Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
Not very many here are anti Mullen. It's just that you absolutely flip out every time there is a rumor about Dan and another school.

History has some relevance related to period in time. What you are doing would be like me comparing America today to America in the Civil War or Revolutionary period. A lot has changed since 1940. Dan at this point is actually only about one win on average better than Jackie during the same time frame in their careers. And some of that might be because Dan gets to play an extra game against a FCS school every year- something Jackie didn't get to do.

And no question probation absolutely affected us between 2001-2006. It was our fault- but we were not penalized for anything to the point where we had to vacate wins. I would imagine if Ole Miss was allowed to continue to cheat they would be winning 9-10 a year still instead of the 5-6 they have the past two years under investigation.

You can not compare 1950 MSU with today. You're talking about an era with two way players with leather helmets for God's sakes.

In this era we are a top 30 program every year with our ceiling being a top 10 program. And we're in better shape than some blue bloods right now- like Tennessee.
I only flip out when I see "MSU Fans" blasting Dan with false info. In this era we were NOT a Top 30 program, till Dan arrived. There are people that are hell bent on rolling the dice again. It's all I have ever known , till Dan. It ain't for me. We have the first coach AT MSU since I have been alive that has no NCAA baggage,and has won HERE. The cheaters up the road are desperate to convince us he is a loser. To hell with them.