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07-31-2018, 06:46 PM
#2481

Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
I've disagreed with you a lot in the past, but this is spot on. They would trade Jackson or Mingo for one of our DL commits in a heartbeat.
Now granted, they're going to try to flip one of them anyway
I didn't know you disagreed with me, but that's okay. Russell is the one that could be swayed... "they" say.
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07-31-2018, 06:48 PM
#2482

Originally Posted by
Turfdawg67
I didn't know you disagreed with me, but that's okay. Russell is the one that could be swayed... "they" say.
It was back during baseball season lol.
And yeah, Russell is the one I was thinking too. Maybe Moore
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07-31-2018, 06:50 PM
#2483

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Nah brah, country club gone... we recruiting top 10 now
It sucks being a Braves and State fan. Doesn?t it?
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07-31-2018, 06:51 PM
#2484
Senior Member

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Nah brah, country club gone... we recruiting top 10 now
Good grief man. We get it. You're in the midst of of massive freak out. We got it the first 20 times you posted. Give it a rest.
If we finish ranked 25 or below when the dust settles, I'll join you in disappointment. Until then, just chill man. You're going to give yourself an ulcer.
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07-31-2018, 06:52 PM
#2485

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
It sucks being a Braves and State fan. Doesn?t it?
Haha, nah... I'm actually happy with the state of all my teams (big 3 at state, braves, and saints).
Last edited by msstate7; 07-31-2018 at 06:54 PM.
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07-31-2018, 07:02 PM
#2486

Originally Posted by
msstate7
OM just got a 4-star o lineman from Arkansas
#3 prospect in the State. Sure they sell the NFL at OL due to Tunsil & Little. Morris probably not too happy. Lots of new coaches having trouble with that 2nd year whiz-kid HC Matt Luke and his probation affected recruiting machine.******
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07-31-2018, 07:02 PM
#2487

Originally Posted by
maroonmania
Limited scholarships? They don't have any real limited scholarships. Their probation was and is a joke. All they got was a bowl ban but HS players aren't worried about a bowl ban because that will be over by the time they are playing. NCAA gave them nothing that would really impede their recruiting.
Mania, the restriction of 1 unofficial visit per recruit for the 4 year duration of their probation is worse than the 4 or 5 scholarships per year they should have given them. First of all it is a reminder to potential recruits that Mississippi has a black mark on them. If you can't get them on campus you can't legitimately recruit them. Recruits are going to commit to places they are comfortable with. You cannot get comfortable with 1 visit!
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07-31-2018, 07:05 PM
#2488

Originally Posted by
Shooter McGavin
Good grief man. We get it. You're in the midst of of massive freak out. We got it the first 20 times you posted. Give it a rest.
If we finish ranked 25 or below when the dust settles, I'll join you in disappointment. Until then, just chill man. You're going to give yourself an ulcer.
25th is what we've been doing with a lazy recruiter as HC. This year will be the best season of the last 4, with the best instate class in decades, and a staff that spends more energy recruiting. Not improving the end results when your effort, on field results, and talent pool are all improved is a significant disappointment. We'll have missed our chance to improve from being an 8-4 program, and I'll have big question marks about how well future recruiting will go with 1/3rd the 4* in MS. Anything worse than #20 is a missed opportunity
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07-31-2018, 07:06 PM
#2489

Originally Posted by
Shooter McGavin
You're going to give yourself an ulcer.
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07-31-2018, 07:07 PM
#2490

Originally Posted by
msbulldog
Mania, the restriction of 1 unofficial visit per recruit for the 4 year duration of their probation is worse than the 4 or 5 scholarships per year they should have given them. First of all it is a reminder to potential recruits that Mississippi has a black mark on them. If you can't get them on campus you can't legitimately recruit them. Recruits are going to commit to places they are comfortable with. You cannot get comfortable with 1 visit!
No, I don't agree, that's not worse. It's a hit for them but no way is that worse than actually having to offer 4 or 5 less scholarships per year for a few years. Guess that visit thing will take effect in the future since the sanctions weren't valid during the appeal and I'm glad they are getting something but scholarship reductions would have been worse. If you don't think OM will figure a way to skirt that visit sanction then you don't know OM.
Last edited by maroonmania; 07-31-2018 at 08:42 PM.
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07-31-2018, 07:09 PM
#2491

Originally Posted by
msbulldog
If you can't get them on campus you can't legitimately recruit them. Recruits are going to commit to places they are comfortable with. You cannot get comfortable with 1 visit!
All it takes is one time for the bagmen to "show the love". If that's really what's going on with their top targets, none of that will change. Only people it might affect are the mid 3* that the boosters don't give much $$ too. All the top targets will still have a "good time" in Oxford on that 1 visit
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07-31-2018, 07:16 PM
#2492

Originally Posted by
GreenheadDawg
It amazes me that they continue to skull drag us in recruiting. It?s amazing
Their fans and staff sell Ole Miss with infinitely more belief and passion than us.
MSU fans are the equivalent of a car salesman that really likes their car but will tell you that others are better. Gotta be realistic right?
Until that infections is cured in our fanbase, we'll never recruit at a high level.
This staff is awesome but they can only take a fanbase so far when they don't promote or believe in the place.
The mindset of our fan base sucks and things won't change until that does
You guys expect the staff to do everything while OM fans are selling Oxford, the girls, etc like it's the greatest thing on Earth.
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07-31-2018, 07:21 PM
#2493
Guys, it just hit me. This was/is all part of a master plan by the NCAA. Light, meaningless penalties 1st go around. OM enters false sense of security. Business as usual. Small slip up. NCAA pounces! Death penalty/SMU 2.0!**** Time to go take my meds from last meltdown.******
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07-31-2018, 07:52 PM
#2494
Lol...some of you guys are unreal. Ole miss will always recruit well due to money. Who cares? The players that want to be here will. It doesn't take a top 5 recruiting class to be successful. This 2018 team is considered a national threat and yet we never cracked a top 10 recruiting class.
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07-31-2018, 08:02 PM
#2495

Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
All it takes is one time for the bagmen to "show the love". If that's really what's going on with their top targets, none of that will change. Only people it might affect are the mid 3* that the boosters don't give much $$ too. All the top targets will still have a "good time" in Oxford on that 1 visit
But S'gun, in all of his wisdom, says it's us, the fans!! When Freezus and the Network were clicking' on all cylinders w/ hookers, cars and cash... it was still us then too. Hell, I'm sure that my negative thoughts are THE reason Freddie Milons went to Alabama!
Last edited by Turfdawg67; 07-31-2018 at 08:11 PM.
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07-31-2018, 08:12 PM
#2496

Originally Posted by
Turfdawg67
But S'gun, in all of his wisdom, says it's us, the fans!! When Freezus and the Network were clicking' on all cylinders, hookers, cars and cash... it was still us then too. Hell, I'm sure that my negative thoughts are THE reason Freddie Milons went to Alabama!
Yeah, people don't normally accept what they don't want to hear.
MSU people are typically shitty sales people. It's a hindrance we must solve.
That or they don't realize recruiting is sales. MSU people believe recruiting is about logic or some other BS.
Recruits believe what you tell them too.
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07-31-2018, 08:59 PM
#2497
There's nothing we can do about Ole Miss. There's nothing anyone else will do about Ole Miss. They cheated and got reported probably 100 times before Tunsil ****ed 'em on national television. The NCAA was JDAMed with the burden of proof with their backs against the wall, when all they really wanted was just leave it alone and get out of town. Now we watch them shake our class up, and we sit back and watch it. When you consider the long line of crooks affiliated with that program it should leave no room for surprise. Nothing has changed.
Let's harness this.
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07-31-2018, 09:01 PM
#2498

Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Yeah, people don't normally accept what they don't want to hear.
MSU people are typically shitty sales people. It's a hindrance we must solve.
That or they don't realize recruiting is sales. MSU people believe recruiting is about logic or some other BS.
Recruits believe what you tell them too.
Blah, blah, blah... give me or any MSU fan a bag of cash with a chick waiting in a hotel and I'll get you just about any football player you want.
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07-31-2018, 09:01 PM
#2499

Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Yeah, people don't normally accept what they don't want to hear.
MSU people are typically shitty sales people. It's a hindrance we must solve.
That or they don't realize recruiting is sales. MSU people believe recruiting is about logic or some other BS.
Recruits believe what you tell them too.
So you're saying we should have a recruit-a-palooza weekend with $100 hand shakes, alcohol and loose women?
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07-31-2018, 09:07 PM
#2500

Originally Posted by
Bothrops
There's nothing we can do about Ole Miss. There's nothing anyone else will do about Ole Miss. They cheated and got reported probably 100 times before Tunsil ****ed 'em on national television. The NCAA was JDAMed with the burden of proof with their backs against the wall, when all they really wanted was just leave it alone and get out of town. Now we watch them shake our class up, and we sit back and watch it. When you consider the long line of crooks affiliated with that program it should leave no room for surprise. Nothing has changed.
Let's harness this.
Auburn showed everyone the blueprint - fight and sue! 17 'em, Lets go "all in". We'll even have wrist bands that say that... oh wait.
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