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Originally Posted by
TNDawg35
I have never seen grown men freak out so bad. We were all saying no one gave a shit about the tourney and some even said let the starters sit and ply younger guys. Then we mail it in and everyone freaks out saying we don’t give a shit and Lemonis is back to sucking!! Good lord people. Chill out! Make up your damn mind!!
The thread title should be changed to our some of our fans are entitled all the time.
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May I ask how today was an example of us playing entitled? I absolutely think there was some of that in the Mizzou series, we were bad defensively and struggled badly with pitch command. I think we just assumed that all we had to do was throw it in the general direction of the plate and Mizzou would get themselves out. But I don't really know how today was an example of any kind of entitlement. We experimented with our starting pitching and it didn't work, they just simply hit him hard. Meanwhile Florida's best starter had a good day himself. Neither of those things had anything to do with us playing entitled or not caring enough.
I think fans have a tendency to assume that a blowout loss means we didn't even try. That's lazy logic sometimes and I don't really think it's the case here, I think we just took one on the chin as everybody does on occasion, even the elite teams.
They took it to us early and we were staring down a 9-1 deficit in game one of a double elimination tournament. Them jumping out to that lead didn't have anything to do with us playing entitled, they just beat around a struggling pitcher. At a certain point there's a little bit of self preservation required. It's why you throw Cerantola and Hunt today and not Harding or Sims.
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Originally Posted by
Captain Falcon
May I ask how today was an example of us playing entitled? I absolutely think there was some of that in the Mizzou series, we were bad defensively and struggled badly with pitch command. I think we just assumed that all we had to do was throw it in the general direction of the plate and Mizzou would get themselves out. But I don't really know how today was an example of any kind of entitlement. We experimented with our starting pitching and it didn't work, they just simply hit him hard. Meanwhile Florida's best starter had a good day himself. Neither of those things had anything to do with us playing entitled or not caring enough.
I think fans have a tendency to assume that a blowout loss means we didn't even try. That's lazy logic sometimes and I don't really think it's the case here, I think we just took one on the chin as everybody does on occasion, even the elite teams.
They took it to us early and we were staring down a 9-1 deficit in game one of a double elimination tournament. Them jumping out to that lead didn't have anything to do with us playing entitled, they just beat around a struggling pitcher. At a certain point there's a little bit of self preservation required. It's why you throw Cerantola and Hunt today and not Harding or Sims.
This is where I am. If you?re going to get your ass kicked, go all in.
My only concern is the selection committee looking for any excuse to knock us out of the top 8. They?ve been known to be unfriendly to the sec at times. Other than that, win the whole thing. We?ve got plenty of tournament titles.
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A younger fan (younger than me) commented today that he's heard the players don't like Lemonis, that he is so hard on them he takes the fun out of the game.
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Originally Posted by
SailingDawg
A younger fan (younger than me) commented today that he's heard the players don't like Lemonis, that he is so hard on them he takes the fun out of the game.
That's retarded.
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Originally Posted by
basedog
Btw Todd, I think it?s just this team and they are what they are. We are young overall, especially pitchers. Hopefully they learn and we get some help going into next year.
Honestly I?m surprised we have won 40 games, we are iffy and up and down at times for sure. Today we were bad in all phases of the game.
I agree. This team is a roller coaster and get focused only when they feel like they have to. I really feel like we only swept Bama because the players probably heard it all week from fans and students about how embarrassing their performance was against Mizzou. THEN, after feeling good about themselves after the Bama sweep, they come out unmotivated again today. This team seems very immature to me. Probably just didn't realize how good we had it when Mangum was the leader of the team. He wouldn't have put up with this nonsense.
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Originally Posted by
SailingDawg
A younger fan (younger than me) commented today that he's heard the players don't like Lemonis, that he is so hard on them he takes the fun out of the game.
Meh. Saban is a blast to play for. ... one day they will be glad he was tough on them. He allows the dugout to cut up. Whatever.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
I agree. This team is a roller coaster and get focused only when they feel like they have to. I really feel like we only swept Bama because the players probably heard it all week from fans and students about how embarrassing their performance was against Mizzou. THEN, after feeling good about themselves after the Bama sweep, they come out unmotivated again today. This team seems very immature to me. Probably just didn't realize how good we had it when Mangum was the leader of the team. He wouldn't have put up with this nonsense.
We got run ruled in Hoover twice when Mangum was on the roster.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
I agree. This team is a roller coaster and get focused only when they feel like they have to. I really feel like we only swept Bama because the players probably heard it all week from fans and students about how embarrassing their performance was against Mizzou. THEN, after feeling good about themselves after the Bama sweep, they come out unmotivated again today. This team seems very immature to me. Probably just didn't realize how good we had it when Mangum was the leader of the team. He wouldn't have put up with this nonsense.
Good take and yes seems like an immature team. Only TA and Rowdy been starters excluding a shorten season last year.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
This thread is full of over the top and crazy. Go to bed the sun will come up. Good LOrd
This.
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Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
So that Tennessee game just potentially became a National Seed playoff. Especially if Notre Dame do well in their conference tournament.
Nope
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Originally Posted by
Captain Falcon
We got run ruled in Hoover twice when Mangum was on the roster.
By a lower seeded team? But this doesn't appear to be something relegated to just the SEC tourney anyway.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
By a lower seeded team? But this doesn't appear to be something relegated to just the SEC tourney anyway.
We. Are. A. National. Seed.
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Nobody gives a shit about conference tournaments in any sport anymore.
The season begins in the regionals.
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We're probably the 6th or 7th best team in the SEC truth be known. Yeah...6th or 7th. We could still end up in Omaha because it's baseball, but won't need many uniforms.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
By a lower seeded team? But this doesn't appear to be something relegated to just the SEC tourney anyway.
Both times by a lower seeded team, including once when we were the 1 seed in the tournament.
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Originally Posted by
Bothrops
We're probably the 6th or 7th best team in the SEC truth be known. Yeah...6th or 7th. We could still end up in Omaha because it's baseball, but won't need many uniforms.
I?ve got to ask. Who are you putting in front of us? Being as non objective as I can, I only come up with 4.
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Originally Posted by
FriarsPoint
I?ve got to ask. Who are you putting in front of us? Being as non objective as I can, I only come up with 4.
This, we've proved over the course of a full sec season we're one of the top 3-4 teams .
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Originally Posted by
Captain Falcon
May I ask how today was an example of us playing entitled? I absolutely think there was some of that in the Mizzou series, we were bad defensively and struggled badly with pitch command. I think we just assumed that all we had to do was throw it in the general direction of the plate and Mizzou would get themselves out. But I don't really know how today was an example of any kind of entitlement. We experimented with our starting pitching and it didn't work, they just simply hit him hard. Meanwhile Florida's best starter had a good day himself. Neither of those things had anything to do with us playing entitled or not caring enough.
I think fans have a tendency to assume that a blowout loss means we didn't even try. That's lazy logic sometimes and I don't really think it's the case here, I think we just took one on the chin as everybody does on occasion, even the elite teams.
They took it to us early and we were staring down a 9-1 deficit in game one of a double elimination tournament. Them jumping out to that lead didn't have anything to do with us playing entitled, they just beat around a struggling pitcher. At a certain point there's a little bit of self preservation required. It's why you throw Cerantola and Hunt today and not Harding or Sims.
It just seemed like they didn't care and just didn't play the game with respect. Just acted like "Oh, well we're a National Seed so we're going to save everyone for the Regionals". We had guys not running out balls a couple of times, we didn't attack the strike zone, Leggett looked bad defensively, and then our team leader just goes with the "that's baseball" line. Which is code for "It's all about luck anyway so who gives a shit so we can feel better about ourselves."
It was bad enough that Lemonis addressed it in the postgame press conference about how "we really want to be here and want to win". And I don't doubt him. And I also wouldn't be surprised if he tore some of our players new assholes either after the game.
And you're right- same as Mizzou. I think some players on our team may have bought into the "well the SEC Tournament doesn't matter" line and "we don't want to burn up our pitching" because that "happened" when we won in 2012. And I don't like the SEC Tournament- but at the same time since they're keeping score we need to at least show up.
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