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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Poster View Post
    I dont know but someone will come along and make an excuse for Hevesy pretty soon
    The OL recruiting is easy. Recruit everyone aTm and Arkansas recruit on the OL. Seems easy enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archdog View Post
    The OL recruiting is easy. Recruit everyone aTm and Arkansas recruit on the OL. Seems easy enough.
    Sec rankings...

    Rushing offense:
    State -- 5th
    aTm -- 6th
    Ark -- 10th tie with vandy

    Rushing yards per carry:
    aTm -- 3rd
    State -- 4th
    Ark -- 12th

    Sacks allowed:
    State -- 2nd
    aTm -- 5th
    Ark -- 13th

    TFL allowed:
    State -- 3rd
    aTm -- 4th
    Ark -- 12th

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    Yeah as a JR.. you don't think the kid can gain 20 lbs in 2 years.?? well he is legit enough for a LSU and Oregon offer..
    Go defend your boy Hev somewhere else..

    I don't go off on staff often, bu that mother ****er should get his pay check each month with a ski mask on.. he is basically robbing the university with what he gets paid..
    May not have to worry about Coach "O" before the OM mess is over......

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Sec rankings...

    Rushing offense:
    State -- 5th
    aTm -- 6th
    Ark -- 10th tie with vandy

    Rushing yards per carry:
    aTm -- 3rd
    State -- 4th
    Ark -- 12th

    Sacks allowed:
    State -- 2nd
    aTm -- 5th
    Ark -- 13th

    TFL allowed:
    State -- 3rd
    aTm -- 4th
    Ark -- 12th
    Look at our numbers vs SEC competition only, then mutual opponents only, and compare. And not just last year.

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    There are 3 position groups (OL, DL and RB) that when LUS and Bama offer everyone else should be offering as well. Especially when the player is from MS. If he has a legitimate offer from LSU and a former Bama coach wanted him I can't possibly make a case for not offering him. This whole idea of "we don't offer unless they come to camp" is dumb. I can see that mentality on the marginal kids but for a sure fired player it doesn't make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Look at our numbers vs SEC competition only, then mutual opponents only, and compare. And not just last year.
    Sec games only last 3 years going from '16 to '14...

    Rushing: 5th, 12th, 3rd
    Yards per rush: 3rd, 11th, 3rd
    Sacks allowed: 3rd, 13th, 5th
    TFL allowed: 3rd, 7th, 5th
    Pts per game: 4th, 6th, 5th

    Now is '16 the anomaly or is it '15?
    Last edited by msstate7; 03-12-2017 at 10:22 AM.

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    Mean OL. Great genetics. Room to grow. Legacy. Good film. Loves State. Yeah let's not take him and see if he can be another Day or Beckwith....so profoundly ****ing stupid I don't know where to begin. Fireable. And by not offering now and slow playing we will have to work harder to tell him but yeah we've always loved you son and convince him to come. Because he hasn't camped yet? Again fireable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I seen it dawg View Post
    Mean OL. Great genetics. Room to grow. Legacy. Good film. Loves State. Yeah let's not take him and see if he can be another Day or Beckwith....so profoundly ****ing stupid I don't know where to begin. Fireable. And by not offering now and slow playing we will have to work harder to tell him but yeah we've always loved you son and convince him to come. Because he hasn't camped yet? Again fireable.
    We might as well accept the fact that Mullen is not going to fire Hevesy no matter how poorly he recruits or coaches. We should reconcile ourselves we will never get to the SEC Championship game as long as Mullen is here, buy your tickets, and be glad to settle for a mediocre bowl game. Face it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Sec games only last 3 years going from '16 to '14...

    Rushing: 5th, 12th, 3rd
    Yards per rush: 3rd, 11th, 3rd
    Sacks allowed: 3rd, 13th, 5th
    TFL allowed: 3rd, 7th, 5th
    Pts per game: 4th, 6th, 5th

    Now is '16 the anomaly or is it '15?
    Vs the top 3 in the SEC West 2015:

    LSU- 26 carries/43 yards
    Alabama- 42 carries/89 yards
    Ole Miss- 34/148 yards

    vs Top 3 in the SEC West- 2016:

    LSU- 32 carries/56 yards
    Auburn- 33 carries/103 yards
    Alabama- 35 carries/94 yards


    Those are the numbers we put up vs the top of the SEC West year in and year out(2014 was the outlier and we all know this). It's why we never are any kind of legit threat to push for the West title. Its also why we wont be until we recruit better on the OL

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    We obviously cannot recruit offensive linemen. We will max out at 9/10 level until we correct this. I am not attempting to denigrate Mullen because he does many things well. I am simply pointing out the barrier to elite success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCDawg View Post
    We might as well accept the fact that Mullen is not going to fire Hevesy no matter how poorly he recruits or coaches. We should reconcile ourselves we will never get to the SEC Championship game as long as Mullen is here, buy your tickets, and be glad to settle for a mediocre bowl game. Face it.
    That's bullshit. It's past time for our cigar boys and AD to step up and address this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    That's bullshit. It's past time for our cigar boys and AD to step up and address this.
    You can't do that and keep program harmony. Your idea is the one that is bullshit. Cigar boys should be talking to Cohen and no one else.

    I do agree with the premise regarding the coach, however. There is just not much that can be done about it if Mullen does not want to do it.

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    We make it so tough on ourselves. When our offense get obliterated by LSU this year, it's gonna get real hot for Hev. That's gonna be ****ing ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    We make it so tough on ourselves. When our offense get obliterated by LSU this year, it's gonna get real hot for Hev. That's gonna be ****ing ugly.
    We won the Egg Bowl. Time to get fat, happy and cocky again. #Mullening

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Poster View Post
    Vs the top 3 in the SEC West 2015:

    LSU- 26 carries/43 yards
    Alabama- 42 carries/89 yards
    Ole Miss- 34/148 yards

    vs Top 3 in the SEC West- 2016:

    LSU- 32 carries/56 yards
    Auburn- 33 carries/103 yards
    Alabama- 35 carries/94 yards


    Those are the numbers we put up vs the top of the SEC West year in and year out(2014 was the outlier and we all know this). It's why we never are any kind of legit threat to push for the West title. Its also why we wont be until we recruit better on the OL
    Random, With MSTATE7 is always someone else's fault and not the Oline. Don't bother him with valid statistics. I have often thought he is Hevesy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bigdawg View Post
    Random, With MSTATE7 is always someone else's fault and not the Oline. Don't bother him with valid statistics. I have often thought he is Hevesy.
    Lol... I think the oline should take a lot of the blame, not 100% though which is what this board does

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    Not only OL, but most all positions. Like what Coach Gonzales told me a few years ago. They have to attend our camps to be offered with a few exections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Lol... I think the oline should take a lot of the blame, not 100% though which is what this board does
    It was the weak link in 2014 and 2015. It seems that it will be the weak link once again in 2017 and 2018 (years in which we have the overall talent to compete).

    The offensive line to Mullen is like quarterback to Sherrill.

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    Sure we have had issues at other positions but we've also made coaching changes at those positions. Hev's group is a constant crap stain. And he's still getting paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BayouDawg View Post
    Sure we have had issues at other positions but we've also made coaching changes at those positions. Hev's group is a constant crap stain. And he's still getting paid.
    Your issue is with Mullen then, not hev. If you have to make a coach fire an assistant, you might as well fire the HC.

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