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    The Ginns seem to really like Lemonis

    https://247sports.com/college/missis...onis-119385517

    Some good positive stuff on how the Ginn's feel about the new hire.

    Its pretty cool that Mike Ginn knows Kyle Bunn and he spoke highly of Lemonis to the Ginn's plus Mike believes Lemonis knows how to handle a good two-way player. Positive vibes

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    We'd all love for him to come to S'Ville but I just don't see it happening. Remember that the kids agent is Boras so unfortunately I feel a lot of this is positioning for negotiations with the Dodgers.

    It all boils down to if the college experience and the 15% chance you move UP in the draft is worth potentially giving up about $1.2M in take home pay today

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    So Bunn and Mike Ginn played softball together?

    Wow, small world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irondawg View Post
    We'd all love for him to come to S'Ville but I just don't see it happening. Remember that the kids agent is Boras so unfortunately I feel a lot of this is positioning for negotiations with the Dodgers.

    It all boils down to if the college experience and the 15% chance you move UP in the draft is worth potentially giving up about $1.2M in take home pay today
    The thing about Boras though, is that he pushes more kids to school than any other agent.

    He has an extensive track record of not accepting a penny less that what the kid is asking for and thus he always maintains leverage throughout all his negotiations.

    Teams are well aware that Boras does not settle. The kid will go to school if the Dodgers don't meet his demands.

    What happens to Boras clients that get hurt? He hires them
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    The thing about Boras though, is that he pushes more kids to school than any other agent.

    He has an extensive track record of not accepting a penny less that what the kid is asking for and thus he always maintains leverage throughout all his negotiations.

    Teams are well aware that Boras does not settle. The kid will go to school if the Dodgers don't meet his demands.

    What happens to Boras clients that get hurt? He hires them
    Y'all listen to Shotgun on this, he knows of what he speaks.

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    Seems like the Ginns really love State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    The thing about Boras though, is that he pushes more kids to school than any other agent.

    He has an extensive track record of not accepting a penny less that what the kid is asking for and thus he always maintains leverage throughout all his negotiations.

    Teams are well aware that Boras does not settle. The kid will go to school if the Dodgers don't meet his demands.

    What happens to Boras clients that get hurt? He hires them
    I’m not big on everything Boras does in negotiations but with this part he is fantastic. How he handles HS draftees and injuried players, very good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    I’m not big on everything Boras does in negotiations but with this part he is fantastic. How he handles HS draftees and injuried players, very good job.
    Agree on that. He's a jerk sometimes but the guy takes care of his clients and that's why they pay and why so many hire him.

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    Did not know that about Boras so that's interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irondawg View Post
    We'd all love for him to come to S'Ville but I just don't see it happening. Remember that the kids agent is Boras so unfortunately I feel a lot of this is positioning for negotiations with the Dodgers.

    It all boils down to if the college experience and the 15% chance you move UP in the draft is worth potentially giving up about $1.2M in take home pay today
    If he moves up to the top 10 then he doubles his bonus in just 2 years. That is an outstanding return but there is a good bit of risk involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    The thing about Boras though, is that he pushes more kids to school than any other agent.

    He has an extensive track record of not accepting a penny less that what the kid is asking for and thus he always maintains leverage throughout all his negotiations.

    Teams are well aware that Boras does not settle. The kid will go to school if the Dodgers don't meet his demands.

    What happens to Boras clients that get hurt? He hires them
    Hire them to do what?

    What about the ones that go from few million on table to a few hundred thousand later?

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    And as far as Boras goes-

    Thanks Jake Gautreau.

    I think this is the first recruit that we have ever had that had Boras as an advisor.

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    It would be awesome if he came, but that Genes Page article seems almost too perfect. It makes it seem like there is no question he is coming, but that can’t be true.

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    Don't forget many big prospects get mega bucks to sign, a chance to make unimaginable $ if they make the bigs and are successful and often a contract that pays college costs later in life. The flip side: minor league life style a tough way to go. I can't imagine my soon to be 18 year old son being on his own in that environment straight out of high school. God Bless the Ginn's in this wonderful but tough decision and opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    Don't forget many big prospects get mega bucks to sign, a chance to make unimaginable $ if they make the bigs and are successful and often a contract that pays college costs later in life. The flip side: minor league life style a tough way to go. I can't imagine my soon to be 18 year old son being on his own in that environment straight out of high school. God Bless the Ginn's in this wonderful but tough decision and opportunity.
    Well said. You just summed it all up in a nutshell.

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    How can he hire an agent and not violate NCAA rules?

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    Quote Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg View Post
    How can he hire an agent and not violate NCAA rules?
    He hasn't hired him. He's an unpaid advisor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    He hasn't hired him. He's an unpaid advisor.
    Standard Operating Procedure for all high profile guys these days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bully13 View Post
    Standard Operating Procedure for all high profile guys these days?
    Oh yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Agree on that. He's a jerk sometimes but the guy takes care of his clients and that's why they pay and why so many hire him.
    Sounds like he's only a jerk if you are opposite the negotiating table from him, but his job is the represent his clients, and to them he's far from a jerk. If he's not doing anything unscrupulous, and is only a jerk for advising his client not to settle for below market value, he's not really a jerk.

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