An update on the $2500 challenge Elitedawgs offered the Spirit and RebelGrove

[Spiderman]

Why would you think that Luke will not get a show cause? He is listed in the NOA between pages 30 - 43....

Because The NCAA enforcement staff didn't recommend a show cause for Luke at any time.

[Leroy Jenkins]

People like spirit Ben keep crowing that TSUN needs to avoid the 2-year ban because the players could transfer without penalty. While that is true its not that simple. Yes, with a two year ban transfers without penalty become automatic. However, the COI can accept the 1 year ban AND STILL allow transfers without penalty, its just not automatic. Its been done before.

[Dawgowar]

They are going north of 30. The suit is turning their brand almost permanently toxic - and it hasn’t dawned on them that is happening. 1 year more, 2 years more - who really cares? Their stable will abandon ship regardless.

I think there is an argument for 40 based on the matrix but fact is, they are going down hard.

[Dolphus Raymond]

My guess: 2 year bowl ban and 32 over 4
Now, since it is painfully evident that Ole Miss fans hate children, please allow me to submit a "modest proposal ". We, the good men and women that compose the "SPEDS" make the bet for them and, should the penalty include a 2 year bowl ban,(it will) we cover the bet for them. Clearly, Ole Miss fans are pussies that lack both the courage and compassion to place this bet, so let's place it for there cowardy asses. I, Dolpus Raymond, will contribute $50.00 to help them cover a bet that they lack the balls to place.

[DawgPoundtheRock]

No matter what the penalties handed down by the COI, it won't be enough.

[Dawg61]

Ole Miss ain't making a bowl this year regardless of the ban without Shae Shae. This year shouldn't count as a bowl ban.

[dawgoneyall]

A) Yes we do

B) I think the 4 year/40 is wishful thinking. It's more likely 2 or 3 and 30-plus.

Really think when the NCAA knew they had to sneak LL into the "meeting" they were set/obligated to correct the abuse to SA #39 suffered by their deliberate corrupt actions. 3 years and 40.

Of course the 3 year bowl band is immaterial..they aren't going to a bowl for ten years.

[BeardoMSU]

Coach34 -- ED owns those idiots... Walk forward, we all know who participated in the take down of OM and their booster thugs (FYI-- It was not LL and KJ, they just answered questions from the NCAA and told the truth).
It is sad that the Spirit and RebelGrove cannot admit to their poor attempt/continuation of telling Lies.
The NCAA is about to hand over to the them on a silver platter....
The COI SANCTIONS...... Whether it is tomorrow or November 24, 2017.... just waiting for the melt down that is coming....

As to what is coming for OM..... 4 years bowl ban, 40 scholarships, Show causes (Luke, Farrar, Freeze, Kiffin, Saunders, Jones), Return of Sugar Bowl Money, Boosters that have been disassociated.... The Gift that keeps on giving....

The 4 and 40 you speak of ain't gonna happen. Period. So just stop talking about it like you've got some magic 8 ball....because you don't.

Seriously, the NCAA adding just 1 more bowl ban (for a total of 2), plus the 25-30[+] scholarships most people expect them to get will absolutely cripple them. They ain't USC. The level of attrition that is coming, regardless of the increased bowl ban, will kill their program. Plus, it's not like they've recruited well the last 2 years to off-set this cluster-fu<k, so that will only compound things even worse.

They are ****ed. Period. Period. Period. Lets just start to agree with that. We don't need OM Spirit type smoke-blowin' to rile up the masses. If ever there was a group of State fans that should be immune to the bullshit, I'd hope it would be ED. That's why I enjoy this community above all others.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I?m betting including this year.

No idea why they would ever count previous scholorship reductions and bowl bans. They were still cheating.

[Mimi's Babies]

No idea why they would ever count previous scholorship reductions and bowl bans. They were still cheating.

Yes, they are still cheating. Have not stopped.

[Mimi's Babies]

The 4 and 40 you speak of ain't gonna happen. Period. So just stop talking about it like you've got some magic 8 ball....because you don't.

Seriously, the NCAA adding just 1 more bowl ban (for a total of 2), plus the 25-30[+] scholarships most people expect them to get will absolutely cripple them. They ain't USC. The level of attrition that is coming, regardless of the increased bowl ban, will kill their program. Plus, it's not like they've recruited well the last 2 years to off-set this cluster-fu<k, so that will only compound things even worse.

They are ****ed. Period. Period. Period. Lets just start to agree with that. We don't need OM Spirit type smoke-blowin' to rile up the masses. If ever there was a group of State fans that should be immune to the bullshit, I'd hope it would be ED. That's why I enjoy this community above all others.

If you take the NCAA matrix for sanctions... The pain of the sanctions would have been less to have taken the death penalty. The gift that just keeps on giving.

[FISHDAWG]

I?m betting including this year.

if they aren't bowl eligible this year will it still count towards the number of bans ?

[Spiderman]

No matter what the penalties handed down by the COI, it won't be enough.

Yep, less than 10 years from one massive NCAA case, they did it again, and less than 20 years after another massive NCAA case, they did it again ( or should say finally got caught again, it started back a year or 2 after). It's so institutionally ingrained, no matter what happens, they will slowly get back to their same old ways.

[thf24]

People like spirit Ben keep crowing that TSUN needs to avoid the 2-year ban because the players could transfer without penalty. While that is true its not that simple. Yes, with a two year ban transfers without penalty become automatic. However, the COI can accept the 1 year ban AND STILL allow transfers without penalty, its just not automatic. Its been done before.

If the NCAA gives a rat's ass about the student athletes' interests, they need to explicitly give the '16 class the option to transfer without penalty, regardless of what the technicalities of the overall penalties result in. It will be setting a bad precedent if a program is allowed to objectively and deliberately lie to student athletes in order to aid its recruiting pitch and not be punished harshly for it specifically.

[Lord McBuckethead]

No way! That would never happen!!***

Tugg McGraw's kid is looking like an old douchebag.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Bump, because I am sure the UM faithful just missed it. Surely they are not this soft to let this challenge just sit out here.

[Mutt the Hoople]

A) Yes we do

B) I think the 4 year/40 is wishful thinking. It's more likely 2 or 3 and 30-plus.

4 year death penalty
Return to Club football
Work their way up to division 2
Another 2 year death Penalty, just for the hell of it.

[msbulldog]

Tugg McGraw's kid is looking like an old douchebag.

??????Tug McGraw???????Tim McGraw who's married to Faith Hill is Tug McGraw's kid.

[Mimi's Babies]

Don't forget.... OM released confidential/classifieds NCAA documents concerning the COI Committee members, the date, time place, and who all should appear. Thus, OM forced the NCAA to spend extra money on secruity guards and bringing LL and his attorneys in the back door.

[Dolphus Raymond]

Just because.