed as well.

How do you feel about Nash? I know the talent is there and we recruited him heavy out of high school. Day 1 starter? He said Loadholt told him he would be playing center or guard.

Just read where the corner from Iowa (Taylor) was 8th on the team in tackles while on starting half of the games. That's a pretty good sign! We definitely lacked in the tackling department.

[chef dixon]

Not to shit too hard on our commits, but 247 has the Iowa state CB as the 6th rated DB.... from Iowa state in the transfer portal

[Cowbell]

Not to shit too hard on our commits, but 247 has the Iowa state CB as the 6th rated DB.... from Iowa state in the transfer portal

6th overall CB... top 100 portal player with three years of eligibility. One of the top corners in the big 12. Massive pickup.

[Turfdawg67]

6th overall CB... top 100 portal player with three years of eligibility. One of the top corners in the big 12. Massive pickup.

Yeah... not getting the sh*t part??

[Brobi-wan]

Not to shit too hard on our commits, but 247 has the Iowa state CB as the 6th rated DB.... from Iowa state in the transfer portal

So there are only 5 better than him. What?s your point?

[StarkVegasSteve]

How do you feel about Nash? I know the talent is there and we recruited him heavy out of high school. Day 1 starter? He said Loadholt told him he would be playing center or guard.

Just read where the corner from Iowa (Taylor) was 8th on the team in tackles while on starting half of the games. That's a pretty good sign! We definitely lacked in the tackling department.

I think if he is the lynchpin of our portal class on the OL we are in trouble. I do not believe he is though.

On Taylor, that is your CB2 and my god have we upgraded there. Talked to an Iowa St buddy today and they were really high on him. Said Campbell wanted him to come to Penn St with him.

[Irondawg]

We've done well in the secondary so far and we're not done there. Just have to win a few of these battles for DL and OL or it won't matter

[Tater]

Someone recently gave me negative reputation and commented that I was too negative. Lol... let me make a list of the negative nellys on this site.

That was probably BlackSailsDouche

[Tater]

So far:

Nash - ideally interior OL battling for starting position, but would rather him grow
Singleton - DB depth, few years of eligibility
Taylor - CB2
Swann - QB2 (note no word on Kamario's MRI leaked)
Jenkins - DL; Older guy who will be in rotation. Gotta hope age helps him
Johnson - WR2/3 depending on if we get BT back.

Needs:
QB - Kamario confirmed healthy in spring
HB - Fluff healthy in spring; another warm "prove it" body
WR - BT back, Ant confirmed staying, one more big body WR, Cunningham is a nice to have
TE - Prove it guy to compete with Ball / West
OL - as many as possible to compete; I'd want 5 guys transferring in at least personally, understand that gotta have bites even though we're dangling good bait.
Interior DL - in Arnett's system I don't mind going the Jenkins route. One or two more 22yr+ guys for rotation is nice.
Edge - Would love a splash piece here, most important place left to shore up on defense
LB - Arnett made lemonade out of lemons here; shouldn't splurge but I trust whoever we get here
CB - looking for young depth
S - grouping these 3 slots together; I want us to grab at least one starting player out of the portal and then a bunch of depth.

Sounds like our plan and wants from the coaching side align mostly with this. Just need the bites especially on OL.

[Todd4State]

So far:

Nash - ideally interior OL battling for starting position, but would rather him grow
Singleton - DB depth, few years of eligibility
Taylor - CB2
Swann - QB2 (note no word on Kamario's MRI leaked)
Jenkins - DL; Older guy who will be in rotation. Gotta hope age helps him
Johnson - WR2/3 depending on if we get BT back.

Needs:
QB - Kamario confirmed healthy in spring
HB - Fluff healthy in spring; another warm "prove it" body
WR - BT back, Ant confirmed staying, one more big body WR, Cunningham is a nice to have
TE - Prove it guy to compete with Ball / West
OL - as many as possible to compete; I'd want 5 guys transferring in at least personally, understand that gotta have bites even though we're dangling good bait.
Interior DL - in Arnett's system I don't mind going the Jenkins route. One or two more 22yr+ guys for rotation is nice.
Edge - Would love a splash piece here, most important place left to shore up on defense
LB - Arnett made lemonade out of lemons here; shouldn't splurge but I trust whoever we get here
CB - looking for young depth
S - grouping these 3 slots together; I want us to grab at least one starting player out of the portal and then a bunch of depth.

Sounds like our plan and wants from the coaching side align mostly with this. Just need the bites especially on OL.

Having seen footage of KT walking around and rumors of him doing things like bowling I'd say that the odds of the MRI results being Ok are really high.

RB- I don't know, I think there is a good chance that at least one of Hill and Crosby emerges this season in a reserve role. I bet we could find a decent RB 2/3 in G5, FCS or D2 even. Just isn't a huge need.

WR- I wouldn't be completely surprised if we add more WR's than we anticipate. I would definitely be very interested in Gipson from Oklahoma who just entered the portal. I could see SanFrisco and Ayden really turning the corner next year. I thought they both flashed in the bowl like I hoped they would have during the season.

TE- We need a couple to go with what we have.

OL- Beaten to death ad nauseum. We were horrible last year. But we also scored enough points with the five matadors to compete in the league. If we improve that unit to below average even our offense could make a jump. Hopefully we improve enough here to allow us to make a jump from 30 PPG to 35 PPG although I will admit that is a pretty big jump.

DL- We need some guys that can win the LOS. I'm glad Trevion and Dinkins and Whitson are coming back. Glad we got Jenkins. We need some more and we need the guys I mentioned in the other sentence to get stronger and better and healthy. I really like the DT from Arkansas State that is visiting.

LB- One of the strongest units on the team and maybe the best on the defense.

EDGE- This actually is probably our biggest need since we couldn't generate any pressure last year. We really need to overpay at this position to fix our issues. I like Nickerson's upside but he needs to add a good 50 pounds of muscle. Praying for the EDGE from Tulane and Herring. Probably end up with the EDGE from Michigan State.

CB- Kelley Jones and the new CB's look like an improved group. We'll need it with our blitzing likely to increase. Say what you want about Corey Bell but he did some work in the portal this offseason.

K/P- Getting Ferrie and Pulliam back are huge.

KR- Need some guys that can do more than fair catch. Honestly wouldn't mind taking the small guy from Sacramento State just to return kicks. I think he runs like a 4.2 but is only 145?

S/DOG- We get Isaac back and I really think that Womack will contribute next year- at least as much as Lockhart did this year in terms of playing time. Womack is a special player that could contribute right away. I'm guessing we get Hartzog from Nebraska and hopefully some others. We've been very aggressive with this position group.

[Tater]

I penciled in Isaac and Womack as starting safeties. I just don't think we get Womack without assuring the playing time and I don't hate it.

But basically we're an elite edge + one more starting DB away from having a paper contender on defense. Two big ifs but the mountain seems climbable.

Then it comes down to getting the OL we need.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I penciled in Isaac and Womack as starting safeties. I just don't think we get Womack without assuring the playing time and I don't hate it.

But basically we're an elite edge + one more starting DB away from having a paper contender on defense. Two big ifs but the mountain seems climbable.

Then it comes down to getting the OL we need.

We need one more EDGE and probably 2 safeties on D. On offense we need 3 more OLs, another RB would not hurt(not sold on Gayten), 2 TEs, and a big receiver to compete with Ayden and Sanfrisco outside.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Montrell Chapman becomes the 34th player to transfer out since the portal opened.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I feel pretty confident that, unless we get an unexpected committment, Jamroc Grimsley will be the next portal commit. DB from Florida.

[msstate7]

Not state related, but I'm worried if I'm a Penn state fan. Campbell has taken 19 Iowa state players off an 8-4 team with him. Maybe it's the best 19 players on the team, but man.... his 8-4 big12 team would be a 6-6 big10 team

[confucius say]

Will the mizzou WR play outside unless Evans leaves?

[confucius say]

Not state related, but I'm worried if I'm a Penn state fan. Campbell has taken 19 Iowa state players off an 8-4 team with him. Maybe it's the best 19 players on the team, but man.... his 8-4 big12 team would be a 6-6 big10 team

They have the easiest schedule in the league next year. So that will help.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Not state related, but I'm worried if I'm a Penn state fan. Campbell has taken 19 Iowa state players off an 8-4 team with him. Maybe it's the best 19 players on the team, but man.... his 8-4 big12 team would be a 6-6 big10 team

He took some really good players. However, he's going to have to work to get them on par with Indiana(still feels weird typing that), Ohio St, and Oregon.

That's the one issue I had with them hiring Campbell. Everyone always said he didn't have the resources to win big at Iowa St, but it was never the games that he wasn't supposed to win that would cost him a shot at a conference title and sometimes a playoff shot.

2021- He loses at WVU, who finished 6-7, and at Texas Tech, who finished 7-6 and had already fired their coach.

2023- Loses at Ohio

2024-Loses at home to Texas Tech and loses to a bad Kansas team in Arrowhead.

2025- At Colorado and a home loss to ASU


Like he definitely wins a lot of games he shouldn't and made Iowa St a good program. But man he has some head scratching losses.

[ZedFedder]

Indiana is spending big money now. Wild.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Jamroc Grimsley has committed. I imagine we will be processing out one of the corners currently on the roster so I feel like we'll see at transfer out of that room in the next day or so.

[HancockCountyDog]

Jamroc Grimsley has committed. I imagine we will be processing out one of the corners currently on the roster so I feel like we'll see at transfer out of that room in the next day or so.

I liked the Stewart kid and the Cuse corner, this one better be cheap. He has 1 tackle in two seasons at Florida.

I'm waiting on some news on the OL/DL.

[BolognaSandwich]

Indiana is spending big money now. Wild.

Marc Cuban money

[Chuck3124]

With the Michigan State OT landing at Auburn this has to help us with landing Seagren correct?

[CaptainObvious]

I liked the Stewart kid and the Cuse corner, this one better be cheap. He has 1 tackle in two seasons at Florida.

I'm waiting on some news on the OL/DL.

Maybe a defense scheme change is just what this guy needs.

[chef dixon]

So there are only 5 better than him. What?s your point?

They have 5 other DBs transferring out of Iowa State ranked higher than him on 247.

He seems like a good player. I just thought that was funny.

[HancockCountyDog]

Jamonta Waller just committed to Arkansas. Man, I would love to know how much he got from them. Its absolutely fools gold. I don't think he has the measurables to compete at this level.

Really glad we passed again.

[Homedawg]

Jamonta Waller just committed to Arkansas. Man, I would love to know how much he got from them. Its absolutely fools gold. I don't think he has the measurables to compete at this level.

Really glad we passed again.
Amen

[confucius say]

They have 5 other DBs transferring out of Iowa State ranked higher than him on 247.

He seems like a good player. I just thought that was funny.

He's the 6th rated highest DB on Iowa state team and is still a top 100 player nationally?

[Goldendawg]

Montrell Chapman becomes the 34th player to transfer out since the portal opened.

As you and I have discussed here, the landing spots or no landing spots for these 34 players show our terrible failure in evaluation, development, a lack of recruiting budget, NIL funds, or a combination of all these issues. We must step up and do better ASAP, especially in the OL and DL this portal class.

[confucius say]

Are we keeping Owens and Mayberry and James on the OL or processing them?

[Jarius]

As you and I have discussed here, the landing spots or no landing spots for these 34 players show our terrible failure in evaluation, development, a lack of recruiting budget, NIL funds, or a combination of all these issues. We must step up and do better ASAP, especially in the OL and DL this portal class.

Half of those guys were signed just to have enough depth to practice last year. It was a necessity. They also missed on evals as well, but it's not as bad as it seems on that front.

[Brobi-wan]

They have 5 other DBs transferring out of Iowa State ranked higher than him on 247.

He seems like a good player. I just thought that was funny.

I misread your post. My bad homie lol

[HancockCountyDog]

Half of those guys were signed just to have enough depth to practice last year. It was a necessity. They also missed on evals as well, but it's not as bad as it seems on that front.

We haven't lost anyone that moves the needle. We need to sign more kids like Johnson, Stewart, and hopefully Dyson. Those are guys that move the freaking needle for next year. Too many of our guys so far are just replacing one guy that didn't perform with another kid that didn't perform. Now, I'm ready for that Dyson graphic, because that kid is damn good an will instantly help.

[Maroon Glasses]

Luke Work commits to Missouri.. wasn't expecting him to get an SEC shot.

[CaptainObvious]

Luke Work commits to Missouri.. wasn't expecting him to get an SEC shot.

Fact is we don?t know how much SEC talent we had because coaching sucked. That Oline looked like it had 5 different blocking assignments for every play more often to being on the same page.

[CadaverDawg]

We just landed the Rice Safety. Isn't he a good pickup?

Marcus Williams

Defense is getting it done in the portal

[Todd4State]

We just landed the Rice Safety. Isn't he a good pickup?

Marcus Williams

Defense is getting it done in the portal

Yes! He had a strong PFF grade against the run.

[Todd4State]

We have a lot of visits tomorrow and through the weekend. I would expect MSU to have a big weekend coming up.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We have a lot of visits tomorrow and through the weekend. I would expect MSU to have a big weekend coming up.

We need some OLs to start popping.

[Maroon Glasses]

Fact is we don?t know how much SEC talent we had because coaching sucked. That Oline looked like it had 5 different blocking assignments for every play more often to being on the same page.

If Work starts at Missouri and has a good year then that will answer questions about Loadholt. I wasn't big in the hire to begin with.

I'm not trying to get the thread off subject here. Just wasn't expecting any of our guys on the O Line to commit to and SEC schools. Especially one of the better programs.

[CaptainObvious]

Why is Bingley-Jones in the portal? He played a good bit in 2025. Not getting that one.

[ZedFedder]

Why is Bingley-Jones in the portal? He played a good bit in 2025. Not getting that one.

He may get recruited over

[maroonmania]

Luke Work commits to Missouri.. wasn't expecting him to get an SEC shot.

Did we not want to keep Work? Thought he grew up a Bulldog fan and was one of our better OL.

[Brobi-wan]

Did we not want to keep Work? Thought he grew up a Bulldog fan and was one of our better OL.

He was pretty bad this year. I thought he was actually better our 2-10 year

[Cowbell]

He was pretty bad this year. I thought he was actually better our 2-10 year

Yes. Our oline coach needs upgrading

[Thick]

Any word on Dyson from Tulane? BlackSails said it looked good for us today, but have not seen anything official.

[confucius say]

Fact is we don?t know how much SEC talent we had because coaching sucked. That Oline looked like it had 5 different blocking assignments for every play more often to being on the same page.

Loadholt sucks. I think he's the worst coach on the staff.
And no clue why we'd keep Owens and Mayberry and not work

[Maroon Glasses]

Not posting this to be negative. Just for info.

247 has our portal class ranked 27th right now with 8 commits. Ole Piss is ranked 7th with 8 commits.

We have definitely filled some positions of need so far. Still got alot of work to do but I'm happy with most of the players we have got. We also get punished for being MSU with players losing stars when they commit to us.

[Todd4State]

Loadholt sucks. I think he's the worst coach on the staff.
And no clue why we'd keep Owens and Mayberry and not work

I'm giving him a pass on this year because of when he was hired. Our talent wasn't very good IMO. We had too many sophomores playing and guys like Work and Lewis playing out of position. We really only had one quality tackle and that was Reese. Well maybe Steen too but he was hurt. It's hard for a line to gel when there are constant injuries and young guys playing out of position.

My guess is we'll get some offensive linemen over the weekend and by Monday we'll see where we stand. It kind of appears as if we are doing visits in groups based on position somewhat. That might be why we have a ton of DB commits and we do have a lot of OL/DL visiting Thursday through the weekend.

Owen was only a sophomore. Hopefully he will improve or at least provide depth. Him starting certainly isn't a given at this point I would think.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Loadholt sucks. I think he's the worst coach on the staff.
And no clue why we'd keep Owens and Mayberry and not work

Because they have 2 years of film on Work to see that he can't help us. He also wasn't recruited by this staff.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Any word on Dyson from Tulane? BlackSails said it looked good for us today, but have not seen anything official.

He'll get done with his NC State visit today and we'll know more.

[CadaverDawg]

Starting to worry that Dyson isn't going to commit. We need that guy. Any updates?

[HancockCountyDog]

He'll get done with his NC State visit today and we'll know more.

My guess is that he will have more visits, the kid is talented. I would think we can outbid NC State.

[TrapGame]

My guess is that he will have more visits, the kid is talented. I would think we can outbid NC State.

Yep, this dude is a game changer. Him and Whitson on the same DL would be the closest we have been to repeating Sweat/Simmons.

We need to make sure money is not the issue. He is worth a big sack.

[HancockCountyDog]

Guy below posted DJ Chester is visiting, he is damn important. He is the type of player we need to be going after. Sure, he didn't have a great year, but the kid is talented and has proven he can play in this league. Too many of the guys we have coming on campus are guys that have not proven it on the field. Chester is not one of those - he can play at this level. He is an instant starter for us. I like kids like Nash who have potential, but we can't afford to sign kids based on potential.

We have to sign kids that have proven they can play at the SEC level. Yes, it will be hard, but players like Chester give me hope that we can get more. The list of players posted in another thread was somewhat depressing except for Chester and Kelby Collins, but at this point we need bodies so I will take it.

[maroonmania]

Because they have 2 years of film on Work to see that he can't help us. He also wasn't recruited by this staff.

So he cant play here but Missouri wants him? That doesn't make sense to me.🤔

[Pancho]

they are hoping he computes to a solid backup

[confucius say]

Because they have 2 years of film on Work to see that he can't help us. He also wasn't recruited by this staff.

Ok but Mizzou signed him. A better program than us.

I really don't care about work. If we can get better guys, please do. But Owens is G5 at best. Give me work over him all day. Just watch the Mayo bowl film. And Mayberry couldn't get on the field with our horrible OL.
Loadholt sucks. Go get a proven OL coach.

[CaptainObvious]

they are hoping he computes to a solid backup

Wait. You talk to the Missouri Coaches? How else would you know they are ?hoping he computes to solid backup? And he was a backup here. Why leave if you can accept being a backup?

[Todd4State]

Ok but Mizzou signed him. A better program than us.

I really don't care about work. If we can get better guys, please do. But Owens is G5 at best. Give me work over him all day. Just watch the Mayo bowl film. And Mayberry couldn't get on the field with our horrible OL.
Loadholt sucks. Go get a proven OL coach.

Work couldn't beat Owens out. Work was not good this year.

[Brobi-wan]

Can we please not turn this into a firing thread?

[Pancho]

Wait. You talk to the Missouri Coaches? How else would you know they are ?hoping he computes to solid backup? And he was a backup here. Why leave if you can accept being a backup?

Work wants to play on a good team. end of story and a great kid

[Goldendawg]

Ok but Mizzou signed him. A better program than us.

I really don't care about work. If we can get better guys, please do. But Owens is G5 at best. Give me work over him all day. Just watch the Mayo bowl film. And Mayberry couldn't get on the field with our horrible OL.
Loadholt sucks. Go get a proven OL coach.

Look at the Colorado OL under Loadholt. Even with Sanders, who has now started a couple of games in the NFL (although for the hapless Browns), and held the ball too long, ala Shapen, our OL this year got worse as the year progressed. We hired Kennedy after Arkansas fired him, and now Loadholt, who is probably not missed. by Primetime. We hire too many castoffs as coaches after failures at other programs. JMO.

[Goldendawg]

Work couldn't beat Owens out. Work was not good this year.

Who on our OL was good this year?

[Todd4State]

Who on our OL was good this year?

Reese was good when he was healthy.

[Thick]

Bring back Hevesy!

[confucius say]

Work couldn't beat Owens out. Work was not good this year.

Yet when he played instead of Owens we moved the ball and scored on 3 straight possessions, inside zone popped for then only time all night, and he graded out higher.
I'm not saying either were great. Even good. But work was better vs Wake.

[confucius say]

Who on our OL was good this year?

Reese was solid. James had moments. Jackson was serviceable.
Nobody was what I would call good.

[CaptainObvious]

So Sigler comes in for a visit this afternoon and immediately commits to Auburn!

[BigDawg81]

So both of our OL transfer commits has zero snaps between both of them?

[Maroon Glasses]

So both of our OL transfer commits has zero snaps between both of them?

I'm pretty sure the FSU kid has 0 snaps. Not sure about the other one you're referring to. This is extremely concerning.

When I see these type of situations I see a coach telling them to find another home because they won't be playing there. I know that's not always the situation, but that's what I see. Due to the fact of how we have not done very well in the portal recently with guys in the trenches. I hope I'm wrong.

[Thick]

I'm pretty sure the FSU kid has 0 snaps. Not sure about the other one you're referring to. This is extremely concerning.

When I see these type of situations I see a coach telling them to find another home because they won't be playing there. I know that's not always the situation, but that's what I see. Due to the fact of how we have not done very well in the portal recently with guys in the trenches. I hope I'm wrong.

So do you think that we out recruited FSU in any position the last 2-4 years? Yet, people are going to question losing Work & company to other teams as backups? Who?s to say that these guys are not better the what we had?? Some of you guys need to just shut up and let it play out before judging based on some bs numbers. I would rather have P4 players than what we have had the past few years. It?s definitely an improvement from what we?ve been signing!

[Brobi-wan]

So do you think that we out recruited FSU in any position the last 2-4 years? Yet, people are going to question losing Work & company to other teams as backups? Who?s to say that these guys are not better the what we had?? Some of you guys need to just shut up and let it play out before judging based on some bs numbers. I would rather have P4 players than what we have had the past few years. It?s definitely an improvement from what we?ve been signing!

I see the logic of both sides. I do agree with you that all we can do is let it play out though

[Maroon Glasses]

So do you think that we out recruited FSU in any position the last 2-4 years? Yet, people are going to question losing Work & company to other teams as backups? Who?s to say that these guys are not better the what we had?? Some of you guys need to just shut up and let it play out before judging based on some bs numbers. I would rather have P4 players than what we have had the past few years. It?s definitely an improvement from what we?ve been signing!

I'm not saying they are better or worse. A couple we have recruited have 0 snaps so there are no numbers to base it off of. I agree that we need P4 players. But we need experienced P4 players. Unless you know for a fact the guy can play at this level. I get recruiting based off talent, but we lost a bunch of games this year due to our trenches being weak. Therefore I feel it's a necessity that you bring in guys you know can play; not hope.

I'm not bashing our recruiting. You won't see me bashing coaches or players on this board. I may ask questions and raise concerns, but bashing is not my thing. I want more than anybody for our coaches and players to be successful. I don't think its unreasonable to question recruiting a guy with 0 playing time in our biggest position of need with our history in the portal so far.

[Thick]

I see the logic of both sides. I do agree with you that all we can do is let it play out though

I don?t see any logic! What I see are some people that think that we can attract ?P4 starters to a program that happens to be in the SEC, but haven?t accomplished shit in that period.? We have to prove ourselves as legitimate competitors in this league, and it begins with better talent. If we are signing P4 players compared to what we have signed in the past, that means we have opened eyes enough to gain their interest. That?s a positive for us compared to what we?ve done lately.

[Maroon Glasses]

I see the logic of both sides. I do agree with you that all we can do is let it play out though

100%. That's the only thing you can do.

[Todd4State]

Bring back Hevesy!

I hear it's down to us and Home Depot**

[Thick]

By the way. Work might be transferring to Delta State.

[Thick]

working

[Thick]

https://x.com/DoyleLeather2/status/2008324471292035364?s=20

[Maroon Glasses]

By the way. Work might be transferring to Delta State.

Work committed to Missouri yesterday I believe.

[HancockCountyDog]

100%. That's the only thing you can do.

I mean, might as well shut down the site.

I think it is fair to be worried that so far we have two OL commits, and neither have played a snap since high school. That is fair.

The bears are landing top 5 OL in the portal, and we are signing guys with zero experience. At some point we have to sign some actual dudes who have proved they are dogs on the P4 level.

[Maroon Glasses]

I mean, might as well shut down the site.

I think it is fair to be worried that so far we have two OL commits, and neither have played a snap since high school. That is fair.

The bears are landing top 5 OL in the portal, and we are signing guys with zero experience. At some point we have to sign some actual dudes who have proved they are dogs on the P4 level.

No doubt. There is no way around it. Yoi can't just keep shooting from the hip and hoping for the best. That's what I am seeing right now.

Anyone with size and speed can look good at a camp or whatever. But until you put the pads on and line up across from another grown man wanting to run through you for 4 quarters then coaches truly can't evaluate you. Experience is #1. Preferably at a P4 level.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I mean, might as well shut down the site.

I think it is fair to be worried that so far we have two OL commits, and neither have played a snap since high school. That is fair.

The bears are landing top 5 OL in the portal, and we are signing guys with zero experience. At some point we have to sign some actual dudes who have proved they are dogs on the P4 level.

That is coming. Everyone is going to have to practice a tad bit of patience with this stuff. It's infuriating right now that we're not on more OL, I don't think anyone would deny that. But we're starting to bring in more and more and I think this weekend will be a big weekend for us on that front.

[msugolf]

We have the worst OLine coach in the SEC. And Lebby has not earned the right for folks to be patient. He better get his ass in gear and show some urgency. He has too much buddy, buddy in him with his coaches. The time to win is now. And if not GTFO

[Todd4State]

We have the worst OLine coach in the SEC. And Lebby has not earned the right for folks to be patient. He better get his ass in gear and show some urgency. He has too much buddy, buddy in him with his coaches. The time to win is now. And if not GTFO

You think he doesn't know we need better offensive linemen?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Amaree Williams has committed. EDGE from Florida St. Also can play some TE.

[Thick]

Nice!

[confucius say]

We have the worst OLine coach in the SEC. And Lebby has not earned the right for folks to be patient. He better get his ass in gear and show some urgency. He has too much buddy, buddy in him with his coaches. The time to win is now. And if not GTFO

Yep. I like lebby. My worry is that loadholt is going to cost him his job. Not getting an experienced, proven OL coach was a mistake.

[confucius say]

By the way. Work might be transferring to Delta State.

Work committed to Mizzou.
Jimothy Lewis is coming off an official to Bama.

[Chuck3124]

Any news on Herring or Dyson? How do we feel about the Amaree Williams pickup?

[Bothrops]

So far this portal haul is reminiscent of last year. Hope we are luckier with this bunch of half experienced guys.

[Todd4State]

Yep. I like lebby. My worry is that loadholt is going to cost him his job. Not getting an experienced, proven OL coach was a mistake.

Loadholt was an OL coach at Colorado and Oklahoma before MSU. If it came down to it Lebby will fire him. Just like Hutzler who was his friend.

We're not dealing with Dan Mullen here. Although bridges have been burned between him and Hevesy and Sallach that I know of.

[HancockCountyDog]

Any news on Herring or Dyson? How do we feel about the Amaree Williams pickup?

Super athletic kid. Definitely high upside. I think he stays on defense, but he has played some TE.

[confucius say]

Loadholt was an OL coach at Colorado and Oklahoma before MSU. If it came down to it Lebby will fire him. Just like Hutzler who was his friend.

We're not dealing with Dan Mullen here. Although bridges have been burned between him and Hevesy and Sallach that I know of.

He was never the OL coach at OK.
He was at Colorado for one year and they sucked too just like we did this year.

[Goldendawg]

Loadholt was an OL coach at Colorado and Oklahoma before MSU. If it came down to it Lebby will fire him. Just like Hutzler who was his friend.

We're not dealing with Dan Mullen here. Although bridges have been burned between him and Hevesy and Sallach that I know of.

How successful was his tenure at either place?

[DownwardDawg]

Loadholt was an OL coach at Colorado and Oklahoma before MSU. If it came down to it Lebby will fire him. Just like Hutzler who was his friend.

We're not dealing with Dan Mullen here. Although bridges have been burned between him and Hevesy and Sallach that I know of.

It's gonna be too late. This was the year to fire him. A blind man can see that Loadholt sucks. Lebby will be fired next year if the o line causes us to suck again, which at this point is extremely likely.

[Brobi-wan]

It's gonna be too late. This was the year to fire him. A blind man can see that Loadholt sucks. Lebby will be fired next year if the o line causes us to suck again, which at this point is extremely likely.

To be completely honest with you, I’m not sure if you’re right. If we go 6-6 Lebby gets to keep his job. I’m not sure that I want him to keep it at 6-6, but we will. I would like to be 7-5. The O line was bad, but I think the D line was worse. We scored enough to win 2 more games this year.

[ZedFedder]

OL LJ Prudhomme from Arkansas committed. Not sure how good he is or not.

[DEDawg]

My biggest concern with OL is obviously our position coach and players but another angle that worries me is Lebby played OL in college and I hope he doesn?t think that he?d be able to coach that group up while also being the HC. I think he can for sure provide support but he needs to be focused on being the HC

[DEDawg]

OL LJ Prudhomme from Arkansas committed. Not sure how good he is or not.

High 3 star out of HS. Should compete for starting guard spot and be depth at worse

[HancockCountyDog]

High 3 star out of HS. Should compete for starting guard spot and be depth at worse

We have 3 OL committed so far:

LJ Prudhomme
Ja'Elyne Matthews
Marion Nash JR.

Matthews and Nash didn't see the field and Prudhomme apparently played 4 games on FG unit.

These are facts.

If we are looking to sign these guys so we can start developing guys for the future, I'm here for it. But we need to sign at least 4 dudes for next season, and so far we have not signed a single kid on the OL that we know can start in the SEC. None.

I'm tired of people posting "Just signed another 4 star DL from...." and then check the kids profile and realize he redshirted his freshman year and then barely played is RS freshman year, and so two years into his career and zero production, and yet we are like "4 star - BOOM!!!!"

I'm not sure what we can do as fans, but I'm not going to sit here and eat a shit sandwich and have other posters tell me its a gosh dang ribeye.

[DEDawg]

We have 3 OL committed so far:

LJ Prudhomme
Ja'Elyne Matthews
Marion Nash JR.

Matthews and Nash didn't see the field and Prudhomme apparently played 4 games on FG unit.

These are facts.

If we are looking to sign these guys so we can start developing guys for the future, I'm here for it. But we need to sign at least 4 dudes for next season, and so far we have not signed a single kid on the OL that we know can start in the SEC. None.

I'm tired of people posting "Just signed another 4 star DL from...." and then check the kids profile and realize he redshirted his freshman year and then barely played is RS freshman year, and so two years into his career and zero production, and yet we are like "4 star - BOOM!!!!"

I'm not sure what we can do as fans, but I'm not going to sit here and eat a shit sandwich and have other posters tell me it?s a gosh dang ribeye.

I mean both can be true. Yeah we need starters. But yeah we also would have been thrilled to get Mario out of HS and now we get him with one year in a college program and conditioning

[Goldendawg]

We have 3 OL committed so far:

LJ Prudhomme
Ja'Elyne Matthews
Marion Nash JR.

Matthews and Nash didn't see the field and Prudhomme apparently played 4 games on FG unit.

These are facts.

If we are looking to sign these guys so we can start developing guys for the future, I'm here for it. But we need to sign at least 4 dudes for next season, and so far we have not signed a single kid on the OL that we know can start in the SEC. None.

I'm tired of people posting "Just signed another 4 star DL from...." and then check the kids profile and realize he redshirted his freshman year and then barely played is RS freshman year, and so two years into his career and zero production, and yet we are like "4 star - BOOM!!!!"

I'm not sure what we can do as fans, but I'm not going to sit here and eat a shit sandwich and have other posters tell me its a gosh dang ribeye.

Doesn't say much at all about our evaluation and development of our recent OL signees, who we have told to look elsewhere when we sign these types of players from a program like Arkansas, which was even worse than us. These types of players are like starting over based on their HS potential. I will admit that their HS offer lists were much better than our OL signees of the last couple of years, but that's no big surprise at all. JMO.

[HancockCountyDog]

I mean both can be true. Yeah we need starters. But yeah we also would have been thrilled to get Mario out of HS and now we get him with one year in a college program and conditioning

Sounds good - as long as we are paying him HS OL money where we aren't expecting much next year. As long as we are paying these guys very little I'm here for it.

My concern is that we are paying them transfer portal OL money, where we are expecting them to start next year.

Look, we still have another week of the portal. The goal is 4 OL with starting P4 experience. Obviously a high level G5 player that was All Conference or something, of course that would work as well.

[dawggrad08]

Technically dont we have a bit more than that? I know players must be in within the next week, but they dont have to decide. or are you saying most will have made decisions by then?

ETA: im hoping for more production > potential in the trenches too...just clarifying

[Chuck3124]

What?s up with Mario Nash? He committed Tuesday and now he?s visiting LSU?

[CaptainObvious]

What?s up with Mario Nash? He committed Tuesday and now he?s visiting LSU?

A man?s got to do what he?s got to do to earn the equivalent of ?lifetime? of income in 3 years of college football.

Meanwhile many hard workers who have earned about $2,000,000 Total over 50 years of working full time are asked to pony up and pay NIL. Cannot blame them for saying NO!

[StarkVegasSteve]

What?s up with Mario Nash? He committed Tuesday and now he?s visiting LSU?

He doesn't want to be here. His parents want him here. It's plainly obvious. He's done this now twice. It's not even driving the price up. He just doesn't want to be here.

[BigDawg81]

He doesn't want to be here. His parents want him here. It's plainly obvious. He's done this now twice. It's not even driving the price up. He just doesn't want to be here.

Let’s be honest. State is his fall back.

[Tripp McNeely]

Then drop him, go get Carde Smith, spend the rest of the OL pool on 3(ish) veterans and go shore up other positions

[StarkVegasSteve]

Then drop him, go get Carde Smith, spend the rest of the OL pool on 3(ish) veterans and go shore up other positions

1000%.

Carde is a guy I've wanted for 2 years. Now if Phat Phil will get off his ass and maybe recruit, we'd probably get him.

[Todd4State]

Sounds good - as long as we are paying him HS OL money where we aren't expecting much next year. As long as we are paying these guys very little I'm here for it.

My concern is that we are paying them transfer portal OL money, where we are expecting them to start next year.

Look, we still have another week of the portal. The goal is 4 OL with starting P4 experience. Obviously a high level G5 player that was All Conference or something, of course that would work as well.

The deadline to enter the portal is the 16th. We have until February 2nd to sign guys.

[BeardoMSU]

https://twitter.com/i/status/2009783996163436595

[KOdawg1]

https://twitter.com/i/status/2009783996163436595

Excuse my stupidity, but how do you embed a tweet on here? I haven't been able to in years.

[KOdawg1]

Young and inexperienced is cool as long as you bring in production and experience to go along with it.

So far we haven't, and we're quickly running out of time to do so.

[BeardoMSU]

Young and inexperienced is cool as long as you bring in production and experience to go along with it.

So far we haven't, and we're quickly running out of time to do so.

Post the link, then replace the "x" with "twitter", then highlight link and click the blue Twitter bird button on the left. And post.

[maroonmania]

100% committed yet 0% signed. :(

[Cowbell]

Somebody explain to me why you would ever pay money to a kid in the portal that didn't touch the field this year. I mean I get it if they are a backup. But if you didn't touch the field? Color me underwhelmed.

[BeardoMSU]

Somebody explain to me why you would ever pay money to a kid in the portal that didn't touch the field this year. I mean I get it if they are a backup. But if you didn't touch the field? Color me underwhelmed.

Are they actually getting any money up front? Bc if so....we're a bunch of cucks....

[Pancho]

Are they actually getting any money up front? Bc if so....we're a bunch of cucks....

happens often but not all the time

[msugolf]

Somebody explain to me why you would ever pay money to a kid in the portal that didn't touch the field this year. I mean I get it if they are a backup. But if you didn't touch the field? Color me underwhelmed.

They actually just talked about this in the IU/OR game regarding Cignetti and transfers. He said he doesnt look at how many stars you were coming out of high school. He wants to see how productive you were and your stats. What a novel concept. Oh well, one more year of this charade on our end.

[confucius say]

Nash signed

[CaptainObvious]

They actually just talked about this in the IU/OR game regarding Cignetti and transfers. He said he doesnt look at how many stars you were coming out of high school. He wants to see how productive you were and your stats. What a novel concept. Oh well, one more year of this charade on our end.

With 2026 schedule, it will be very surprising if Lebby is still the HC after 6 or 7 games..

I guess it?s good State brought Arnept back to step in as interim the second half of next season.

[Thick]

This site needs a new name, bc Eilte it is not! The whiny, bitchy dogs would be much more appropriate and accurate. If you want previous starters or 2nd teamers with stats, then whip out your check books. Does anyone know how much money Indiana is pouring into their NIL? How about TT? Put up or shut up, otherwise just accept the fact that we are what we are in football regarding NIL. Our ****ing HC is also a victim of our NIL!! His replacement will also be a victim of our NIL!! Cry all you want, but basketball and baseball are legit opportunities for us to be competitive in from a conference and national standpoint with baseball having the best outcome.

Let?s all get together and have drinks, so we can put some faces to these names. We can pass the hat around and see how much we can drum up! Who knows, we might be able to buy a holder for our kicker!

[Coursesuper]

This site needs a new name, bc Eilte it is not! The whiny, bitchy dogs would be much more appropriate and accurate. If you want previous starters or 2nd teamers with stats, then whip out your check books. Does anyone know how much money Indiana is pouring into their NIL? How about TT? Put up or shut up, otherwise just accept the fact that we are what we are in football regarding NIL. Our ****ing HC is also a victim of our NIL!! His replacement will also be a victim of our NIL!! Cry all you want, but basketball and baseball are legit opportunities for us to be competitive in from a conference and national standpoint with baseball having the best outcome.

Let?s all get together and have drinks, so we can put some faces to these names. We can pass the hat around and see how much we can drum up! Who knows, we might be able to buy a holder for our kicker!

Bravo!

[HoopsDawg]

This site needs a new name, bc Eilte it is not! The whiny, bitchy dogs would be much more appropriate and accurate. If you want previous starters or 2nd teamers with stats, then whip out your check books. Does anyone know how much money Indiana is pouring into their NIL? How about TT? Put up or shut up, otherwise just accept the fact that we are what we are in football regarding NIL. Our ****ing HC is also a victim of our NIL!! His replacement will also be a victim of our NIL!! Cry all you want, but basketball and baseball are legit opportunities for us to be competitive in from a conference and national standpoint with baseball having the best outcome.

Let?s all get together and have drinks, so we can put some faces to these names. We can pass the hat around and see how much we can drum up! Who knows, we might be able to buy a holder for our kicker!

That bowl game had zero to do with NIL.

[Cowbell]

Are they actually getting any money up front? Bc if so....we're a bunch of cucks....

None of these kids are signing without money

[Cowbell]

This site needs a new name, bc Eilte it is not! The whiny, bitchy dogs would be much more appropriate and accurate. If you want previous starters or 2nd teamers with stats, then whip out your check books. Does anyone know how much money Indiana is pouring into their NIL? How about TT? Put up or shut up, otherwise just accept the fact that we are what we are in football regarding NIL. Our ****ing HC is also a victim of our NIL!! His replacement will also be a victim of our NIL!! Cry all you want, but basketball and baseball are legit opportunities for us to be competitive in from a conference and national standpoint with baseball having the best outcome.

Let?s all get together and have drinks, so we can put some faces to these names. We can pass the hat around and see how much we can drum up! Who knows, we might be able to buy a holder for our kicker!

I love it when people post assumptions like this. There are some decent size donors on this forum. Just keep assuming brother.

[StarkVegasSteve]

100% committed yet 0% signed. :(

He signed the financial aid agreement. There were some uncomfortable calls on that one.

[StarkVegasSteve]

This site needs a new name, bc Eilte it is not! The whiny, bitchy dogs would be much more appropriate and accurate. If you want previous starters or 2nd teamers with stats, then whip out your check books. Does anyone know how much money Indiana is pouring into their NIL? How about TT? Put up or shut up, otherwise just accept the fact that we are what we are in football regarding NIL. Our ****ing HC is also a victim of our NIL!! His replacement will also be a victim of our NIL!! Cry all you want, but basketball and baseball are legit opportunities for us to be competitive in from a conference and national standpoint with baseball having the best outcome.

Let?s all get together and have drinks, so we can put some faces to these names. We can pass the hat around and see how much we can drum up! Who knows, we might be able to buy a holder for our kicker!

I am down to pass the hat and meet up with everyone. I give too much but hell, what’s a little more.

[Brobi-wan]

This site needs a new name, bc Eilte it is not! The whiny, bitchy dogs would be much more appropriate and accurate. If you want previous starters or 2nd teamers with stats, then whip out your check books. Does anyone know how much money Indiana is pouring into their NIL? How about TT? Put up or shut up, otherwise just accept the fact that we are what we are in football regarding NIL. Our ****ing HC is also a victim of our NIL!! His replacement will also be a victim of our NIL!! Cry all you want, but basketball and baseball are legit opportunities for us to be competitive in from a conference and national standpoint with baseball having the best outcome.

Let?s all get together and have drinks, so we can put some faces to these names. We can pass the hat around and see how much we can drum up! Who knows, we might be able to buy a holder for our kicker!

Lol! Count me in

[HancockCountyDog]

That bowl game had zero to do with NIL.

Facts.

[HoopsDawg]

Indiana provides the blueprint. Get older players who have been productive. Lebby says not on my watch. We are going to get unproven, younger guys, who went to good programs and didnt play. Bold strategy cotton.

[Tater]

I am down to pass the hat and meet up with everyone. I give too much but hell, what’s a little more.

How about we get creative and recruit billionaire's children / grandchildren in non-revenue sports and work them into the State family of giving. That'd be a more impactful effect to our NIL.

[CaptainObvious]

How about we get creative and recruit billionaire's children / grandchildren in non-revenue sports and work them into the State family of giving. That'd be a more impactful effect to our NIL.

Haha. Good idea. If we passed the hat among the people on this site, we might end up with $1000. We could hire a practice dummy with that.

[Thick]

I love it when people post assumptions like this. There are some decent size donors on this forum. Just keep assuming brother.

My sister?s father-in- law is one of those donors! Nice try ?brother?.

[BigDawg81]

We got a TE

[Todd4State]

They actually just talked about this in the IU/OR game regarding Cignetti and transfers. He said he doesnt look at how many stars you were coming out of high school. He wants to see how productive you were and your stats. What a novel concept. Oh well, one more year of this charade on our end.

I think everyone does that. The problem is there aren't many players that have a profile where they are older and have a lot of production. The ones that are out there are a ton of people after they.

[Todd4State]

Indiana provides the blueprint. Get older players who have been productive. Lebby says not on my watch. We are going to get unproven, younger guys, who went to good programs and didnt play. Bold strategy cotton.

If we get older players our fans would immediately question why they were in the portal or ask why they didn't start.

If it's a younger player we question why they aren't older.

[HancockCountyDog]

If we get older players our fans would immediately question why they were in the portal or ask why they didn't start.

If it's a younger player we question why they aren't older.

No one is complaining about the Mizzou WR or when we got Whitson last year.

Yes, our smart fans want to see us sign kids that have produced at a p4 level or excelled at a G5 level.

The Rice safety looks good, I hope it translates.

I do not want a dumb fan base that celebrates signing kids that have done nothing at all on a p4 level and then wonder why we are getting skull drug by freaking wake Forest.

Either land some quality players or just start sending the money to Jans and baseball.

[Offshore Dawg]

How about we get creative and recruit billionaire's children / grandchildren in non-revenue sports and work them into the State family of giving. That'd be a more impactful effect to our NIL.

Damn Tater, this may be your best suggestion ever. Makes too much sense.

[BeardoMSU]

https://twitter.com/i/status/2010072520322650618