2017

[Goldendawg]

Yeah, let's run a D just because Bama can. What happened to adapting a D or an O for that matter to the abilities of your players. I will reserve future judgement on the influx of hopefully better talent with the incoming JUCO players in 2017. Simon is (maybe) becoming a DC with on the job training. It is what it is.

[thf24]

Coming up with 3 or 4 good cover corners next year would improve the defense as a whole by leaps and bounds, but it doesn't change the fact that the 2-gap 3-4 is a very difficult, complicated, demanding defense for us at the current point in time. Until I see otherwise, I'm going to continue believing we're voluntarily handicapping ourselves as long as we continue to try to run it.

[Sacrifice]

When I first heard we were going to the 34 I thought we would bring hell from all different angles, It's just not happening.
I have no faith that Sirmon will turn this D around next season. Our players on D are not this bad. They look lost and unmotivated. It looks like there playing to about 50% of there potential.

[IMissJack]

Need a new locker room culture to win more than 6 next year. This program is soft, soft, soft. At very least, hopefully the JUCO guys will come in and create some intense competition and that makes everyone better.

I really don't think we have an identity in our locker room. The OM game and A&M games were the only games where I felt we came out with a fire and played about as well as we could. We are not talented enough, yet, on this team to come out lifeless and expect to win by out talenting anyone. I can't remember the last time we played with an attacking defense. I don't know if we can get that toughness back with these assistants on D.

[Coach007]

Let us know when we have NFL players at every spot on the field and in the two deep.

We don't have Bama's players of course. I doubt a 3 - 4 especially under Sirmon will ever be successful for us. Thanks for your response to my questions. Hope I am proved wrong in 2017. Hail State and have a great 2017.

Do we at any position? Who does have bama's players all across the board? Are you listening to yourself? So abandon a defense because we don't recruit as well as the top program in the nation.

1- We can stick to a 4-3 and struggle vs the spread or we can switch and better handle it. Therefore handling most teams that we will face.
2- We don't know what Sirmon can do because it's the first year this team has played a 3-4 under Mullen. Sirmon doesn't have a year under him in recruiting players he may need.


Bama switched to a 3-4 in 2007. Bama ranked 31st that season. The next season they jumped 3, then 2, and have pretty much stayed in the top from that point. Their 2007 classhad no 5 stars and only 3 4 stars.

Let's look at leading up to that change.

2004, no 5 stars and only 1 4 star signed(WR)
2005, no 5 stars, 1 4 star signed (SDE)
2006, no 5 stars, 1 4 star signed(RB)

Already told you 2007...

2008 1 5 star on defense..CB 9 4star players signed


So let's talk about those players that Bama gets and we don't? The difference wasn't just in coaching, but it was also the switch. Sirmon is working with far better talent than Bama had making the switch.

[IMissJack]

When I first heard we were going to the 34 I thought we would bring hell from all different angles, It's just not happening.
I have no faith that Sirmon will turn this D around next season. Our players on D are not this bad. They look lost and unmotivated. It looks like there playing to about 50% of there potential.

Agree, we play reactive, and slow. We have had plenty of defenses as bad as this one, that played with a lot more attitude...

[Goldendawg]

These assistants remind me of Jackie's last couple of staffs. Probably the best we can get with paying the least in the SEC and Dan's alleged micro-managing. We need to pay what it takes and get a successful, veteran DC and let him do his thing.

[DudyDawg]

Do we at any position? Who does have bama's players all across the board? Are you listening to yourself? So abandon a defense because we don't recruit as well as the top program in the nation.

1- We can stick to a 4-3 and struggle vs the spread or we can switch and better handle it. Therefore handling most teams that we will face.
2- We don't know what Sirmon can do because it's the first year this team has played a 3-4 under Mullen. Sirmon doesn't have a year under him in recruiting players he may need.


Bama switched to a 3-4 in 2007. Bama ranked 31st that season. The next season they jumped 3, then 2, and have pretty much stayed in the top from that point. Their 2007 classhad no 5 stars and only 3 4 stars.

Let's look at leading up to that change.

2004, no 5 stars and only 1 4 star signed(WR)
2005, no 5 stars, 1 4 star signed (SDE)
2006, no 5 stars, 1 4 star signed(RB)

Already told you 2007...

2008 1 5 star on defense..CB 9 4star players signed


So let's talk about those players that Bama gets and we don't? The difference wasn't just in coaching, but it was also the switch. Sirmon is working with far better talent than Bama had making the switch.

Bama didn't just switch the the 3-4 in 07, they got the best coach in football. Again, lemme know when Saban and his classes walk through that door for us. You're trying to compare us, with a first year coordinator, to nick Saban. Get a grip.

[Dawgface]

Peter Sirmon's D may keep us from winning 6. He has got to go. Our defense is an embarrassment. Our O sucked today too, but the D sucked bad all year. Soft soft defense. I hate it.

We have no shot at 8 or more wins without MAJOR improvement on D. I don't think Sirmon can get it done

Agree 100%. Hard to be fired up about next year at this point......unless the Juco's are major upgrades.

[Coach007]

Bama didn't just switch the the 3-4 in 07, they got the best coach in football. Again, lemme know when Saban and his classes walk through that door for us. You're trying to compare us, with a first year coordinator, to nick Saban. Get a grip.

What you just stated is 100% false.

I showed you the talent they had on their team. So the whole "Lemme know when Saban and his classes" doesn't have a single thing to do with 2007 and 2008. We have a better talent pool than they did at the time they switched.

You fail to consider the effects of making that switch while losing that many dbs, the effects to the over all scheme when losing that many.

[dawg27]

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Got to have better corners in order to play better defense. Not good enough to play press defense, have to zone.

We have no pass rush look at just about ever team that has good secondary they all have a good pass rush.

[DudyDawg]

So the whole "Lemme know when Saban and his classes" doesn't have a single thing to do with 2007 and 2008..

They didn't have Saban in 2007 and 2008?

[dawg27]

One think is for sure we have got a long way to go before we are a good team.

[DudyDawg]

One think is for sure we have got a long way to go before we are a good team.

As long as we stick with a guy who's never been a DC, we are only a few years away from being just like Alabama. After all, look what defense they run!

[Jacksondevildog]

We are very confused on defense. You can see the players looking around throwing their hands up like they are not sure. It's been happening all year long. We have also been late getting personnel onto the field and in position out of dead ball situations. That has been happening all year long. That's coaching.

[Coach007]

They didn't have Saban in 2007 and 2008?

You stated "Saban and his Classes"

[CadaverDawg]

Sirmon's defense is really really horrible against the pass, but they make up for it by being atrocious against the run and not tackling worth a shit.

Total defensive dumpster fire. WAY too much talent on that side to be as bad as we were/are. I just don't see how we could totally ruin guys like Richie, Gerri, & Brandon Bryant in one off season like that....seems you'd have to physically injure them to cause such a collapse in play. This 3-4 risk could ruin our defense for years to come...it was a failed experiment & poor decision imo. Time for Mullen to just admit that, part ways, and move on. Never dreamed I would be begging for a Geoff Collins or Diaz D this much so soon. We don't do a single thing well on D....don't press, don't cover, don't prevent the long catches, don't smother the short throws, don't cover tight ends, don't pressure the QB, don't stop the run, don't tackle well at all, don't make adjustments....NOTHING. I wish I could get paid $600K to do poorly in every phase of my job.

[Coach007]

As long as we stick with a guy who's never been a DC, we are only a few years away from being just like Alabama. After all, look what defense they run!

Since we are talking about Bama and people who have never been a DC before, did you know that Saban hired a guy who had never been a DC before in 2007? But what does that have to do with anything right?

[DudyDawg]

You stated "Saban and his Classes"

I agree that losing DBs to injury hurt us- it would any team regardless of scheme. But you're defending sirmon by saying bama is the best defense in the country and runs the same D. It's asinine

[Coach007]

We are very confused on defense. You can see the players looking around throwing their hands up like they are not sure. It's been happening all year long. We have also been late getting personnel onto the field and in position out of dead ball situations. That has been happening all year long. That's coaching.

That's players not knowing the system.