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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Passer rating...
    Dak = 151.7
    Jackson = 148.8
    Lol...so that's a big difference? It took Dak 5 years to develop that . Lamar was/is doing more in 3 years. Lamar also did more with less talent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    Let's see:

    Jackson- Passing 9,043 yards passing, 69 TD's, 27 ints
    Rushing - 4,132 , 50 TD's (3 years no redshirt)

    Dak-Passing 9,376 yards, 70 TD's, 23 ints
    Rushing- 2,521, 41 TD's (5th year Redshirted senior)

    I'm taking Jackson all day everyday. You would too if you wanted to win.
    Why? Dak did his in 2.5 years. Jackson did his in 3 years. And dak faced more nfl talent while in college.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    Lol...so that's a big difference? It took Dak 5 years to develop that . Lamar was/is doing more in 3 years. Lamar also did more with less talent.
    So your argument is Jackson developed more quickly? Ok.

    Go look at jacksons stats against sec defenses. They suck. Then go look at daks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Why? Dak did his in 2.5 years. Jackson did his in 3 years. And dak faced more nfl talent while in college.
    What part of 5 years are you missing? Is it Jackson's fault Dak didn't beat the guys In front of him? He also plays in the ACC it's loaded with NFL talent and former and runner up national champion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    So your argument is Jackson developed more quickly? Ok.

    Go look at jacksons stats against sec defenses. They suck. Then go look at daks.
    Dak had better talent around him. However, Dak couldn't have done what Jackson did at Louisville. We definitely would have won a national title with Lamar Jackson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    i was referring to the years that they were both starting qb's. The conversation, at least not from me, isn't about a tr fr year or even fr year. Moreso, the year they are leaving for the league and No, Lamar wasnt a better passer in their final year. period.
    ETA, go look at the stats, sorry your argument doesn't compute.
    Sorry your maroon colored glasses don't allow you to see why the years they played make a difference.... Big difference in a 17-18 YO and a 22 YO that has developed for 3 years before seeing meaningful snaps under one of the best QB coaches in the college game. Lamar was able to do it right out of high school with arguably less talent around him. The guy was the youngest player to ever win a Heisman man. But yea hes garbage and can't throw. What a joke.

    Sorry your argument doesn't compute. And lets see if Lamar ends up in a situation as taylormade for him as Dallas is for Dak. More than likely Lamar will end up in a sh** situation. If Dak was playing for the Browns he would already be out of the league more than likely.

    Dak was a below average to average passer up until his senior year and that is a fact. He had more help around him his junior year and that offset/ hid some deficiencies in his passing game. And I am proud Dak is a Dog and hope that he has a long and successful career but his passing ability isn't what makes him great, his intangibles are what makes Dak great.

    and statistically speaking for the 3 years since you apparently don't think it matters we can just compare Daks first three years to Lamar's first three(who was better in their first 3 years?):

    Lamar Jackson: 619-1086 57% 9,043 yds 69 TDS 27 INT 2.55 TD/INT

    Dak Prescott: 418- 692 60.7% 5,583 yds 41 TDS 18 INT 2.27 TD/INT

    Rushing:

    Lamar Jackson 655att 4,132yds 50 TDS 6.3 YPC

    Dak 376att 1,933yds 31 TDS 5.14 YPC
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    Quote Originally Posted by BB30 View Post
    Sorry your maroon colored glasses don't allow you to see why the years they played make a difference.... Big difference in a 17-18 YO and a 22 YO that has developed for 3 years before seeing meaningful snaps under one of the best QB coaches in the college game. Lamar was able to do it right out of high school with arguably less talent around him. The guy was the youngest player to ever win a Heisman man. But yea hes garbage and can't throw. What a joke.

    Sorry your argument doesn't compute. And lets see if Lamar ends up in a situation as taylormade for him as Dallas is for Dak. More than likely Lamar will end up in a sh** situation. If Dak was playing for the Browns he would already be out of the league more than likely.

    Dak was a below average to average passer up until his senior year and that is a fact. He had more help around him his junior year and that offset/ hid some deficiencies in his passing game. And I am proud Dak is a Dog and hope that he has a long and successful career but his passing ability isn't what makes him great, his intangibles are what makes Dak great.
    Nothing but the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    What part of 5 years are you missing? Is it Jackson's fault Dak didn't beat the guys In front of him? He also plays in the ACC it's loaded with NFL talent and former and runner up national champion.
    Who cares how long each was in college. Dak put up better passing stats than Jackson while taking less snaps. Fact.

    Sec has had more players go to NFL than Acc for 12 straight years. Again, Go look what Jackson did against sec teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Who cares how long each was in college. Dak put up better passing stats than Jackson while taking less snaps. Fact.

    Sec has had more players go to NFL than Acc for 12 straight years. Again, Go look what Jackson did against sec teams.
    Dak also wasn't asked to do nearly as much in the passing game as Lamar was and his YPA were less than Jacksons. Louisvilles passing game was a tad more vertical than States was under Mullen.

    And for the record I am not saying Dak wasn't a good college QB or didn't deserve to be taken higher in the draft. A pile of NFL teams screwed up not drafting him although the situation he is in has had a whole lot to do with his success. All I am saying is Lamar jackson has all of the tools needed to make a very good NFL QB.

    If anything yall arguing Dak is as good as Lamar are making an argument for why Lamar should be drafted high. They are similar players with Lamar being a bit more explosive. I don't follow Lville enough to know what type of character L. Jackson is but I haven't heard or seen anything negative about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaDawgs View Post
    ONE HELL OF A WIDEOUT
    Who is also used in the shotgun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    Let's see:

    Jackson- Passing 9,043 yards passing, 69 TD's, 27 ints
    Rushing - 4,132 , 50 TD's (3 years no redshirt)

    Dak-Passing 9,376 yards, 70 TD's, 23 ints
    Rushing- 2,521, 41 TD's (5th year Redshirted senior)

    I'm taking Jackson all day everyday. You would too if you wanted to win.
    Maybe you should read my argument. I never said I wouldn't take Lamar over dak on a college team. This is about the NFL and passing in college. At least those were my point. Try reading

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    Maybe you should read my argument. I never said I wouldn't take Lamar over dak on a college team. This is about the NFL and passing in college. At least those were my point. Try reading
    Lol... so in other words you have nothing else to argue. Cool, because Lamar is better than Dak in college in passing. Try reading and comprehending. Stats don't lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Who cares how long each was in college. Dak put up better passing stats than Jackson while taking less snaps. Fact.

    Sec has had more players go to NFL than Acc for 12 straight years. Again, Go look what Jackson did against sec teams.
    Let's get this straight. Your argument is less means more. So how would you possibly compare what Lamar did against SEC schools if he only played 5 games against them? His record against ranked teams is better than Dak's.

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    Rumor is that the Giants are considering taking him with pick #2, so actual teams may not be so skeptical of his NFL QB potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Rumor is that the Giants are considering taking him with pick #2, so actual teams may not be so skeptical of his NFL QB potential.
    Wow. That would actually put him in the same spot as RG3, who I think is a good comparison. RG3 could have been good if not for injuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Rumor is that the Giants are considering taking him with pick #2, so actual teams may not be so skeptical of his NFL QB potential.
    Omg please let this be true!!!! And there is zero chance they are this stupid......well I think. But I pray this ridiculous rumor is true.

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    Why is this such a hot topic on a MSU board?
    Yall need to get this passionate about our teams and players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    Lol... so in other words you have nothing else to argue. Cool, because Lamar is better than Dak in college in passing. Try reading and comprehending. Stats don't lie.
    Me try reading? Wtf? Twice as good of a passer? Did I say that? No that was said about Lamar over dak. The stats say that's bullshit you stupid ass. Go pull the passing stats. That's what it's based on. Nobody gives a shit about runnin in the NFL

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    28 please pull those passing stats you speak of pal..... should be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by West Tn Dawg View Post
    Why is this such a hot topic on a MSU board?
    Yall need to get this passionate about our teams and players.
    Very few are back fully invested in basketball and our recruiting is very boring right now. Just not a lot to talk about right now

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