Grandstands at DNF

[msstatelp1]

I have a feeling that this mindset is one of only a few people from Noxapater and the like, and they leak out onto the message board. The other 80% of the fanbase understands the reality

And if you can now buy baseball tickets on stubhub, which you can: https://www.stubhub.com/find/s/?q=mississippi%20state

then these folks have zero room to complain, so ignore them

StubHub apparently only has General Admission tickets. I'm on mobile at the moment so I'm not sure if I missed any chairbacks or not.

[Homedawg]

StubHub apparently only has General Admission tickets. I'm on mobile at the moment so I'm not sure if I missed any chairbacks or not.

That's all their is this year. Ga chairback and ga outfield. No reserved seating

[Matty Dispatch]

ETA, then why don't the Yankees and every major league team do this since it's so easy?? Watch 75% of MLB games and half of the seats behind the plate are empty.

Here's the difference between MLB teams and MSU baseball, or any other college baseball team. In MLB, you're in a major city where all of your season ticket holders live in town. How many people who live in Starkville or the Golden Triangle can buy / want to buy season tickets to baseball? Most people who can afford them live in Jackson, or maybe near Memphis. So it's a drive to go to the game. Meaning they probably only go to one game per weekend, thus leaving their seat empty for the other games because they can't justify the drive multiple times per weekend or the cost of a hotel.

So that's why they should open up a different option like the PSL. Maybe not $500 for two seats. Maybe $300. I don't know. But the reason they couldn't get a ton of people to commit to buying them up front is because it's hard to justify buying season tickets to baseball when you can only attend 25% of the games and you can always get a general admission ticket if you want to go. If they could pay a fee for the first rights of refusal, and ultimately pay half of what the full season ticket package would cost, there would be a lot more demand. I get supply and demand, but there's also creative marketing which helps creates more demand.

And if it were that easy to get a grandstand ticket, there wouldn't be hundreds if not thousands of people walking around aimlessly. They'd be sitting in the chairbacks. If the system I proposed was enacted, then people who walk up to the game would have the option to buy a chairback. As it is right now, you have to get them from a scalper if you're a walk up. And you could get some on Stub Hub for a steep price where a season ticket holder is trying to profit, but there's not that many available. If they enacted what I'm talking about, you could have 1,000 more people able to sit in the grandstands than currently do.

[Homedawg]

Figuring out a better solution that benefits everyone isn't really getting pissed, it's just trying to figure out a better solution.

Say two season tickets in the grandstands cost $1,000. And a couple from Jackson is willing to pay that despite only going to 10 games per year. Well, what if they paid $500 for a yearly PSL, and then purchased tickets for their seats for any games they want to go to for half price. Ultimately paying $700. Then MSU sells their two seats as general admission for regular price for the other 20-some odd games and makes $700 off them.

The couple who purchased the PSLs save money. MSU makes more money. More people have access to the grandstands. Win, win, win.

To shoot another hole in this, I'd reserve every week game coming or not and not buy any other tickets. So the midweek chairbacks would never ever be sold. You can sit there now anyway. Your plan, while admirable, is full of problems any which way you look at it.

[Matty Dispatch]

To shoot another hole in this, I'd reserve every week game coming or not and not buy any other tickets. So the midweek chairbacks would never ever be sold. You can sit there now anyway. Your plan, while admirable, is full of problems any which way you look at it.

You're misunderstanding my proposal.

1. You buy a PSL - which is a fee you pay to have the right to buy the tickets (you don't actually get tickets)

2. You then buy tickets. You don't reserve them, you buy them (probably for half of regular price since you have the PSL)

3. If you don't buy the tickets up until 24 hours prior to first pitch, they go on sale for general admission.

[Homedawg]

You're misunderstanding my proposal.

1. You buy a PSL - which is a fee you pay to have the right to buy the tickets (you don't actually get tickets)

2. You then buy tickets. You don't reserve them, you buy them (probably for half of regular price since you have the PSL)

3. If you don't buy the tickets up until 24 hours prior to first pitch, they go on sale for general admission.

I understand completely. It's the same thing. Point is nobody is going to buy any tickets to any of the other games. Therefore you didn't increase any revenue. The season ticket package guarantees money. Win lose or draw that money is there. We already have a psl. Don't you get that???? Smh.....

[drummerdawg]

The thing is we need to find a way to accommodate the walk up fans. As it is right now everything revolves around premium seating. If you want a seat on a weekend game then too bad because you're only allowed a standing room only ticket. I'm all for finding ways to help the walk up fans get an actual seat and have an enjoyable experience. It seems we have more trouble figuring this out than most SEC programs. Matty's solution may need refining but I love where the thought is. It's much better than just saying "yea well pony up or shut up".

[Matty Dispatch]

I understand completely. It's the same thing. Point is nobody is going to buy any tickets to any of the other games. Therefore you didn't increase any revenue. The season ticket package guarantees money. Win lose or draw that money is there. We already have a psl. Don't you get that???? Smh.....

Walk up fans will buy those tickets.

The PSL I'm talking about would be done annually, not a one time fee like was done now. And it wouldn't be for everyone - just those who can only make 10-15 games per year but want their grandstand seats when they do come and for when we host a Regional.

How many fans that go to a game on a SEC weekend have season tickets? At least 50% of them are walk up, and they buy a standing room only general admission ticket. But what if they were allowed to but the chairback ticket of the PSL owner who won't be attending the Saturday and Sunday game because they only wanted to go to the Friday game?

And what about all the other people who would rather sit at home and watch on TV / listen on the radio than have a standing room only ticket? What if they knew they could walk up and get a chairback ticket? The answer is that it would increase attendance from what we already have.

For pretty much every single regular season game save Super Bulldog Weekend, over 50% of the grandstands are empty. That's because the people who have those tickets can't get to every single game. Yet they are willing to buy season tickets. So they'd be willing to fork over 50% of that same money for a PSL, and then another 25% of that money for the games they'll actually attend...totaling 75% of the current revenue. Then you have the rest of the games on the home schedule (which is 75% of them) to make up that remaining 25% of revenue. I'd aim to make that up in ticket sales for SEC games since those are in demand, and then make extra profit selling the non-conference games for $5 or $10 for a chairback.

[Matty Dispatch]

The thing is we need to find a way to accommodate the walk up fans. As it is right now everything revolves around premium seating. If you want a seat on a weekend game then too bad because you're only allowed a standing room only ticket. I'm all for finding ways to help the walk up fans get an actual seat and have an enjoyable experience. It seems we have more trouble figuring this out than most SEC programs. Matty's solution may need refining but I love where the thought is. It's much better than just saying "yea well pony up or shut up".

Exactly. Right now we have a situation where you have Fan 1 who wants to go to 10 games per year and Fan 2 who wants to go to 10 games per year. The difference between the two is that Fan 1 has the money to purchase season tickets in the grandstands and Fan 2 doesn't. They never attend the same game, so every game Fan 2 goes to there's an empty chairback because Fan 1 didn't want to go. Even though Fan 2 is willing to pay more money to sit in Fan 1's empty seat he can't....so he wanders around the stadium trying to see the game. And ultimately he only attends 5 games because the view from TV is better.

[Homedawg]

Walk up fans will buy those tickets.

The PSL I'm talking about would be done annually, not a one time fee like was done now. And it wouldn't be for everyone - just those who can only make 10-15 games per year but want their grandstand seats when they do come and for when we host a Regional.

How many fans that go to a game on a SEC weekend have season tickets? At least 50% of them are walk up, and they buy a standing room only general admission ticket. But what if they were allowed to but the chairback ticket of the PSL owner who won't be attending the Saturday and Sunday game because they only wanted to go to the Friday game?

And what about all the other people who would rather sit at home and watch on TV / listen on the radio than have a standing room only ticket? What if they knew they could walk up and get a chairback ticket? The answer is that it would increase attendance from what we already have.

For pretty much every single regular season game save Super Bulldog Weekend, over 50% of the grandstands are empty. That's because the people who have those tickets can't get to every single game. Yet they are willing to buy season tickets. So they'd be willing to fork over 50% of that same money for a PSL, and then another 25% of that money for the games they'll actually attend...totaling 75% of the current revenue. Then you have the rest of the games on the home schedule (which is 75% of them) to make up that remaining 25% of revenue. I'd aim to make that up in ticket sales for SEC games since those are in demand, and then make extra profit selling the non-conference games for $5 or $10 for a chairback.

Clearly you don't go to midweek games. Why in the holy hell would walk up fans buy a chairback for $20 when they can buy a ga for $5 and sit in the same place. Please have some knowledge of he subject instead of some fantasy to make your plan work.

[Homedawg]

Exactly. Right now we have a situation where you have Fan 1 who wants to go to 10 games per year and Fan 2 who wants to go to 10 games per year. The difference between the two is that Fan 1 has the money to purchase season tickets in the grandstands and Fan 2 doesn't. They never attend the same game, so every game Fan 2 goes to there's an empty chairback because Fan 1 didn't want to go. Even though Fan 2 is willing to pay more money to sit in Fan 1's empty seat he can't....so he wanders around the stadium trying to see the game. And ultimately he only attends 5 games because the view from TV is better.

Buy the damn things on stub hub. I've already told you. This is beating my head against he damn wall

[5049]

The thing is we need to find a way to accommodate the walk up fans. As it is right now everything revolves around premium seating. If you want a seat on a weekend game then too bad because you're only allowed a standing room only ticket. I'm all for finding ways to help the walk up fans get an actual seat and have an enjoyable experience. It seems we have more trouble figuring this out than most SEC programs. Matty's solution may need refining but I love where the thought is. It's much better than just saying "yea well pony up or shut up".

Why should walk up fans be accommodated? Is it asking too much for you to get on stubhub? Everything is electronic now anyways