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    Quote Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg34 View Post
    No, of course I don?t want that. And I dont think it would come to that simply because it?s been a law for 7 years now and it?s never even been mentioned.
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    Yes, but they can kick you out for doing so, as it stands now. They just can't arrest you, unless you decide to resist being kicked out.
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    Open carry and regular concealed carry are subject to that ban. State law says I'm not
    You need to go read the AG opinion on that. It clearly states that if a sign is posted then you aren't allowed to carry it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach007 View Post
    You can not infringe upon the rights of citizens.
    MSU will just make the stadium private property and ban guns from it. Problem solved. No guns on private property. You guys aren't going to be allowed to bring your guns into the stadium. Cry about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    So the commissioner can boot a charter member?
    The membership can. Sankey would not have issued that letter without their support. Heck man MSU agrees with him on the law. Support your university.

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    We talking about the same moral sec administration that lets schools buy players with hookers, drugs, fraud,cheating and etc and turns a blind eye? Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    And someone can't make the University do something that will get the University kicked out of the SEC. So if they sue the University all the University has to do is sue them right back for trying to force them to do something that will get MSU removed from the SEC. If some dickhead wants to play hardball vs MSU over being allowed to carry a gun into the stadium they are going to end up with a gigantic lawyer bill and waste 5 years in a courtroom just to lose. You can't force a University to get kicked out of the SEC just for you to be able to bring a gun into the stadium.
    Actually they can 61. The legislature can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg34 View Post
    I read the 17ing opinion from the AG. It is exactly correct. That?s what you can?t get through your head.

    Here is that opinion. Pay special attention to point 4.

    http://www.ago.state.ms.us/releases/...ify-gun-carry/
    4. Any school, college or professional athletic event not related to firearms. – (This provision authorizes an enhanced permit holder to carry a stun gun, concealed pistol or revolver into non-firearm related events even if signage is posted pursuant to Section 45-9-101(13). However, if signage were posted relating to a firearm related school, college or professional event, enhanced permit holders would not be authorized to carry their weapons.)

    Boom, pun intended
    Not only did Mississippi State embarrass LSU on this night. Davis Wade Stadium wrecked Tiger Stadium in music choice, atmosphere and, most of all, volume.

    When I'm 80 and deaf, it's not going to be all those Springsteen concerts or Queen at Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans on Halloween Night in 1978, it will be this game...............Glen Guilbeau--Sherveport Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    The membership can. Sankey would not have issued that letter without their support. Heck man MSU agrees with him on the law. Support your university.
    Should I support my state?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    We are a charter member, they will not throw us out. Y'all are as scared of a veiled threat as you are law abiding citizens carrying a gun you have never even seen
    The "charter member can't be thrown out" rule does not exist. All it takes is a majority of the memebership. I would point out that university presidents hold that vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    MSU will just make the stadium private property and ban guns from it. Problem solved. No guns on private property. You guys aren't going to be allowed to bring your guns into the stadium. Cry about it.
    MSU can't do that without approval of the legislature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    A lot of people would change their stance if every Muslim in the US bought an AR15 and started walking around with it. Most people are fine as long as it is a good old boy even though most of the mass shootings are mentally deranged white guys.
    https://youtu.be/yJqfNroFp8U

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Should I support my state?
    Would you support your state in doing something that would have MSU kicked out of the SEC? Did you support the state vs MSU in 1963' or would you have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Well then you have no business going places where your paranoia is against the rules. If I was that fearful I wouldn't let my family near such a place. Why do you? By the way, don't go to Europe. Try late night ride on the Tube for an hour across London sometime.
    No desire to go to Europe, nor plan to.

    As far a you calling me paranoid, that means you have lost the argument because the facts aren't on your side.
    Not only did Mississippi State embarrass LSU on this night. Davis Wade Stadium wrecked Tiger Stadium in music choice, atmosphere and, most of all, volume.

    When I'm 80 and deaf, it's not going to be all those Springsteen concerts or Queen at Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans on Halloween Night in 1978, it will be this game...............Glen Guilbeau--Sherveport Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Actually they can 61. The legislature can.
    Calling bullshit on this. A single citizen can't force an SEC member to break SEC rules causing the institution to get kicked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Once again, you are wrong about that. It is and always has been against the rules of stadium entry at MSU. What this law does is make those rules unenforceable by law. That is the change. If you advocate that change applying to SEC venues in Mississippi, then you are against MSU playing SEC home games, and probabaly eventually being a memeber of the SEC, by default. You can't have it both ways according to Sankey, and he speaks for the membership, including MSU, (see Keenum's statement). Thus may wind up being 1963 all over again. What is more important to you, carrying a gun into what eventually will be a disused stadium. Or seeing MSU playing at home? That's your choice here.
    I don't think it is the only 2 choices.

    I think the SEC will have a hard time in court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Would you support your state in doing something that would have MSU kicked out of the SEC? Did you support the state vs MSU in 1963' or would you have?
    Civil rights were being violated back then. If anything, are the gun owner rights being violated here? Again though, I am not a gun guy, and really see no reason to bring a gun to a game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach007 View Post
    I don't think it is the only 2 choices.

    I think the SEC will have a hard time in court.
    Yep. I hate to even say this but there?s no way all them unm lawyers let both of us get kicked out without a huge fight. Hell they just pretty much kicked the ncaas ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Civil rights were being violated back then. If anything, are the gun owner rights being violated here? Again though, I am not a gun guy, and really see no reason to bring a gun to a game
    According to Scalia in the Heller decision, you would not infringe on ownership rights by restricting where you can take them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Well then you have no business going places where your paranoia is against the rules. If I was that fearful I wouldn't let my family near such a place. Why do you? By the way, don't go to Europe. Try late night ride on the Tube for an hour across London sometime.
    So do you lock the doors on your house at night or pitch up hitchhikers late at night? You wear your seatbelt and make your kids wear a helmet when on a bike? Does that make you paranoid or taking precautions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    4. Any school, college or professional athletic event not related to firearms. – (This provision authorizes an enhanced permit holder to carry a stun gun, concealed pistol or revolver into non-firearm related events even if signage is posted pursuant to Section 45-9-101(13). However, if signage were posted relating to a firearm related school, college or professional event, enhanced permit holders would not be authorized to carry their weapons.)
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    Boom, pun intended
    But you would still be violating the terms you voluntarily entered into when you bought your ticket. I'm glad I don't do any kind of business with you. It's a moot point in this arguement anyway. This has nothing to do with state law. You are explicitly saying you do not want MSU to have home games or be an SEC member. You value your gun more than that obviously

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    Quote Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg34 View Post
    So do you lock the doors on your house at night or pitch up hitchhikers late at night? You wear your seatbelt and make your kids wear a helmet when on a bike? Does that make you paranoid or taking precautions?
    None of those things would result in MSU not having any home games or getting kicked out of the SEC.

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