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    What I'm hearing on all this

    Cohen

    Lots of people think Cohen is extremely sharp and is really fit for the AD job. Supposedly he was starting to get bored with coaching- and wanted to move on to another challenge. His wanting to move to some type of administration position was known before all this started with Strick and Fla. On the flip side- some others hate it. Worried about Cohen's personality rubbing some people the wrong way. We'll see

    I've also heard that Keenum and Byrne still talk quite often. Byrne has offered some advice on quite a few decisions we have made the last few years. I cant remember State hiring an AD from outside the University in my lifetime- so nothing really new here. Plenty of people got on Strick and some of his decisions because he was a "male cheerleader from Prep", so not sure why so much uproar over this.

    Cannizaro

    Cohen's 2nd choice after speaking to 1 top national coach who he was 90% sure wouldnt come. Everybody raves about this guy and nobody has said anything negative. This guy has basically been Cohen's top choice to replace him. That says alot to me. Cohen knows how much this hire will be scrutinized because it will be his 1st. This is his guy. I can tell you right now- LSU people arent happy at all about this. And no more bunting in the 1st inning- so I love it.

    He's a good hitting coach and a really good recruiter. I'll take that anyday

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    Cohen > SS

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    Well the next time we get an 11:00 start time I hope he calls the SEC office and give them one of his famous F Bombs.

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    It's real simple why there's so much uproar-it's because he has no experience. None. Zero. A lot of this idea that bc Cohen sat in on a few hiring sessions he's all of a sudden an athletic admin. guru. A lot of lawyers sit in on those type meetings too, that doesn't make you qualified. He's not qualified for the position. This has all been one big deck of cards falling exactly how the old money guys want it to. They have this crazy idea that Cohen can reel Mullen in and control him. The next time an AD reels in a football coach at a power 5 school that makes 4X as much as the AD will be the first time.

    Could this all work out anyway? Absolutely. That doesn't mean it wasn't handled in the most shit-tastic manor imaginable.

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    This may all work out great or it may all bomb. Just way more risk than I would like to see us be taking. Byrne and Stricklin had spent their entire careers in athletic administration and now we have Cohen moving from coaching baseball to administration. On the baseball front, we hired Cohen after he had already won an SEC baseball title as a HC at Kentucky of all places and replace him with an LSU hitting coach that apparently has only been coaching for 2 years. Both hires are a big roll of the dice. Hope we don't come up snake eyes.

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    I'll go ahead and predict that Mullen leaves end of the season. The one thing Cohen has, is he's going to push things forward. He's a Steve Jobs type personality in that respect.

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    Some of y'all are wanting to have it both ways...just to bitch.

    If you wanna say Cohen isn't qualified for AD there may be some merit to that. I personally think he'll be great but I'm a big Cohen guy so my view is somewhat slanted. But there is zero doubt that what he is qualified at is baseball coach and knowing what it takes to be successful at an extraordinarily high level. if he thinks canizzaro is the guy then I'm 100% sure he's more qualified to at least make that decision than any of the folks on here whining about it.

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    I think most people are upset because of the inexperience. That's very reasonable and objective, so you can't expect people to be dancing in the streets about this. Cohen made two very bold decisions, and it's either going to work great or go over like a bunt after a leadoff double in the 1st inning. I don't see any middle ground here.

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    I think most the uproar is bc we're a really bad football team. We (state fans) have been terrible since USA took us down

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoeless joe View Post
    Some of y'all are wanting to have it both ways...just to bitch.

    If you wanna say Cohen isn't qualified for AD there may be some merit to that. I personally think he'll be great but I'm a big Cohen guy so my view is somewhat slanted. But there is zero doubt that what he is qualified at is baseball coach and knowing what it takes to be successful at an extraordinarily high level. if he thinks canizzaro is the guy then I'm 100% sure he's more qualified to at least make that decision than any of the folks on here whining about it.
    I hear ya. But the percentages of hand picked replacements by previous head coaches who have been very successful doesn't favor you on this. The majority of them are flops or appear as failures to the fanbase. There have been tons of very sharp Elite type of assistant coaches that just never work out as a HC or it takes somewhere else for them to find success. Hopefully it will work out great.

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    I don't think the "uproar" has anything to do with the hire. The "uproar" is for the same reason every other "uproar" occurs.... We (as State fans) can't be happy as a group of fans. If we are happy, we must find something very quickly that will make us unhappy again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I think most the uproar is bc we're a really bad football team. We (state fans) have been terrible since USA took us down
    +1 for the truth bomb

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleepy dawg View Post
    I don't think the "uproar" has anything to do with the hire. The "uproar" is for the same reason every other "uproar" occurs.... We (as State fans) can't be happy as a group of fans. If we are happy, we must find something very quickly that will make us unhappy again.
    Oh that's just bullshit. There's 1 sport we can compete for the best coaches in the country and that is baseball.

    TBH I'm surprised Cohen would move to the AD role with us expected to compete in baseball this year. I thought he had way too much competitor in him to leave with another CWS push. And as fans, we are built to win this year, so making a change as this juncture in the offseason and bring in a guy that couldn't land tulane's gig is concerning and we are concerned it's going to **** our season up in a year we expected to compete for a national seed and maybe catch fire at the right time finally. I'll say this, if cannizaro underachieved this year, he could be one and done. With the new stadium and boosters having high expectations, I can't imagine he has a long leash and if he struggles, we might jump at the chance to have a real coaching search at the beginning of the offseason instead of at the end of fall practice. Because baseball is the one sport we could get almost any coach in the country to at least listen to our pitch if it wasn't November that we were forced to make a coaching hire.

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    My brother who is a big time LSU guy called me last week and said 'please tell me what I'm hearing is not true...y'all are taking Cannizaro??' It almost sounded like he'd rather we had taken Maneiri.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Original48 View Post
    My brother who is a big time LSU guy called me last week and said 'please tell me what I'm hearing is not true...y'all are taking Cannizaro??' It almost sounded like he'd rather we had taken Maneiri.
    That is the vibe I got from their board too.

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    I only have one reservation with Cohen being AD now...fund raising. If he can keep that in line, we will be a force to be reckoned with.

    The intense b@st@rd wants to win, and will expect that from everyone that reports to him. (this means the football situation will be resolved internally...somehow)

    So if your view is, good, bad, or indifferent, of the hire...its done. Let's start pulling this wagon in the direction Cohen wants. If it fails, we all fail..but we do it together. IMO, I don't think it fails.

    Something I'll say next Wednesday too...on the political board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleepy dawg View Post
    I don't think the "uproar" has anything to do with the hire. The "uproar" is for the same reason every other "uproar" occurs.... We (as State fans) can't be happy as a group of fans. If we are happy, we must find something very quickly that will make us unhappy again.
    Some of you people's favorite pastime is bitching about the bitching. Does Cohen have an equal or better resume in athletic administration as when we hired Byrne or Stricklin? Pretty obviously no. People want to say "well I know Cohen and I THINK he will make a great AD". Well, fact is, that's all you've got is a thought about it because nobody knows what kind of job he will do as AD because he has spent his whole career as a baseball coach. Same can be said for those on here who say "well I've heard people in coaching circles talk about Canizarro and I THINK he will make a great baseball HC". Well, he has never been a HC before so we will just have to find out but at least he has been coaching baseball, even if for only 2 years. Only people with heavily tinted maroon colored glasses would say that they KNOW both of these are HR hires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bama_Dawg View Post
    I only have one reservation with Cohen being AD now...fund raising. If he can keep that in line, we will be a force to be reckoned with.

    The intense b@st@rd wants to win, and will expect that from everyone that reports to him. (this means the football situation will be resolved internally...somehow)

    So if your view is, good, bad, or indifferent, of the hire...its done. Let's start pulling this wagon in the direction Cohen wants. If it fails, we all fail..but we do it together. IMO, I don't think it fails.

    Something I'll say next Wednesday too...on the political board.
    My thoughts exactly - I wish Cohen knew some former MLB guys with tons of money*** As an alumni, if I was a cigar boy, I would trust my donation in Cohen's hands bc he wants to win badly

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    get on board the JC train and quit 17ing bitching. Our baseball program will move on up the ladder and our other programs will have a true Bulldog running them.

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    I think Cohen is going to do a great job. He does have admin. Experience he was already an Associate AD which means he was in on hiring and other meetings. He's a State guy that loves the University that wanted to come to State to be a coach, now AD. Plus he does have his masters in Athletic Administration. I support him 100%

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