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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    You realize this is the 3rd coach that's played him at SS here at state?
    Gridley was the SS until this year. Who you chose over foambat. Henderson is a damn idiot which i don't think will get any argument. This was Foambats prove it year....and he has...

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    There are no defensive metrics for college baseball. He looks to have good range right, only decent range left, and a plus arm. His range this season is not as good as his freshman year. Going left is starting to be an issue for him.

    Now what do you support that he isn't a SS on?
    He's an average SEC defender at best. Eye test, stats, whatever the hell you want to use. He's being done wrong by henderson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    There are no defensive metrics for college baseball. He looks to have good range right, only decent range left, and a plus arm. His range this season is not as good as his freshman year. Going left is starting to be an issue for him.

    Now what do you support that he isn't a SS on?
    An unbiased eye test.

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    Belmont was a better third baseman than SS, not sure why anyone thinks he is a Sec SS, he's not.

    I agree with isid, sad we have to run the kid out there, it's not Belmont's fault.

    I don't know who we have as a backup or who we got coming in next year to play SS, but lord knows we need one badly. I'm not sure who the worse ever at playing SS for Msu, but he's gotta be right there with whomever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I seen it dawg View Post
    Gridley was the SS until this year. Who you chose over foambat. Henderson is a damn idiot which i don't think will get any argument. This was Foambats prove it year....and he has...
    He obviously doesn't have the batting average for what you would want in the lineup much less at the 4 hole. I don't know why you use the dumbass nickname that Coach34 came up with. Hitting with a foam bat takes away all the pop, that is most definitely not his problem. Hell, he might benefit from not swinging so damn hard and just try to make solid contact. It is ridiculous to nickname the guy who leads the team in HRs foam bat. At least get creative with the dumb ass nicknames running our players down. At least when 34 called Dak "Checkdown Charlie", Dak did check down a lot. We later found out it was a lot to do with playing with broken ribs that no one knew about but still he did it.

    After saying all of that, some guys don't have a good mind set for hitting 4th. On my high school team, I was hitting 7th - I was not a HR hitter, more driving into gap power. We kept having a merry go round at the 4th hole. Our guy hitting 6th who had some pop was hitting really well. Coach moved him to 4th and he immediately went into a slump until he was moved back to 6th. He finally moved me to 4th and I had no problem. I figure I was the only one he put there that wasn't trying to hit a HR. The hype with "hitting clean up" sometimes gets to people kind of like starting in basketball isn't always the best for every player. Stapleton was a lot better off the bench than when he started.

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    He isn’t a SEC everyday SS.. that’s the bottom line.
    Everyone can go back and forth all they want . It doesn’t make a shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    He obviously doesn't have the batting average for what you would want in the lineup much less at the 4 hole. I don't know why you use the dumbass nickname that Coach34 came up with. Hitting with a foam bat takes away all the pop, that is most definitely not his problem. Hell, he might benefit from not swinging so damn hard and just try to make solid contact. It is ridiculous to nickname the guy who leads the team in HRs foam bat. At least get creative with the dumb ass nicknames running our players down. At least when 34 called Dak "Checkdown Charlie", Dak did check down a lot. We later found out it was a lot to do with playing with broken ribs that no one knew about but still he did it.

    After saying all of that, some guys don't have a good mind set for hitting 4th. On my high school team, I was hitting 7th - I was not a HR hitter, more driving into gap power. We kept having a merry go round at the 4th hole. Our guy hitting 6th who had some pop was hitting really well. Coach moved him to 4th and he immediately went into a slump until he was moved back to 6th. He finally moved me to 4th and I had no problem. I figure I was the only one he put there that wasn't trying to hit a HR. The hype with "hitting clean up" sometimes gets to people kind of like starting in basketball isn't always the best for every player. Stapleton was a lot better off the bench than when he started.
    Not to keep harping on this but why does “foam bat” strike so many nerves???? When
    Stone hands Morrow, IJ Glass, our FG kicker 2 years ago was basically getting death threats, Holloway got treated liked he was the worse player on the team, and Ado a true freshman gets called our more than he should and nobody has an issue with them. But heaven forbid this kid is given a nickname and folks go straight mommy/daddy on here... He plays every ****ing game and can barley hit above the Mendoza line.. instead of foam bat maybe it should be No bat..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    He obviously doesn't have the batting average for what you would want in the lineup much less at the 4 hole. I don't know why you use the dumbass nickname that Coach34 came up with. Hitting with a foam bat takes away all the pop, that is most definitely not his problem. Hell, he might benefit from not swinging so damn hard and just try to make solid contact. It is ridiculous to nickname the guy who leads the team in HRs foam bat. At least get creative with the dumb ass nicknames running our players down. At least when 34 called Dak "Checkdown Charlie", Dak did check down a lot. We later found out it was a lot to do with playing with broken ribs that no one knew about but still he did it.

    After saying all of that, some guys don't have a good mind set for hitting 4th. On my high school team, I was hitting 7th - I was not a HR hitter, more driving into gap power. We kept having a merry go round at the 4th hole. Our guy hitting 6th who had some pop was hitting really well. Coach moved him to 4th and he immediately went into a slump until he was moved back to 6th. He finally moved me to 4th and I had no problem. I figure I was the only one he put there that wasn't trying to hit a HR. The hype with "hitting clean up" sometimes gets to people kind of like starting in basketball isn't always the best for every player. Stapleton was a lot better off the bench than when he started.
    Might wanna do a little research... c34 didn't come up with the "foambat" nickname
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    Not to keep harping on this but why does “foam bat” strike so many nerves???? When
    Stone hands Morrow, IJ Glass, our FG kicker 2 years ago was basically getting death threats, Holloway got treated liked he was the worse player on the team, and Ado a true freshman gets called our more than he should and nobody has an issue with them. But heaven forbid this kid is given a nickname and folks go straight mommy/daddy on here... He plays every ****ing game and can barley hit above the Mendoza line.. instead of foam bat maybe it should be No bat..
    It does seem like our fans are a lot more sensitive when it comes to our baseball players for some reason. I can't figure it out either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    It does seem like our fans are a lot more sensitive when it comes to our baseball players for some reason. I can't figure it out either.
    Or perhaps we?ve had a problem with all those names because we don?t understand why Mississippi State fans would be tearing down our own players.

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    Isn't Westburg the SS in waiting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNDawg35 View Post
    Isn't Westburg the SS in waiting?
    Should be the SS playing but yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Or perhaps we?ve had a problem with all those names because we don?t understand why Mississippi State fans would be tearing down our own players.
    That's fine but it still doesn't explain why it's more acceptable to do that to football and basketball players for most of our fans.

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    What position does JT Ginn play?
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    There are no defensive metrics for college baseball. He looks to have good range right, only decent range left, and a plus arm. His range this season is not as good as his freshman year. Going left is starting to be an issue for him.

    Now what do you support that he isn't a SS on?
    Unfortunately there are no good metrics for balls that get by him that are ruled basehits that somehow every shortstop we play against could get to. He does deserve the criticism IMO. He was the level of an All American out of high school and would be considered a high four star low five star if we were talking about basketball/football rankings. He was higher ranked then Mangum and yet here we are. If he was ranked that high and was a basketball or football player, our fans would massacre him and no one would stick up for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    That's fine but it still doesn't explain why it's more acceptable to do that to football and basketball players for most of our fans.
    I don't agree with doing to any of them. As a baseball player, it would suck to be ridiculed by your fan base, and have to pay to play at the same time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog1 View Post
    What position does JT Gina play?
    He could play shortstop.

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    Ginn is not going to turn down 1.5 mil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I don't agree with doing to any of them. As a baseball player, it would suck to be ridiculed by your fan base, and have to pay to play at the same time
    I don't go to other team's message boards, does every fan base tear down their own like our fans do? I understand saying the guy shouldn't be batting at all much less clean up. I don't understand the dumb as 17 nick names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    I don't go to other team's message boards, does every fan base tear down their own like our fans do? I understand saying the guy shouldn't be batting at all much less clean up. I don't understand the dumb as 17 nick names.

    Because the ones who come up with these stupid nicknames, do it for their own fun, but it is nothing against our student athletes, which justifies it.***

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