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01-04-2017, 07:06 PM
#101

Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
I find it interesting how people correlate yelling & being pissed off with successful coaching.
Agreed. I was never someone that wanted to disappoint a coach, but yelling at me didn't do anything but tighten me up. Talk to me like a person if I did something wrong and let's correct it and I'd do my damnedest to get it right next time, don't just yell at me, cause that shit ain't gonna work.
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01-04-2017, 07:07 PM
#102

Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Not good. Not in the South with a bunch of AAU kids that don't want any coaching already and haven't gotten any their entire lives.
Ah, so you're switching up the argument now, I see.
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01-04-2017, 07:07 PM
#103

Originally Posted by
HoopsCoach21
John Wooden hardly got up from the bench when he coached. He must've really sucked**
Look I'm not in the league with any of the coaches mentioned in this discussion but one thing I do feel I've learned is that you have to be genuine and coach with what fits your own personality. John Wooden felt like if he had to yell and scream to get his players to perform in games then he didn't do his job coaching them in practice. Then there are guys like Bob Knight who I'm sure we are all aware of his coaching antics.
There are many different approaches to dealing with players and they can vary as much as offensive and defensive philosophy. Howland has his own style and has proven it works just fine in the past and I have a feeling he will prove it once again in time.
How many technical fouls a coach gets has never been brought up when I've discussed how good of a job a coach was doing in coaching circles.
Great post. This guy gets it.
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01-04-2017, 07:17 PM
#104

Originally Posted by
smootness
Ah, so you're switching up the argument now, I see.
Not one bit. Howland needs to get on the players and refs a whole bunch more than he seems to be willing to do.
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01-04-2017, 08:28 PM
#105
We gave up 20+ points not getting back, got severely outrebounded and gave up a bunch of points in the paint and on top of that have a coach unwilling to get on his players or the refs. Then y'all call me a troll for pointing it out. No wonder we suck. Everyone of you losers willing to put up with it deserve a shitty program and a shitty Hump. Congrats losers
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01-04-2017, 08:42 PM
#106
Not sure how getting on the refs has too much to do with anything. I kinda figure a little patience with a proven commodity (Howland) is necessary here. He's only in his 2nd year and what he inherited wasn't a top notch program.
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01-04-2017, 08:47 PM
#107

Originally Posted by
dawgday166
Not sure how getting on the refs has too much to do with anything. I kinda figure a little patience with a proven commodity (Howland) is necessary here. He's only in his 2nd year and what he inherited wasn't a top notch program.
Why do we ask/want Mullen to show some intensity and "want to"? Answer is similar here.
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01-04-2017, 08:54 PM
#108

Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Why do we ask/want Mullen to show some intensity and "want to"? Answer is similar here.
I don't necessarily think that translates into W's or L's with Dan either. Why a lot of other folks think so .. I'm not sure. In '14 I don't recall Dan raising hell too much when we went on the run to beat 3 top tens in a row. Now he may have raised hell in the offseason to get them to work, but I don't recall seeing it before, during, or after games.
Differences between Dan and Ben 1) Howland has been a HC before he got here and took 2 teams to Sweet 16 and 1 of those to 3 straight final 4's. 2) Ben's only been here 2 years. I tend to believe every coach should have at least 3 and mostly 4 years to get their program established.
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01-04-2017, 09:06 PM
#109

Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Not one bit. Howland needs to get on the players and refs a whole bunch more than he seems to be willing to do.
You were arguing that he's changed from the guy he was when he was successful. He hasn't at all.
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01-04-2017, 09:09 PM
#110

Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Why do we ask/want Mullen to show some intensity and "want to"? Answer is similar here.
It's a similarly bad argument in football.
Did you ever once see Sherrill react in any way, shape, or form? No.
The whole 'our coach needs to get ticked!' response is a typical illogical argument fans make when they aren't winning. Because it's all we can really see. But it doesn't mean a thing.
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01-04-2017, 09:12 PM
#111
Coach Cal went 38-2 with a Natty his third year at UK and came back the next year With an NIT invite. I guess he didn't throw his jacket , get enough T's or rip those players ass enough that year.
Some kids u can Ride hard some you can't. Some coaches rip ass as a teaching moment, some just teach. Some coaches ride Officlas ass every game some not as much as others. Coach Howland has earned The respect of the officials in the Confernece and around the country with his resume. And with kids with his ability to get players to the league
They know who the **** he is and what he can do..
So Enough of this stupid ****ing bullshit of a thread .
Last edited by Ari Gold; 01-04-2017 at 09:17 PM.
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01-04-2017, 09:13 PM
#112

Originally Posted by
smootness
It's a similarly bad argument in football.
Did you ever once see Sherrill react in any way, shape, or form? No.
The whole 'our coach needs to get ticked!' response is a typical illogical argument fans make when they aren't winning. Because it's all we can really see. But it doesn't mean a thing.
They also see Saban do it. He's one of the few I've ever seen get away with it as much as he does it. Everyone gets pissed here and there ... Saban stays pissed tho. You don't see the root of his coaching tree (Belichick) get pissed too often (if ever).
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01-04-2017, 09:20 PM
#113

Originally Posted by
Ari Gold
Coach Cal went 38-2 with a Natty his third year at UK and came back the next year With an NIT invite. I guess he didn't throw his jacket , get enough T's or rip those players ass enough that year.
Some kids u can Ride hard some you can't. Some coaches rip ass as a teaching moment, some just teach. Some coaches ride Officlas ass every game some not as much as others. Coach Howland has earned The respect of the officials in the Confernece and around the country with his resume. And with kids with his ability to get players to the league
They know who the **** he is and what he can do..
So Enough of this stupid ****ing bullshit of a thread .
Bruh when you give up 20+ points cause everyone on your team is lazy getting back ya better rip somebody's ass.
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01-05-2017, 11:37 AM
#114

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Howland doesn't get on players in-game like at ucla. I don't know if that anything to do with our performance, but it's true
He has high blood pressure
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