Moment of truth for those that want Hud - Do you want him bad enough to lose Egg Bowl

[HancockCountyDog]

Because that is the only way it will happen.

There is just no way Strick fires Mullen if he beats the bears, even at 5-7. Just no way.

The only way he fires him is if he goes 5-7 with a blowout loss to the bears.

Do you really want Hud that bad to sit through a 2008 or 2012 level beat down to bucky and watch the bears get to probably 8 wins and a decent bowl?

Are you that committed to Hud, because that is what it would take. Im not there, and I like Hud a lot, but I can't stomach a loss to those shitbirds in our house.

[HereComesTheSpiral]

Do we want to lose the Egg Bowl? **** no.
Do we see us losing the Egg Bowl? Yes

[darkhorse]

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[Political Hack]

MSU > any coach. Period.

So, no. Never.

[HancockCountyDog]

Do we want to lose the Egg Bowl? **** no.
Do we see us losing the Egg Bowl? Yes

Yeah but if losing the EB guaranteed you Hud - would you actually be able to be pissed off if we lost. Would you actually be able to be happy that Team Lacoste beat our brains in?

This is not easy to do. Even when I hated Stans I couldn't root against the team because I wanted him fired. I just couldn't do it.

This is the situation Im asking, because if you want MSU to win, then you don't want Hud to be hired this year. Or at least you don't want him that bad.

[FISHDAWG]

news flash: he could lose out and he will still be here next year

[bluelightstar]

news flash: he could lose out and he will still be here next year

We deserve what we get for keeping a 3-9 football coach.

[HoopsDawg]

Yeah but if losing the EB guaranteed you Hud - would you actually be able to be pissed off if we lost. Would you actually be able to be happy that Team Lacoste beat our brains in?

This is not easy to do. Even when I hated Stans I couldn't root against the team because I wanted him fired. I just couldn't do it.

This is the situation Im asking, because if you want MSU to win, then you don't want Hud to be hired this year. Or at least you don't want him that bad.

I think what everyone really wants is for Mullen to win 4 of our last 6 games and get some positive momentum rolling. 2014 is a perfect schedule for us and we only lose 1 key player. But if he doesn't, make a change. No need to throw around silly hypotheticals.

[HoopsDawg]

news flash: he could lose out and he will still be here next year

I don't think so. Not the way he recruits.

[HancockCountyDog]

MSU > any coach. Period.

So, no. Never.

I understand the thinking, but think about a team like Bama - getting their shit pushed in by AU for all those years - if Shula beats Tubby in 06, he keeps his job potentially.

Its kind of like tanking for Lebron or Luck. Sure its messy, but at the end of the day its what is necessary for the betterment of MSU.

Im personally not there yet, because I think CDM can still win at least 3 games this year.

[HancockCountyDog]

news flash: he could lose out and he will still be here next year

Totally disagree. If he loses out, he is done. Its not even a question in my mind.

[FISHDAWG]

Totally disagree. If he loses out, he is done. Its not even a question in my mind.

I get the feeling it's not a question in Stricklands mind either ... this would cause too much controversy, firing him after a 3 bowl run in 6 years and winning 4 of the last 6 egg bowls .... like it or not - administrators think differently than we do

[ckDOG]

Hellllllllllllll no. Beat them.

[HoopsDawg]

I get the feeling it's not a question in Stricklands mind either ... this would cause too much controversy, firing him after a 3 bowl run in 6 years and winning 4 of the last 6 egg bowls .... like it or not - administrators think differently than we do

You know his name is Stricklin right?

[Dawgface]

No.

[FISHDAWG]

thanks ... not that there's anything wrong with that

[Ghost of Hank Flick]

I get the feeling it's not a question in Stricklands mind either ... this would cause too much controversy, firing him after a 3 bowl run in 6 years and winning 4 of the last 6 egg bowls .... like it or not - administrators think differently than we do

Firing Stans was a pretty big controversy too. He fired the all-time winningest coach in our history, in a year in which he won 20+ games. I don't really understand this sentiment that Stricklin will not fire Mullen if he goes 3-9 or 4-8. He would be the laughing stock of the SEC if he allowed that to happen. We wouldn't just be viewed as losers, we would be losers.

Edit to add: Mullen has been the coach for 5 years, and has won 3 Egg Bowls.

[starkvegasdawg]

I never want us to lose that game. I don't care what is or is not on the line. I don't care if losing that game meant that we would reincarnate Vince Lombardi to come back and be the coach. Like Hack said, MSU>fill in the blank coach. I would want us to win the Egg Bowl even if it somehow meant we would be forced to hire Croom and McCorvey back.

[engie]

Only way I'm in favor of keeping Mullen over Hudspeth is for him to go 7-5, while winning the Egg, and picking up steam in recruiting. All 3. This basically requires him to "overperform" and prove something for the first time since 2010 -- instead of just doing barely enough to get by and slowly killing the momentum the program has built in the process.

He's to the point now where he HAS to prove something -- or he'll be coaching in front of a freshly expanded, empty stadium next year. The Mullen bandwagon is getting really light. He's got to do something to turn momentum -- or he's going to lose everything we've gained under him.

[FISHDAWG]

Firing Stans was a pretty big controversy too. He fired the all-time winningest coach in our history, in a year in which he won 20+ games. I don't really understand this sentiment that Stricklin will not fire Mullen if he goes 3-9 or 4-8. He would be the laughing stock of the SEC if he allowed that to happen. We wouldn't just be viewed as losers, we would be losers.

Edit to add: Mullen has been the coach for 5 years, and has won 3 Egg Bowls.

OK - lets approach this from a standpoint of mathematics ... if he gets fired at seasons end how will we pay him off and still be able to pay another coach a substantial salary as he will still have a full 3 years remaining on contract ? ...... eggbowl average would still be .600 and bowl appearances are still @ .600 ..... OOC wins are in his favor ... stadium sellouts are in his favor ... he still recruits better than a lot of previous coaches .... how would STRICKLIN explain his actions of firing him ? ..... he will be given the proverbial "next year" to right the ship ..... if after that and he still needs to go then the school only has 2 years to pay

ETA - thanks for correcting my brain fart ... that would make him 3 of 5 on eggbowls and 3 of 5 for bowl eligibility