Now that the dust has settled

[Dawgfan77]

The question that the administration and we as fans need to ask is this. Would you rather and let Mullen continue down this path a create an even bigger hole to climb out of in two years or start the rebuild with a new staff in place.

[Red Sox Dawg]

The question that the administration and we as fans need to ask is this. Would you rather and let Mullen continue down this path a create an even bigger hole to climb out of in two years or start the rebuild with a new staff in place.

Here's a question for everyone. Why are some fans so certain that Mullen can't correct our problems and get us back on track? He did get us here, and from where we were to here is a much bigger hole to dig out of than where we are now and where we want to be. He pulled us out of the mire already, why do you think he can't do it again?

[Oleo]

I think its pretty simple with Mullen. It all boils down to what he wants. If he is committed to coaching here and truly wants to lead this
program, I think he has proven his coaching ability and we should support him. If he wants to go , its delusional to
think he would an effective coach. He may have already reached this point and his coaching and recruiting is impacted.
But if he's committed to stay , I dont think we should push him out

[Really Clark?]

Neither

[ShotgunDawg]

After the season, we should renegotiate Mullen's contract and put in a massive, behemoth buyout that another team would have to pay to hire him.

That way, if we do choose to keep him, we'll guarantee that he'll stay through the rebuild. Of course, we wouldn't up our buyout if we decided to fire him.

[Dawgology]

Here's a question for everyone. Why are some fans so certain that Mullen can't correct our problems and get us back on track? He did get us here, and from where we were to here is a much bigger hole to dig out of than where we are now and where we want to be. He pulled us out of the mire already, why do you think he can't do it again?

He can if he wanted to but it appears he doesn't want to. He tried mightily to get out of here for the past two summers. He basically mailed it in last year and rode Prescotts natural ability to some wins. Looking at Prescotts success in the NFL can you really not see how our staff undercoached in 2015?? If we didn't have Prescott last year then the 2015 result would have been the same as what we have this year. Mullen hired a new agent in the offseason....for a reason. I absolutely think Mullen can right the ship. I just don't think he really wants to.

[PassInterference]

After the season, we should renegotiate Mullen's contract and put in a massive, behemoth buyout that another team would have to pay to hire him.

That way, if we do choose to keep him, we'll guarantee that he'll stay through the rebuild. Of course, we wouldn't up our buyout if we decided to fire him.

That's now how buyouts work. The buyout is one amount. Which ever side wants to quit the contract has to pay it.

[Really Clark?]

He can if he wanted to but it appears he doesn't want to. He tried mightily to get out of here for the past two summers. He basically mailed it in last year and rode Prescotts natural ability to some wins. Looking at Prescotts success in the NFL can you really not see how our staff undercoached in 2015?? If we didn't have Prescott last year then the 2015 result would have been the same as what we have this year. Mullen hired a new agent in the offseason....for a reason. I absolutely think Mullen can right the ship. I just don't think he really wants to.

2 summers? Last winter, yes he interviewed. But the year prior is misinformation that the message boards keep trying to make a fact. It's not true.

[ShotgunDawg]

That's now how buyouts work. The buyout is one amount. Which ever side wants to quit the contract has to pay it.

Unless it's negotiated otherwise. Why couldn't it be?

[HereComesTheSpiral]

After the season, we should renegotiate Mullen's contract and put in a massive, behemoth buyout that another team would have to pay to hire him.

That way, if we do choose to keep him, we'll guarantee that he'll stay through the rebuild. Of course, we wouldn't up our buyout if we decided to fire him.

Why would anyone with half a brain sign what you are proposing?

[ShotgunDawg]

Why would anyone with half a brain sign what you are proposing?

Because you fire them if they don't. Is Mullen in or out?

[HereComesTheSpiral]

Because you fire them if they don't. Is Mullen in or out?

If I had Dan's current buyout and my employer came to me with that shit offer, you think I'm going to put any kind of effort into my current job?

[msbulldog]

Hiring Sexton could only possibly mean:
1. He is seriously trying to get out.
2. Hiring a better negotiator to get him an extension with better terms.
If you think about these are the only 2 things that hiring a new agent could mean in this situation.

[msstate7]

Hiring Sexton could only possibly mean:
1. He is seriously trying to get out.
2. Hiring a better negotiator to get him an extension with better terms.
If you think about these are the only 2 things that hiring a new agent could mean in this situation.

Or maybe Mullen got pissed at his agent letting Mullen's name floating out for every job opening

[msbulldog]

Or maybe Mullen got pissed at his agent letting Mullen's name floating out for every job opening

could be.

[Coursesuper]

could be.

After 7 years with the last guy and you couldn't land the gig you wanted, you hire Sexton to get you that next gig.

[msbulldog]

After 7 years with the last guy and you couldn't land the gig you wanted, you hire Sexton to get you that next gig.

Hiring Sexton could only possibly mean:
1. He is seriously trying to get out.

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[RiverCityDawg]

The question that the administration and we as fans need to ask is this. Would you rather and let Mullen continue down this path a create an even bigger hole to climb out of in two years or start the rebuild with a new staff in place.

1) Has the dust settled?
2) How many different threads are needed to discuss this same question?

[Political Hack]

Here's a question for everyone. Why are some fans so certain that Mullen can't correct our problems and get us back on track? He did get us here, and from where we were to here is a much bigger hole to dig out of than where we are now and where we want to be. He pulled us out of the mire already, why do you think he can't do it again?

He doesn't priorities recruiting and a select few of his coaches don't prioritize recruiting. We're not going to dig ourselves out of this hole with 2 and 3 star talent against Bama, LSU, Auburn, and A&M.

I like what he's done for State, but he's not willing to commit to this program. Plain and simple. After everything that's been built for him he's still looking for greener grass. In all honesty, I think there's a growing contingent of coaches that just aren't willing to do what it takes to win in the SEC. Brian Kelly, Harbaugh, and Meyer come to mind when thinking of coaches that could be in the SEC, but don't want to be. Mullen may be the next to exit and not look back. I can almost guarantee you Richt never returns either, even if offered. Miles is done in the SEC. I think we're starting to see the downfall of the conference as a whole, which is likely a result of the arms race that Bama has apparently run away with. We went from being a deep league to a one trick pony. And I blame a lot of that on Auburn and Ole Miss going nut-so and buying every player they wanted. It shook the league to its core, caused divides, caused recruiting to go bonkers, and took amateurism out of college football. I've slowly, but surely, become less and less interested in the product the SEC is putting on the field. I actually enjoyed watching Air Force vs New Mexico yesterday, the Clemson vs NC State game, and Ohio State vs Wisconsin. I watched a little of the Ole Miss game because I love seeing them be 3-3 and ranked #12 (are they the new Norte dame for the media or something?), but I barely saw another play of SEC football.

[Coursesuper]

He doesn't priorities recruiting and a select few of his coaches don't prioritize recruiting. We're not going to dig ourselves out of this hole with 2 and 3 star talent against Bama, LSU, Auburn, and A&M.

I like what he's done for State, but he's not willing to commit to this program. Plain and simple. After everything that's been built for him he's still looking for greener grass. In all honesty, I think there's a growing contingent of coaches that just aren't willing to do what it takes to win in the SEC. Brian Kelly, Harbaugh, and Meyer come to mind when thinking of coaches that could be in the SEC, but don't want to be. Mullen may be the next to exit and not look back. I can almost guarantee you Richt never returns either, even if offered. Miles is done in the SEC. I think we're starting to see the downfall of the conference as a whole, which is likely a result of the arms race that Bama has apparently run away with. We went from being a deep league to a one trick pony. And I blame a lot of that on Auburn and Ole Miss going nut-so and buying every player they wanted. It shook the league to its core, caused divides, caused recruiting to go bonkers, and took amateurism out of college football. I've slowly, but surely, become less and less interested in the product the SEC is putting on the field. I actually enjoyed watching Air Force vs New Mexico yesterday, the Clemson vs NC State game, and Ohio State vs Wisconsin. I watched a little of the Ole Miss game because I love seeing them be 3-3 and ranked #12 (are they the new Norte dame for the media or something?), but I barely saw another play of SEC football.

Well said, very accurate. I'll add Tennessee to the buying up every player they can list.