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    Also, Howland not getting some balance in the roster by going after a JUCO player or transfer definitely hurt us this year. We could have been a landing spot for a big (especially) or a point guard just to transition us to next year. This wholesale sign seven freshmen definitely screwed any potential we had of a great run this year. Should help us in the long run but we still will need to balance this roster out in the coming years and classes.

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    So let me get this straight. The officials called us for 27 fouls and called South Carolina for 15. South Carolina who averages 25 fouls a game (AVERAGES) and you Random were saying this isn't on the refs? That was their second lowest total of fouls on the season, the season. They are ranked second in the SEC for number of fouls called against and the number 1 team is Tennessee. They did this as the away team. Those refs literally gave South Carolina the game tonight even with our turnovers and defense. Our defense btw can be attributed to foul trouble in the post. Yes, the SEC does protect the tourney teams. Had we beaten South Carolina we might have knocked them out of the NCAA tournament due to our RPI or at least damaged them quite a bit. If I'm Howland, I turn this shit over to the SEC office. This is getting rediculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
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    Wow! Good one. Nothing else needs to be said

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    Its fun to get back from the game and read the thread of the game. I won't say anymore about that.

    In the post game show, Richard asked Howland about the officiating of the game, He said good question, but let me ask you since you were a coach, what did you think of it? Richard told him. Yada yada yada.

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    Its not rocket surgery

    The team that stands around pumping 3's all night is not going to get as many foul called. Happened to Auburn- happened to us

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    He will be fine. He is not struggling because of the wrist, that's crazy.
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    Q has no intentions of having surgery.

    It doesnt affect his shot or his footwork- its on his offhand.
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    If his wrist is the problem, have the surgery
    It can not be anymore obvious besides his actual hand falling off that Q's problem is his TORN LIGAMENT in his left wrist. He has become hesitant to do much of anything with his left hand because of it. It is now subconscious for him. He ain't sticking that left hand in for steals, he isn't putting it up to get blocks and he's not catching or dribbling very much with it because it hurts like a mofo when he does. He also isn't doing much blocking out or defending at all because all of that requires risking getting shots of severe pain. He is playing at 60% right now. I believe pre-injury Q is a multiyear NBA talent. I believe current Q is not even a Euro league talent. What choice is here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    It can not be anymore obvious besides his actual hand falling off that Q's problem is his TORN LIGAMENT in his left wrist. He has become hesitant to do much of anything with his left hand because of it. It is now subconscious for him. He ain't sticking that left hand in for steals, he isn't putting it up to get blocks and he's not catching or dribbling very much with it because it hurts like a mofo when he does. He also isn't doing much blocking out or defending at all because all of that requires risking getting shots of severe pain. He is playing at 60% right now. I believe pre-injury Q is a multiyear NBA talent. I believe current Q is not even a Euro league talent. What choice is here?
    You think it's the wrist because you know about the wrist. If it was reported his wrist isn't causing him pain anymore but he was struggling in his classes, you would say, 'Get him a tutor, it's obvious he's preoccupied with his school issues.'

    We're his wrist issue never reported, you would pick something else and put 100% of his struggles on that. In reality, he's just a sophomore having to adjust.

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    It doesn't matter if Little spoon starts or not, which we won't, he will get his minutes.
    And he will play the 2 some just like IJ and Peters do when they are both on the floor at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    You think it's the wrist because you know about the wrist. If it was reported his wrist isn't causing him pain anymore but he was struggling in his classes, you would say, 'Get him a tutor, it's obvious he's preoccupied with his school issues.'

    We're his wrist issue never reported, you would pick something else and put 100% of his struggles on that. In reality, he's just a sophomore having to adjust.
    Bruh you went off the reservation here. I would still know about the wrist even if it was reported it isn't an issue cause I watched him tear it and sit out the next game and I have been watching how's he's played with it since. Do you not remember two games after he returned his reaction to sticking his hand in to poke a ball out and the subsequent five minutes were he couldn't keep his eyes open he was in so much pain. The body doesn't forget pain like that and will subconsciously keep you from receiving it again. He is playing hesitant and protective because his mind and body is making him play hesitant and protective. He can not overcome or stop that instinctive protection until his body knows it's 100% again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    Bruh you went off the reservation here. I would still know about the wrist even if it was reported it isn't an issue cause I watched him tear it and sit out the next game and I have been watching how's he's played with it since. Do you not remember two games after he returned his reaction to sticking his hand in to poke a ball out and the subsequent five minutes were he couldn't keep his eyes open he was in so much pain. The body doesn't forget pain like that and will subconsciously keep you from receiving it again. He is playing hesitant and protective because his mind and body is making him play hesitant and protective. He can not overcome or stop that instinctive protection until his body knows it's 100% again.
    I don't know why I'm bothering because it's pretty clear the possibility of being wrong doesn't exist in your mind when you latch onto a talking point like this, no matter how absurd, but just so we're clear on the two possibilities at the root of Q's struggles here...

    1. A message board poster has correctly concluded over numerous coaches and medical professionals that Q's injury is too much of a detriment to his current and future playing career to continue playing without very risky surgery, despite having an almost infinitely small fraction of the knowledge, experience, and available information of these people,

    or

    OR

    or...

    2. Q is a second year player thrust into a weighty leadership role in more ways than one after little preparation under minimal expectations last year, and still learning along with the rest of this young team.

    I already know what the answer is going to be, but does the former honestly sound more plausible than the latter? No one else sees these "obvious signs" that Q's injury is severely limiting him. Not coaches, not commentators, not analysts, not other fans. You're completely alone in that belief and the idea that risky, uncertain surgery is the correct action for both his immediate and future professional career. Try to let that sink in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thf24 View Post
    I don't know why I'm bothering because it's pretty clear the possibility of being wrong doesn't exist in your mind when you latch onto a talking point like this, no matter how absurd, but just so we're clear on the two possibilities at the root of Q's struggles here...

    1. A message board poster has correctly concluded over numerous coaches and medical professionals that Q's injury is too much of a detriment to his current and future playing career to continue playing without very risky surgery, despite having an almost infinitely small fraction of the knowledge, experience, and available information of these people,

    or

    OR

    or...

    2. Q is a second year player thrust into a weighty leadership role in more ways than one after little preparation under minimal expectations last year, and still learning along with the rest of this young team.

    I already know what the answer is going to be, but does the former honestly sound more plausible than the latter? No one else sees these "obvious signs" that Q's injury is severely limiting him. Not coaches, not commentators, not analysts, not other fans. You're completely alone in that belief and the idea that risky, uncertain surgery is the correct action for both his immediate and future professional career. Try to let that sink in.
    Each day that goes by is one day less for Q to become 100% again. He'll never be 100% again till he has the surgery. The reason I am so vocal about it now is because I believe everyone else including Q is going to come to an agreement sometime in the future that surgery is the right action. Therefore if I believe everyone else will finally see this then now is the the time to be loud about it. Not after valuable time has already passed. "I told you so" doesn't sit well with me when we are talking about Q's professional basketball career or very real possibility of a lack of one.

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    Not saying surgery is the answer, but saying the wrist isn't affecting his play is stupid. How are you supposed to even work out or grip anything with it? Did you guys even watch the couple of games before his injury? Night and day with how strong and crisp he looked

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Poster View Post
    Its not rocket surgery

    The team that stands around pumping 3's all night is not going to get as many foul called. Happened to Auburn- happened to us
    What about the climbing over the back and hand checking that South Carolina was doing that wasn't called? That team played more with their hands and fouled off the ball more then any team I have ever seen. Silva is a walking fouling machine who should of fouled out in the first half.

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