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03-12-2017, 08:53 AM
#101

Originally Posted by
Random Poster
I dont know but someone will come along and make an excuse for Hevesy pretty soon
The OL recruiting is easy. Recruit everyone aTm and Arkansas recruit on the OL. Seems easy enough.
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03-12-2017, 09:17 AM
#102

Originally Posted by
archdog
The OL recruiting is easy. Recruit everyone aTm and Arkansas recruit on the OL. Seems easy enough.
Sec rankings...
Rushing offense:
State -- 5th
aTm -- 6th
Ark -- 10th tie with vandy
Rushing yards per carry:
aTm -- 3rd
State -- 4th
Ark -- 12th
Sacks allowed:
State -- 2nd
aTm -- 5th
Ark -- 13th
TFL allowed:
State -- 3rd
aTm -- 4th
Ark -- 12th
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03-12-2017, 09:47 AM
#103

Originally Posted by
Ari Gold
Yeah as a JR.. you don't think the kid can gain 20 lbs in 2 years.?? well he is legit enough for a LSU and Oregon offer..
Go defend your boy Hev somewhere else..
I don't go off on staff often, bu that mother ****er should get his pay check each month with a ski mask on.. he is basically robbing the university with what he gets paid..
May not have to worry about Coach "O" before the OM mess is over......
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03-12-2017, 09:57 AM
#104

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Sec rankings...
Rushing offense:
State -- 5th
aTm -- 6th
Ark -- 10th tie with vandy
Rushing yards per carry:
aTm -- 3rd
State -- 4th
Ark -- 12th
Sacks allowed:
State -- 2nd
aTm -- 5th
Ark -- 13th
TFL allowed:
State -- 3rd
aTm -- 4th
Ark -- 12th
Look at our numbers vs SEC competition only, then mutual opponents only, and compare. And not just last year.
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03-12-2017, 10:17 AM
#105
There are 3 position groups (OL, DL and RB) that when LUS and Bama offer everyone else should be offering as well. Especially when the player is from MS. If he has a legitimate offer from LSU and a former Bama coach wanted him I can't possibly make a case for not offering him. This whole idea of "we don't offer unless they come to camp" is dumb. I can see that mentality on the marginal kids but for a sure fired player it doesn't make sense.
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03-12-2017, 10:20 AM
#106

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Look at our numbers vs SEC competition only, then mutual opponents only, and compare. And not just last year.
Sec games only last 3 years going from '16 to '14...
Rushing: 5th, 12th, 3rd
Yards per rush: 3rd, 11th, 3rd
Sacks allowed: 3rd, 13th, 5th
TFL allowed: 3rd, 7th, 5th
Pts per game: 4th, 6th, 5th
Now is '16 the anomaly or is it '15?
Last edited by msstate7; 03-12-2017 at 10:22 AM.
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03-12-2017, 10:45 AM
#107
Mean OL. Great genetics. Room to grow. Legacy. Good film. Loves State. Yeah let's not take him and see if he can be another Day or Beckwith....so profoundly ****ing stupid I don't know where to begin. Fireable. And by not offering now and slow playing we will have to work harder to tell him but yeah we've always loved you son and convince him to come. Because he hasn't camped yet? Again fireable.
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03-12-2017, 11:27 AM
#108

Originally Posted by
I seen it dawg
Mean OL. Great genetics. Room to grow. Legacy. Good film. Loves State. Yeah let's not take him and see if he can be another Day or Beckwith....so profoundly ****ing stupid I don't know where to begin. Fireable. And by not offering now and slow playing we will have to work harder to tell him but yeah we've always loved you son and convince him to come. Because he hasn't camped yet? Again fireable.
We might as well accept the fact that Mullen is not going to fire Hevesy no matter how poorly he recruits or coaches. We should reconcile ourselves we will never get to the SEC Championship game as long as Mullen is here, buy your tickets, and be glad to settle for a mediocre bowl game. Face it.
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03-12-2017, 11:35 AM
#109
Junior Member

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Sec games only last 3 years going from '16 to '14...
Rushing: 5th, 12th, 3rd
Yards per rush: 3rd, 11th, 3rd
Sacks allowed: 3rd, 13th, 5th
TFL allowed: 3rd, 7th, 5th
Pts per game: 4th, 6th, 5th
Now is '16 the anomaly or is it '15?
Vs the top 3 in the SEC West 2015:
LSU- 26 carries/43 yards
Alabama- 42 carries/89 yards
Ole Miss- 34/148 yards
vs Top 3 in the SEC West- 2016:
LSU- 32 carries/56 yards
Auburn- 33 carries/103 yards
Alabama- 35 carries/94 yards
Those are the numbers we put up vs the top of the SEC West year in and year out(2014 was the outlier and we all know this). It's why we never are any kind of legit threat to push for the West title. Its also why we wont be until we recruit better on the OL
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03-12-2017, 12:49 PM
#110
Banned
We obviously cannot recruit offensive linemen. We will max out at 9/10 level until we correct this. I am not attempting to denigrate Mullen because he does many things well. I am simply pointing out the barrier to elite success.
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03-12-2017, 01:08 PM
#111

Originally Posted by
NCDawg
We might as well accept the fact that Mullen is not going to fire Hevesy no matter how poorly he recruits or coaches. We should reconcile ourselves we will never get to the SEC Championship game as long as Mullen is here, buy your tickets, and be glad to settle for a mediocre bowl game. Face it.
That's bullshit. It's past time for our cigar boys and AD to step up and address this.
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03-12-2017, 01:18 PM
#112
Banned

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
That's bullshit. It's past time for our cigar boys and AD to step up and address this.
You can't do that and keep program harmony. Your idea is the one that is bullshit. Cigar boys should be talking to Cohen and no one else.
I do agree with the premise regarding the coach, however. There is just not much that can be done about it if Mullen does not want to do it.
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03-12-2017, 01:55 PM
#113
We make it so tough on ourselves. When our offense get obliterated by LSU this year, it's gonna get real hot for Hev. That's gonna be ****ing ugly.
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03-12-2017, 02:16 PM
#114
Banned

Originally Posted by
Bothrops
We make it so tough on ourselves. When our offense get obliterated by LSU this year, it's gonna get real hot for Hev. That's gonna be ****ing ugly.
We won the Egg Bowl. Time to get fat, happy and cocky again. #Mullening
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03-12-2017, 02:49 PM
#115

Originally Posted by
Random Poster
Vs the top 3 in the SEC West 2015:
LSU- 26 carries/43 yards
Alabama- 42 carries/89 yards
Ole Miss- 34/148 yards
vs Top 3 in the SEC West- 2016:
LSU- 32 carries/56 yards
Auburn- 33 carries/103 yards
Alabama- 35 carries/94 yards
Those are the numbers we put up vs the top of the SEC West year in and year out(2014 was the outlier and we all know this). It's why we never are any kind of legit threat to push for the West title. Its also why we wont be until we recruit better on the OL
Random, With MSTATE7 is always someone else's fault and not the Oline. Don't bother him with valid statistics. I have often thought he is Hevesy.
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03-12-2017, 03:02 PM
#116

Originally Posted by
1bigdawg
Random, With MSTATE7 is always someone else's fault and not the Oline. Don't bother him with valid statistics. I have often thought he is Hevesy.
Lol... I think the oline should take a lot of the blame, not 100% though which is what this board does
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03-12-2017, 03:22 PM
#117
Not only OL, but most all positions. Like what Coach Gonzales told me a few years ago. They have to attend our camps to be offered with a few exections.
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03-12-2017, 03:34 PM
#118
Banned

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Lol... I think the oline should take a lot of the blame, not 100% though which is what this board does
It was the weak link in 2014 and 2015. It seems that it will be the weak link once again in 2017 and 2018 (years in which we have the overall talent to compete).
The offensive line to Mullen is like quarterback to Sherrill.
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03-12-2017, 03:38 PM
#119
Sure we have had issues at other positions but we've also made coaching changes at those positions. Hev's group is a constant crap stain. And he's still getting paid.
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03-12-2017, 03:41 PM
#120

Originally Posted by
BayouDawg
Sure we have had issues at other positions but we've also made coaching changes at those positions. Hev's group is a constant crap stain. And he's still getting paid.
Your issue is with Mullen then, not hev. If you have to make a coach fire an assistant, you might as well fire the HC.
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