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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    omfg how many more times y'all gonna say this? We recruit like Auburn yet we coach like Mississippi University for Women. You like that better? The Kentucky part I want us to copy is the head coach getting on his players and FORCING them to become better. They all sign up for that and they all love it. Calipari has made many millions for many players many times over by doing and being that type of coach. Not by being a coach that has zero technicals in two years. Howland isn't coaching like the guy we all thought we were getting right now. He is being too reserved and too nice. We don't need or want the most likable head coach ever.
    It bothers you that folks disagree with an absurd comment you made? Go figure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    My mother-in-law could coach that team.
    She's probably not afraid to get in their faces when they are being lazy stupid freshman either so Howland could learn something from her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Ugh, UK has 3 of the projected Top 14 draft picks in the upcoming NBA draft. My mother-in-law could coach that team.
    Yep. Calipari is one of the biggest underachieving coaches in college basketball history. He has a legitimate NBA roster every year. Should easily have 5+ titles at this point. Just a terrible example all the way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tireddawg View Post
    It bothers you that folks disagree with an absurd comment you made? Go figure...
    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Ugh, UK has 3 of the projected Top 14 draft picks in the upcoming NBA draft. My mother-in-law could coach that team.
    Quote Originally Posted by DudyDawg View Post
    Has nothing to do with Cal yelling. A lot of them would be making millions at 18 if they didn't have to go to school for a year. We have 0 players of that quality.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh View Post
    So I ask a question, to which you respond with an insult. Seems about right...

    You started a thread about the fact that the basketball coach isn't ripping the guys a new one, thus he isn't a good fit to run the program. He MUST act like Calipari to be successful and anything less will cause us to lose basketball games. The entire premise of your argument is illogical.

    Also, that is probably why I miss your comments in game threads. I choose not to read game threads as some go WAY past the reservation during games and become way too emotional. I suffer from the same problem, so I choose instead to try and avoid them while the game is being played.
    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    I'll say it as long as people like you think it's true. Because it isn't.

    Calipari is a decent coach, nothing more. I don't care how much his players say they love playing for him, there are multiple ways to approach coaching.

    But I'm not that shocked that your analysis of our basketball team doesn't go much further than 'Our coach needs to yell more'. Howland has never been a drill sergeant, and I'm not sure why people think that's who he is. This is who he's always been as a coach. Heck, some of the criticism from his time at UCLA was that he wasn't tough enough on certain players.
    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    We are absolutely not following the Kentucky model of recruiting. Why do people think this?
    We are YOUNG like KENTUCKY. Calipari gets on his YOUNG players and FORCES them to be the best they can be. Howland isn't doing that at all.

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    The problem is we have one senior who is average to below average at the most improtant position, we have six to seven freshmen who play like freshmen, and we depend on a player who is a true sophomore himself who is still learning quite a bit as he goes. We start three players out of position out of necessity this year. We have players that don't listen to Howland's coaching because they are freshmen and have to experience things before they get it. Kentucky lost to Louisville because they didn't listen to Coach Cal. It happens. It's called youth.

    If you guys don't see the talent on this team, I don't know what to tell you. If you don't think that adding Ado, Brooks, Feazel, and replacing IJ Ready with Nick Weatherspoon with the jumps all of these freshmen will take makes us a tournament team next year, you don't know basketball. The reason mid-majors do well and Villanova won the national championship is because they have veteran junior senior laden teams. We just have to be patient with this team because we are extemely young. Shit, we are the youngest team in the country. When we played our game were patient on offense and got back in transition, we outscored Alabama 17-3 to start both halves. We didn't play with the intensity you need for forty minutes to win the game. That comes with experience which we have very little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    We are YOUNG like KENTUCKY. Calipari gets on his YOUNG players and FORCES them to be the best they can be. Howland isn't doing that at all.
    How many practices have you watched? Been in a lot of film sessions? Huddles? You seem to know a lot about how Howland talks to players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DudyDawg View Post
    How many practices have you watched?
    How many times has Howland gotten on the refs to the point of getting a technical since he showed up? You don't light up the refs for that call. You do it for the next call. Same thing applies to YOUNG players. You don't get in their face for the last play you do it for the next one coming up. Howland is doing neither. He doesn't get on the refs and he doesn't get on his players. Can't win that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    How many times has Howland gotten on the refs to the point of getting a technical since he showed up? You don't light up the refs for that call. You do it for the next call. Same thing applies to YOUNG players. You don't get in their face for the last play you do it for the next one coming up. Howland is doing neither. He doesn't get on the refs and he doesn't get on his players. Can't win that way.
    K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    We are YOUNG like KENTUCKY. Calipari gets on his YOUNG players and FORCES them to be the best they can be. Howland isn't doing that at all.
    Dude, you're the one who said we're following the Kentucky recruiting model. Either back that up, or admit it's not what you meant.

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    Last bit of advice for ya Dawg61
    When your thread has reached page 3 and no one agrees with you yet, it's time to just cut ur loses and pull the rip cord

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Dude, you're the one who said we're following the Kentucky recruiting model. Either back that up, or admit it's not what you meant.
    What team would you like to describe it as when you bring in 8 freshman? That's what I meant not that we brought in 8 McDonald's All-Americans like Kentucky but that we brought in 8 freshman like Kentucky. I called it the Kentucky recruiting model because that's the closest thing to describe what we have done even though Kentucky still brings in 8 NBA players and we don't. Should I call it the Donnie Tyndall Tennessee plan instead? You're nitpicking a detail that isn't the point of the thread to get the wording perfect for something that can't be described perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    Last bit of advice for ya Dawg61
    When your thread has reached page 3 and no one agrees with you yet, it's time to just cut ur loses and pull the rip cord
    7 agreed with me immediately. He sees it too. Thanks for your advice though.

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    I never saw yoda or Obi One get piss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Ugh, UK has 3 of the projected Top 14 draft picks in the upcoming NBA draft. My mother-in-law could coach that team.
    Calipari took umass to the championship game. We've had 2 big time 5*s in Malik and sidney, yet we couldn't get anything out of them. I think you really slight calipari as a coach

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Calipari took umass to the championship game. We've had 2 big time 5*s in Malik and sidney, yet we couldn't get anything out of them. I think you really slight calipari as a coach
    I think you take posts too literally and take stats out of context so we're even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Calipari took umass to the championship game. We've had 2 big time 5*s in Malik and sidney, yet we couldn't get anything out of them. I think you really slight calipari as a coach
    I think Cal is a good coach but he took UMASS to the Final 4 with the best player in the country on his team. He didn't have a bunch of scrubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    I never saw yoda or Obi One get piss.
    And I'd argue they weren't the ones that finally turned him into a Jedi

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Calipari took umass to the championship game. We've had 2 big time 5*s in Malik and sidney, yet we couldn't get anything out of them. I think you really slight calipari as a coach
    Every school he left was being investigated by the NCAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    I think Cal is a good coach but he took UMASS to the Final 4 with the best player in the country on his team. He didn't have a bunch of scrubs.
    He's taken three different schools to the final four. Has anyone else ever done that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    7 agreed with me immediately. He sees it too. Thanks for your advice though.
    Who agreed? And who's he?

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