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08-03-2016, 01:12 PM
#101
The thing is, if either Fitz or Staley see the writing on the wall that they are not going to be one of the top two, then it makes sense for them to transfer to a JUCO so they can play this year and then get picked up by another school and get to play. If they stay the season, then they would have to sit out their Junior year and would only have one year left to play.
Really, this is more about Staley. He really needs to show that he has grown as a player or I believe he will be at a JUCO.
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08-03-2016, 01:17 PM
#102
I must admit I read week three and thought it meant week three of the season. Week three of practice makes more sense.
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08-03-2016, 01:22 PM
#103

Originally Posted by
HSVDawg
Lets say Fitz gets early starter reps, and Staley leaves immediately. It's still possible and maybe even likely that Williams may go the grad transfer route in December so he doesn't spend his last year on the bench. Then maybe either Tiano decides he doesn't want to wait until his 5th year to get reps and also leaves, or Thompson has a change of heart and goes elsewhere, or one of the three get hurt. Any of those three scenarios combined with the above departures leaves us with only 2 QB options in 2017, and in a worst case or as I like to say "typical MSU" scenario where more than one of those scenarios happen we are suddenly a one man show. Then we are stuck scrambling for another low ceiling QB prospect in late January just to have another warm body. It sounds like a lot of "what ifs", but its really not that farfetched. Its probably 50/50 as to whether we lose Williams, but losing Fitz or Staley before January is virtually guaranteed. After that its just a roll of the dice as to whether anything else happens with the remaining guys.
Remind me to never get on a flight with you.
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08-03-2016, 01:39 PM
#104

Originally Posted by
1bigdawg
The thing is, if either Fitz or Staley see the writing on the wall that they are not going to be one of the top two, then it makes sense for them to transfer to a JUCO so they can play this year and then get picked up by another school and get to play. If they stay the season, then they would have to sit out their Junior year and would only have one year left to play.
Really, this is more about Staley. He really needs to show that he has grown as a player or I believe he will be at a JUCO.
Unless something has changed, I don't think you lose a year of eligibility for the year that you sit out when transferring between FBS schools. You do, however, lose a year for transferring to a JUCO and playing a year there. Also, I don't really see JUCO being a viable option for Staley (or Fitz). Both have been here two full years already so there wouldn't be really benefit from an academic side of doing that. They'd have to take a bunch of classes they didn't even need just to be eligible to play. The options for them are to transfer to another FBS school and sit a year with three or 2 years of eligibilty left after sitting a year (depending on when they left) , or transfer to an FCS school with the same eligibility left except for they wouldn't have to sit a year. Either way, they'd have at least 2 years of eligibility left even if they waited until after the season to leave.
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08-03-2016, 02:25 PM
#105
Junior Member

Originally Posted by
HSVDawg
Unless something has changed, I don't think you lose a year of eligibility for the year that you sit out when transferring between FBS schools. You do, however, lose a year for transferring to a JUCO and playing a year there. Also, I don't really see JUCO being a viable option for Staley (or Fitz). Both have been here two full years already so there wouldn't be really benefit from an academic side of doing that. They'd have to take a bunch of classes they didn't even need just to be eligible to play. The options for them are to transfer to another FBS school and sit a year with three or 2 years of eligibilty left after sitting a year (depending on when they left) , or transfer to an FCS school with the same eligibility left except for they wouldn't have to sit a year. Either way, they'd have at least 2 years of eligibility left even if they waited until after the season to leave.
Staley and Fitz have already redshirted. It makes zero sense to go sit and lose another year. They can go play in juco and get game experience.
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08-03-2016, 02:50 PM
#106

Originally Posted by
HSVDawg
Unless something has changed, I don't think you lose a year of eligibility for the year that you sit out when transferring between FBS schools. You do, however, lose a year for transferring to a JUCO and playing a year there. Also, I don't really see JUCO being a viable option for Staley (or Fitz). Both have been here two full years already so there wouldn't be really benefit from an academic side of doing that. They'd have to take a bunch of classes they didn't even need just to be eligible to play. The options for them are to transfer to another FBS school and sit a year with three or 2 years of eligibilty left after sitting a year (depending on when they left) , or transfer to an FCS school with the same eligibility left except for they wouldn't have to sit a year. Either way, they'd have at least 2 years of eligibility left even if they waited until after the season to leave.
Pretty sure once you enroll the clock starts ticking. Five to play four unless you get an exception. They've already used their redshirt year, so if they transfer immediately to a FBS school, they will effectively lose a year of eligibility. If they go to Juco, obviously taht also counts as a yaer of eligibility, but they'll be playing instead of sitting on a bench.
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08-03-2016, 05:37 PM
#107

Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
Remind me to never get on a flight with you.
Ha, I see your point. Been a State fan for too long I guess. And seeing us get down to our 3rd QB twice in the past 10 years for significant portions of the season taught me that it helps to have as many QB's as possible.
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