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    Montana is now the #2 GOAT

    Tom Brady will always be #2

    The greatest doesnt get the **** beat out of him in the SB

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    This all day!!
    Romans 5:8

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    It ain't over yet but either way ... of all the great players in NFL history ... my first pick in that draft would be Joe.

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    I don't know... This is Brady's 17th year and he's in a super bowl. Montana didn't play but 16 and he's wasn't near as good his last 2 years at KC. Another thing is NE can put different receivers around Brady, but doesn't matter... Brady keeps rolling

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    Top 5 for me

    1. Joe Montana
    2. Tom Brady
    3. Terry Bradshaw
    4. Johnny U/ Peyton Manning
    5. Steve Young

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I don't know... This is Brady's 17th year and he's in a super bowl. Montana didn't play but 16 and he's wasn't near as good his last 2 years at KC
    Montana carried those teams farther than they should have gone. If the 49'ers dont have a HOF back-up QB in Steve Young- Montana never leaves SF and wins his 5th SB in 1993 or 1994. He kinda got screwed over because the 49'er organization was so good back then.

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    Brady's rating this year is 112.2. Montana topped that one time in '89.

    Career rating...
    Montana -- 92.3
    Brady -- 97.2

    Montana had perhaps the best wr ever almost all his career

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I don't know... This is Brady's 17th year and he's in a super bowl. Montana didn't play but 16 and he's wasn't near as good his last 2 years at KC. Another thing is NE can put different receivers around Brady, but doesn't matter... Brady keeps rolling
    Joe had Rice & Taylor for only 2 of his 4 Superbowls. Not all 4. Dwight Clark and Freddie Solomon were his receivers for his 1st two SBs. He also was in AFC Title game his last year in KC and was knocked out with a concussion (his 3rd). He retired after that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Brady's rating this year is 112.2. Montana topped that one time in '89.

    Career rating...
    Montana -- 92.3
    Brady -- 97.2

    Montana had perhaps the best wr ever almost all his career
    Had Rice 6 of his 16 years. 85 - 90.

    ETA: I'm not saying Brady ain't great .. he is. I just know if I want a clutch QB ... it's Joe Cool.
    Last edited by dawgday166; 02-05-2017 at 09:29 PM.

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    If super bowl wins are the ultimate determinate of qb greatness, then Eli > Brady, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Poster View Post
    Montana carried those teams farther than they should have gone. If the 49'ers dont have a HOF back-up QB in Steve Young- Montana never leaves SF and wins his 5th SB in 1993 or 1994. He kinda got screwed over because the 49'er organization was so good back then.
    Without a doubt IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Montana had perhaps the best wr ever almost all his career
    Freddie Soloman? Jerry Rice was on only 2 Montana SB teams

    Montana's 1st 2 SB's were won with Wendell Tyler and Freddie Soloman

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    Times are different with free agents, Montana, having the greatest wide receiver is a big big reason Montana and Young had also.
    Montana was great but so is Brady, I can't say I would choose one over the other. Coin flip for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Poster View Post
    Freddie Soloman? Jerry Rice was on only 2 Montana SB teams

    Montana's 1st 2 SB's were won with Wendell Tyler and Freddie Soloman
    Dwight Clark at WR. Wendell was RB is 2nd SB, with Roger Craig as FB. Earl Cooper and Bill Ring were RBs in 1st SB.

    ETA: No HOFs in that group either.
    Last edited by dawgday166; 02-05-2017 at 09:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Poster View Post
    Tom Brady will always be #2

    The greatest doesnt get the **** beat out of him in the SB
    Looks like you jumped the gun like me yesterday with basketball

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    Don't count Brady out ... and I wasn't when this thread started. He pretty damn good too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    If super bowl wins are the ultimate determinate of qb greatness, then Eli > Brady, no?
    Last time I check 4 was greater than 2

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    Remember Montana vs Cincinnati from about this field position? Let's see if Brady can do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by HereComesTheSpiral View Post
    Last time I check 4 was greater than 2
    Eli 2-0 vs Brady in Super Bowls. Fwiw, I don't think Eli even close to Brady

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Remember Montana vs Cincinnati from about this field position? Let's see if Brady can do it
    And 0:05 difference in amount of time. 1 yd difference in field position.

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