Thoughts moving forward...

[CadaverDawg]

If Dan only wins 3-5 games, and we play like we did last season in those losses, then yes I would be on board for firing him. However, if we win 5 games with losses coming on hail marries or bad calls in close 4th quarter games, then no, I wouldn't be in favor of it.

The point is that we still have half our season to play, and we have shown FLASHES of being a pretty good team. This thing could go either way. I can see how we could win every game from here on out, except Bama, and I can see how we could lose most games from here on out.

Therefore, since the results are HIGHLY inconclusive at the point, I choose to try and support our team, in hopes that we play consistently and for 60 minutes like we have FLASHED the ability to do.

We all support the team. And I agree that it could go either way. Hopefully we start seeing more consistency and effort for 4 quarters.

[ShotgunDawg]

We all support the team. And I agree that it could go either way. Hopefully we start seeing more consistency and effort for 4 quarters.

agree

[RougeDawg]

Most of you are missing the forest for the trees.

The main issue most of us have is the way we play. The way our players and coaches look like they don't give a ****. The way they are going through the motions more times than not. As we saw yesterday, the team with less talent can win if they play with intensity. I'd say we have as much talent as those teams that won yesterday. That is what is frustrating for us. I could give two shits who beats who, but when you continually see our coach do less with more, something has to change. Either Dan turn it around, or Strick turn it around for him. Problem is, I don't think Strick has the balls to tell Dan what to do.

[CadaverDawg]

Most of you are missing the forest for the trees.

The main issue most of us have is the way we play. The way our players and coaches look like they don't give a ****. The way they are going through the motions more times than not. As we saw yesterday, the team with less talent can win if they play with intensity. I'd say we have as much talent as those teams that won yesterday. That is what is frustrating for us. I could give two shits who beats who, but when you continually see our coach do less with more, something has to change. Either Dan turn it around, or Strick turn it around for him. Problem is, I don't think Strick has the balls to tell Dan what to do.

Yep.

[msstate7]

Most of you are missing the forest for the trees.

The main issue most of us have is the way we play. The way our players and coaches look like they don't give a ****. The way they are going through the motions more times than not. As we saw yesterday, the team with less talent can win if they play with intensity. I'd say we have as much talent as those teams that won yesterday. That is what is frustrating for us. I could give two shits who beats who, but when you continually see our coach do less with more, something has to change. Either Dan turn it around, or Strick turn it around for him. Problem is, I don't think Strick has the balls to tell Dan what to do.

Well for the lesser teams to win, they need help. OM and vandy can play hard they can, but if lsu plays well and Georgia's healthy it wouldn't matter. I agree we need to play harder at times, but to say that's why we lose to bama, lsu, etc isn't true. We haven't got a good team on their off day. For whatever reason everyone plays like it's the Super Bowl against us

[sleepy dawg]

I never said anything about a midseason fire. Not sure where you pulled that.

And quit telling me what i meant or what I Should have done. I meant what I said and it wasnt little brother. If you cant read abd comprehend thats not my problem...but i dont need you putting words in mouth or telling me what i need to do. Agree or disagree, and leave it at that.

I don't believe you... I don't think the chances are good this opportunity presents itself, however, if we play good against SC and lose, I still don't think you will back down from your soapbox.

No matter how we lose, you will still be pissed about Dan not getting it done in the end.

[Percho]

I would just like to see Dan for a whole game stomping up and down the sidelines like he did earlier. It is his job to fire up the football team. If he shows he if fired up the fans will also be fired up and the team will be fired up. As in the old days he should address the stadium before the game.

[CadaverDawg]

I don't believe you... I don't think the chances are good this opportunity presents itself, however, if we play good against SC and lose, I still don't think you will back down from your soapbox.

No matter how we lose, you will still be pissed about Dan not getting it done in the end.

Well, then you're wrong. You must not have seen my posts in the past, because I am always the first to admit when I'm wrong or when someone steps up when I thought they wouldn't. Sorry you don't believe that, but hopefully you'll find out.

You can ask anybody on this board, and they may think I say stupid or emotional stuff at times, but I ALWAYS admit if I'm wrong and I am ALWAYS 100% passionate and in support of my Bulldogs.

[CadaverDawg]

Well for the lesser teams to win, they need help. OM and vandy can play hard they can, but if lsu plays well and Georgia's healthy it wouldn't matter. I agree we need to play harder at times, but to say that's why we lose to bama, lsu, etc isn't true. We haven't got a good team on their off day. For whatever reason everyone plays like it's the Super Bowl against us

What about Ole miss missing half of their team to injuries last night? Shouldn't that offset LSU not bringing their A game?

What about Vandy losing their QB before making their 17 point comeback? Shouldn't that offset some of UgA's injuries?

I'm tired of the excuses. Those teams are getting it done, and we aren't. Period. I'm ready for us to get it done, whether it be due to injuries or not.

I see what you're saying, I do...but you can't use one teams injuries as an excuse but not bring up the team that upset them having big time injuries as well, IMO.

[msstate7]

What about Ole miss missing half of their team to injuries last night? Shouldn't that offset LSU not bringing their A game?

What about Vandy losing their QB before making their 17 point comeback? Shouldn't that offset some of UgA's injuries?

I'm tired of the excuses. Those teams are getting it done, and we aren't. Period. I'm ready for us to get it done, whether it be due to injuries or not.

I see what you're saying, I do...but you can't use one teams injuries as an excuse but not bring up the team that upset them having big time injuries as well, IMO.

Vandy qb = gurley, Marshall, and those wr's?

OM definitely has injury issues which looking back on it probably helped them. Lsu players looking at injury report decided to half step on the 4th straight tough game and it cost them. I'm not trying to discount OM's very nice win; but if lsu brings their a game, lsu wins no matter what OM does.

I still think the stars will align this year for us to upset a better team.

[CadaverDawg]

Vandy qb = gurley, Marshall, and those WR's?

I still think the stars will align this year for us to upset a better team.

To answer your first question...yes, pretty much. Georgia has better players than Vandy at every position, and it isnt even close. Georgia was up by 14 late. They were beating Vandy the whole game without Gurley and Marshall and the WR's, and should have won without them. Vandy out coached and out hustled Georgia in the 4th to win. We never even show up in the 4th.

As for your second part. I agree. I think we can beat USC, And A&M. We'll see. I hope Dan can turn it around. We need our current staff to turn it around and get to a bowl game.

[MarketingBully01]

He did against Bowling Green and was pissed off at the coaches. He showed a lot of fire in that game for the most part. That is one reason I am thinking we will finish 4-2 down the stretch. I think we will get most of our issues fixed. The biggest thing I am worried about though is place kicking. In order for us to pull off an upset you guys are clamoring about we need a solid kicking game. I am not sure Bell can get it done.

[MarketingBully01]

Vandy's QB that was injured is one of the worst in the conference so by him being injured probably made them better. LSU was not injured and had no major injuries. That loss is on the mad hatter. There is no way LSU should have lost last night. You are right though. Ole Miss has a heck of a lot of injuries that IMO will have a huge impact on the rest of their season as well.

[Todd4State]

Most of you are missing the forest for the trees.

The main issue most of us have is the way we play. The way our players and coaches look like they don't give a ****. The way they are going through the motions more times than not. As we saw yesterday, the team with less talent can win if they play with intensity. I'd say we have as much talent as those teams that won yesterday. That is what is frustrating for us. I could give two shits who beats who, but when you continually see our coach do less with more, something has to change. Either Dan turn it around, or Strick turn it around for him. Problem is, I don't think Strick has the balls to tell Dan what to do.

I feel the same way you do about our coaching staff and our team. I don't ask to win every game. I do expect our coaches to care and our players to play hard regardless. If we do that, everything else will take care of itself.

I do think that Stricklin would fire Dan if he has to. As far as telling Dan what to do- I feel like it shouldn't be neccessary to tell a coach what to do when it comes to effort issues. If someone has to tell them, it's probably best to cut bait.

[ShotgunDawg]

I feel the same way you do about our coaching staff and our team. I don't ask to win every game. I do expect our coaches to care and our players to play hard regardless. If we do that, everything else will take care of itself.

I do think that Stricklin would fire Dan if he has to. As far as telling Dan what to do- I feel like it shouldn't be neccessary to tell a coach what to do when it comes to effort issues. If someone has to tell them, it's probably best to cut bait.

Todd,

I completely agree with what you have said in the this post. However, the problem is that every says, "I just want us to compete and play with relentless effort" and when we lose a game, everyone automatically blames the loss on a lack of effort.

By my estimation, effort has only been a problem in one of our games this season, and thats Bowling Green

Against OK State, we had a horrible passive game plan that lacked aggressiveness and thus made our effort look bad, when in fact, it was not.

Against Auburn, our effort was fine, but we had a freshman QB making his first start in the SEC on the road.

Against LSU, We played our asses off till Bell broke our momentum. If you want to claim that the 4th quarter against LSU lacked effort and energy, then I'm OK and can't argue, but for most of the game we played with excellent effort.

We don't lose every game because of a lack of effort, but thats seems to what everyone believe is the problem every time.

[CadaverDawg]

Todd,

I completely agree with what you have said in the this post. However, the problem is that every says, "I just want us to compete and play with relentless effort" and when we lose a game, everyone automatically blames the loss on a lack of effort.

By my estimation, effort has only been a problem in one of our games this season, and thats Bowling Green

Against OK State, we had a horrible passive game plan that lacked aggressiveness and thus made our effort look bad, when in fact, it was not.

Against Auburn, our effort was fine, but we had a freshman QB making his first start in the SEC on the road.

Against LSU, We played our asses off till Bell broke our momentum. If you want to claim that the 4th quarter against LSU lacked effort and energy, then I'm OK and can't argue, but for most of the game we played with excellent effort.

We don't lose every game because of a lack of effort, but thats seems to what everyone believe is the problem every time.

Our team and coaching staff has failed to show up in the 4th quarter this year (except Alcorn and Troy). I think that is what everyone is referring to. Mullen quit against Auburn, and the team quit against LSU. We are 0-2 in the SEC. We also showed a lack of effort against BG.

[Dawg61]

My biggest problem with all of this is that everyone feels safe to say "fire Dan" because they just automatically assume that the next coach is Mark Hudspeth. But what if he doesn't take the job? Consider this when you are so quick to pull the trigger. Coaching searches are never guarantees. Something unexpected could happen that takes Hud out of the mix. Now you are totally ****ed.

[Op4isabitch]

I am now expecting us to beat One of the following:

South Carolina
A&M
Alabama

And I am demanding we win the following:

Kentucky
Arkansas
Ole miss

Anything below 4 more wins and I want a coaching change.

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[preachermatt83]

very good post cadaver!

[BulldogBear]

My biggest problem with all of this is that everyone feels safe to say "fire Dan" because they just automatically assume that the next coach is Mark Hudspeth. But what if he doesn't take the job? Consider this when you are so quick to pull the trigger. Coaching searches are never guarantees. Something unexpected could happen that takes Hud out of the mix. Now you are totally ****ed.

You also don't wanna pull a Cutcliffe-like firing as the Rebels did and get stuck with an Eddie O. It sends the wrong message to job candidates when your coach turns your program around and takes (although currently plateaued perhaps) it to another level from the dumpster fire it was and still gets fired because they come in just under .500 after three straight bowls and struggling to beat AP top 10 SEC programs. I'm as frustrated as anyone but I don't want to send that message. "Come to State! Lose to Bama a couple of times. Go F*ck yourself!" ...I don't want that job if I'm a coach