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Originally Posted by
basedog
Kinda strange TBuck wasn't invited to join Grantham but watching our corners I can understand.
For anyone thinking our two ex Reb football players would sell Msu out is retarded thinking. Most Coaches don't hate like fans.
Exactly about the coaches. They all want to move up the ladder and the only way to do that is do a better job than their competition.
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Originally Posted by
preachermatt83
Our very own Ifyouonlyknew sent me this. He said he's 85-90 percent sure.
New Coaching Staff
HC - Joe Moorhead (44) OC Penn St
QB - Andrew Breiner (33) HC Fordham
RB - Charles Huff (34) RB Penn St
WR - Luke Getsy (33) WR Green Bay Packers
TE - Mark Hudspeath (49) HC ULL
OL - Marcus Johnson (36) OL Duke
DC - Bob Shoop (51) DC Tennessee
DL - Brian Baker (55) DL MSU
LB - Tem Lukabu (36) Defense Quality Control SF 49ers
CB - Marcus Woodson (36) DB Memphis
ST - Scott Fountain (52) Analyst UGA
On paper that's a great staff. To think we have two guys that were former head coaches and two guys from the league is big time. Now we can hopefully sit back and watch these dawgs compete for the west soon.
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Exactly....must be a bunch of kids posting on here obsessed with eggs and such. These coaches are past that crap if they ever had it to begin with.
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Originally Posted by
bigplayslay
On paper that's a great staff. To think we have two guys that were former head coaches and two guys from the league is big time. Now we can hopefully sit back and watch these dawgs compete for the west soon.
Not convinced that having former head coaches as position coaches is a great idea but guess we'll see how it works out
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Originally Posted by
was21
Not convinced that having former head coaches as position coaches is a great idea but guess we'll see how it works out
Yes we will see haha. Someone with more knowledge of coaching would have to answer that but like I said on paper- great staff.
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Originally Posted by
was21
Not convinced that having former head coaches as position coaches is a great idea but guess we'll see how it works out
What is a downfall of hiring a head coach as a position coach? I don’t think Moorhead is bringing on anyone that is going to be self centered.
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Originally Posted by
was21
Not convinced that having former head coaches as position coaches is a great idea but guess we'll see how it works out
Let's put it this way, IF they want to a HC again they need to step it up. For that matter, just to stay in college coaching.
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Originally Posted by
was21
Not convinced that having former head coaches as position coaches is a great idea but guess we'll see how it works out
There is a huge difference in hiring a HC that got fired and is long in the tooth vs hiring away a young sitting HC from a smaller school who is still climbing up the ladder.
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Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
There is a huge difference in hiring a HC that got fired and is long in the tooth vs hiring away a young sitting HC from a smaller school who is still climbing up the ladder.
Agreed. Potential problem may arise when one who was fired had smoke around him..where there's smoke there's fire and sometimes you get burned...might be a cancer in the locker room if ambition surfaces.
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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Pretty impressive staff Joe has assembled.
Yea it blows Muffins first staff out the water. Hell it blows Muffins last staff out the water.
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Originally Posted by
was21
Agreed. Potential problem may arise when one who was fired had smoke around him..where there's smoke there's fire and sometimes you get burned...might be a cancer in the locker room if ambition surfaces.
Well Briener is nothing like that and will be a big positive. Hud has been knocked back and humbled and he has no backing to pull something like that. He knows he is fortunate to be in the SEC
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Originally Posted by
bigplayslay
On paper that's a great staff. To think we have two guys that were former head coaches and two guys from the league is big time. Now we can hopefully sit back and watch these dawgs compete for the west soon.
3... shoop, Breiner, and HUD
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The more I listen to Moorheads interviews, the more excited I feel about the program going forward. Mullen’s interviews always seemed like basic coaches talk but Moorhead feels a lot more like a CEO. He has a formula for success and you can tell he’s confident in it. He’s going to hire guys with the traits he sees as valuable and plug them into his operating system.
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The only hire I question is Woodson- not because he went to Ole Miss but because the secondary at Memphis was atrocious. He probably has some good ties to both Memphis and the Mississippi Gulf Coast though.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
The only hire I question is Woodson- not because he went to Ole Miss but because the secondary at Memphis was atrocious. He probably has some good ties to both Memphis and the Mississippi Gulf Coast though.
Shoop is a safety guy, so I figure he will teach coverage more than any other coach.
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Originally Posted by
SmokeyDawg
The more I listen to Moorheads interviews, the more excited I feel about the program going forward. Mullen’s interviews always seemed like basic coaches talk but Moorhead feels a lot more like a CEO. He has a formula for success and you can tell he’s confident in it. He’s going to hire guys with the traits he sees as valuable and plug them into his operating system.
We're going to have a more cerebral coaching staff than we ever did under Dan. Hopefully that will help put us over the top against the closer games against bigger name opponents like Alabama. I bet we become a lot more analytically driven as a football program as well. Hopefully no more upper classmen favoritism.
There is a reason a lot of our assistant coaches have been head coaches or in the NFL as assistants at a young age- it's because they're pretty bright. I've seen some concerns about Tem Lukabu- but he was one of the few holdovers from Chip Kelly's staff to Kyle Shanahan's. That tells me he is probably pretty impressive.
I think Dan was smart too- but it seemed like he lacked common sense sometimes.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Shoop is a safety guy, so I figure he will teach coverage more than any other coach.
That could be the case. But I hate to say this- but if we're just looking for a recruiter we might as well should have kept Buckley. It could be that Buckley was gone either way though with the FSU opening. Or maybe Moorhead just thought he wasn't very good at coaching. It's very possible that a lot of the busts we had could have been more on the corners than the safeties at least some of the time.
Woodson gets a year to prove himself before I declare it a bad hire.
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Originally Posted by
HaggardDawg
Not trying to bitch and i know it?s been discussed, but we?re okay with 2 rebs being on staff?
I'm not really OK with it, but JoMo didn't ask my opinion about it so I'll just hope they work out alright. I'm not paranoid about them but I would have just preferred him to have hired 2 assistants in those positions that didn't have the ties to a school that would just as soon see MSU burn to the ground. Personally I don't think Coach Mo totally understands the bitterness of the rivalry or he probably wouldn't have made 2 hires from guys that went through that program. Just too many good position coaches out there to even deal with that factor at all. Its not like these 2 guys are highly proven at their jobs, heck, Memphis' defense was terrible this year. And Johnson is still very green himself as an OL coach. If we were hiring big time, experienced coaches with that background it would be much easier to overlook. As stated, believe we could have gotten equal or better qualified coaches without the OM baggage to deal with. I at least hope they both signed a 3-4 year non-compete clause for OM or its really not smart. As someone else said, OM would hire one of these guys in a heartbeat if they thought they could flip a high profile recruit by doing so and likely either one would accept.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
I'm not really OK with it, but JoMo didn't ask my opinion about it so I'll just hope they work out alright. I'm not paranoid about them but I would have just preferred him to have hired 2 assistants in those positions that didn't have the ties to a school that would just as soon see MSU burn to the ground. Personally I don't think Coach Mo totally understands the bitterness of the rivalry or he probably wouldn't have made 2 hires from guys that went through that program. Just too many good position coaches out there to even deal with that factor at all. Its not like these 2 guys are highly proven at their jobs, heck, Memphis' defense was terrible this year. And Johnson is still very green himself as an OL coach. If we were hiring big time, experienced coaches with that background it would be much easier to overlook. As stated, believe we could have gotten equal or better qualified coaches without the OM baggage to deal with. I at least hope they both signed a 3-4 year non-compete clause for OM or its really not smart. As someone else said, OM would hire one of these guys in a heartbeat if they thought they could flip a high profile recruit by doing so and likely either one would accept.
Both of them are Cutcliffe guys. And we all know how Ole Miss handled that. Cutcliffe compared to the other coaches that they have had was a lot more ethical.
And as I've said before if you want to coach at Ole Miss you have to play their recruiting game with the Network. Ole Miss may have gotten a slap on the wrist- but Barney Farrar and David Saunders certainly did not. A lot of coaches don't want to be caught up in that because Ole Miss can take a promising coach and turn them into Mississippi JUCO cannon fodder. Hugh Freeze went from hoping to get the Florida or Georgia job to hoping to get the Middle Tennessee or Troy jobs that aren't even open right now.
We may be their best option to come home and have a SEC job without getting a potential show cause.
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