Are People Afraid to Fire Dan for the Same Reasons as Stansbury?

[Dawg61]

And his record against the SEC W during that time is??

ETA: Dude ... EVERYTHING is bad. It ain't bad QB play. IT'S EVERYTHING!

Good QB play masks a lot. We are probably 4-1 right now with any other starting QB Dan has had the last 15 years.

[Dawg61]

Damn, how many SEC games did we play in 3 years? That's 10 per year!.
He's 13-11 in the past 3 years. 14-13 if you add this seasons games.

You know what I meant

[GTHOM]

Good QB play masks a lot. We are probably 4-1 right now with any other starting QB Dan has had the last 15 years.

Hell no Relf, Russell, Lee we have the exact same record right now

[Dawg61]

Hell no Relf, Russell, Lee we have the exact same record right now

We'll just have to disagree here

[GTHOM]

We'll just have to disagree here

None of those kids are changing the locker room and none of those kids are making skid mark want to coach again

[PMDawg]

This argument ends after the last 3 games. That has the potential to be a really ugly stretch. If he coaches his way through that in a decent manner, he's not getting fired. If it's as ugly as I think it will be....bye.

[Tbonewannabe]

Good QB play masks a lot. We are probably 4-1 right now with any other starting QB Dan has had the last 15 years.

If Dan calls the same offense with any sophomore QB then we probably don't win anymore but probably lose every game with sophomore Relf and sophomore Russell. As a sophomore there probably isn't any of the QBs that can run the multiple progression complicated offense we now run.

[defiantdog]

All good things come to an end. Mullen doesn't want to be here anymore and we want a new coach. Let's part ways without the break up sex and get someone who wants to be here. He doesn't care anymore

[Maroonthirteen]

I agree. What Taog said.

Also, who says all "not yet" on Mullen was a don't for Stan's?

I would have fired Stan's the day Bailey was dismissed and Sydney was not. I'm wait and see how the season plays out on Mullen. Because as Taog said, the timing could be bad for us.

[Jack Lambert]

Not for me. We just came off of 19 wins in two seasons. He has earned the chance for another year. Yall can say what you want, you can bitch all you want and you can order some cheese but unless Mullen leaves on his own accord he will be our coach next year so relax and hope they can pull things together and if you are one of those who are hoping we lose so he will be fired you are making this board really suck.

[Dawgface]

How many years of bad o-line play is he allowed?

He's already passed that point. I have no problem firing him if we go 3-9.

[GTHOM]

Not for me. We just came off of 19 wins in two seasons. He has earned the chance for another year. Yall can say what you want, you can bitch all you want and you can order some cheese but unless Mullen leaves on his own accord he will be our coach next year so relax and hope they can pull things together and if you are one of those who are hoping we lose so he will be fired you are making this board really suck.

We won 19 games in 2 years against who?? It was cool till Mullen quit after we (him) panicked and blew it vs Bama. Then didnt bother vs OM. With one of the best players in SEC history? Yes SEC history look at what hes doing in the NFL

[Activated Alpha]

Good thing when I got married my non football wife wanted us to pick a team that we could cheer for as a family. We've been Michigan fans for the past 4 years and I still follow State closely because I'm an alum.

Was happy for state during the Dak years but glad I haven't followed them this year or I would have chucked our flat screen through the brick wall.

[CadaverDawg]

I think it?s ridiculous to keep a failing head coach because the next guy might not be as good.

Lol. A "failing head coach"? Just the best one in program history, but by all means continue. Calling him a "failing" coach fits the "Fire him" narrative better after all.

Look everybody, people that want Dan to have another year may just be wanting to see the season play out to see if our most winningest coach can turn it around. After today, I have my doubts. I'm seeing undisciplined, uninspired, poorly coached players right now. That being said, Mullen has turned it around before, and we'd never find a good coach wanting to come to a program that is a perennial SEC West doormat, yet fired a coach that took them to #1 in the country after missing a bowl for the first time in 7 years. Now, I DO expect Mullen to have to make some changes. Our OL coach has got to go....he can't recruit, can't coach, and sure as hell cant inspire or lead. If Mullen proceeds to look like he has lost this team AND is unwilling to fire Hevesy (and really Knox & Sallach too), then we have no choice but to run him out. But it will take a meltdown of epic proportions for MSU to buy out that big contract & force him out after the success he has brought.

Best thing we can do as fans, is cheer for these guys to turn it around...hope Dan can reel in this pretty good recruiting class....and then 2017 will make or break him. Truth be told, I wouldn't be stunned if he has been having some private conversations (or his agent has) about job openings, and we may not have to run him out after this season anyway. Before you laugh bc of this season, think about what he has done to our program. Other schools see THAT, not the shitty "rebuild" we're going through this year. Chances are, a new AD may want "his guy" b4 long anyway, so everybody cheer for the team, cheer for their improvement, cheer that they don't quit, and hope we close recruiting strong (I know, sigh)....and the coaching stuff will take care of itself. No need in our fans assisting in ruining our recruiting class by bad mouthing players and making future players think they may have a new coaching staff next year so they should go elsewhere.

Just my opinion.

[bobtail bob]

Bottom line. He don't want to be here. Scared or not the decision kind of answers itself.
Recruits know that he wants to bolt.

[ScoobaDawg]

Simple question: Are your casual fans afraid to fire Dan for the same reason they were afraid to fire Stansbury when it was obvious he needed to go?

My take? Yupp.

It really doesn't matter what the common fan thinks. It comes down to leadership and the money boys.
Todays game makes me sick. I'm just now watching it because I was watching the OU-TX game with the wife this morning instead.
I'm glad I did.. at least that game was entertaining and had a heartbeat.

Mullen is done. We are f*cked with him if a change won't be forced. Our recruiting is lacking. As I'm watching the game now. It's on coaching.It's on technique. It's on execution. The play calling is setup for perfect execution and we can't do that. Our talent is severally lacking and we have no leadership. We are in a hole and with or without Mullen it's gonna take a year or two to recover.

I told someone earlier. I will not allow a Mullen lead team dicate my scheule anymore. I will watch the games. But not likely live. This shit is going to continue to get worse and we won't recover this year. I've said before it's going to be a long year. But I really mean it now..It's going to be a realllllly long year of bad football.

[Noxdog]

Lol. A "failing head coach"? Just the best one in program history, but by all means continue. Calling him a "failing" coach fits the "Fire him" narrative better after all.

Look everybody, people that want Dan to have another year may just be wanting to see the season play out to see if our most winningest coach can turn it around. After today, I have my doubts. I'm seeing undisciplined, uninspired, poorly coached players right now. That being said, Mullen has turned it around before, and we'd never find a good coach wanting to come to a program that is a perennial SEC West doormat, yet fired a coach that took them to #1 in the country after missing a bowl for the first time in 7 years. Now, I DO expect Mullen to have to make some changes. Our OL coach has got to go....he can't recruit, can't coach, and sure as hell cant inspire or lead. If Mullen proceeds to look like he has lost this team AND is unwilling to fire Hevesy (and really Knox & Sallach too), then we have no choice but to run him out. But it will take a meltdown of epic proportions for MSU to buy out that big contract & force him out after the success he has brought.

Best thing we can do as fans, is cheer for these guys to turn it around...hope Dan can reel in this pretty good recruiting class....and then 2017 will make or break him. Truth be told, I wouldn't be stunned if he has been having some private conversations (or his agent has) about job openings, and we may not have to run him out after this season anyway. Before you laugh bc of this season, think about what he has done to our program. Other schools see THAT, not the shitty "rebuild" we're going through this year. Chances are, a new AD may want "his guy" b4 long anyway, so everybody cheer for the team, cheer for their improvement, cheer that they don't quit, and hope we close recruiting strong (I know, sigh)....and the coaching stuff will take care of itself. No need in our fans assisting in ruining our recruiting class by bad mouthing players and making future players think they may have a new coaching staff next year so they should go elsewhere.

Just my opinion.

Yep. We need to be patient on this. he will either get hired somewhere else after the year or 17 is sink or swim. Plus the job market should be a little more settled by then.

[CadaverDawg]

Yep. We need to be patient on this. he will either get hired somewhere else after the year or 17 is sink or swim. Plus the job market should be a little more settled by then.

Totally agree.

[Noxdog]

Totally agree.

Learned today on 247 board that he has hired Sexton. Must have missed it but JS is working on an exit if possible. If not, 2017 tell's the tale.

[TimberBeast]

I told someone earlier. I will not allow a Mullen lead team dicate my scheule anymore. I will watch the games. But not likely live. This shit is going to continue to get worse and we won't recover this year. I've said before it's going to be a long year. But I really mean it now..It's going to be a realllllly long year of bad football.

I'm with you on this and it really pisses me off. For the past 25 years at least of my life, since I've been married for 18 years, our two kids, Fall Saturdays have always been scheduled around State football. Had season tickets for 16 years until two years ago. But the last couple years I really couldn't give a shit anymore. When Mullen is gone I'm back in 100%. I can't believe I wasted the morning today on that first half. Should have been downtown for cruisin on the coast but watched that garbage instead. Won't happen anymore.