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Yep, that's the ticket. Let's haul off and hire a coach from The Bronx, New York City, New York. His Fordham University experience will serve him well navigating the rural backroads of the SEC****. For gosh sakes we have enough trouble keeping coaches and wives happy from metropolitan areas of the south. Some of you need to stop and think about what you are saying. This is way more culture shock than can be overcome.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
No matter who we hire we will not outrecruit auburn, bama, LSU, and aTm. Our best chance is to recruit enough and have a staff that can outcoach them
Recruit enough? So just keep on like we’re doing? Unreal. If we get Moorhead will absolutely take a step back in recruiting no doubt and we can’t afford to do that
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Name the power 5 schools that brought in a coach from outside the program that kept the staff.....You're talking the whole defense other than the DC. No DC worth a crap is going to take that. And no, Grantham isn't coming back. He's gone after this week.
VT. Bud Black was even part of the HC hiring process. It is unusual but not unheard of that a coach or two is kept for a transition year or two from a previous staff. Coordinators even less so
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Originally Posted by
Dawg-gone-dawgs
Recruit enough? So just keep on like we’re doing? Unreal. If we get Moorhead will absolutely take a step back in recruiting no doubt and we can’t afford to do that
You have no idea how well Moorhead will or will not recruit.
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Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
VT. Bud Black was even part of the HC hiring process. It is unusual but not unheard of that a coach or two is kept for a transition year or two from a previous staff. Coordinators even less so
Every coach in America would hire Bud Foster (not Black, Bud Black was baseball player). He was a bigger deal than the head coach. Do you think VA Tech would've kept their defensive staff if Foster had left?
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Originally Posted by
Dawg-gone-dawgs
But can he recruit because that is what we need
Our current staff could not recruit so I was told but look at the talent we have.
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If we hired moorhead then getting the right staff is paramount, but it can be done. Keep Looney as TE and get someone like R. Gillespie for RB or let Peterson hit the field for a role and keep 1-2 defensive guys or get someone local and we'll be ok locking down most of the existing class and not be devoid of recruiters for 2019.
But if he comes and brings 7 guys with no ties to the south and it could be a bit of an uphill battle early.
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Originally Posted by
benbow
Yep, that's the ticket. Let's haul off and hire a coach from The Bronx, New York City, New York. His Fordham University experience will serve him well navigating the rural backroads of the SEC****. For gosh sakes we have enough trouble keeping coaches and wives happy from metropolitan areas of the south. Some of you need to stop and think about what you are saying. This is way more culture shock than can be overcome.
Yep! No one is even thinking about this
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Originally Posted by
benbow
Yep, that's the ticket. Let's haul off and hire a coach from The Bronx, New York City, New York. His Fordham University experience will serve him well navigating the rural backroads of the SEC****. For gosh sakes we have enough trouble keeping coaches and wives happy from metropolitan areas of the south. Some of you need to stop and think about what you are saying. This is way more culture shock than can be overcome.
State College, PA population is 46,000 with the nearest metropolitan area, Harrisburg, 90 miles away. He will be fine.
Last edited by BulldogDX55; 11-28-2017 at 04:35 PM.
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As an aside, Finebaum pinned down Bo w/ the question...............
Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
My biggest question is:
Who is the Coordinator for each one?
Pruitt - it has been mentioned that either Napier or possibly Lindsey (I guess if the $$$ is right) along with Friend as OL coach.
Venables - who would be OC and what kind of offense?
Moorhead - (who doesn't want moor head) - one of the most innovative offenses in the country. What kind of defense and who runs it? Any chance of keeping Grantham?
.........."in your opinion, who do you think Cohen goes with"?
"Moorhead" and then close behind is Venables
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Enough with the recruiting. It's important but for the HC it is not # 1 on the list that he is the Allstar recruiter. It's down on the criteria. The HC needs to have recruiters on staff and know the importance but he does not have to be "the guy". He just needs to be able to close and emphasize it with his coaches. He can't have that much contact to begin with.
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You either trust Cohen to make the right hire or you don't.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
You have no idea how well Moorhead will or will not recruit.
https://247sports.com/Coach/Joe-Moor...llTimeRecruits
He is gonna miraculously turn on the jets in the south?
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Moorehead allegedly has done great things for recruiting at TSUN.
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Every coach in America would hire Bud Foster (not Black, Bud Black was baseball player). He was a bigger deal than the head coach. Do you think VA Tech would've kept their defensive staff if Foster had left?
Brain fart. Didn't say anything contrary to that but you just asked to name a school that did. VT is the answer. And there have been several coaches over the years who retained staff. Dan kept Reed Stringer. It's not unheard of
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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
You either trust Cohen to make the right hire or you don't.
This.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg-gone-dawgs
He hasn't even been at Penn State two full years, and 247 doesn't even have the "primary recruiter" right a lot of the time. Quit trying to make something out of nothing. You have no idea how effective of a recruiter he'd be here, and Cohen wouldn't be considering him if he thought he couldn't get the job done on that front.
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If Cohen hires Moorhead, you can rest assured that he thinks he?ll be a good recruiter and cultural fit. None of the rest of us really know. (And I wouldn?t take some recruiting site?s database as a definitive assessment of a coach?s recruiting ability.)
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
No matter who we hire we will not outrecruit auburn, bama, LSU, and aTm. Our best chance is to recruit enough and have a staff that can outcoach them
yep
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