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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    Right, your opinion. But your opinion doesn't mean shit to our Coaching Staff. What does matter is watching our players every day in practice. Dan thinks Shump deserves to play, He is the head coach of a top 5 offense Two years in a row. What's your claim to fame, a moderator on ED. If you actually look at Hollaways Stats , he is just as good as anyone. Hell you can nit pick any offense in the History of football and say it wasn't fully optimized. I scratch my head sometimes at what Dan does but looking at the Big Picture, I am satisfied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Who do you pull off the field to go with a fullback? If we pull a wr, I think I'd rather see 2 TEs than a fullback
    Whomever. I want to see multiple personnel formations. That is the best way to maximize talent. We could use the fullback 20% of the time just off the top of my head.

    Dear, Ross, Gray, Myles, Couch or whatever 6'5" WR is ready, Holloway, Aeris, Shumpert, and Lee/Gibson should be the guys getting the Lion's share of the touches. Add in Thomas and Justin Johnson at TE as well in that group since I almost forgot about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    My bad on the numbers but my point remains that our starting running back that Dan thinks is a great blocker had zero rushing touchdowns and Aeris had more in limited action. Aeris at the very least is ready and could be a 1k rusher for us at worst and probably would have last year as well had he been afforded the opportunity. Lee and Gibson are both ready as well.
    I understand but my point is you are comparing numbers for two totally different players. As an APB scat back type, Holloway wouldn't be getting many touches inside the red zone which severely limit his TD numbers. Those touches will go to a more traditional power back. Or QB in our offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    It's a message board, I'm discussing the team. Never said I know more than Dan, so that's a silly thing to even bring up. That being said...Dan has been wrong about Shumpert for 3 years now, yet he's going to be trotted back out there again it appears. So just because someone isn't calling Dan a football God on a message board, doesn't mean he thinks he's a bad coach or that I could do better. It's just critiquing & discussing one aspect of his coaching that appears to be a poor pattern.

    I continually get amazed at how we constantly have to have conversations about whether other posters are being too optimistic, pessimistic, or whatever. I joined into a discussion, gave my opinion, called it my opinion, and left it at that. Never said my opinion amounted to a hill of beans, bc it doesn't. So I'm not sure why you said that about my "claim to fame" or anything else. I'm just discussing the topic.
    YOU BE RIGHT-GOT A LITTLE WORKED UP. BUT SHUMP HASN'T PLAYED A DOWN YET. HOW CAN YOU NOT GIVE A RAT'S ASS ABOUT BEING RANKED #1 OFFENSE IN THE SEC. I SURE HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE TOP 5 IN THE SEC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Sheesh Bro.... It's a message board.

    You and the guy that thinks any bit of slight negativity on Elitedawgs affects recruiting need to go take paranoid pills & hang out in a bathroom stall
    Coming from you? I am amused

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    Quote Originally Posted by preachermatt83 View Post
    Get a grip man. Geez.
    What did I say that is wrong? all the tangents you have been on in the past. But thanks for your input. waiting to see what you disagree with in my post. Geez. are you just mad I made a smartass comment to Cadaver?

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    Back to the fall camp discussion...saw it mentioned elsewhere that Jamal Peters wasn't at the scrimmage. Anyone know what's up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Poster View Post
    "It takes 3 weeks to get a good RB ready to play college football"- Kyle Whittingham
    but is that RB ready to start?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Aeris had 3 rushing TD. Holloway had 5 rec TD from the backfield mostly, if I recall correctly. Holloway is an APB running back and averaged over 100 all purpose yards per game. No he is not the RB to get red zone TD rushing. What we have to replace is Dak's 10 rushing TD's either from the QB position again or a combination of QB/RB.
    Agree, Holloway also averaged 105 yard total offense per game. I'll agree he is not an every down back but he is a very good player. i just hope that one of of other backs steps up and becomes our every down type back. If it is Aeris then great.

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    Good Gracious, the next two weeks can't get here soon enough.... until I actually see the current product on the field, I will reserve criticism. What guys did last year has no actual relevance on what they do this year. There's been a whole off season to deal with issues... What if Shump has a breakout year? What if Holloway gets 1000 yds?.. we won't really know until it gets underway. I think this year we will see a retooled completely different look than we have seen the last few years.
    cautiously optimistic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barking 13 View Post
    Good Gracious, the next two weeks can't get here soon enough.... until I actually see the current product on the field, I will reserve criticism. What guys did last year has no actual relevance on what they do this year. There's been a whole off season to deal with issues... What if Shump has a breakout year? What if Holloway gets 1000 yds?.. we won't really know until it gets underway. I think this year we will see a retooled completely different look than we have seen the last few years.
    I am for to being in agreements. Ready for next two weeks to be going by. Until thens I am afraid of many posters having bad case of the sandy ******s.



    Not being directions at any persons. But for to gentle reminder this of time of year is best time for to be Bulldog fan. Have fun and hopes of great season ahead.

    Swami
    "Even the greatest fool can accomplish a task if it were after his or her heart. But the intelligent ones are those who can convert every work into one that suits their taste." - Swami Vivekananda

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX View Post
    Back to the fall camp discussion...saw it mentioned elsewhere that Jamal Peters wasn't at the scrimmage. Anyone know what's up?
    I heard he has a minor injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX View Post
    Back to the fall camp discussion...saw it mentioned elsewhere that Jamal Peters wasn't at the scrimmage. Anyone know what's up?
    Concussion like symptoms. They didn't let him play because he hadn't passed all the test to be cleared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    I understand but my point is you are comparing numbers for two totally different players. As an APB scat back type, Holloway wouldn't be getting many touches inside the red zone which severely limit his TD numbers. Those touches will go to a more traditional power back. Or QB in our offense.
    Our offense works better with a between the tackles Vick Ballard type. Holloway absolutely should get touches but he should not be the primary back. That's why our offense looked like it did when Perkins and Holloway were the primary guys. That's my main point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I heard he has a minor injury.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    Concussion like symptoms. They didn't let him play because he hadn't passed all the test to be cleared.
    Thanks...hopefully he'll get well soon. That's not something he needs to rush though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Our offense works better with a between the tackles Vick Ballard type. Holloway absolutely should get touches but he should not be the primary back. That's why our offense looked like it did when Perkins and Holloway were the primary guys. That's my main point.
    No where did I say Holloway was the feature back. He is an APB. DAK was the feature back. This offense is its best with the QB as your feature back. Dak lead the team in rushing the last 2 years and only 4 attempts short of leading the team in 2013. The best year was 2014 when you had a complementary back who could carry it a lot as well. But our second best offense under Mullen was last year. This system really needs a QB who is at least a threat to run the option. Even under Myer, most of his best offenses featured a QB that can run.

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    I think it's going to be a frustrating year to say the least. We don't know any of our backfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DudyDawg View Post
    I think it's going to be a frustrating year to say the least. We don't know any of our backfield.
    Wut??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    No where did I say Holloway was the feature back. He is an APB. DAK was the feature back. This offense is its best with the QB as your feature back. Dak lead the team in rushing the last 2 years and only 4 attempts short of leading the team in 2013. The best year was 2014 when you had a complementary back who could carry it a lot as well. But our second best offense under Mullen was last year. This system really needs a QB who is at least a threat to run the option. Even under Myer, most of his best offenses featured a QB that can run.
    I know you didn't say that but I am afraid Dan will use him as the primary back like last year.

    I think Dan's offense works best with a dual threat QB and a running back that can run between the tackles and get yards. Robinson is probably the best template of what we want in a running back from a skill set standpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely View Post
    Wut??
    This entire thread is arguing about running backs and we don't have a named starter at qb, do we?

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