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    Henderson certainly hasn’t made some great decisions. But, the pitching issue is simply one of talent or a lack there of. Our staff is not very good and it becomes increasingly harder to manage a staff when you only have one legit starter, and two more that are either on or off. Couple that with the fact that we have 2 maybe 3 bullpen arms that are just ok. It’s honestly a crap shoot on who we bring out of the pen outside of self. Everyone else has been atrociously inconsistent out of the pen.

    The bottom line is we aren’t a very good or complete team talent wise. We scrap better than any other team in the country and that is why we are where we are. Not a single one of y’all could manage this staff 100% effectively and Henderson wasn’t hired to be the head coach. He knows he isn’t a great head coach but he is exactly what we needed when we got dealt the situation we did.

    I would also love to know where all the love for Gautreau is coming from. Not saying he isn’t good but our success at the plate is largely just from talented freshman catching up to the speed of the game.

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    I was wrong. Let’s hire Gary and get him a bad ass pitching coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarketingBully View Post
    I was wrong. Let’s hire Gary and get him a bad ass pitching coach.
    Lol. I don't see how you can not hire him now but I still don't think he's what's best for our future
    Romans 5:8

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    Quote Originally Posted by preachermatt83 View Post
    Lol. I don't see how you can not hire him now but I still don't think he's what's best for our future
    There's a ton of really good and really young position talent on this team and going to Omaha. If the pitching comes back together, and it's possible since several of those guys are young we could be good for several years. And I don't think one can really say Henderson couldn't lead this group to a legit NC opportunity...hell hes doin it rite now. He may not be my first choice but if we spend some money on a pitching coach and let him be the figure head I think we'll be fine.

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    One thing for sure about Henderson, he has class, watching the players after the game and picking him up and pouring water on him says a lot what they think of him.

    Not saying he is our future either, but I am extremely excited for him!

    HailState, OMAHA BOUND!

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    One thing for sure about Henderson, he has class, watching the players after the game and picking him up and pouring water on him says a lot what they think of him.

    Not saying he is our future either, but I am extremely excited for him!

    HailState, OMAHA BOUND!
    I certainly agree with this.
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    Say what you want about Gary's game decisions, but I thought his pitching changes were spot on tonight. Made the right calls at the right times.

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    Probably Henderson's best coaching job was tonight. Again calmness was huge going out and settling pitchers and making the right changes!

    So much drama in 11 innings, so many momentum swings!

    Lastly, that damn turf extended the game for Vandy, not one single play did it help us tonight! Hate that stuff!

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    I said before the regionals his resume before here wasn't good enough. And it wasn't.

    But he has done an amazing job this year. It's insane not to give him credit.

    And going back to my initial feelings on this. I said his resume wasn't good enough. I would like a coach with multiple trips.....but Henderson has one. And you would be hard pressed to find a coach who has dealt with as much shit and adversity as him.

    So his CWS trip is pretty damn impressive. From taking over after a scandal, to having everyone just scream no to the thought of hiring him

    Also a big chunk of the team he took to the CWS happen to be available for him to coach again next year.

    Oh. And go look at the guys Kentucky is having drafted that he recruited. He apparently can recruit. Ride this team to another CWS next year, with a good recruiter......I am starting to buy into that

    stat about Kentucky

    Their 13 picks this year are the most in the country.

    Their 21 total picks in 2017/18 drafts are the most in the country.

    Their12 total Top 10 round picks the past two drafts are the most in the country
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    If Henderson was not our coach, and the position was vacant, would you hire him?
    Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by preachermatt83 View Post
    Henderson does not deserve to be the HC of miss state. Even if we win the whole thing. He makes too many bone headed decisions. Tonight's loss was 100 percent on him.
    Thanks for your opinion and participation on EliteDawgs.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    If Henderson was not our coach, and the position was vacant, would you hire him?
    ^^^^^This

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    If Henderson was not our coach, and the position was vacant, would you hire him?
    Would he be coaching another young team with a questionably talented pen that had every excuse in the book to fail to the CWS? Cuz if so there'd be a thread on here about him.

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    Gary’s been here 3 years. We have no pitching talent or development. That falls on him. I don’t see great arms coming in either. We’re looking at another Ron Polk situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Gary’s been here 3 years. We have no pitching talent or development. That falls on him. I don’t see great arms coming in either. We’re looking at another Ron Polk situation.
    At least get it right if you're gonna rip him... 2 years. He also had a crap load of pre-existing TJ surgeries to deal with

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    After sleeping on it, I have mad respect for Coach Henderson (first time I remember putting those 2 words together). I'm not sure anyone else could have done what he's done with this team, even the IB himself. He deserves a shot. I dont know if he's the best decision for our long term success, but the kids play their heart out for him and obviously love him. Watch a few of the aftermath clips and that is blatantly apparent. 3 years, 3 coaches, 3 supers, and a CWS... Giving Gary a shot for 2 years isn't going to destroy this PROGRAM... Get him an outstanding pitching coach who can also recruit and it just might propel us.

    Can't believe I am typing this, but if we can't pull Schloss, McDonnell, Tadlock, or Corbin why not Gary (or Jake)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    At least get it right if you're gonna rip him... 2 years. He also had a crap load of pre-existing TJ surgeries to deal with
    He came in before Cohen left. He’s been over 2 years.

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    Ron Polk went to the CWS one year and was let go the next. Should we have kept him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    He came in before Cohen left. He’s been over 2 years.
    So you holding a class against him that had nothing to do with him? Does he get credit for the outstanding position players that are freshmen then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    At least get it right if you're gonna rip him... 2 years. He also had a crap load of pre-existing TJ surgeries to deal with
    Name the studs he’s signed here. There are none. Show me those magnificent arms. And only one may return. Who takes their places?

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