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Originally Posted by
Thick
Our current HF coach had no head coaching experience, and look what he has accomplished. He still can't recruit, and still miss manages games and play calling. We have been to the CWS 9 times, and the best we have done is runner-up. The guy that lead us to our best finish is likely the guy who will be our new AD. Do you guys really think he would turn over the program to someone who will not take pride and work his ass off for this program? Henderson will be his assistant which should be helpful to the young skipper. I guess Cohen could get back into the good graces with Polk, and hire Raffo? It could be worse, but do we really know who the HC will be?
HOW DARE YOU TRY TO USE LOGIC ON THIS SUBJECT!!!!****
You know most of these people are gonna go off the deep end before any announcement is made. I'm wondering how many doublewides are gonna burn if this is true.
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All this proves is that things the status quo in the AD will remain the same. We are inbred so badly we can't get out of our own way, there was a chance to do it right but interior politics seems to have raised its ugly head once again.
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Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
All this proves is that things the status quo in the AD will remain the same. We are inbred so badly we can't get out of our own way, there was a chance to do it right but interior politics seems to have raised its ugly head once again.
Exactly. We have people that lack vision and are only concerned about themselves over winning and what is best for MSU. And then they wonder why we never won or they make excuses about our history without doing anything to fix it.
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Originally Posted by
msstatelp1
HOW DARE YOU TRY TO USE LOGIC ON THIS SUBJECT!!!!****
You know most of these people are gonna go off the deep end before any announcement is made. I'm wondering how many doublewides are gonna burn if this is true.
Honestly it's not so much about Cohen as AD with many (although I'm leery it will work). The problem that many of us have, has to do with the behind the scenes power plays, misinformation, lies from certain sections, false reporting to generate support and an agenda driven push that many do not feel is about what's best for the university and is being made by some who have no business trying to force a descision. It's for their benefit as much as they "think" they are helping they are also helping themselves.
Last edited by Really Clark?; 11-03-2016 at 03:42 PM.
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The whole thing top to bottom has been atrociously mismanaged. We should've extended Stricklin long before this and gotten more money for him, but instead we all thought "he'd never leave us, we're family" and that clearly wasn't the case. Even then, he still probably would've taken the UF job. Now we have a chance to hire just about any G5 AD in the country that we so choose or any P5 Associate AD that we'd like and we are going to settle for a guy who knows absolutely nothing about athletic administration at this kind of budgetary level. On top of that, we are replacing arguably a top 5 college baseball coach in the country with an assistant. Reeks of incompetence. That's not to mention the PR mangling Keenum and Salter did with crapping on Bonners story and crying because he broke news they apparently didn't want out yet just to show some sort of a search that clearly never happened. I was really pissed Scott left, but after seeing the amateur hour that our higher ups have exhibited the last 6 weeks, it's hard to blame him for going somewhere that knows what the hell they're doing.
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Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
Honestly it's not so much about Cohen as AD with many (although I'm leery it will work). The problem that many of us have, has to do with the behind the scenes power plays, misinformation, lies from certain sections, false reporting to generate support and an agenda driven push that many do not feel is about what's best for the university and is being made by some who have no business trying to force a descision. It's for their benefit as much as they "think" they are helping they are also helping themselves.
This too. You nailed it.
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Originally Posted by
Pipedream
The whole thing top to bottom has been atrociously mismanaged. We should've extended Stricklin long before this and gotten more money for him, but instead we all thought "he'd never leave us, we're family" and that clearly wasn't the case. Even then, he still probably would've taken the UF job. Now we have a chance to hire just about any G5 AD in the country that we so choose or any P5 Associate AD that we'd like and we are going to settle for a guy who knows absolutely nothing about athletic administration at this kind of budgetary level. On top of that, we are replacing arguably a top 5 college baseball coach in the country with an assistant. Reeks of incompetence. That's not to mention the PR mangling Keenum and Salter did with crapping on Bonners story and crying because he broke news they apparently didn't want out yet just to show some sort of a search that clearly never happened. I was really pissed Scott left, but after seeing the amateur hour that our higher ups have exhibited the last 6 weeks, it's hard to blame him for going somewhere that knows what the hell they're doing.
And someone else that gets it.
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I just dont understand why you make such a public and damning statement about leaked news and then come out and hire the guy that the story was about. It just doesnt make any sense to me at all.
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Originally Posted by
Dawgbite
I really don't know nor do I care. Get me to a bowl 4 out of 5 years and to Omaha 1 out of every 4 years and they can announce Bully as the new AD.
+1
"Live every day like it was your last one.....And one day you're gonna be right"..Willie Nelson
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Originally Posted by
civildawg
I just dont understand why you make such a public and damning statement about leaked news and then come out and hire the guy that the story was about. It just doesnt make any sense to me at all.
+1
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We already have an assistant with SEC HC experience, and we are going to ask him to work under a guy with no HC experience? Great idea!
I don't want to give it to Henderson. I'm just pointing out how ridiculous this sounds.
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This was put off 3 weeks because of the CL.
We are about to become basketball school.
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Originally Posted by
Pipedream
The whole thing top to bottom has been atrociously mismanaged. We should've extended Stricklin long before this and gotten more money for him, but instead we all thought "he'd never leave us, we're family" and that clearly wasn't the case. Even then, he still probably would've taken the UF job. Now we have a chance to hire just about any G5 AD in the country that we so choose or any P5 Associate AD that we'd like and we are going to settle for a guy who knows absolutely nothing about athletic administration at this kind of budgetary level. On top of that, we are replacing arguably a top 5 college baseball coach in the country with an assistant. Reeks of incompetence. That's not to mention the PR mangling Keenum and Salter did with crapping on Bonners story and crying because he broke news they apparently didn't want out yet just to show some sort of a search that clearly never happened. I was really pissed Scott left, but after seeing the amateur hour that our higher ups have exhibited the last 6 weeks, it's hard to blame him for going somewhere that knows what the hell they're doing.
Your only seeing the end results of what was going on, it was well played by those that ultimately got what they wanted.
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Originally Posted by
Eric Nies Grind Time
So an AD with zero AD experience and a HC with zero HC experience. HAIL STATE
Not worried abut the AD part... but State does not have to, nor should it, settle for an unproven baseball coach.
Not only did Mississippi State embarrass LSU on this night. Davis Wade Stadium wrecked Tiger Stadium in music choice, atmosphere and, most of all, volume.
When I'm 80 and deaf, it's not going to be all those Springsteen concerts or Queen at Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans on Halloween Night in 1978, it will be this game...............Glen Guilbeau--Sherveport Times
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Originally Posted by
Eric Nies Grind Time
So an AD with zero AD experience and a HC with zero HC experience. HAIL STATE
There is a slight chance this is going to look like a genius move, and a big chance this is going to look like a colossal 17up.
If the new baseball coach underachieves, that will mean we took a top 5 baseball coach and turned him into an AD that couldn't even handle selecting a head coach in the sport he's an expert in. Even if the new baseball coach does well, if Cohen screws up handling Dan (or ultimately replacing Dan if Dan leaves), it will still look bad as we took a huge risk with our baseball program to get an AD that 17ed up the first thing he touched outside of football. I really hope there is a genius being a puppet master behind the scenes and that this isn't as dumb as it looks.
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Hear here. What a complete and utter cluster this whole damn thing has turned in too.
Here we are about to construct a baseball stadium that is equivalent to Triple A baseball and the best in CBB and we're going to hire someone green as a grasshoppers ass. Unreal.
"The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)
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If it breaks tomorrow, at least we have obviously learned the OM PR way of putting out information that you don't really want to draw much attention. I can see it now....10:00 am; pr release from MSU that a press conference has been called for 1:00 pm that afternoon. That will give the press about 3 1/2 hours at most to circulate the information before the weekend kicks in and more important events start taking place and by Monday it would have been forgotten outside the state borders. I'm excited we've advanced this far.
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The obsession with "state guys" and loyalty just shows incompetence from our leadership. Hire the best guy for the job, pay him well, give him the resources he needs to be successful, and then hold him accountable. This isn't rocket science.
Instead we hire someone that can be controlled by people to whom the athletics program is a hobby and let him take a gamble on his first hire. Way to go, guys.
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Originally Posted by
Spiderman
Not worried abut the AD part... but State does not have to, nor should it, settle for an unproven baseball coach.
we arent settling. Many people feel this guy is the next top coach in the country. This also hurts LSU.
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The behind the scenes power play stuff reeks of middle school cheer squad antics. This whole thing is just BS the way it's been handled.
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