Are People Afraid to Fire Dan for the Same Reasons as Stansbury?

[TrapGame]

- since we are a stepping stone program, how about hiring a new coach for 5 years and then helping him get a better job? This way we would always have young, hungry, aggressive coaches running our program without having the program tank first. Again, it's become clear that we are a stepping stone job, so let's maximize that by making sure guys don't stay at MSU long enough to get complacent.

Isn't that what Houston has been doing? Seems to work.

[Cowboydawg]

Did you watch the "believe" bama game after that? That number one stuff was great, but it was a fluke which was quickly proved after that. I'm not going to change your mind and you're not going to change mine. But if you watched today and other games this season I really don't know what else to try to explain.

Reaching #1 was not a fluke. We had a very good team that year with an unbelievable qb and a very good college running back. They earned every bit of that and for you to take one of the best runs in MSU history and downgrade it like that is really sad.

That team had a lot of top end talent and could've gone undefeated in plenty of other conferences. People want to sit here and praise Houston and Louisville who have to get up for 2-3 games a year and still lose one of them. We didn't suddenly lose it all at the end of the year. We play in the sec though. Alabama loses games in the sec but Alabama doesn't lose them at the end of the year. Yes we lacked the depth to finish out an sec season and no we didn't win the National Championship, but that run to #1 was not a fluke.

[blacklistedbully]

The last two years magnified the problems. The records were awesome. The rise to #1..awesome. The lack of imaginative game plan against Alabama and TSUN and then the offseason trying to find any other job just ruined it for me.
Mullen promised to elevate the program. He did. He is no longer meeting that standard and is going down in a blaze of horror.

Well said!

[blacklistedbully]

Fluke or not how many times has it happened to us? I enjoyed the heck out of it. My god I was leaving the stadium 30 minutes after it was over and our students, OUR STUDENTS (my son among them) were chanting we're number one, and for that day they were correct. It seems to have become a fasionable negative for "our" fans now. You people need to get a grip on reality, and an even tighter one in history.!

Irony

[blacklistedbully]

Given what you are posting......good.

More irony.

[dawgs]

The biggest difference between Dan and Cohen is even during the 15 season, I never once questioned Cohen?s desire to be here. That and we had one of our best recruiting classes in 2015. I remember Cohen being PISSED after we lost to Arkansas Pine Bluff in 2015- and after that the beards were shaved off. We get ?Well, 50% of the teams in America lost today? from Dan after we lost to South Alabama.
Cohen had also taken us to the finals of the NC round which no other coach in a major sport can say and had won SEC Championships at Kentucky and had won the SEC Tournament as well. Dan has done well- but his greatest accomplishment was winning the Gator Bowl in 2010. That pales in comparison to what Cohen had done before 2015 so yeah- Cohen should have gotten a longer leash. And yes, Dan did take us to number one in football, but he also didn?t finish the job that year. And if Cohen would have had a bad season last year, he would have been gone as well. Kudos to him and his team for nutting up and going beyond that and winning the SEC and getting a National Seed.

And as someone mentioned- Cohen brought in Will Coggin to help with the hitting. I won?t give him credit for Butch because Butch would have been here had Auburn?s job not come open.

Here?s the other difference. As soon as we were swept by Tennessee, Cohen went to Georgia himself and personally recruited Nate Lowe and told him that we needed him badly the next year and to not go pro. Dan goes to Europe and buys Yeezy?s.

Umm I'm not against moving on from Mullen, but his greatest achievement is definitely not the 2010 gator bowl. Just saying, you can make your point without misrepresenting the facts.

[Todd4State]

Umm I'm not against moving on from Mullen, but his greatest achievement is definitely not the 2010 gator bowl. Just saying, you can make your point without misrepresenting the facts.

What was his greatest achievement then? 2010 was slightly better than 2014 IMO.