Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
Ortiz in 20 years...
2,472 hits
541 hr
1,768 RBI
.931

Jeff bagwell in 15 years...
2,314 hits
449 hr
1,529 RBI
.948 ops

Fred mcgriff in 19 years...
2,490 hits
493 hr
1,550 RBI
.886 ops

Bagwell and mcgriff were both position players that haven't made it yet.

WAR for the 3...
Mcgriff -- 52.4
Bagwell -- 79.6
Ortiz -- 55.4

If bagwell didn't make it, Ortiz has no business getting in 1st ballot
I absolutely agree he shouldn't get in the first ballot but with the influence the Northeast Baseball writers have I see him getting enough votes and the Red Sox organization will definitely put out a huge campaign for him when the time comes.I think Bagwell and Mcgriff should both be in, but thats just me. I've met both Bagwell and Mcgriff and they are both extremely fan friendly, not that that makes a difference on their HOF candidacy. Personally I think Edgar Martinez should be the first mostly DH to get in. That guy could rake.