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    Quote Originally Posted by preachermatt83 View Post
    Henderson does not deserve to be the HC of miss state. Even if we win the whole thing. He makes too many bone headed decisions. Tonight's loss was 100 percent on him.
    If YoYo Ma wins the National championship he deserves to be the head coach

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pit Bull View Post
    If we win the whole "shebang", we will almost have no choice but to hire him (provided he wants the job). The national sports media will come down on us and Cohen like a duck on a June bug and give MSU some of the worst reporting and bad raps you have ever seen. Cohen will have to sit down with Hendy, Gautreau, Brown and key players and get a feel for where things stand. It might be a Hendy 2 year contract with Gautreau becoming the HC after that. Or something like that. Pay them both well to keep them around. There are lots of ways Cohen can set up an arrangement that will please most and give Gautreau something to look forward to and be our future. But like I said, if we win it all.....Cohen will almost have to name Henderson as full time HC for X amount of years. In fact, he's close to having to do it just because we got to the CWS. Continuity is critical to college baseball coaching. I really thought Canny set our program back 2-3 years by his actions. Luckily, our current coaches have slap turned that around.....a good mixture of experience, youth, and chemistry.
    Did USC get ripped for not hiring Orgeron? If they did I certainly don't care and I don't think any less of USCw football.

    We have to not worry about what others will think about us and do what is best for MSU.

    I think we are in a unique position to take the next step. And honestly I wouldn't be surprised if some of these big names that have pulled their names out re-consider once our season is over. We'll see.

    If we can't get a proven big name coach I would much rather go with a young up and comer like Coach Waz at Purdue, Tony Vitiello at Tennessee or even Jake Gautreau than someone that is in his 60's and is probably going to retire in a few years anyway.

    And as I have said making Gautreau the coach in waiting whether official or understood could come back to bite us if someone else comes along and decides to make him their head coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yjnkdawg View Post
    Preacher, do you really think you deserve to have that avatar? You started using it as a joke and basically to criticize and make fun of Henderson (am I right?). On the other hand, our players bought into his program, respect and believe in him. Two different methods of thinking.
    Preach got criticized by me and others for having Tim Tadlock as the avatar. I think his current avatar should stay, team has been hot since he changed it. DO NOT CHANGE IT Preach, not even for a Chiquita Banana

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    Henderson doesn't look to me like a guy about to retire. Baseball coaches can coach longer than football coaches usually. It's not as stressful a position. We know what he have with Henderson and as of today it looks pretty good. We get him a stud pitching coach and give Gautreau a fat raise with the HCIW title we keep our momentum going for awhile. Bringing in someone from a completely different program like Purdue I think brings a far greater risk of us taking a couple steps back before we can get back to where we are right now with no guarantees we'll take the next step forward than the risk of keeping Henderson and then turning the reigns over to Gautreau in a couple years does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    Kentucky has the most draft picks in the country in the last two years and now Henderson has guided us to Omaha. Perhaps we are getting Henderson as he's peaking and not Polk 2.0. It's easier to recruit here than Kentucky.
    You realize he was getting out of baseball for awhile due to burn out when we got him right? Cohen talked him into coming here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Did USC get ripped for not hiring Orgeron? If they did I certainly don't care and I don't think any less of USCw football.

    We have to not worry about what others will think about us and do what is best for MSU.

    I think we are in a unique position to take the next step. And honestly I wouldn't be surprised if some of these big names that have pulled their names out re-consider once our season is over. We'll see.

    If we can't get a proven big name coach I would much rather go with a young up and comer like Coach Waz at Purdue, Tony Vitiello at Tennessee or even Jake Gautreau than someone that is in his 60's and is probably going to retire in a few years anyway.

    And as I have said making Gautreau the coach in waiting whether official or understood could come back to bite us if someone else comes along and decides to make him their head coach.
    MSU baseball is NOT USC football. You are talking about one of the top 3-4 programs of all time with USC football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Did USC get ripped for not hiring Orgeron? If they did I certainly don't care and I don't think any less of USCw football.

    We have to not worry about what others will think about us and do what is best for MSU.

    I think we are in a unique position to take the next step. And honestly I wouldn't be surprised if some of these big names that have pulled their names out re-consider once our season is over. We'll see.

    If we can't get a proven big name coach I would much rather go with a young up and comer like Coach Waz at Purdue, Tony Vitiello at Tennessee or even Jake Gautreau than someone that is in his 60's and is probably going to retire in a few years anyway.

    And as I have said making Gautreau the coach in waiting whether official or understood could come back to bite us if someone else comes along and decides to make him their head coach.
    According to Bo on OOB this morning, McDonnell’s people are still in touch.

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    Last thing I will say on this. If you didn't think he was the guy two weeks ago, he ain't the guy today. Don't get caught up in your feelings.

    If the position was vacant Henderson wouldn't be in the top 10 candidates to fill it.
    Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    Last thing I will say on this. If you didn't think he was the guy two weeks ago, he ain't the guy today. Don't get caught up in your feelings.

    If the position was vacant Henderson wouldn't be in the top 10 candidates to fill it.
    But let's say he was in the exact same situation he's in now but is the interim as USM, or auburn, or Arizona; wherever...if he had gone on this type of run I think he would be a candidate. Maybe not a top of the list candidate but a guy Cohen would check on and the fans would be interested in.

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    I will say again, any decent coach in America can get us to the CWS. We've already proven that. We're doing it about every 3-4 years right now. Who can get us there 3 straight years? Who can win it? Who can maintain a program that competes for the SEC championship most years and is in the CWS multiple times?

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    The coaches that said they pulled out of contention, were not all their teams still playing when they said they pulled out? Duh!, makes sense to me, all the talk about them leaving would surely have an affect on their teams. Coaches lie, maybe not these , but I've seen enough of it in the past to take what they say with a grain of salt, especially about leaving for another job.

    What was Tubby's famous statement before he got on the plane at Oxford leaving for Auburn?? Pine box?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    You realize he was getting out of baseball for awhile due to burn out when we got him right? Cohen talked him into coming here.
    Was that right after Kentucky fired him? You know Howland took a year off from coaching after UCLA fired him. To me I look at that as a coach taking advantage of an opportunity to take a little R&R. Can't blame a man for wanting to seize that small window of opportunity to do some fishing and drink some beers for a bit. Looks like it didn't last long just like Howland's didn't last long.

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