QB question for insiders

[Walkerhill]

For those who have seen scrimmages and practices, some qb questions:
1) what completion percentage did we see from Key and Nick in scrimmages and practices?
2) what completion percentage did you honestly expect from these first games
3) is a 20 point increase in percentage possible? What is the ceiling as the offense matures?

I do not want to fixate on the passing stats, at least not until the back half of the schedule. Just curious where we are vs. internal expectations right now.

[mstatefan91]

Nick will be closer to 60 by the end of the season. It will get better

[MrKotter]

I wish Moorhead never would have said anything about completion percentages.

[Walkerhill]

I wish Moorhead never would have said anything about completion percentages.

Agreed. Intentional or not, they have created an undue pressure during this offensive transition period.

That being said, doubt 40% would have flown under the radar either way.

[Dawg61]

That being said, doubt 40% would have flown under the radar either way.

It's low hanging fruit. Key is 7th in the country in yards per attempt. He's probably #1 in the country in yards per completion.

[HoopsDawg]

completion percentage can be misleading. some teams throw 20 passes a game 5 yards down the field or less. A great number for Fitz would be 60%. I think 65% was more shoot for the stars and land on the moon.

[Dawg61]

McSorley for Penn State has a 52% completion rate right now and PSU is 74th in the country in offense. We are 14th.

[Walkerhill]

McSorley for Penn State has a 52% completion rate right now and PSU is 74th in the country in offense. We are 14th.

I mean, that seems too flippant. I agree with the idea that it is too early in the season to draw conclusions, especially when our qbs have split the game reps across 2 games. And, yes, the offense has been explosive.

That being said, you cannot stay where you need to be in down and distance against some of the good defenses on the back half of our schedule unless you get that completion percentage up. Those lost plays will just kill you.

So, should we hit the panic button now. No.
But, will this level of efficiency work long term. Also no.

[Todd4State]

I wish Moorhead never would have said anything about completion percentages.

I disagree. I like that there are clear standards because that's what it's going to take for us to reach our ceiling.

It's worth discussing. I don't think it's worth panicking over either. Nick has to get better and he knows it. And he probably will.

[Dawg61]

I disagree. I like that there are clear standards because that's what it's going to take for us to reach our ceiling.

It's worth discussing. I don't think it's worth panicking over either. Nick has to get better and he knows it. And he probably will.

The #1 standard is winning games not having a 65% completion rate. You think JoMo is giving out stickers to Fitz when he losses but still completes 65% of his passes?

[Homedawg]

For those who have seen scrimmages and practices, some qb questions:
1) what completion percentage did we see from Key and Nick in scrimmages and practices?
2) what completion percentage did you honestly expect from these first games
3) is a 20 point increase in percentage possible? What is the ceiling as the offense matures?

I do not want to fixate on the passing stats, at least not until the back half of the schedule. Just curious where we are vs. internal expectations right now.

I was told from multiple people close to the situation, that key was having a hard time w post snap progressions. Said nick was fine. With that said, nobody would predict what his percentage would be, nor would he be a better passer. All said the biggest change in the offense was, who we read, and that we would take shots. Whether we hit them or not would be another question. So that part remains to be seen

[Homedawg]

Nick will be closer to 60 by the end of the season. It will get better

I just don't see it. Unless he dumps every pass. He's just not a great thrower. Some are. Some aren't. If he is 58% and hits a half ass amount of deep throws, which's he's never done, we will be elite. We shall see.

[BB30]

FWIW friend of mine heard our qb coach speak not long ago. He said when nick was going against the #1s in fall camp he was right around 66 to 67%.

Still trying to figure out why we are worried about it. It’s going to be what it’s going to be. As long as the offense is productive and scores points I could care less what the comp % is.

The only thing that worries me a bit is more incompletions could potentially mean more opportunity for turnovers.

I think Fitz will settle in and be closer to 60%. But again, as long as we are moving the ball and scoring then it really doesn’t matter.

[Todd4State]

The #1 standard is winning games not having a 65% completion rate. You think JoMo is giving out stickers to Fitz when he losses but still completes 65% of his passes?

Possibly. Do you think helmet stickers are only given out in wins?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Possibly. Do you think helmet stickers are only given out in wins?

They are only given out in wins

[Todd4State]

FWIW friend of mine heard our qb coach speak not long ago. He said when nick was going against the #1s in fall camp he was right around 66 to 67%.

Still trying to figure out why we are worried about it. It’s going to be what it’s going to be. As long as the offense is productive and scores points I could care less what the comp % is.

The only thing that worries me a bit is more incompletions could potentially mean more opportunity for turnovers.

I think Fitz will settle in and be closer to 60%. But again, as long as we are moving the ball and scoring then it really doesn’t matter.

It's very simple. Nick against K-State looked like he has progressed very little on top of being suspended for game one. That's why people are concerned.

If he looks good against ULL the concern will probably at least start to go away. And like you said it probably will.

[Todd4State]

They are only given out in wins

Well there ya go.

[mstatefan91]

I just don't see it. Unless he dumps every pass. He's just not a great thrower. Some are. Some aren't. If he is 58% and hits a half ass amount of deep throws, which's he's never done, we will be elite. We shall see.

You’ve already seen evidence that he is a better passer than this last Saturday, chicken little. It’s called the 2015-2017 seasons. He isn’t and may not be the greatest passer of all time but he is better than 40% and a blind man can see that given his body of work

[Dawg61]

You’ve already seen evidence that he is a better passer than this last Saturday, chicken little. It’s called the 2015-2017 seasons. He isn’t and may not be the greatest passer of all time but he is better than 40% and a blind man can see that given his body of work

Yea but 65%

[mstatefan91]

Yea but 65%

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Probably not gonna happen but 56-58 is certainly attainable