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08-18-2016, 10:42 AM
#161

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
We would be fine if we just use Aeris as the primary running back. I think that's the key. If we let him play and he can get 1000 yards and 10 rushing touchdown we'll be fine. If we find ways to involve Dear/Lee/Gibson even more we'll be that much more explosive and balanced. The biggest thing about Fitz is he is going to turn the ball over more than Dak- who very rarely turned it over so I'm not saying Fitz has a problem it's just who he is compared to. I don't think we can expect Fitz to be as effective a runner as Dak. I'm not saying that Fitz is bad, slow, or etc. Just that I don't expect him to be as productive as Dak running the ball.
I'm not expecting us to be fourth in the SEC this year. I'm expecting middle of the pack or lower half.
I'd flip your thinking on Fitz - he will be an effective runner and wouldn't be surprised to see him leading the team in rushing. It's the performance in the passing game that could see the drop off. That's not to say he has a weak arm, or can't make throws, but he won't have consistency in decision making and the confidence in his receivers that Dak had the last 2 years. Think Dak 2013.
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08-18-2016, 11:02 AM
#162

Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
So Mullen and our coaching staff are about to turn into the Charlie Shira years without Dak? Yes, Dak may be the greatest MSU offensive player I'll ever see, (my late Father said that Jackie Parker was the best he ever saw), but surely our 2016 cupboard is not this bare. "Shirley", I won't have to wait decades for another good team.
The 2016 cupboard is not bare, but we have pretty big weaknesses at OL, CB, and RB, and also a green QB.
We have 3 marginal OL in Clayborne, Desper, and Senior. I think we have three more marginal OL with Calhoun, Jenkins, and Rankin. If they come out and immediately gel and avoid injuries, that's still just an ok OL, one that is still weak enough to all but guarantee losses against Bama and LSU, even if we end up good everywhere else.
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08-18-2016, 01:30 PM
#163

Originally Posted by
blacklistedbully
It was a poor pass, but not an uncatchable one. It hit him in the hands, but he did have to reach back awkwardly for it. A playmaker probably makes the catch.
Looking at it again, it was all on Prescott. Even if Shump had held onto the pass, it would have been down inches from the goal. His butt and back hit the field before the ball crossed the goal-line.
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08-18-2016, 01:41 PM
#164

Originally Posted by
blacklistedbully
Maybe...just maybe if some of y'all think you've figured out who C34's alter-ego is, you should consider not blasting it for all to see?
It's one thing to speculate or wonder what happened to him. It's another entirely to continually point to another poster and call attention to them.
At least that's my opinion. Why would any of us...knowing what those psychotic morons up north are capable of, wish to bring that down on Lee again?
I'm not saying RP or anyone else here is Coach...but unless Coach has asked some of his inner circle to do this to poke 'em in-the-eye, I'm suggesting we cool it on calling out posters on here as being Coach.
Am I overreacting, or is discretion the better part of valor?
I thought he had hijacked your sig.**
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08-18-2016, 01:54 PM
#165

Originally Posted by
Johnson85
The 2016 cupboard is not bare, but we have pretty big weaknesses at OL, CB, and RB, and also a green QB.
We have 3 marginal OL in Clayborne, Desper, and Senior. I think we have three more marginal OL with Calhoun, Jenkins, and Rankin. If they come out and immediately gel and avoid injuries, that's still just an ok OL, one that is still weak enough to all but guarantee losses against Bama and LSU, even if we end up good everywhere else.
I don't consider Clayborne, Jenkins or Rankin, "marginal". Maybe not Calhoun either.
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08-18-2016, 01:59 PM
#166

Originally Posted by
Interpolation_Dawg_EX
LOL is this serious??
Are you serious?? Do you not realize yet the lengths to which some of those nuts will go? If we keep pointing to a select few...or even one poster on here, do you not think it's going to grab the attention of one or more of those nuts, and that they will dedicate significant resources to try and figure it out, so they can then run to the school he's at and attempt to screw him over again?
After all, he did agree to stop the ED stuff as a condition of employment. A determined hacker could figure it out.
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08-18-2016, 02:00 PM
#167

Originally Posted by
Random Poster
I wont be surprised if the USA game is within 10 at half. We gonna need Ross
They just lost their entire starting dline to injury. If it is a game in the 2nd half we are in deep shit.
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08-18-2016, 02:18 PM
#168

Originally Posted by
blacklistedbully
Maybe...just maybe if some of y'all think you've figured out who C34's alter-ego is, you should consider not blasting it for all to see?
It's one thing to speculate or wonder what happened to him. It's another entirely to continually point to another poster and call attention to them.
At least that's my opinion. Why would any of us...knowing what those psychotic morons up north are capable of, wish to bring that down on Lee again?
I'm not saying RP or anyone else here is Coach...but unless Coach has asked some of his inner circle to do this to poke 'em in-the-eye, I'm suggesting we cool it on calling out posters on here as being Coach.
Am I overreacting, or is discretion the better part of valor?

Originally Posted by
blacklistedbully
Are you serious?? Do you not realize yet the lengths to which some of those nuts will go? If we keep pointing to a select few...or even one poster on here, do you not think it's going to grab the attention of one or more of those nuts, and that they will dedicate significant resources to try and figure it out, so they can then run to the school he's at and attempt to screw him over again?
After all, he did agree to stop the ED stuff as a condition of employment. A determined hacker could figure it out.
Dude, just stop. Random Poster pretty much announced his identity to the board HERE, so he doesn't appear to be too worried about it. And if he was worried about it, he could get it handled on his own.....he doesn't need you coming in here and playing board police on his behalf.
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08-18-2016, 02:19 PM
#169

Originally Posted by
blacklistedbully
Are you serious?? Do you not realize yet the lengths to which some of those nuts will go? If we keep pointing to a select few...or even one poster on here, do you not think it's going to grab the attention of one or more of those nuts, and that they will dedicate significant resources to try and figure it out, so they can then run to the school he's at and attempt to screw him over again?
After all, he did agree to stop the ED stuff as a condition of employment. A determined hacker could figure it out.
Yeah I'm serious...do you not realize that anyone with half a brain could figure out if he changed user names and started posting again? With all the rebel traffic, it'll be hard for him to not be exposed.
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08-18-2016, 02:25 PM
#170

Originally Posted by
sandwolf
Dude, just stop. Random Poster pretty much announced his identity to the board
HERE, so he doesn't appear to be too worried about it. And if he was worried about it, he could get it handled on his own.....he doesn't need you coming in here and playing board police on his behalf.
A) There is at least plausible deniability in that other thread.
B) Do you really not conceive how spitting-into-the-wind more regularly increases the chances it will end up in your face eventually?
C) Who said I was trying to, "police" things. I gave my opinion...nothing more.
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08-18-2016, 02:26 PM
#171

Originally Posted by
blacklistedbully
I don't consider Clayborne, Jenkins or Rankin, "marginal". Maybe not Calhoun either.
I agree with Johnson85 that the OL is "marginal". At least the way most of them played last year was marginal-maybe they have improved this year. Sure hope they have.
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08-18-2016, 02:42 PM
#172

Originally Posted by
NCDawg
I agree with Johnson85 that the OL is "marginal". At least the way most of them played last year was marginal-maybe they have improved this year. Sure hope they have.
Based on strictly last year, I wouldn't argue with any except Rankin. He's a former 4 star recruit for whom the light bulb has supposedly come on, so why are we calling him "marginal" when he hasn't even played yet? Sure he's not a guaranteed star either, but it works both ways.
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08-18-2016, 02:45 PM
#173

Originally Posted by
blacklistedbully
I don't consider Clayborne, Jenkins or Rankin, "marginal". Maybe not Calhoun either.
The way Clayborne played last year I would say was marginal. I certainly didn't expect him to be marginal based on how he started his career, so maybe he'll jump this year. Jenkins was not even marginal last year, which is perfectly understandable considering he was a RS Fr. I think he'll be at least marginal this year, and maybe he will have made a jump to be good. Same with Calhoun. I don't know how you could consider Rankin anything other than marginal. Last year was his third year out of high school and he got redshirted when we are aboslutely shit at his position. Hopefully he will surprise us, but I don't think he's something you could count on.
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08-18-2016, 03:04 PM
#174

Originally Posted by
tcdog70
but is that RB ready to Pass-Block?
FIFY
You're blind if you can't see improvement.....Freshmens......Strain.....Kick rocks and pound sand......Drag my Yankee ass outta here!......
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08-18-2016, 03:21 PM
#175

Originally Posted by
Johnson85
The 2016 cupboard is not bare, but we have pretty big weaknesses at OL, CB, and RB, and also a green QB.
We have 3 marginal OL in Clayborne, Desper, and Senior. I think we have three more marginal OL with Calhoun, Jenkins, and Rankin. If they come out and immediately gel and avoid injuries, that's still just an ok OL, one that is still weak enough to all but guarantee losses against Bama and LSU, even if we end up good everywhere else.
You are saying I can give up on my 15 - 0 or whatever it takes, season through the NC?
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08-18-2016, 05:06 PM
#176

Originally Posted by
NCDawg
I agree with Johnson85 that the OL is "marginal". At least the way most of them played last year was marginal-maybe they have improved this year. Sure hope they have.
Judging by last year, I'd say our offensive line will fall more into the Swiss cheese category unfortunately.
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08-18-2016, 07:55 PM
#177
I think you guys fail to consider just how bad Warren at LT was and everyone on the line had to compensate from there. I think our OL will be an average SEC line and we will be pleasantly surprised from it. There is no more truer a phrase that you are only as good as your weakest link then on the OL.
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08-18-2016, 08:17 PM
#178

Originally Posted by
MarketingBully
I think you guys fail to consider just how bad Warren at LT was and everyone on the line had to compensate from there. I think our OL will be an average SEC line and we will be pleasantly surprised from it. There is no more truer a phrase that you are only as good as your weakest link then on the OL.
That's possible. He was incredibly bad
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08-18-2016, 08:30 PM
#179

Originally Posted by
MarketingBully
I think you guys fail to consider just how bad Warren at LT was and everyone on the line had to compensate from there. I think our OL will be an average SEC line and we will be pleasantly surprised from it. There is no more truer a phrase that you are only as good as your weakest link then on the OL.
I love Warren & he will be a good coach, but even he admitted to Rosebowl the other day that Jenkins should have started over him at LT
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08-18-2016, 08:38 PM
#180

Originally Posted by
blacklistedbully
I don't consider Clayborne, Jenkins or Rankin, "marginal". Maybe not Calhoun either.
Jenkins wasn't even marginal last year, he was awful.
Rankin is an unknown.
I agree Clayborn is better than marginal.
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