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A bowl ban is a huge penalty- as are scholarship reductions
They are getting both- and I will feel like the NCAA did their job. Only question is will it be this year or next
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
raymond21
Ross and Freeze telling the sheep 14 scholarships over 4 years. If true , this will have little or no effect on the program.
20+ over 4 years
Bowl Ban 1 or 2 years
3 coaches with Show Clauses
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Do y'all seriously think they will stop cheating just because they go on probation, get a bowl ban, lose coaches, and lose ever how many scholarships?
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Originally Posted by
Brando
Their Bowl Ban will mean a trip to Cancun to do "Mission Work"......
You misspelled Haiti
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
Do y'all seriously think they will stop cheating just because they go on probation, get a bowl ban, lose coaches, and lose ever how many scholarships?
no
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
Do y'all seriously think they will stop cheating just because they go on probation, get a bowl ban, lose coaches, and lose ever how many scholarships?
I think they'll limit their cheating more to in-state prospects... Kinda like this year
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
Do y'all seriously think they will stop cheating just because they go on probation, get a bowl ban, lose coaches, and lose ever how many scholarships?
Not completely, but surely they would cut way back. SMU got the death penalty because they continued the payments after sanctions and got caught. The chances of getting caught are very slim, but the potential penalties could give them pause.
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
Do y'all seriously think they will stop cheating just because they go on probation, get a bowl ban, lose coaches, and lose ever how many scholarships?
I'd have to say no.
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Originally Posted by
ElitedawgRecruiting
The NCAA in no shape form or fashion is going to shut down the entire ole miss athletic department.
I have been saying this and will keep saying it. It's gonna be way to much for ole miss people and not nearly enough for Msu people when all is said and done.
Well, anything more than 3 over 9 will seem excessive to them and anything less than the death penalty will seem light to us. It'll definitely be somewhere between those two.
I think it's going to be north of 21-22 scholarships, a 1-2 year bowl ban, and I think they put the clamps down on official visits too. Along with a spattering of show causes for multiple coaches/administrators.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I think they'll limit their cheating more to in-state prospects... Kinda like this year
Bingo!
As long as it's all in-state fights over recruits with a Z71 here or a Mustang there the NCAA will give zero shits and Saban and Harbaugh will be appeased.
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Originally Posted by
PassInterference
Texas did one better and scheduled a end-of-season extra game at Hawaii. Did it for the same season that the bowl ban was in place.
Yes i misspoke...end of season for Alabama at Hawaii as well..
http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-foo...112602aac.html
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
Well, anything more than 3 over 9 will seem excessive to them and anything less than the death penalty will seem light to us. It'll definitely be somewhere between those two.
I think it's going to be north of 21-22 scholarships, a 1-2 year bowl ban, and I think they put the clamps down on official visits too. Along with a spattering of show causes for multiple coaches/administrators.
Well a little bit of an overstatement on what MSU fans would expect. Not even SMU got the death penalty before they were repeat offenders. UNM is not a repeat offender in the eyes of the NCAA even though anyone who has observed their recruiting practices over the years would know they are a constant offender. Their major boosters can't stand it if they are not highly tied into the recruiting process and "helping" the cause.
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Footage of Hugh Freeze meeting with NCAA officials. Pay attention to the part where he stresses that nothing shady is going on...................Not long before he goes to jail later in the movie.
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Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
Can someone tell me how many Level 1 infractions ULL had? I can't find the number anywhere. Someone on twitter said they just had 1. If that is true, the bears are screwed.
I thought ULL had between 3 and 5. Can anyone get some clarity on that issue. The bears have 8. I don't care that some happened under my favorite bear coach of all time (Nutt), if ULL got 3 and 11 for 3 Level 1 infractions, the bears will be at 4 and 16 at a minimum.
4, and they did not have the aggravating circumstances of multiple sports with 16 (8 for football alone) level 1, 8 level 2 and 28 overall violations like UNM.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
no
Me either.
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Death Penalty for two seasons, no scholarships the next two (come back in D-3), then if they stay clean, maybe the Sun Belt will take them.
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Originally Posted by
Mutt the Hoople
Death Penalty for two seasons, no scholarships the next two (come back in D-3), then if they stay clean, maybe the Sun Belt will take them.
There would be mass suicides. The NCAA can't do that just on the basis of saving human lives...
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Originally Posted by
blacklistedbully
4, and they did not have the aggravating circumstances of multiple sports with 16 (8 for football alone) level 1, 8 level 2 and 28 overall violations like UNM.
I don't want to sound like a dick about this, but if that's not Lack of Institutional Control AND Failure to Monitor then I don't know what the hell is.
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Originally Posted by
Mutt the Hoople
Death Penalty for two seasons, no scholarships the next two (come back in D-3), then if they stay clean, maybe the Sun Belt will take them.
Funny thing is, you'll now see a complete imbecile like OleMissGuy take this as a literal prediction and run to every MB he can find, posting, "this is what those crazy guys at ED think!" He's either too stupid to understand when someone is being facetious, or it's just his innate dishonesty (he is an habitual liar).
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Originally Posted by
LockeDawg
I don't want to sound like a dick about this, but if that's not Lack of Institutional Control AND Failure to Monitor then I don't know what the hell is.
The ironic thing about that is that what they do is the very definition OF institutional control. Everything is set up there to work the way it has to this point. The plan was working well until Freeze decided to call Lindsey Miller a wife beater.
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