John Emery with the curveball..

[ShotgunDawg]

Stolen from Twitter (still can't figure out to embed a tweet)... this is sickening!

In 2019, UGA will be running junior 5-star RB D’Andre Swift, sophomore 5-star RBs Zamir White and James Cook, and freshman 5-star RB John Emery.

And they’ll be running behind a hoard of 5-star offensive lineman.

They are cheating their asses off.

There is no way that anyone sane kid signs up for that depth chart. Absolutely lunacy

[maroonmania]

They are cheating their asses off.

There is no way that anyone sane kid signs up for that depth chart. Absolutely lunacy

Exactly, 4 five star RBs in 3 recruiting classes? That's insane. There is only one football to go around.

[Hambone]

They’ve done it for a while, even before Richt left. Georgia has always been an absolute RB factory. If you’re the best in the country why would you not go there?

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

If you?re the best in the country why would you not go there?

... because you don't want to wait 2 years to ever see the field, split carries at best when you do, and possibly bet buried if one of the 3 5* RBs behind you are generational? The alternative is to come to a school like State (or even Auburn, they have solid RBs but not Emery level) and get carries in your first year with less risk of being left behind if you get injured. UGA has shown they can develop and NFL RB for sure, but that's not really a hard position to coach so a lot of places can get you there. Potential for rings is the biggest advantage they have but how sweet is it to win a ring if you're riding the bench?

[msstate7]

... because you don't want to wait 2 years to ever see the field, split carries at best when you do, and possibly bet buried if one of the 3 5* RBs behind you are generational? The alternative is to come to a school like State (or even Auburn, they have solid RBs but not Emery level) and get carries in your first year with less risk of being left behind if you get injured. UGA has shown they can develop and NFL RB for sure, but that's not really a hard position to coach so a lot of places can get you there. Potential for rings is the biggest advantage they have but how sweet is it to win a ring if you're riding the bench?

Devil's advocate... if you're a 5-star, you are the best of the best. Each one probably feels they are better than the other one... Georgia probably plays this up by saying the better player will play no matter their class

ETA... with 2 of the best RBs in the country last season, Georgia still got 4 more RBs 50+ carries including a true freshman. By contrast, we got 2 RBs 50+ carries

[ShotgunDawg]

... because you don't want to wait 2 years to ever see the field, split carries at best when you do, and possibly bet buried if one of the 3 5* RBs behind you are generational? The alternative is to come to a school like State (or even Auburn, they have solid RBs but not Emery level) and get carries in your first year with less risk of being left behind if you get injured. UGA has shown they can develop and NFL RB for sure, but that's not really a hard position to coach so a lot of places can get you there. Potential for rings is the biggest advantage they have but how sweet is it to win a ring if you're riding the bench?

THIS

The covering for blue bloods is ridiculous. It's pathetic how people can't think

[ShotgunDawg]

Devil's advocate... if you're a 5-star, you are the best of the best. Each one probably feels they are better than the other one... Georgia probably plays this up by saying the better player will play no matter their class

ETA... with 2 of the best RBs in the country last season, Georgia still got 4 more RBs 50+ carries including a true freshman

Come mane.

There is no kid that grows up wanting to be in this depth chart situation. It's ridiculous that people can't see the obvious here

[confucius say]

Tusk, time for the REC to get uga busted by the NCAA.

[msstate7]

Come mane.

There is no kid that grows up wanting to be in this depth chart situation. It's ridiculous that people can't see the obvious here

I think everyone cheats. I can see the sell at Georgia though. Smart has revitalized that program... it's the hot program now. Even with 2 NFL RBs last season, Georgia got a true freshman 81 carries.

[confucius say]

So starting next year uga will have the best talent in the country according to recruiting stars. Smart better start winnin the nattys.

[ShotgunDawg]

I think everyone cheats. I can see the sell at Georgia though. Smart has revitalized that program... it's the hot program now. Even with 2 NFL RBs last season, Georgia got a true freshman 81 carries.

No, just no.

Everyone speeds, yes, but only blue bloods can get away with what they are currently doing.

Why? Because people like you give them the benefit of the doubt.

FWIW, I don't think the NCAA can stop this. I think the only way to create a more level playing field is to reduce scholarships. Instead of 85, reduce it to 70 total & you can sign 20 a year. That controls the problem immediately

[ShotgunDawg]

So starting next year uga will have the best talent in the country according to recruiting stars. Smart better start winnin the nattys.

It's pretty obvious why they got rid of Richt

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I think everyone cheats. I can see the sell at Georgia though. Smart has revitalized that program... it's the hot program now. Even with 2 NFL RBs last season, Georgia got a true freshman 81 carries.

Everyone cheats, but you have to ask "if they are all cheating at the same level, how come UGA is blowing all their peers out of the water?". This point isn't even about Emery specifically- UGA is blowing Texas, Bama, Oklahoma, Florida State, Clemson, and Auburn out of the water and while I get that it's a "hot" program, that also applies to Clemson and Texas. So what separates UGA? Saying Smart is the best recruiter only accounts for so much of the gap, but with a gap this big it doesn't account for all of it. The only conclusion I see is that they're cheating more than other blue bloods.

So, logically, this increased cheating would be extended to their #1 RB target. Whether you can excuse Emery himself because of UGA's pedigree of RB success, it doesn't account for the insane success with other 5* and high 4* targets relative to the other top programs

[msstate7]

No, just no.

Everyone speeds, yes, but only blue bloods can get away with what they are currently doing.

Why? Because people like you give them the benefit of the doubt.

FWIW, I don't think the NCAA can stop this. I think the only way to create a more level playing field is to reduce scholarships. Instead of 85, reduce it to 70 total & you can sign 20 a year. That controls the problem immediately

If you can't see why a kid would rather play at Georgia/bama/Ohio state than us, you probably are thinking with your heart too much

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

No, just no.

Everyone speeds, yes, but only blue bloods can get away with what they are currently doing.

Why? Because people like you give them the benefit of the doubt.

FWIW, I don't think the NCAA can stop this. I think the only way to create a more level playing field is to reduce scholarships. Instead of 85, reduce it to 70 total & you can sign 20 a year. That controls the problem immediately

I'm going to have to disagree with the scholarship part. All that would happen is that the blue bloods would cut the bottom 5 players each class (usually high 3*, sometimes low 4* too) and those players would bump the lowest 5/20 in say, our class. But UGA and Bama would still have same number of 5 and high/medium 4s, and on average they will still beat the low 4/high 3s that got the axe.

It might help a small amount, but there will still be the same incentives to cheat as is there now and UGA would have the same number of .95+ rated guys as they would anyway

[msstate7]

If we would've gotten emery, good clean recruiting by an outstanding staff.

Georgia got emery bc they are low down, rotten cheaters

[ShotgunDawg]

If you can't see why a kid would rather play at Georgia/bama/Ohio state than us, you probably are thinking with your heart too much

That's the not the question here. I completely realize why a kid would rather play for UGA, Bama, & OSU over us.

The question though is why would he rather play for UGA, Bama, & OSU over us so much that he'd enter into a depth chart of numerous other 5 star RBs when he could be the man at MSU playing the same schedule in the same conference.

Also, you realize we led for this guy 2 weeks ago... right? Are you telling me that he JUST decided he would rather play for UGA, LSU, or OSU over us?

Think about that.

[ShotgunDawg]

If we would've gotten emery, good clean recruiting by an outstanding staff.

Georgia got emery bc they are low down, rotten cheaters

Well, they obviously outbid whatever we were offering.

[ShotgunDawg]

I'm going to have to disagree with the scholarship part. All that would happen is that the blue bloods would cut the bottom 5 players each class (usually high 3*, sometimes low 4* too) and those players would bump the lowest 5/20 in say, our class. But UGA and Bama would still have same number of 5 and high/medium 4s, and on average they will still beat the low 4/high 3s that got the axe.

It might help a small amount, but there will still be the same incentives to cheat as is there now and UGA would have the same number of .95+ rated guys as they would anyway

Maybe. It would help though.

College football teams don't need 85 scholarships. 70 would be plenty.

I don't think you can remove the incentives to cheat & I don't think they NCAA is capable of stopping it. Therefore, I think all the NCAA can do is try to create rules that hopefully make it impossible to UGA to hoard 4-5 5* running backs on their roster.

[ShotgunDawg]

Personally, I think Emery is just bleeding LSU for every dime & that they'll eventually meet his price & he'll sign with them.

I can't help but wonder what would've happened had he remained a 4 star. Would we have gotten him?